33784Re: Config Vim not to change directory timestamp
- Oct 3, 2003On 2003-10-03, Roboco Sanchez <roboco2004@...> wrote:
> --- Gary Johnson <garyjohn@...> wrote:I didn't intend that to be a solution--I was only trying to verify
> > On 2003-10-03, Bram Moolenaar <Bram@...>
> > wrote:
> > > Roboco Sanchez wrote:
> > >
> > > > Vim shouldn't change the timestamp of the
> > directory in
> > > > which the file it's saving resides. Vim is the
> > only
> > > > editor to do so. It's really annoyance when you
> > modify
> > > > a file but your directory timestamp is also
> > changed.
> > > > No, I'm not talking about swap file or backup
> > file.
> > > > I'm talking about the directory NNNN that Vim
> > creates
> > > > before saving the file and deletes just after
> > the file
> > > > is saved. So "set backupdir" or "set directory"
> > > > wouldn't help. Please introduce "set secretdir"
> > for
> > > > that NNN directory or just create it in the path
> > of
> > > > "set backupdir" or "set directory". Many thanks.
> > >
> > > I have no idea what you are talking about. Vim
> > doesn't create a
> > > directory next to the file it writes.
> > >
> > > Anyway, if you write a file it's not strange that
> > the directory it
> > > contains is changed. You can avoid this by
> > letting Vim overwrite the
> > > original file (reset 'backup' and 'writebackup')
> > but you risk loosing
> > > your work if the power drops that moment. On Unix
> > the directory is
> > > still changed anyway, since the timestamp of the
> > file is updated.
> > The file's timestamp is kept in the inode, not in
> > the directory, so
> > changing a file's contents should not affect the
> > directory.
> > If I have
> > set nobackup
> > set nowritebackup
> > set noswapfile
> > in my ~/.vimrc, and I use vim to modify a file, the
> > directory time
> > stamp is not changed. (This is using vim-6.2 on
> > HP-UX 10.20.)
> > I have no idea what this "NNN directory" could be,
> > either. Some
> > plugin?
> You solution does solve the problem of directory
> timestamp but you won't have the backup file in your
> backup dir. I would still want both swapfile and
> backupfile as normal.
my assertion that modifying a file on a Unix file system does not
change the directory time stamp.
> Vim does create a dir named NNNN where N is a decimalI know there is such a tool for Unix, but I've never used it and I
> digit even though you use "set backupdir" to tell Vim
> to write backup file somewhere else. If you use
> Windows you can use Sysinternals' FileMon to monitor
> Vim's disk activities and you'll see the real name of
> the dir I'm talking about. On *NIX I'm not sure what
> tool to use.
can't think of the name.
If I make those same settings in the C:\Vim\_vimrc file on my
Windows2000 machine, I can also edit a file using gvim without
changing the time stamp on the directory. So I don't doubt that
you're seeing what you say you're seeing, but I don't think it is
caused by vim itself. My guess is still that you have some plugin
that defines an autocommand that's executed when you save a file.
Try executing the following commands:
They will show you the current autocommands for each of those
Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies
garyjohn@... | Wireless Division
| Spokane, Washington, USA
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