48387Re: creating a development environemnt for VIM
- Nov 5, 2007Matthew Wozniski wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 04:45:54AM +0100, Tony Mechelynck wrote:"Better" is a matter of taste; and I'm wary of "unofficial patches". Depending
>> Matthew Wozniski wrote:
>>> Also, this doesn't belong on vim-dev, it belongs on vim-use. vim-dev is for
>>> submitting and discussing bug reports and patches. I'm setting the reply-to
>>> address accordingly.
>> You didn't, or Google Groups overrode you, but that doesn't matter. Vim-dev is
>> also for questions about configuring and compiling Vim. These questions
>> definitely belong here.
> Ah, terribly sorry. Usually, -dev groups are only for patches/bug reports.
> And google groups definitely just overrode me. Ah, well.
>> As I said a couple of days ago, see also
>> http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/vim/compunix.htm for a step-by-step
>> tutorial about building Vim from the official sources (not any "debian" or
>> "ubuntu" sources which might be less than up-to-date or contain patches not
>> sactioned by Bram) on any Unix-like system.
> They cannot be out of date, since part of the install process ftp's
> down the latest patches from ftp.vim.org, and they produce packages
> that can be installed through your package manager, rather than
> requiring contortions to track dynamic library dependencies and such.
> ./configure && make && make install is nice and all, but it has
> serious shortcomings in terms of versioning and cleanup, especially
> with regard to tracking which versions of all of your shared object
> files you still need around on your system.
> Of course, they do include a few unofficial patches (25 in the latest
> Ubuntu sources), but that's certainly not a bad thing; it is, after
> all, how open source moves forward, and most of them will certainly be
> moved to upstream as soon as the distro maintainers have time to
> handle it.
> I find it rather silly to suggest using `make install' when there's
> a better alternative being offered.
>> Best regards,
on to whom you listen, Debian's "own" patches either "fix" (according to
Debian) or "introduce" (according to e.g. Mozilla) instabilities in the
software they distribute. I suppose the same might well apply to Ubuntu and
Vim, though I'm with another distributor (Novell/SuSE) whose Vim distributions
I'm not using because they lag too much behind Bram's.
The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age
-- H. L. Mencken
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