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  • peiman khosravi
    I just downloaded this. seems to be working just fine so far. Thanks Peiman *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed ||
    Message 1 of 11 , Jul 6, 2013
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      I just downloaded this. seems to be working just fine so far.

      Thanks
      Peiman



      On 6 July 2013 18:34, björn <bjorn.winckler@...> wrote:
      On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

      Hello Vim users,


      Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.4a BETA


      This is the first BETA release of Vim 7.4.

      Please check that the distribution is OK.  I haven't done one for a long
      time.  Report anything that isn't right.  That includes a crash but also
      a typo in the documentation or a missing file.


      The biggest additions since 7.3:
      - A new, faster regular expression engine.
      - More than a thousand fixes and small improvements.

      Once you have installed Vim 7.4a BETA you can find details about the
      changes since Vim 7.3 with:
              :help version-7.4


      Gratitude
      ---------

      If you like Vim, please consider helping poor children in the south of
      Uganda: http://iccf-holland.org


      Where to get it
      ---------------

      The best way to obtain the latest Vim 7.4 is using Mercurial.
      Summary:
              hg clone https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/ vim
              cd vim
              hg update
      More information here: http://www.vim.org/mercurial.php
      The tag for this beta version is v7-4a.

      For MS-Windows most of you will want the self-installing executable:
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

      Information about which files to download for what system (don't use the
      links, they are still for Vim 7.3):
              http://www.vim.org/download.php

      A list of mirror sites can be found here:
              http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php


      The files available for download:

      UNIX:
      sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed:
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.4a.tar.bz2

      VARIOUS:
      help files converted to HTML:
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/doc/vim74ahtml.zip

      MS-WINDOWS one-size-fits-all:
      Self-installing, includes all runtime files, loads libraries dynamically:
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

      MS-WINDOWS separate files:
      Runtime files:
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74art.zip
      GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/7:
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.zip
      GUI binary with OLE support:
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.zip
      Console version for Windows NT/2000/XP/7:
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.zip
      Sources for PC (with CR-LF):
              ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74asrc.zip

      For debugging:
      ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.pdb
      ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.pdb
      ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.pdb


      Omitted in this version are:
      - The 16-bit DOS, OS/2 and Amiga versions, these are obsolete.
      - The 32-bit console version for MS-DOS/Windows 95/98
      - The 16 bit MS-Windows version


      Mailing lists
      -------------

      For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
      lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
      only if you subscribe.  See http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim

      If you want to help Vim development, discuss new features or get the
      latest patches, subscribe to the vim-dev mailing list.  See
      http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-dev

      Subject specific lists:
      Multi-byte issues: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-multibyte
      Macintosh issues:  http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-mac

      Before you ask a question you should search the archives, someone may
      already have given the answer.


      Reporting bugs
      --------------

      Send them to <vim-dev@...>.  Please describe the problem precisely.
      All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
      spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
      find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
      bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: "vim -u NONE".  Try
      different machines if possible.  See ":help bugs" in Vim.  Send a patch
      if you can!


      Happy Vimming!

      Hi Vim on Mac users,

      I have uploaded a build of MacVim (snapshot 67) based on Vim 7.4a BETA:


      This build is for SNOW LEOPARD (10.6) and later versions of OS X.  (I will build a version targeted specifically for 10.8 on Monday, most likely.)

      Björn

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    • björn
      ... Douglas Drumond has kindly provided binaries of snapshot 67 for 10.7 and 10.8, which are now available at https://code.google.com/p/macvim/downloads/list
      Message 2 of 11 , Jul 7, 2013
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        I have uploaded a build of MacVim (snapshot 67) based on Vim 7.4a BETA:


        This build is for SNOW LEOPARD (10.6) and later versions of OS X.  (I will build a version targeted specifically for 10.8 on Monday, most likely.)


        Douglas Drumond has kindly provided binaries of snapshot 67 for 10.7 and 10.8, which are now available at


        Enjoy!
        Björn

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      • peiman khosravi
        I don t seem to be able to go into the full screen mode. (Mac OS X 10.7.5.) *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS Feed ||
        Message 3 of 11 , Jul 7, 2013
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          I don't seem to be able to go into the full screen mode.

          (Mac OS X 10.7.5.)





          On 6 July 2013 18:34, björn <bjorn.winckler@...> wrote:
          On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

          Hello Vim users,


          Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.4a BETA


          This is the first BETA release of Vim 7.4.

          Please check that the distribution is OK.  I haven't done one for a long
          time.  Report anything that isn't right.  That includes a crash but also
          a typo in the documentation or a missing file.


          The biggest additions since 7.3:
          - A new, faster regular expression engine.
          - More than a thousand fixes and small improvements.

          Once you have installed Vim 7.4a BETA you can find details about the
          changes since Vim 7.3 with:
                  :help version-7.4


          Gratitude
          ---------

          If you like Vim, please consider helping poor children in the south of
          Uganda: http://iccf-holland.org


          Where to get it
          ---------------

          The best way to obtain the latest Vim 7.4 is using Mercurial.
          Summary:
                  hg clone https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/ vim
                  cd vim
                  hg update
          More information here: http://www.vim.org/mercurial.php
          The tag for this beta version is v7-4a.

          For MS-Windows most of you will want the self-installing executable:
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

          Information about which files to download for what system (don't use the
          links, they are still for Vim 7.3):
                  http://www.vim.org/download.php

          A list of mirror sites can be found here:
                  http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php


          The files available for download:

          UNIX:
          sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed:
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.4a.tar.bz2

          VARIOUS:
          help files converted to HTML:
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/doc/vim74ahtml.zip

          MS-WINDOWS one-size-fits-all:
          Self-installing, includes all runtime files, loads libraries dynamically:
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

          MS-WINDOWS separate files:
          Runtime files:
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74art.zip
          GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/7:
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.zip
          GUI binary with OLE support:
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.zip
          Console version for Windows NT/2000/XP/7:
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.zip
          Sources for PC (with CR-LF):
                  ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74asrc.zip

          For debugging:
          ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.pdb
          ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.pdb
          ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.pdb


          Omitted in this version are:
          - The 16-bit DOS, OS/2 and Amiga versions, these are obsolete.
          - The 32-bit console version for MS-DOS/Windows 95/98
          - The 16 bit MS-Windows version


          Mailing lists
          -------------

          For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
          lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
          only if you subscribe.  See http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim

          If you want to help Vim development, discuss new features or get the
          latest patches, subscribe to the vim-dev mailing list.  See
          http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-dev

          Subject specific lists:
          Multi-byte issues: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-multibyte
          Macintosh issues:  http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-mac

          Before you ask a question you should search the archives, someone may
          already have given the answer.


          Reporting bugs
          --------------

          Send them to <vim-dev@...>.  Please describe the problem precisely.
          All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
          spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
          find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
          bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: "vim -u NONE".  Try
          different machines if possible.  See ":help bugs" in Vim.  Send a patch
          if you can!


          Happy Vimming!

          Hi Vim on Mac users,

          I have uploaded a build of MacVim (snapshot 67) based on Vim 7.4a BETA:


          This build is for SNOW LEOPARD (10.6) and later versions of OS X.  (I will build a version targeted specifically for 10.8 on Monday, most likely.)

          Björn

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        • peiman khosravi
          Also, I tried to resize the window by dragging the right edge and this happened (attached). P [image: Inline images 1] *www.peimankhosravi.co.uk || RSS
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            Also, I tried to resize the window by dragging the right edge and this happened (attached).

            P

            Inline images 1



            On 7 July 2013 17:09, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@...> wrote:
            I don't seem to be able to go into the full screen mode.

            (Mac OS X 10.7.5.)


            On 6 July 2013 18:34, björn <bjorn.winckler@...> wrote:
            On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Bram Moolenaar wrote:

            Hello Vim users,


            Announcing:  Vim (Vi IMproved) version 7.4a BETA


            This is the first BETA release of Vim 7.4.

            Please check that the distribution is OK.  I haven't done one for a long
            time.  Report anything that isn't right.  That includes a crash but also
            a typo in the documentation or a missing file.


            The biggest additions since 7.3:
            - A new, faster regular expression engine.
            - More than a thousand fixes and small improvements.

            Once you have installed Vim 7.4a BETA you can find details about the
            changes since Vim 7.3 with:
                    :help version-7.4


            Gratitude
            ---------

            If you like Vim, please consider helping poor children in the south of
            Uganda: http://iccf-holland.org


            Where to get it
            ---------------

            The best way to obtain the latest Vim 7.4 is using Mercurial.
            Summary:
                    hg clone https://vim.googlecode.com/hg/ vim
                    cd vim
                    hg update
            More information here: http://www.vim.org/mercurial.php
            The tag for this beta version is v7-4a.

            For MS-Windows most of you will want the self-installing executable:
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

            Information about which files to download for what system (don't use the
            links, they are still for Vim 7.3):
                    http://www.vim.org/download.php

            A list of mirror sites can be found here:
                    http://www.vim.org/mirrors.php


            The files available for download:

            UNIX:
            sources + runtime files, bzip2 compressed:
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/unix/vim-7.4a.tar.bz2

            VARIOUS:
            help files converted to HTML:
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/doc/vim74ahtml.zip

            MS-WINDOWS one-size-fits-all:
            Self-installing, includes all runtime files, loads libraries dynamically:
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.exe

            MS-WINDOWS separate files:
            Runtime files:
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74art.zip
            GUI binary for Windows 95/98/NT/2000/XP/7:
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.zip
            GUI binary with OLE support:
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.zip
            Console version for Windows NT/2000/XP/7:
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.zip
            Sources for PC (with CR-LF):
                    ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74asrc.zip

            For debugging:
            ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74a.pdb
            ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/gvim74aole.pdb
            ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unstable/pc/vim74aw32.pdb


            Omitted in this version are:
            - The 16-bit DOS, OS/2 and Amiga versions, these are obsolete.
            - The 32-bit console version for MS-DOS/Windows 95/98
            - The 16 bit MS-Windows version


            Mailing lists
            -------------

            For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list.  There are a
            lot of tips, scripts and solutions.  You can ask your Vim questions, but
            only if you subscribe.  See http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim

            If you want to help Vim development, discuss new features or get the
            latest patches, subscribe to the vim-dev mailing list.  See
            http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-dev

            Subject specific lists:
            Multi-byte issues: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-multibyte
            Macintosh issues:  http://www.vim.org/maillist.php#vim-mac

            Before you ask a question you should search the archives, someone may
            already have given the answer.


            Reporting bugs
            --------------

            Send them to <vim-dev@...>.  Please describe the problem precisely.
            All the time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is
            spent on improving Vim!  Always give a reproducible example and try to
            find out which settings or other things influence the appearance of the
            bug.  Try starting without your own vimrc file: "vim -u NONE".  Try
            different machines if possible.  See ":help bugs" in Vim.  Send a patch
            if you can!


            Happy Vimming!

            Hi Vim on Mac users,

            I have uploaded a build of MacVim (snapshot 67) based on Vim 7.4a BETA:


            This build is for SNOW LEOPARD (10.6) and later versions of OS X.  (I will build a version targeted specifically for 10.8 on Monday, most likely.)

            Björn

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          • Douglas Drumond
            On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM, peiman khosravi ... happened (attached). ... I was not able to reproduce fullscreen issue here, but
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              On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@...> wrote:
              >
              > Also, I tried to resize the window by dragging the right edge and this happened (attached).
              >

              I was not able to reproduce fullscreen issue here, but I could see the glitch from screenshot, although minor (parts of the window got blurry during resizing, but got back to normal when resizing stopped). Disabling core renderer in Preferences → Advanced and reopening the window made the problem go away. I have no clue on how to solve it (Björn, can you give me some pointers? [1]), I'll see what I can do.


              Douglas


              [1] http://xkcd.com/138/

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            • björn
              ... I have tried very hard to avoid these types of display bugs, but unfortunately it is unavoidable without some form of double buffering which I have not
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                On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Douglas Drumond wrote:

                On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:
                >
                > Also, I tried to resize the window by dragging the right edge and this happened (attached).
                >

                I was not able to reproduce fullscreen issue here, but I could see the glitch from screenshot, although minor (parts of the window got blurry during resizing, but got back to normal when resizing stopped). Disabling core renderer in Preferences → Advanced and reopening the window made the problem go away. I have no clue on how to solve it (Björn, can you give me some pointers? [1]), I'll see what I can do.

                I have tried very hard to avoid these types of display bugs, but unfortunately it is unavoidable without some form of double buffering which I have not (yet) implemented for the Core Text renderer due to speed (and memory) concerns.  My current advice is - anybody who can't live with it should disable the Core Text renderer (but the speed of the default renderer may put you off).

                As for not being able to enter full screen: I do not have access to a Lion machine to try on.  But to rule out problems with Douglas' build, please try running the binary I built for 10.6.  On second thought - it does not support Lion-native full screen, so that may be somewhat pointless.  Maybe try disabling native full-screen in the prefs and see if that works.

                Björn 

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              • Douglas Drumond
                ... Core Text renderer (but the speed of the default renderer may put you off). Even on Snow Leopard build there are some glitches here, but nothing that makes
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                  On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM, björn <bjorn.winckler@...> wrote:
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                  > My current advice is - anybody who can't live with it should disable the Core Text renderer (but the speed of the default renderer may put you off).

                   
                  Even on Snow Leopard build there are some glitches here, but nothing that makes MacVim unusable (it's just on resizing). But with Core Renderer enabled it's unusable for Japanese text (Japanese characters are larger, so they pile up, but with CR disabled it does proper spacing). Since I use it for Japanese just once in a while, I left it with CR enabled for day to day programming.

                  > As for not being able to enter full screen: I do not have access to a Lion machine to try on.  But to rule out problems with Douglas' build, please try running the binary I built for 10.6.  On second thought - it does not support Lion-native full screen, so that may be somewhat pointless.  Maybe try disabling native full-screen in the prefs and see if that works.


                  I didn't have the fullscreen issue, so I couldn't test that.


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                • björn
                  On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Douglas Drumond ... This is news to me. How can I reproduce this? Björn -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac
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                    On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Douglas Drumond <drumond.douglas@...> wrote:

                    On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM, björn <bjorn.winckler@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > My current advice is - anybody who can't live with it should disable the Core Text renderer (but the speed of the default renderer may put you off).

                     
                    Even on Snow Leopard build there are some glitches here, but nothing that makes MacVim unusable (it's just on resizing). But with Core Renderer enabled it's unusable for Japanese text (Japanese characters are larger, so they pile up, but with CR disabled it does proper spacing). Since I use it for Japanese just once in a while, I left it with CR enabled for day to day programming.

                    This is news to me.  How can I reproduce this?

                    Björn

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                  • Douglas Drumond
                    ... that makes MacVim unusable (it s just on resizing). But with Core Renderer enabled it s unusable for Japanese text (Japanese characters are larger, so they
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                      On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:28 PM, björn <bjorn.winckler@...> wrote:
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                      >> Even on Snow Leopard build there are some glitches here, but nothing that makes MacVim unusable (it's just on resizing). But with Core Renderer enabled it's unusable for Japanese text (Japanese characters are larger, so they pile up, but with CR disabled it does proper spacing). Since I use it for Japanese just once in a while, I left it with CR enabled for day to day programming.
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                      > This is news to me.  How can I reproduce this?


                      Just paste (or type) any Japanese text, such as おはようございます, and it should become like the screenshot attached (wrong.png). The last character is fine, it's where the cursor is. If I navigate over the characters, each one becomes its natural size (double size) until it finally reaches the way it's in the other screenshot (right.png). Without Core Renderer, it's already like right.png.

                      To be sure it's not some plugin, I started with mvim -u NONE.

                      I downloaded snapshot 66 to test, it's fine for Japanese text, even with Core Renderer enabled.

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