116208Re: Starting an online VIM vs Other Text Editors battle.. anyone interested?
- Aug 3, 2010@Pavel - Agreed!
On Aug 3, 11:02 am, Pavel Ryumin <pavel.ryu...@...> wrote:
> The accounting of startup time gives us a lot of complications. The greatest
> one is the inequality of the users with different hardware setups. I think
> it's not good for editors war.
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:55 PM, tommed <tom.medhu...@...> wrote:
> > Hi Marc,
> > With regard to cheating; it doesn't matter what we say (eg. "use a
> > camcorder and have a clock in view") there will always be ways to
> > cheat at games! Because we don't currently have any prizes; I'm hoping
> > that people will realise there isn't really much to be made by
> > cheating!!
> > Also, the transcripts should help us decide whether or not what they
> > are doing is possible in the time they are doing it.
> > I have been thinking of whether or not we should start the timer from
> > opening the file; or from the text editor fully loaded. I realise that
> > a lot of the heavy-duty IDEs will have features that are only possible
> > due to their massive size... I can see arguments on both sides, so we
> > can probably figure this out through trial an error?
> > Because the challenges will vary so much; the large IDEs will
> > obviously not always be the ideal tool; but I think if we took the
> > time to start the IDE into consideration; Eclipse and Visual Studios
> > will probably be completely out of the equation... however, may be
> > they should be as we have to wait for them to load anyway before we
> > use them in real-life situations..? (One of the reasons I switched
> > from Visual Studios to VIM at work anyway!)
> > I'd say for now, we could probably start with the text file open, but
> > then play it by ear?
> > On Aug 3, 10:40 am, Marc Weber <marco-owe...@...> wrote:
> > > Excerpts from tommed's message of Tue Aug 03 11:12:27 +0200 2010:
> > > > Great feedback, many thanks!
> > > > I have just updated the site, taking your excellent suggestions on
> > > > board.
> > > quote:
> > > 1) You MUST use a default install (iow. no custom scripts or
> > modifications)
> > > of the text editor of your choice
> > > 2) You may use any version of the text editor (vi/vim/gvim/gnu
> > > emacs/xemacs/nano/ed/pico etc..), we even welcome users of Notepad,
> > > Eclipse, and Visual Studio!!
> > > Which operating System? Eg Linux has different versions of Vim.
> > > huge vim (with X and scripting support for Ruby, Python, ..)
> > > or tiny vim without X, without quickfix, without ...
> > > You're looking for masters - but they all have custom scripts.
> > > If it comes to Eclipse: When does the time tacking start?
> > > When you start the Editor, or when it already started.
> > > When using Eclipse this may make a difference.
> > > 6) Upload your video to YouTube and post the URL as a response on our
> > > site
> > > How do you catch people speeding up their videos? I mean is there any
> > > chance that this competition is fair? Or will the man / woman win who
> > > can best postprocess the video before uploading it to YouTube?
> > > Also in both: emacs and vim you can easily copy paste a clipboard to get
> > > scripts you want.
> > > eg :call writefile('my.vim',[lines])| source my.vim
> > > Is this allowed?
> > > Marc Weber
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