Re: Plugin for Video Comments
- Yes thats an interesting service, although the comments on Scoble's blog post about it,
give an indication of some of the reservations people have about this sort of thing:
Im not sure it goes too far at harnessing all those forums to make a broader community,
well it does, just not quite how Id imagined it, maybe it is a good model, maybe it is a tad
confusing or open to stalking abuse, I dunno, I need to look at the other similar services.
Its good to know there are people trying this stuff, I have my doubts about their chances
Maybe comments/forums/whatever being aggregated together, so that the hub isnt the
host of that data, only the window to seeing it all in once place, is the answer, but Im not
quite sure how that would be done in a way that people can actually digest stuff nicely.
I just cant get excited about single services that require a lot of users to make their plan
work. Need lots of different services & software that is interoperable. Signing up to another
service that will be the centre of your digital life for at least the next 5 minutes, is growing
tiresome. And this is still true even though companies are trying harder than ever to open
up more, I just not sure the 'promised land' can be reached unless they open up to such an
extent that they exterminate their own potential revenue stream dreams.
Oh well, I guess the web is likely to remain a tangled web with plenty of fragmentation, for
the forseeable. I suppose it is a great strength as well as a weakness - oh the splendid
inconveniences and inefficiency of it all.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Sull <sulleleven@...> wrote:
> something like disqus.com, which deems it important to allow data
> export and not be a walled garden using yours and your commenters
> On Jan 31, 2008 5:01 PM, Steve Watkins <steve@...> wrote:
> So maybe a part of effective conversations, comments, communication,
> is bridging the
> gap between the shared space of groups, forums, etc, with the personal
> space of people's
> own blogs?
Regarding semantic markup... Indeed.
That's why i made mention of XFN earlier to imply that taking the same
concepts of people relations through semantics (my profiles and
friends profiles and discovering connections), the same should be
applied to the conversations being had among these people.
If you are posting a response to another post (barring
trackback/pingback/linkback), making use of semantic markup can build
the graph that can be mapped out and presented logically. a simple
rel or rev with url to the permalink and/or media file along with
other sensible extensions is how this thing should sprout
I've thought a little on what structure can be applied. When thinking
about media pooling, such as the Semanal video pool.... its not truly
about commenting, replying and responding. its about contributing and
But a contributed video to Semanal can also be a response to another
video. So it might make sense to focus on multiple methods and means
to interconnecting media and people in ways that can be trailed via
web services and plugins to common platforms such as WP, Drupal etc.
As far as output... how it all would look and feel. that's maybe a
bit moot in the beginning stages because once the groundwork is in
place, then developers and designers can have infinite ways to present
the relationships and content. I think MIke pointed that out earleir
in this thread or somewhere. It's all challenging and definately the
look and feel discussion is important and should be happening
concurrently... with people doing mockups and prototypes. But some
level of samepageism needs to be set.