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45794Re: Does 'man' syntax do its job?

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  • James Vega
    Jan 3, 2007
      On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 05:06:50PM +0100, A.J.Mechelynck wrote:
      > Doesn't linewise folding also suppress information? Yet Vim has had that
      > for quite some time. It is true that it doesn't make the folds disappear
      > completely; rather, each outer closed fold is replaced by one line. That
      > wouldn't work for inline folding; but maybe it could use the 'foldcolumn'
      > or something to draw attention to the fact that something has been hidden.
      > And BTW, the Hidden highlight group (guibg=bg guifg=bg) also "suppresses"
      > whatever uses it, yet IIUC it is used a lot in helpfiles. I'm not sure
      > about netrw, but the older Explorer plugin also used it to hide its sort
      > key.

      Both of those hide information, but in a way that is still
      discoverable/noticeable by the user. Folds show a fold line, and
      'ignored' highlights still occupy real estate on the screen. Also, with
      the colorschemes I've used, you can still see the actual ignored text
      when the cursor is on the character. When using the conceal
      functionality, text is completely hidden from the user. (I just saw
      Vince's reply that this depends on 'conceallevel', so it may not be as
      unobvious as I originally thought.) This has its place obviously (as
      evidenced by the patch even existing), but I can understand reluctance
      to include the patch since it so dramatically affects the display of the

      On the other hand, integrating the patch would provide a solution for
      various itches that I know people want to scratch (mainly to do with
      builtin previewing of filetypes like html, tex, etc). If it were
      disabled by default (as I think folding should be), it would allow
      people that knew of it to take advantage of the functionality without
      causing novice users to wonder what the heck is going on.

      GPG Key: 1024D/61326D40 2003-09-02 James Vega <jamessan@...>
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