vim.org reviewed and classified
I've gone through Sven's entire html tree, and am making a list of all
the files, and to what extent they are or are not represented in vimonline.
Working from this, I hope we can develop a proposed site tree for vimonline and
begin work on fleshing it out.
I look forward to hearing thoughts on how we can manage this project, and where I might be wrong. ;)
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- 101 signs you're addicted to vim.
Personally, I think we can lose this. It's not funny. It's like saying
that the top way to know that you're a redneck is that your neck is red.
- not quite a FAQ, not quite a brief guide
Something like this could be useful on the new site: a feature-oriented
FAQ. I don't think we have one, really. This is something that should
be integrated with the :help files and manual. It could be a FAQ with
very simple answers and extensive linking into the manual.
I don't think we have this, yet.
- links to mirrors for binary distributions
A page like this probably belongs under 'mirroring info' on the
downloads page. As has been mentioned, the downloads page is a little
overwhelming. (Also, why is there a weirdly-placed link in the left
sidebar to a stats site in ?Swedish??) I know we have a list of mirrors
on the 'why use vim' page, but it's not very user-friendly.
- apparently once intended to be a 'challenges' page
This page seems entirely redundant. If nothing else, 'tips' replaces it.
It might be interesting or amusing to /actually/ run contests to best
solve a given problem, though. That kind of functionality seems best to
leave for a second version of vimonline.
- links to vim IRC channels
This is a good idea, and can probably go under 'support' as one or two
lines of 'where to find good vim irc channels'
- vim development goals and 'mission'
This is actually a really good page, though somewhat hard to follow.
Things like this should be listed in the SourceForge project page,
possibly as project documentation. It would be nice to get an idea of
what vim is supposed to be and not be, in detail; also, it'd be nice to
see where it is going.
- a list of vim distribution mirrors
If we continue to use ftp.XX.vim.org, this is almost redundant, but a
specific list isn't a bad idea, especially if it can be updated by the
mirror maintainers as to speed, uptime, update frequency, etc.
Sven's page is -really- long and detailed, but most of the detail could
easily be displayed only when requested, to make the list easier to see
at a glance.
- an overview of vim documentation
Most of this is already covered by vimonline's documentation pages
(vimdoc.sf.net), but that page needs to be brought in line with the look
of vimonline. Also, more 'official' HOWTO like documentation should be
listed -- things that are longer than tips.
- where and how to download vim
This is already covered.
- a brief description of vim in 6kB
The brief description in 6k is a nice running project, and should be
maintained as part of vimdoc, probably.
- release dates of vim
This 'brief history of vim' is nice, and should be expanded, I think,
into more of a narrative history. Bram can write this in his copious
spare time. :)
I'm not sure where we'd put this. Possibly in an extended 'about vim'
page that expands on the little "What is Vim?" blurb on the front page.
- huge file; news; FAQ;
This page is wildly out of date, in many ways. "Read about some new
features of vim-5.4!" The news is already incorporated into vimonline.
Again, though, we need a FAQ on vimonline, probably linked from the main
page, possibly linked from 'about vim' and/or 'support'.
- a list of syntax files and their maintainers/etc
This page, too, is way out of date. This is rendered obsolete by the
- news for vim for macintosh
News alone should mostly cover this. Adding a 'type' field to news items
and letting users filter on that should entirely cover this.
- vim mailing lists
This is covered by the 'support' page, although 'support' does not list
some of the more obscure lists. Maybe we should have a 'more lists'
link to find the non-English language lists, etc.
- another list of mirrors
I've covered this topic already.
- vim news
This is covered already by vimonline's news feature.
- info on USENET posting for vim
The reference to comp.editors is relatively redundant, although also
harmless if we want to include that on the support page. Better, though,
is the list of things to mention when asking for help. (Version, OS,
etc.) That should be included/linked somewhere on the support page.
- a list of settable options
The user's manual covers this.
- information about the domain vim.org; maintainer, email addies, etc
Redundant, especially if vim.org will point to vimonline.
- banners, buttons, and screenshots
Screenshots are already covered by the Why Use Vim? page.
Banners and buttons should go under our 'About Vim' page, or under an
'Advocacy' or 'Community' section. (Community could also contain the IRC
- Pater Noster for Vim
I don't know; we could include this somewhere. It strikes me, like the
101 addiction signs, as not being particularly useful or funny. Maybe
under 'Community' or 'Advocacy'.
- quotes about vi and vim
This is an amusing page, and belongs under 'Advocacy,' 'Community,' or
'About Vim.' Maybe we should create a quotes list, like tips and
scripts, so that excellent / amusing quotes can rise to the top.
- search engine interface
We have this already; if we need a more extensive one, we can link to
google with site:vim.sf.net
- Sven's minimal vimrc
This can be a single tip, or several. It doesn't need its own page on
- a site map
This page is incredibly out of date. We don't really need it, but once
we decide how to lay out vimonline's expanded content, we'll have one
- links to pages of other vim users
This is covered by user info. Users can list their own links to their
- why use vim?
We already have this on vimonline.
- is vim y2k safe?
This is no longer an issue, save for time travellers.
- a FAQ
Well, we need to have one current and online. We don't seem to.
- info about the ICCF and how/why to give
vimonline already has this, and it's a link from every page!
- reserved for a macros archive; actually blank
vimonline actually implements this as the scripts archive
- vim in the press and in reviews
This kind of content should be better organized, and on the vim
'Advocacy' page, or as news items. Or both!
- the vim user's guide
We already have this on vimonline.
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> It's all explained on the web site: http://a-a-p.orgOne thing I could not find there: What does the acronym (?) "A-A-P" mean?
> If you still don't get it, I will have to update the web pages...
It might be "Any Acronym Perceivable", "An A-A-P Project", or something
similar, like TTP="The TTP Project" from the Dilbert comic, but I'd still
like to know. ;-)
Google only brings tons of other AAPs.