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  • Eric Weir
    I ve discovered a color scheme that I like better than the one I ve been using since starting with Vim/MacVim a few months ago. However, there s one element
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      I've discovered a color scheme that I like better than the one I've been using since starting with Vim/MacVim a few months ago. However, there's one element that clashes for me -- the color of the cursor. I know what color I'd like it to be, i.e., the color that CameCase words get in a plugin I use using this scheme.

      How do I change the color of the cursor? How do I identify and specify the color I want?

      Thanks,
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    • David Patrick Henderson
      ... there is a Readme file on color schemes at :e $VIMRUNTIME/colors/README.txt. I would suggest copying the color scheme you like to ~/.vim/colors/, renaming
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        On 07 Jul 2011, at 07:26, Eric Weir wrote:

        >
        > I've discovered a color scheme that I like better than the one I've been using since starting with Vim/MacVim a few months ago. However, there's one element that clashes for me -- the color of the cursor. I know what color I'd like it to be, i.e., the color that CameCase words get in a plugin I use using this scheme.
        >
        > How do I change the color of the cursor? How do I identify and specify the color I want?
        >
        :help :colorscheme

        there is a Readme file on color schemes at :e $VIMRUNTIME/colors/README.txt.

        I would suggest copying the color scheme you like to ~/.vim/colors/, renaming it, and setting the modified copy as your color scheme.

        You can try color names <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors> or use #RRGGBB hexadecimal notation in color schemes. Names work if defined in vim, RGB notation always works.

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      • Eric Weir
        ... Thanks, David. A new arena of learning in Vim for me. This will be very helpful. Regarding the third item above, I use MacVim. Currently the color scheme
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          On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:40 AM, David Patrick Henderson wrote:

          > :help :colorscheme
          >
          > there is a Readme file on color schemes at :e $VIMRUNTIME/colors/README.txt.
          >
          > I would suggest copying the color scheme you like to ~/.vim/colors/, renaming it, and setting the modified copy as your color scheme.
          >
          > You can try color names <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors> or use #RRGGBB hexadecimal notation in color schemes. Names work if defined in vim, RGB notation always works.

          Thanks, David. A new arena of learning in Vim for me. This will be very helpful.

          Regarding the third item above, I use MacVim. Currently the color scheme in question resides only in the runtime folder in the MacVim package. If I copy it to ~/.vim/colors will it supersede the copy in the runtime folder? x

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        • David Patrick Henderson
          ... No problem, I always say when one stops learning one is dead. ... I believe that is correct, but if you rename the scheme there will be no question of what
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            On 07 Jul 2011, at 09:25, Eric Weir wrote:

            > Thanks, David. A new arena of learning in Vim for me. This will be very helpful.

            No problem, I always say when one stops learning one is dead.
            >
            > Regarding the third item above, I use MacVim. Currently the color scheme in question resides only in the runtime folder in the MacVim package. If I copy it to ~/.vim/colors will it supersede the copy in the runtime folder? x

            I believe that is correct, but if you rename the scheme there will be no question of what is happening as regards loading (I also use MacVim).

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          • Eric Weir
            ... Thanks again, David, I m pretty certain I ve identified the color from this. It s called Blue ! [Or in hexadecimal, #0000FF.] I ve coped the scheme from
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              On Jul 7, 2011, at 11:40 AM, David Patrick Henderson wrote:

              > I would suggest copying the color scheme you like to ~/.vim/colors/, renaming it, and setting the modified copy as your color scheme.
              >
              > You can try color names <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors> or use #RRGGBB hexadecimal notation in color schemes. Names work if defined in vim, RGB notation always works.

              Thanks again, David,

              I'm pretty certain I've identified the color from this. It's called "Blue"! [Or in hexadecimal, #0000FF.]

              I've coped the scheme from the runtime folder to ~/.vim/colors. I don't want to change the copy in the runtime folder. How do I get the copy in ~/.vim/colors to control?

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            • David Patrick Henderson
              ... .gvimrc is generally where one inserts configuration directives that apply only to gui versions of vim: like MacVim or gvim on unix/linux systems. David P
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                On 07 Jul 2011, at 10:40, Eric Weir wrote:

                > I've coped the scheme from the runtime folder to ~/.vim/colors. I don't want to change the copy in the runtime folder. How do I get the copy in ~/.vim/colors to control?

                Easiest way is to rename it and set up your .gvimrc with at least one setting:

                :color scheme name_of_colorscheme

                .gvimrc is generally where one inserts configuration directives that apply only to gui versions of vim: like MacVim or gvim on unix/linux systems.

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              • Eric Weir
                ... For sure! ... I did it! Changed the name of the color in the copy of the scheme in ~/.vim/colors. Then, taking a cue from this provided by Reid Thompson:
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                  > On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:01 PM, David Patrick Henderson wrote:
                  >
                  >> On 07 Jul 2011, at 09:25, Eric Weir wrote:
                  >>
                  >> Thanks, David. A new arena of learning in Vim for me. This will be very helpful.
                  >
                  > No problem, I always say when one stops learning one is dead.

                  For sure!

                  >> Regarding the third item above, I use MacVim. Currently the color scheme in question resides only in the runtime folder in the MacVim package. If I copy it to ~/.vim/colors will it supersede the copy in the runtime folder?
                  >
                  > I believe that is correct, but if you rename the scheme there will be no question of what is happening as regards loading (I also use MacVim).

                  I did it! Changed the name of the color in the copy of the scheme in ~/.vim/colors. Then, taking a cue from this provided by Reid Thompson: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=106

                  I did

                  :w [to the ~/.vim/colors copy of the scheme]
                  then
                  :so %

                  And there it was.

                  More to be learned from all the resources I've been provided, but thanks again to everyone who responded.

                  Sincerely,
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                • Eric Weir
                  ... Thanks. That was where I d specified the scheme. Didn t know which copy, the one in /runtime/colors or ~/.vim/colors, would control. Apparently the latter.
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                    On Jul 7, 2011, at 1:48 PM, David Patrick Henderson wrote:

                    > Easiest way is to rename it and set up your .gvimrc with at least one setting:
                    >
                    > :color scheme name_of_colorscheme
                    >
                    > .gvimrc is generally where one inserts configuration directives that apply only to gui versions of vim: like MacVim or gvim on unix/linux systems.

                    Thanks. That was where I'd specified the scheme. Didn't know which copy, the one in /runtime/colors or ~/.vim/colors, would control. Apparently the latter.

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                  • David Patrick Henderson
                    ... ~/.vim should load last on vim startup and therefore override anything that came before. David P Henderson c: xxx.xxx.xxxx -- Premature optimization is
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                      On 07 Jul 2011, at 11:09, Eric Weir wrote:

                      > Thanks. That was where I'd specified the scheme. Didn't know which copy, the one in /runtime/colors or ~/.vim/colors, would control. Apparently the latter.

                      ~/.vim should load last on vim startup and therefore override anything that came before.

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                    • Niklas Lindström
                      Hi! On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:48 PM, David Patrick Henderson ... I use the following approach to customize a colorscheme. Create a new, empty file in
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                        Hi!

                        On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:48 PM, David Patrick Henderson
                        <dp.chaoswerks@...> wrote:
                        > On 07 Jul 2011, at 10:40, Eric Weir wrote:
                        >
                        >> I've coped the scheme from the runtime folder to ~/.vim/colors. I don't want to change the copy in the runtime folder. How do I get the copy in ~/.vim/colors to control?
                        >
                        > Easiest way is to rename it and set up your .gvimrc with at least one setting:
                        >
                        > :color scheme name_of_colorscheme
                        >
                        > .gvimrc is generally where one inserts configuration directives that apply only to gui versions of vim: like MacVim or gvim on unix/linux systems.

                        I use the following approach to customize a colorscheme. Create a new,
                        empty file in "~/.vim/colors/" and add something like the following
                        (here a "zellner_mod.vim" modifying the zellner colorscheme):

                        runtime colors/zellner.vim

                        let g:colors_name = "zellner_mod"

                        hi LineNr guibg=grey
                        hi NonText guibg=grey guifg=darkgreen
                        hi StatusLine guibg=grey48

                        Then use :colorscheme zellner_mod to load it.

                        Best regards,
                        Niklas

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                      • retiredff
                        Here is my setting for the cursor: USE YOUR OWN COLORS
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                          Here is my setting for the cursor: USE YOUR OWN COLORS <=============


                          " ==================================================
                          " Change cursor color in different modes
                          " ==================================================

                          hi Cursor guifg=White guibg=DodgerBlue3 guifg=white
                          hi iCursor guifg=White guibg=red

                          set guicursor=n-v-c:block-Cursor
                          set guicursor+=i-ci:ver25-iCursor

                          Tony


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                        • Eric Weir
                          ... Thanks, Niklas. With help of the list I was able to change the color of the cursor, and actually to experiment a bit with colors, in the scheme in
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                            On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Niklas Lindström wrote:

                            > I use the following approach to customize a colorscheme. Create a new,
                            > empty file in "~/.vim/colors/" and add something like the following
                            > (here a "zellner_mod.vim" modifying the zellner colorscheme):
                            >
                            > runtime colors/zellner.vim
                            >
                            > let g:colors_name = "zellner_mod"
                            >
                            > hi LineNr guibg=grey
                            > hi NonText guibg=grey guifg=darkgreen
                            > hi StatusLine guibg=grey48
                            >
                            > Then use :colorscheme zellner_mod to load it.

                            Thanks, Niklas. With help of the list I was able to change the color of the cursor, and actually to experiment a bit with colors, in the scheme in question.

                            As I understand your suggestion, it strike me as similar to this, which Reid Thompson shared with me off list.
                            http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=106 But perhaps I am mistaken?

                            Sincerely,
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                          • Eric Weir
                            ... Thanks, Tony. I didn t do anything like the last two lines, but I did what you ve done in the first to in the cursor lines for the gui and the terminal in
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                              On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:28 PM, retiredff wrote:

                              > Here is my setting for the cursor: USE YOUR OWN COLORS <=============
                              >
                              > " ==================================================
                              > " Change cursor color in different modes
                              > " ==================================================
                              >
                              > hi Cursor guifg=White guibg=DodgerBlue3 guifg=white
                              > hi iCursor guifg=White guibg=red
                              >
                              > set guicursor=n-v-c:block-Cursor
                              > set guicursor+=i-ci:ver25-iCursor

                              Thanks, Tony. I didn't do anything like the last two lines, but I did what you've done in the first to in the cursor lines for the gui and the terminal in the scheme.

                              Sincerely,
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                            • Tony Berkopes
                              your welcome... I m working on reconfiguring my statusline so it is similar to the one in Cream. http://cream.sourceforge.net/statusline.html Tony ... -- You
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                                your welcome...

                                I'm working on reconfiguring my statusline so it is similar to the one in Cream.

                                http://cream.sourceforge.net/statusline.html

                                Tony

                                On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Eric Weir wrote:

                                >
                                > On Jul 7, 2011, at 8:28 PM, retiredff wrote:
                                >
                                >> Here is my setting for the cursor: USE YOUR OWN COLORS <=============
                                >>
                                >> " ==================================================
                                >> " Change cursor color in different modes
                                >> " ==================================================
                                >>
                                >> hi Cursor guifg=White guibg=DodgerBlue3 guifg=white
                                >> hi iCursor guifg=White guibg=red
                                >>
                                >> set guicursor=n-v-c:block-Cursor
                                >> set guicursor+=i-ci:ver25-iCursor
                                >
                                > Thanks, Tony. I didn't do anything like the last two lines, but I did what you've done in the first to in the cursor lines for the gui and the terminal in the scheme.
                                >
                                > Sincerely,
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                              • Eric Weir
                                ... Yeah, I noticed that. As a novice, I haven t even gotten around to that, yet. ... Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eeweir@bellsouth.net -- You received this
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                                  On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Tony Berkopes wrote:

                                  > I'm working on reconfiguring my statusline so it is similar to the one in Cream.
                                  >
                                  > http://cream.sourceforge.net/statusline.html

                                  Yeah, I noticed that. As a novice, I haven't even gotten around to that, yet.

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                                • Tony Mechelynck
                                  ... 1) If the colorscheme you ve come to love is one distributed with Vim (and found in $VIMRUNTIME/colors/) then don t modify it in-place. The way to modify
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                                    On 07/07/11 16:26, Eric Weir wrote:
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                                    > I've discovered a color scheme that I like better than the one I've been using since starting with Vim/MacVim a few months ago. However, there's one element that clashes for me -- the color of the cursor. I know what color I'd like it to be, i.e., the color that CameCase words get in a plugin I use using this scheme.
                                    >
                                    > How do I change the color of the cursor? How do I identify and specify the color I want?
                                    >
                                    > Thanks,
                                    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                    > Eric Weir
                                    > Decatur, GA USA
                                    > eeweir@...
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >

                                    1) If the colorscheme you've come to love is one distributed with Vim
                                    (and found in $VIMRUNTIME/colors/) then don't modify it in-place. The
                                    way to modify such a scheme for your own youse is to:

                                    a) Make sure that directory $HOME/.vim/colors exists, and if necessary,
                                    create it, with its parent if that doesn't yet exist either
                                    b) Copy the colorscheme you want to edit into that new directory, and
                                    give it a new name that doesn't clash with the name of any existing
                                    colorscheme
                                    c) THEN you may modify that "new" colorscheme without fear.

                                    (Anything in the directory tree starting at $VIMRUNTIME may be silently
                                    modified whenever you upgrade Vim.)

                                    2) See
                                    :help 'guicursor'
                                    :help lCursor
                                    :help hl-Cursor
                                    :help hl-CursorIM
                                    :help CursorIM
                                    for the names of the cursor colors used in the gvim or MacVim GUI. In
                                    short, they are:
                                    - Cursor the cursor color for everything except what is said below
                                    - lCursor when a keymap (or language-mappings) are in effect
                                    - CursorIM when an Input Method (XIM or Windows IME) is in effect

                                    See also:
                                    - about one page below ":help xfree-xterm" how to set the cursor color
                                    in an xterm
                                    - ":help xterm-blink" to make the cursor blink in an xterm
                                    - the full ":help xterm-color" section about how to nudge some
                                    particular terminals to get color in them
                                    - ":help termcap-cursor-color" about how to change cursor color in some
                                    terminals when going into or out of Insert mode.


                                    Best regards,
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                                  • Eric Weir
                                    ... Thanks, Tony. Yeah, it was distributed with Vim, with MacVim that is. And I did what you said -- copied the scheme to ~/.vim/colors and made the changes
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                                      On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:47 AM, Tony Mechelynck wrote:

                                      > 1) If the colorscheme you've come to love is one distributed with Vim (and found in $VIMRUNTIME/colors/) then don't modify it in-place. The way to modify such a scheme for your own youse is to:
                                      > a) Make sure that directory $HOME/.vim/colors exists, and if necessary, create it, with its parent if that doesn't yet exist either
                                      > b) Copy the colorscheme you want to edit into that new directory, and give it a new name that doesn't clash with the name of any existing colorscheme
                                      > c) THEN you may modify that "new" colorscheme without fear.
                                      >
                                      > (Anything in the directory tree starting at $VIMRUNTIME may be silently modified whenever you upgrade Vim.)

                                      Thanks, Tony. Yeah, it was distributed with Vim, with MacVim that is. And I did what you said -- copied the scheme to ~/.vim/colors and made the changes there. And thanks, too, for the pointers to relevant help.

                                      Sincerely,
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                                    • Niklas Lindström
                                      Hi, ... Just to emphasise, with my suggestion step b is slightly different: - create a *new and empty* file in ~/.vim/colors/ , for instance
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                                        Hi,

                                        On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Eric Weir <eeweir@...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > On Jul 9, 2011, at 3:47 AM, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
                                        >
                                        >> 1) If the colorscheme you've come to love is one distributed with Vim (and found in $VIMRUNTIME/colors/) then don't modify it in-place. The way to modify such a scheme for your own youse is to:
                                        >> a) Make sure that directory $HOME/.vim/colors exists, and if necessary, create it, with its parent if that doesn't yet exist either
                                        >> b) Copy the colorscheme you want to edit into that new directory, and give it a new name that doesn't clash with the name of any existing colorscheme
                                        >> c) THEN you may modify that "new" colorscheme without fear.
                                        >>
                                        >> (Anything in the directory tree starting at $VIMRUNTIME may be silently modified whenever you upgrade Vim.)
                                        >
                                        > Thanks, Tony. Yeah, it was distributed with Vim, with MacVim that is. And I did what you said -- copied the scheme to ~/.vim/colors and made the changes there. And thanks, too, for the pointers to relevant help.

                                        Just to emphasise, with my suggestion step 'b' is slightly different:

                                        - create a *new and empty* file in "~/.vim/colors/", for instance
                                        "zellner_mod.vim",
                                        - add the following (here *reusing* the zellner colorscheme):

                                        runtime colors/zellner.vim
                                        let g:colors_name = "zellner_mod"

                                        - add or override any highlights you want,
                                        - use :colorscheme zellner_mod to load it.

                                        The key thing is that :runtime sources the colorscheme from where it
                                        is -- so you don't have to copy its contents. This means it can be
                                        updated and your modified version will get those changes as well
                                        (unless it overrides them of course).

                                        (See :help :runtime for details; the gist of it being that it works
                                        like :source but looks for the path given in each directory by
                                        'runtimepath' (i.e. $VIMRUNTIME, your local $HOME/.vim, eventual
                                        pathogen bundles, etc.).)

                                        ('let g:colors_name = ...' is of course set to whatever name you gave
                                        this new colorscheme.)

                                        Best regards,
                                        Niklas

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