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Re: Alternate MacVim Icon

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  • Blake Winton
    ... Would you consider allowing people a choice of icons in the Preferences? As far as I can tell, the preferences are quite MacVim-specific already, so adding
    Message 1 of 22 , Dec 2, 2011
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      On 11-12-02 12:39 , björn wrote:
      > On 2 December 2011 02:00, Drew Yeaton wrote:
      >> I understand the reticence with regards to changing something that's hasn't
      >> changed in a long time (eg. the vim icon).
      > I have made a serious effort to make MacVim not deviate from Vim on
      > other platforms. This really is supposed to be Vim on the Mac and not
      > a fork of Vim, or a Vim clone. To me the icon is a good indication
      > that MacVim is Vim. A lot of Vim users feel _very_ strongly about
      > keeping things uniform across platforms and as soon as I change one
      > little thing they tend to speak up. This is perhaps my strongest
      > reason for not wanting to change the icon.

      Would you consider allowing people a choice of icons in the Preferences?

      As far as I can tell, the preferences are quite MacVim-specific already,
      so adding options there shouldn't be nearly as controversial…

      Later,
      Blake.
    • Phil Dobbin
      ... Well, it s only a case of opening the package contents, storing the original icon elsewhere & replacing it with the new one (all whilst MacVim s not
      Message 2 of 22 , Dec 2, 2011
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        On 2/12/11 18:36, "Blake Winton" <bwinton@...> wrote:

        > Would you consider allowing people a choice of icons in the Preferences?
        >
        > As far as I can tell, the preferences are quite MacVim-specific already,
        > so adding options there shouldn't be nearly as controversialŠ

        Well, it's only a case of opening the package contents, storing the original
        icon elsewhere & replacing it with the new one (all whilst MacVim's not
        running ;-)... this can be done with any app's icon. It would be undesirable
        to package MacVim this way & then distribute it of course.

        Cheers,

        Phil.

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      • Blake Winton
        ... It s easier than that, for end users, at least… http://pimpmymac.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/how-to-change-icons/ But neither of those are something I ld
        Message 3 of 22 , Dec 2, 2011
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          On 11-12-02 14:33 , Phil Dobbin wrote:
          > On 2/12/11 18:36, "Blake Winton"<bwinton@...> wrote:
          >> Would you consider allowing people a choice of icons in the Preferences?
          >>
          >> As far as I can tell, the preferences are quite MacVim-specific already,
          >> so adding options there shouldn't be nearly as controversialŠ
          >
          > Well, it's only a case of opening the package contents, storing the original
          > icon elsewhere& replacing it with the new one (all whilst MacVim's not
          > running ;-)... this can be done with any app's icon. It would be undesirable
          > to package MacVim this way& then distribute it of course.

          It's easier than that, for end users, at least…

          http://pimpmymac.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/how-to-change-icons/

          But neither of those are something I'ld expect normal people (or non-mac
          people) to do, whereas a preference would work and be easy enough that
          almost anyone could find it.

          Later,
          Blake.
        • Phil Dobbin
          ... I d forgotten about that particular route. Used to use it in Classic Mac OS... Cheers, Phil. -- Nothing to see here... move along, move along -- You
          Message 4 of 22 , Dec 2, 2011
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            On 2/12/11 20:57, "Blake Winton" <bwinton@...> wrote:

            > It's easier than that, for end users, at least...
            >
            > http://pimpmymac.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/how-to-change-icons/
            >
            > But neither of those are something I'ld expect normal people (or non-mac
            > people) to do, whereas a preference would work and be easy enough that
            > almost anyone could find it.

            I'd forgotten about that particular route. Used to use it in Classic Mac
            OS...

            Cheers,

            Phil.

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          • Drew Yeaton
            Thanks for the awesome response. Your reasoning is sound, thanks for taking the time to explain the deal. I ll surely reach out to Bram, but your suggestion of
            Message 5 of 22 , Dec 2, 2011
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              Thanks for the awesome response. Your reasoning is sound, thanks for taking the time to explain the deal. I'll surely reach out to Bram, but your suggestion of adding a how-to on the MacVim wiki is a good idea.

              Drew

              On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:39 AM, björn wrote:

              > On 2 December 2011 02:00, Drew Yeaton wrote:
              >> Thanks for pointing out this conversation.
              >>
              >> I understand the reticence with regards to changing something that's hasn't
              >> changed in a long time (eg. the vim icon). However, I think pushing forward
              >> on this is a worthy cause—if nothing more that to attempt to move MacVim
              >> forward as a product. However, It is slightly discouraging to see the
              >> conversation about this shut down so abruptly with little reason.
              >
              > I think it is great that you decided to design your own icon, and a
              > lot of people seem to appreciate it. Wonderful! (I mean it, I'm not
              > being facetious)
              >
              > ...but, unfortunately I still stand by my earlier posts: I do not want
              > to change the icon to something that does not closely resemble the
              > official Vim icon that is displayed on www.vim.org ("the green diamond
              > with a V").
              >
              > I have made a serious effort to make MacVim not deviate from Vim on
              > other platforms. This really is supposed to be Vim on the Mac and not
              > a fork of Vim, or a Vim clone. To me the icon is a good indication
              > that MacVim is Vim. A lot of Vim users feel _very_ strongly about
              > keeping things uniform across platforms and as soon as I change one
              > little thing they tend to speak up. This is perhaps my strongest
              > reason for not wanting to change the icon.
              >
              > That being said: I'm not a fan of the "diamond and V" design myself
              > and I have been vocal about this in the past. However, I've put my
              > own wishes to the side on this issue so saying "no" to new icons is
              > not something I am particularly happy about. My rather abrupt
              > statement in the thread that was linked to by Caleb was an attempt for
              > people to stop asking me about this, but I guess that was not the best
              > way to deal with it. (There is at least one older thread were this
              > has been discussed as well.)
              >
              > Anyway, the right person to approach regarding a redesign for the Vim
              > icon is Bram Moolenaar (the author of Vim). I for one would be happy
              > if you could convince him that it is about time for the Vim icon to
              > receive a facelift.
              >
              > In the meantime, the best idea would be to publish step-by-step
              > instructions on how to get your redesigned icon and replace the
              > default icon. You are welcome to add a page to the MacVim wiki [1].
              >
              > Björn
              >
              > [1] https://github.com/b4winckler/macvim/wiki
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            • YOSHI
              It s great. Thanks. -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more
              Message 6 of 22 , Feb 7, 2013
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                It's great. Thanks.

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              • WenMin Tu
                在 2011年12月1日星期四UTC+8上午9时22分28秒,Drew Yeaton写道: ... this is great, they should use it in the next snapshot build -- -- You
                Message 7 of 22 , Feb 22, 2013
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                  在 2011年12月1日星期四UTC+8上午9时22分28秒,Drew Yeaton写道:
                  > After using MacVim for quite some time, I thought I would give back to
                  > the MacVim community in the form of design work. I'm proposing an
                  > alternate icon that I feel makes MacVim appear more at home on the
                  > Mac. My design goals were few—
                  >
                  > + Give MacVim some character while keeping the familiar MacVim green
                  > + Align with the icon design suggestions in Apple's HIG
                  > + Give MacVim a modern appearance
                  >
                  > View it on Dribbble here:
                  > http://dribbble.com/shots/337065-MacVim-Icon-Updated
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                  > What do you think?

                  this is great, they should use it in the next snapshot build

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                • Jimmy Burrell
                  Way cool, thanks. ... -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For
                  Message 8 of 22 , Mar 20, 2013
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                    Way cool, thanks.

                    On Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:22:28 PM UTC-6, Drew Yeaton wrote:
                    > After using MacVim for quite some time, I thought I would give back to
                    > the MacVim community in the form of design work. I'm proposing an
                    > alternate icon that I feel makes MacVim appear more at home on the
                    > Mac. My design goals were few—
                    >
                    > + Give MacVim some character while keeping the familiar MacVim green
                    > + Align with the icon design suggestions in Apple's HIG
                    > + Give MacVim a modern appearance
                    >
                    > View it on Dribbble here:
                    > http://dribbble.com/shots/337065-MacVim-Icon-Updated
                    >
                    > What do you think?

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                  • Drew Miller
                    Love this design! Thanks. -- -- You received this message from the vim_mac maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For
                    Message 9 of 22 , Mar 23, 2013
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                      Love this design! Thanks.

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