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Re: Is vim just for programmers?

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  • Tim Chase
    ... Me :) Yes, there s a decently sized contingent of [La]TeX users on the vim ML, but they mostly appear to answer questions about Vim+[La]TeX integration
    Message 1 of 45 , Jan 1, 2010
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      > Searching the web for people's views on writing methods I
      > found a number who said that one should use vim for
      > programming but emacs for other kinds of writing. So I had a
      > look at emacs out of curiosity but couldn't see any real
      > advantage for me in learning it. Am I missing something here?
      > Is anyone else still using vim for writing lengthy texts?

      Me :)

      Yes, there's a decently sized contingent of [La]TeX users on the
      vim ML, but they mostly appear to answer questions about
      Vim+[La]TeX integration plugins or use, and then they go silent.
      Which is how the list works in general -- ask a question and
      usually the right people pick up on it and answer; instead of
      having people write unsolicited diatribes on their favorite
      topics whether [La]TeX, scripting, Ex commands, or
      Unicode/BOM/character-encodings stuff (though I've gotta admit
      that just about everything I know regarding U/BOM/ce, I've
      learned from Tony's elucidating replies that occasionally go off
      on pedantic dissertations -- thanks, Tony!).

      I think Vim's primary users are "people who want to edit text
      more efficiently". A large subset of those lazy people (self
      included) are programmers, but do include [La]TeX users, system
      administrators, people who email a lot and use Vim as an external
      editor...and the list goes on. I tinkered with Emacs but grew
      frustrated with (1) using it over remote SSH/telnet/RS-232
      connections that didn't always reliably send things like alt/meta
      or arrow keys; (2) at the time, on my underpowered 486 DX/100,
      Emacs was a dog; and (3) it was harder to be productive out of
      the box without amassing a customized config file that I then had
      to tote around and keep in sync across machines. Tim O'Reilly
      had a good post[1] about this around the time I made the
      full-time jump to Vim.

      So now I use Vim like I used to use qedit in DOS to write all my
      papers, project documentation, code, and other text-format
      content. Except, well, email and text-boxes on web pages (though
      there are TB/FF plugins for that)

      -tim

      [1]
      http://oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly/ask_tim/1999/unix_editor.html


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    • Reid Thompson
      ... for what it s worth, gedit has a vi plugin also as does netbeans and eclipse (although the eclipse one may not be free -- can t recall) -- You received
      Message 45 of 45 , Mar 10, 2010
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        On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 12:23 -0800, Olivier Guéry wrote:
        >
        > On Mar 8, 10:14 pm, Dotan Cohen <dotanco...@...> wrote:
        > with it. Waiting for an editor to be the on of my dreams !
        > >
        > > Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor, has a VI mode and supports
        > > proportional fonts! To get the feature in Koffice, please comment in
        > > support of this feature request:
        > >
        > > VI mode, like Kate hashttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219889
        >
        > Thank’s for the vi mode in kate. I’ve seen this time ago.
        > I search but can’t find a way to change the keybinding of the vi mode
        > (as a vim user (and phisiotherapist, I like ergonomy, so I use a
        > french dvorak layout call bépo).
        >
        > Regards.
        > Olivier.
        >
        for what it's worth,
        gedit has a vi plugin also
        as does netbeans and eclipse (although the eclipse one may not be free
        -- can't recall)

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