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  • Bram Moolenaar
    ... AFAIK this was included in patch 7.3.889. ... It s not all that useful. It uses more memory, is probably a bit slower. I haven t heard real practical
    Message 1 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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      Skeept wrote:

      > > Thanks. I hope a few people can try it out.
      >
      > Was this patch applied already?
      >
      > I tried compiling a 64 bit windows but if failed complaining that some
      > include file could not be found.
      >
      > If possible could this patch be included for the next release?

      AFAIK this was included in patch 7.3.889.

      > A small example on how to use rubydo (similar to the example on how to
      > use perldo) would be useful for people like me, that don't know much
      > about ruby but would like to learn.
      >
      > Also for the next release, if possible would it be possible to
      > distribute a 64 bit for windows as well a 32 bit?

      It's not all that useful. It uses more memory, is probably a bit
      slower. I haven't heard real practical advantages. But perhaps that
      changed with Windows 8?

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    • Ben Fritz
      ... From http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Where_to_download_Vim, reasons one might want a 64-bit version: 1. Editing files 4GB in size. 2. 64-bit WinPE does not have
      Message 2 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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        On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:01:05 PM UTC-5, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
        > Skeept wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        > > > Thanks. I hope a few people can try it out.
        >
        > >
        >
        > > Was this patch applied already?
        >
        > >
        >
        > > I tried compiling a 64 bit windows but if failed complaining that some
        >
        > > include file could not be found.
        >
        > >
        >
        > > If possible could this patch be included for the next release?
        >
        >
        >
        > AFAIK this was included in patch 7.3.889.
        >
        >
        >
        > > A small example on how to use rubydo (similar to the example on how to
        >
        > > use perldo) would be useful for people like me, that don't know much
        >
        > > about ruby but would like to learn.
        >
        > >
        >
        > > Also for the next release, if possible would it be possible to
        >
        > > distribute a 64 bit for windows as well a 32 bit?
        >
        >
        >
        > It's not all that useful. It uses more memory, is probably a bit
        >
        > slower. I haven't heard real practical advantages. But perhaps that
        >
        > changed with Windows 8?
        >

        From http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Where_to_download_Vim, reasons one might want a 64-bit version:

        1. Editing files >4GB in size.
        2. 64-bit WinPE does not have a WOW64 subsystem, hence you cannot run a 32-bit executable.
        3. Windows Server 2008 R2 (i.e. Win7 Server) also does not have the WOW64 subsystem, by default, although it is an optional component you can install.
        4. Potential for performance gains, particularly in heavy memory operations like memcpy and memcmp which can be optimized for the 64-bit word size.
        5. Getting 32-bit Vim into a 64-bit "Edit with Vim" context menu entry is tricky.

        Also, related to WOW64, accessing native commands which only have a 64-bit version (like chcp) will fail without a workaround.

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      • skeept
        ... Well, I have downloaded the 64 bit 2.0-p195 rubyinstaller from http://rubyinstaller.org/downloads/ and configured ruby with RUBY= C: htemp Ruby200-x64
        Message 3 of 14 , May 21, 2013
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          >
          > > Was this patch applied already?
          >
          > >
          >
          > > I tried compiling a 64 bit windows but if failed complaining that some
          >
          > > include file could not be found.
          >
          > >
          >
          > > If possible could this patch be included for the next release?
          >
          >
          >
          > AFAIK this was included in patch 7.3.889.
          >

          Well, I have downloaded the 64 bit 2.0-p195 rubyinstaller from http://rubyinstaller.org/downloads/
          and configured ruby with
          RUBY="C:\htemp\Ruby200-x64" DYNAMIC_RUBY=yes RUBY_VER=20 RUBY_VER_LONG=2.0.0 ^

          when compiling I get the error:
          c:\htemp\ruby200-x64\include\ruby-2.0.0\ruby/ruby.h(24) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'ruby/c
          onfig.h': No such file or directory
          NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\BIN\x86_amd64\cl.EXE"' : r
          eturn code '0x2'
          Stop.

          if I don't include the configuration for ruby then I can compile fine (Included patches 1-944).

          Is there a different installer I should be using or different configuration options?


          >
          >
          > > A small example on how to use rubydo (similar to the example on how to
          >
          > > use perldo) would be useful for people like me, that don't know much
          >
          > > about ruby but would like to learn.
          >
          > >
          >
          > > Also for the next release, if possible would it be possible to
          >
          > > distribute a 64 bit for windows as well a 32 bit?
          >
          >
          >
          > It's not all that useful. It uses more memory, is probably a bit
          >
          > slower. I haven't heard real practical advantages. But perhaps that
          >
          > changed with Windows 8?
          >

          I am not sure how much bigger the memory usage will be, but I would not think it would be that big.
          64 bit windows users will probably already use 64 bit python and perl so if there is a 64 bit vim they won't have to install additional 32 bit versions.

          Jorge

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        • Andrei Olsen
          ... I m not so sure you can use rubyinstaller.org version to compile with Visual Studio. You need to either use MinGW compiler (probably the easiest) or
          Message 4 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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            kl. 23:40:01 UTC+2 tirsdag 21. mai 2013 skrev skeept følgende:
            > Well, I have downloaded the 64 bit 2.0-p195 rubyinstaller from http://rubyinstaller.org/downloads/
            > and configured ruby with
            > RUBY="C:\htemp\Ruby200-x64" DYNAMIC_RUBY=yes RUBY_VER=20 RUBY_VER_LONG=2.0.0 ^
            >
            > when compiling I get the error:
            > c:\htemp\ruby200-x64\include\ruby-2.0.0\ruby/ruby.h(24) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'ruby/c
            > onfig.h': No such file or directory
            > NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\BIN\x86_amd64\cl.EXE"' : r
            > eturn code '0x2'
            > Stop.
            >
            > if I don't include the configuration for ruby then I can compile fine (Included patches 1-944).
            >
            > Is there a different installer I should be using or different configuration options?


            I'm not so sure you can use rubyinstaller.org version to compile with Visual Studio. You need to either use MinGW compiler (probably the easiest) or recompile Ruby yourself with MS compiler.

            # To build with MinGW:

            1. Get MSYS and unpack to c:\msys :
            http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingwbuilds/files/external-binary-packages/

            2. Get MinGW and unpack to c:\mingw64 :
            http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingwbuilds/files/host-windows/releases/4.8.0/64-bit/threads-win32/sjlj/

            3. cd to c:\msys\etc and edit fstab (see fstab.sample). Basically, you need to add this line:

            c:/mingw64 /mingw

            4. Start MSYS (c:\msys\msys.bat) and cd to where you have Vim source (use forward slashes). Let's assume you have the source in c:\projects\vim and rubyinstaller.org Ruby is installed to c:\Ruby200:

            cd /c/projects/vim/src
            make -f Make_ming.mak RUBY="c:/Ruby200" DYNAMIC_RUBY=yes RUBY_VER=20 RUBY_VER
            _LONG=2.0.0 ARCH=x86-64


            # To build with MS compiler:

            1. Get Ruby source code:
            http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/downloads/

            2. Unpack to let's say c:\projects\ruby

            3. Open Visual Studio / Windows SDK command prompt and cd to c:\projects\ruby or where your Ruby source code is and run this (see win32\README.win32 for more info):

            win32\configure.bat --prefix=/Ruby200-VC --target=x64-mswin64
            nmake
            nmake test
            nmake install

            4. Now you should have VC++ compiled Ruby in c:\Ruby200-VC and can cd to Vim's src and build Vim with:

            nmake -f Make_mvc.mak RUBY="c:\Ruby200-VC" DYNAMIC_RUBY=yes RUBY_VER=20 RUBY_VER_LONG=2.0.0 RUBY_PLATFORM=x64-mswin64_100 RUBY_INSTALL_NAME=x64-msvcr100-ruby200

            Add c:\Ruby200-VC\bin to your PATH and you're good to go.

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          • xxx
            ... Thanks! For me compiling ruby with visual studio was the way to go since I have tried to build with mingw and python and for some reason it did not link
            Message 5 of 14 , May 22, 2013
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              On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:05:23 AM UTC-5, Andrei Olsen wrote:
              > kl. 23:40:01 UTC+2 tirsdag 21. mai 2013 skrev skeept følgende:
              >
              > > Well, I have downloaded the 64 bit 2.0-p195 rubyinstaller from http://rubyinstaller.org/downloads/
              >
              > > and configured ruby with
              >
              > > RUBY="C:\htemp\Ruby200-x64" DYNAMIC_RUBY=yes RUBY_VER=20 RUBY_VER_LONG=2.0.0 ^
              >
              > >
              >
              > > when compiling I get the error:
              >
              > > c:\htemp\ruby200-x64\include\ruby-2.0.0\ruby/ruby.h(24) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'ruby/c
              >
              > > onfig.h': No such file or directory
              >
              > > NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\BIN\x86_amd64\cl.EXE"' : r
              >
              > > eturn code '0x2'
              >
              > > Stop.
              >
              > >
              >
              > > if I don't include the configuration for ruby then I can compile fine (Included patches 1-944).
              >
              > >
              >
              > > Is there a different installer I should be using or different configuration options?
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > I'm not so sure you can use rubyinstaller.org version to compile with Visual Studio. You need to either use MinGW compiler (probably the easiest) or recompile Ruby yourself with MS compiler.
              >
              >
              >
              > # To build with MinGW:
              >
              >
              >
              > 1. Get MSYS and unpack to c:\msys :
              >
              > http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingwbuilds/files/external-binary-packages/
              >
              >
              >
              > 2. Get MinGW and unpack to c:\mingw64 :
              >
              > http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingwbuilds/files/host-windows/releases/4.8.0/64-bit/threads-win32/sjlj/
              >
              >
              >
              > 3. cd to c:\msys\etc and edit fstab (see fstab.sample). Basically, you need to add this line:
              >
              >
              >
              > c:/mingw64 /mingw
              >
              >
              >
              > 4. Start MSYS (c:\msys\msys.bat) and cd to where you have Vim source (use forward slashes). Let's assume you have the source in c:\projects\vim and rubyinstaller.org Ruby is installed to c:\Ruby200:
              >
              >
              >
              > cd /c/projects/vim/src
              >
              > make -f Make_ming.mak RUBY="c:/Ruby200" DYNAMIC_RUBY=yes RUBY_VER=20 RUBY_VER
              >
              > _LONG=2.0.0 ARCH=x86-64
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > # To build with MS compiler:
              >
              >
              >
              > 1. Get Ruby source code:
              >
              > http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/downloads/
              >
              >
              >
              > 2. Unpack to let's say c:\projects\ruby
              >
              >
              >
              > 3. Open Visual Studio / Windows SDK command prompt and cd to c:\projects\ruby or where your Ruby source code is and run this (see win32\README.win32 for more info):
              >
              >
              >
              > win32\configure.bat --prefix=/Ruby200-VC --target=x64-mswin64
              >
              > nmake
              >
              > nmake test
              >
              > nmake install
              >
              >
              >
              > 4. Now you should have VC++ compiled Ruby in c:\Ruby200-VC and can cd to Vim's src and build Vim with:
              >
              >
              >
              > nmake -f Make_mvc.mak RUBY="c:\Ruby200-VC" DYNAMIC_RUBY=yes RUBY_VER=20 RUBY_VER_LONG=2.0.0 RUBY_PLATFORM=x64-mswin64_100 RUBY_INSTALL_NAME=x64-msvcr100-ruby200
              >
              >
              >
              > Add c:\Ruby200-VC\bin to your PATH and you're good to go.


              Thanks!

              For me compiling ruby with visual studio was the way to go since I have tried to build with mingw and python and for some reason it did not link correctly (the 32 bit version works fine).


              Jorge

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            • Andrei Olsen
              ... Oh, I forgot that I had a slightly modified make file. It will work if you add -DMS_WIN64 to DEFINES on line 329 (Make_ming.mak) -- -- You received this
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                > For me compiling ruby with visual studio was the way to go since I have tried to build with mingw and python and for some reason it did not link correctly (the 32 bit version works fine).

                Oh, I forgot that I had a slightly modified make file. It will work if you add

                -DMS_WIN64

                to DEFINES on line 329 (Make_ming.mak)

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              • Bram Moolenaar
                ... Isn t that already possible? It s going to be slow anyway. ... What is WinPE? ... Not a very common system. ... But moving 64 bits things arounds is
                Message 7 of 14 , May 23, 2013
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                  Ben Fritz wrote:

                  > On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:01:05 PM UTC-5, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
                  > > Skeept wrote:
                  > > > Also for the next release, if possible would it be possible to
                  > > > distribute a 64 bit for windows as well a 32 bit?
                  > >
                  > > It's not all that useful. It uses more memory, is probably a bit
                  > > slower. I haven't heard real practical advantages. But perhaps that
                  > > changed with Windows 8?
                  >
                  > >From http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Where_to_download_Vim, reasons one might want a 64-bit version:
                  >
                  > 1. Editing files >4GB in size.

                  Isn't that already possible? It's going to be slow anyway.

                  > 2. 64-bit WinPE does not have a WOW64 subsystem, hence you cannot run
                  > a 32-bit executable.

                  What is WinPE?

                  > 3. Windows Server 2008 R2 (i.e. Win7 Server) also does not have the
                  > WOW64 subsystem, by default, although it is an optional component you
                  > can install.

                  Not a very common system.

                  > 4. Potential for performance gains, particularly in heavy memory
                  > operations like memcpy and memcmp which can be optimized for the
                  > 64-bit word size.

                  But moving 64 bits things arounds is slower, net gain or loss needs to
                  be measured.

                  > 5. Getting 32-bit Vim into a 64-bit "Edit with Vim" context menu entry
                  > is tricky.
                  >
                  > Also, related to WOW64, accessing native commands which only have a
                  > 64-bit version (like chcp) will fail without a workaround.

                  I wonder how many downloads the 64 bit version currently has.

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                • Andrei Olsen
                  ... Windows Preinstallation Environment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Preinstallation_Environment
                  Message 8 of 14 , May 23, 2013
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                    > > 2. 64-bit WinPE does not have a WOW64 subsystem, hence you cannot run
                    > > a 32-bit executable.
                    >
                    > What is WinPE?

                    Windows Preinstallation Environment

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Preinstallation_Environment
                    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825110.aspx

                    Basically, a live CD.

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