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116208Re: Starting an online VIM vs Other Text Editors battle.. anyone interested?

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  • tommed
    Aug 3, 2010
      @Pavel - Agreed!

      On Aug 3, 11:02 am, Pavel Ryumin <pavel.ryu...@...> wrote:
      > The accounting of startup time gives us a lot of complications. The greatest
      > one is the inequality of the users with different hardware setups. I think
      > it's not good for editors war.
      > Pavel
      >
      >
      >
      > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:55 PM, tommed <tom.medhu...@...> wrote:
      > > Hi Marc,
      >
      > > With regard to cheating; it doesn't matter what we say (eg. "use a
      > > camcorder and have a clock in view") there will always be ways to
      > > cheat at games! Because we don't currently have any prizes; I'm hoping
      > > that people will realise there isn't really much to be made by
      > > cheating!!
      >
      > > Also, the transcripts should help us decide whether or not what they
      > > are doing is possible in the time they are doing it.
      >
      > > I have been thinking of whether or not we should start the timer from
      > > opening the file; or from the text editor fully loaded. I realise that
      > > a lot of the heavy-duty IDEs will have features that are only possible
      > > due to their massive size... I can see arguments on both sides, so we
      > > can probably figure this out through trial an error?
      >
      > > Because the challenges will vary so much; the large IDEs will
      > > obviously not always be the ideal tool; but I think if we took the
      > > time to start the IDE into consideration; Eclipse and Visual Studios
      > > will probably be completely out of the equation... however, may be
      > > they should be as we have to wait for them to load anyway before we
      > > use them in real-life situations..? (One of the reasons I switched
      > > from Visual Studios to VIM at work anyway!)
      >
      > > I'd say for now, we could probably start with the text file open, but
      > > then play it by ear?
      >
      > > On Aug 3, 10:40 am, Marc Weber <marco-owe...@...> wrote:
      > > > Excerpts from tommed's message of Tue Aug 03 11:12:27 +0200 2010:
      >
      > > > > Great feedback, many thanks!
      > > > > I have just updated the site, taking your excellent suggestions on
      > > > > board.
      >
      > > > quote:
      >
      > > > 1) You MUST use a default install (iow. no custom scripts or
      > > modifications)
      > > > of the text editor of your choice
      >
      > > > 2) You may use any version of the text editor (vi/vim/gvim/gnu
      > > > emacs/xemacs/nano/ed/pico etc..), we even welcome users of Notepad,
      > > > Eclipse, and Visual Studio!!
      >
      > > > Which operating System? Eg Linux has different versions of Vim.
      > > > huge vim (with X and scripting support for Ruby, Python, ..)
      > > > or tiny vim without X, without quickfix, without ...
      >
      > > > You're looking for masters - but they all have custom scripts.
      >
      > > > If it comes to Eclipse: When does the time tacking start?
      > > > When you start the Editor, or when it already started.
      > > > When using Eclipse this may make a difference.
      >
      > > > 6) Upload your video to YouTube and post the URL as a response on our
      > > > site
      >
      > > > How do you catch people speeding up their videos? I mean is there any
      > > > chance that this competition is fair? Or will the man / woman win who
      > > > can best postprocess the video before uploading it to YouTube?
      >
      > > > Also in both: emacs and vim you can easily copy paste a clipboard to get
      > > > scripts you want.
      > > > eg :call writefile('my.vim',[lines])| source my.vim
      >
      > > > Is this allowed?
      >
      > > > Marc Weber
      >
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