Re: vim & arabic
- Steve Hall <digitect@...> wrote:
> Tony Mechelynck wrote:Believe it or not, neither can I, except for a few words and phrases. This
> > Hi Steve -- as-salaamu `alaikum wa rahmatu-llaahi wa barakatuhu.
> Believe it or not, my advocacy of this patch has nothing to do with my
> ability to speak Arabic... I can't! (Guess I'll need a translation.)
one is a classical formula used when meeting people in polite society, it
means "Peace unto you and God's benevolence and His blessing".
> II agree.
> know there's a considerable population that could make use of this
> functionality so I view it as a betterment of Vim for the community.
> Figuring Arabeyes is a good test bed for speakers, I decided the least
> I could do is test on the other side as Bram requested several times,
> and take a stand that it was a GoodThing.
> > - I have now started using the existing digraphs for entering ArabicThe problem is not in the patch IMO, it's in the Unicode digraphs subset. (I
> > text. I find them satisfactory though some of them are a little
> > strange. I notice that there is a glyph but no digraph for
> > alif-wasla; that is not a major problem as I can either use Ctrl-V u
> > 0671 or create my own digraph.
> Sounds like another point to forward to the patch author.
believe the digraphs should be common to at least all +multi_byte versions.)
As I said, not very important.
>it would be needed for Arabic wouldn't it. I don't know if it's related to
> > - Contrary to what I said in my earlier post (the one you fwd'ed),
> > my "crash" problem has not disappeared. I often get crashes in gvim
> > 6.1.300 +w32 +ole (from http://cream.sourceforge.net/vim.html ) when
> > I press the <F8> key, which I have mapped to ":set rightleft!" (w/o
> > quotes of course). I wonder what I'm missing?
> I've had no problems with stability, but don't speak a language using
> &rightleft either. Could be a bug.
my "big fonts". I was about to say "or my vocalised text" though last time I
had it it was unvocalised text; the alif of every laam-alif is treated as a
combining character however. Or could it be long lines with 'nowrap'?
>I agree, so I hope some future patch will address this. I'm not sure how to
> > Of course I can still edit the file with 'noarabic' and
> > 'norightleft' but that means displaying Arabic text in reverse
> > orientation.
> Working around crashes with norightleft is undesirable, :set arabic
> should JustWork.
get a traceback or a dump.
> Is it a Windows-specific problem... anybody elsehuh-huh. Didn't notice that 'cuz I don't use reformatting.
> noticed this on another OS? The author said he's only used it on Unix,
> perhaps it is a platform thing?
> > - Arabic documentation for vim is still needed.
> The author acknowledged the need for this, I'm waiting for an update.
> > I wonder what that [:set arabic] option does though. Apparently one
> > of its side-effects is to set 'rightleft' but what else?
> Just noticed it effects gq somehow. Like you, not sure what else.
>Sorry it finally didn't appear on the vim list: I used the wrong identity.
> > - I'm sending this to the vim ML (to which I subscribe) but not to
> > Arabeyes (I don't think I should get an account there since I could
> > certainly not work as "translator" and only marginally as
> > "developer" -- or should I open an account anyway?). Forward it or
> > not as you see fit.
This time I'll be more careful.
>Ditto. I've done programming in my time, but I don't have a functioning C
> At this point, I have still not heard a response on the previous
> comments so I'm not going to forward any more until I hear something.
> There appeared to be considerable enthusiasm for getting the patch
> into the official tree initially, so I thought it would go quickly.
> But having not heard back, I'm in waiting mode.
> Being a non-coder, I'm in no position to do it myself.
> IMO, this patchSooner or later one is bound to appear (insha'llah).
> is still looking for an advocate who can polish the code and bring it
> into line with what would be acceptable as an official Vim patch.
> Shame, really, seems like the hard part has been done. Oh, well, such
> is the course in this development model sometimes.
> Steve Hall [ |digitect|AT|mindspring|DOT|com| ]