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  • Enric
    ... Oops, I meant to say: My response to Michael Eisner and Barry Diller s contention that content remains king on the internet: http://tinyurl.com/2wyzjs or
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      --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Enric" <enric@...> wrote:
      >
      > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Gena" <compumavengal@> wrote:
      > >
      > > I try to limit how much crap I can stand in one day. Today, not so
      > > good. I feel barfy. I was reading the article about Steven Bocho's
      > > stepping into internet video and he sees it as a diversion. That's
      > > what Bocho sees or has come to understand about Internet video.
      > >
      > > And how do you divert the masses quickly? According to him it is sex.
      > > I'm not against sex. I am not against videos about sex, that included
      > > sex or even if there is no sex at all.
      > >
      > > My point is that it is hard for many people to have an expanded
      > > vision. Most people think YouTube is vlogging. That's what the news
      > > media and a bunch of other sites that post YT videos tell people.
      > >
      > > There is a lot of education/information exchanging that has to take
      > > place with the non-blogging public. Unfortunately, the news media and
      > > others are putting there imprint on what they want to perceive as
      > > blogs/vlogs. When I do presentations people are surprised when I show
      > > them a variety of blogs and non YT vlogs. I hear it all the time "I
      > > didn't know!" "How long has this been going on?"
      > >
      > > Another thing to consider is time is fractured. Most people tend to
      > > allocate what time they have available with and growing set of
      > resources.
      > >
      > > Good vlogs are not easy to find for novice users. You have to have the
      > > right players on the system. Bandwidth issues. And even if you send
      > > them the link they are too embarrassed to tell you they don't know how
      > > to view the video.
      > >
      > > In closing, I hold dear that statement that Barry Diller gave as few
      > > months ago and is buried in the archive.
      > >
      > > A quote from InterActiveCorp CEO Barry Diller:
      > >
      > > > There is not that much talent in the world, and talent always outs.
      > > > There are very few really talented people in closets that don't get
      > > > out. When we are talking about mass audience, which is the system of
      > > > entertainment we have known for some time, when you are really
      > > making a television program or a game there will be relatively few
      > > people [able to do that] because there is simply not enough talent.
      > > That may be a birdbrained statement, but it is mine.
      > > >
      > > > "People with talent and expertise at making entertainment products
      > > are not going to be displaced by 1,800 people coming up with their
      > > videos that they think are going to have an appeal."
      > >
      > > I continue to live (and blog/vlog)in defiance!
      >
      > My response to Michael Eisner and Barry Diller's content that content
      > remains king:
      >
      > http://tinyurl.com/2wyzjs
      > or
      > http://lucidmedia.cirne.com/index.php/2007/04/01/justintv-p0wns-eisner/
      >
      > -- Enric
      >

      Oops, I meant to say:

      My response to Michael Eisner and Barry Diller's contention that
      content remains king on the internet:

      http://tinyurl.com/2wyzjs
      or
      http://lucidmedia.cirne.com/index.php/2007/04/01/justintv-p0wns-eisner/

      – Enric

      > >
      > > Gena
      > > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
      > > http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com
      > >
      > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <rupert@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Yeah, and this weekend I listened to an extremely intelligent,
      well-
      > > > respected man telling me that man-made global warming was a myth,
      > > > presumably just because he wanted to provoke a response / have an
      > > > iconoclastic opinion. I didn't rise to that, either.
      > > >
      > > > These aren't really provocative - they're shallow subjective
      > personal
      > > > opinions based on limited experiences, masquerading as broad
      > > > statements of fact.
      > > >
      > > > I always assume that the majority of regular people think I'm
      weird
      > > > (or worse) for putting videos online, because I think they
      > probably do.
      > > >
      > > > Define 'failure' as stated by David Scott Lexis, when he says
      'video
      > > > blogs have been a failure'. What have they failed at?
      > > >
      > > > So they're not as popular or accessible as American Idol (even
      here,
      > > > we're infected) but then neither is [fill in blank]. I guess
      [fill
      > > > in blank] has been a failure, too. That's a really interesting
      > > > viewpoint, David - thanks for your input.
      > > >
      > > > From all the scores of people that I know or have talked to about
      > my
      > > > videoblog in Real Life over the past 2 years, there are only 2 who
      > > > have blogs and maybe 3 others who ever read blogs.
      > > >
      > > > I forward on links to vlogs to my friends and family whenever I
      > think
      > > > they'd be interested in a particular video - but not one has ever
      > > > wanted to have a vlog or blog themselves or to continue to watch
      or
      > > > read by themselves.
      > > >
      > > > The overwhelming majority of people you talk to in the UK think
      that
      > > > blogs are confessional public diaries for narcissists (not that
      > > > they've ever read one, if you ask). By this measure, 'blogs have
      > > > been a failure'
      > > >
      > > > As for that other guy "Erick"s definition of entertainment...
      yawn.
      > > > Some people make them. Some people watch them. Some people enjoy
      > > > them. Some people do good and interesting things and reach
      > audiences
      > > > that they couldn't have reached before. What possible relevance
      has
      > > > someone's subjective viewpoint of 'boring' or 'failure' got to do
      > > > with this? My wife Kate is enjoying the new American Idol. I'd
      > > > rather drill out my own teeth than sit through it. So what?
      > > >
      > > > I don't really know why I'm replying to this, because I don't
      think
      > > > these opinions are worth getting bothered about. I'm just putting
      > > > off work. Now that *is* boring. Maybe I'll just watch a few
      videos
      > > > before I start.
      > > >
      > > > Rupert
      > > > http://www.fatgirlinohio.org
      > > > http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/
      > > >
      > > > On 19 Mar 2007, at 10:43, Michael Schaap wrote:
      > > >
      > > > FYI
      > > >
      > > > In the comments on a short TechCrunch review (http://tinyurl.com/
      > > > 2bcqx5) about VLIP i
      > > > read the following provocative statements:
      > > >
      > > > 'Erick' writes:
      > > >
      > > > "Unless a person is at least the slightest bit entertaining,
      > Vlogging
      > > > stinks. I dont want to
      > > > look at some weirdo sitting at home/work talking into a webcam
      about
      > > > their lame day or
      > > > skill or opinion. If you arent as entertaining as Ze Frank, then
      you
      > > > stink and nobody wants
      > > > to hear/see you..."
      > > >
      > > > and David Scott Lexis writes:
      > > >
      > > > "Video blogs have been a failure, as I noted in a couple of
      AlwaysOn
      > > > Network columns.
      > > > Videos are one thing; automatically downloading video blogs (or
      > video
      > > > podcasts; I prefer
      > > > "video podcasts") is too bandwidth intensive, too slow, takes up
      too
      > > > much hard disk space.
      > > >
      > > > You want to leave your computer on all night to download video
      > > > podcasts? Well, good for
      > > > you … but you're in the minority. How many video podcasts have
      been
      > > > successful? Do any
      > > > have over 10,000 subscribers to their feed?
      > > >
      > > > Compare and contrast with "standard" blogs — such as this one.
      > Matter
      > > > of fact, are there
      > > > any video podcasts that have even 1% of the subscribers that
      > > > TechCrunch has? None that
      > > > I'm aware of, and in my public blogroll I subscribe to a lot
      (http://
      > > > www.bloglines.com/
      > > > public/DSL).
      > > >
      > > > Mind you, this might be a decent idea, but until bandwidth, hard
      > disk
      > > > space and all sorts
      > > > of other limitations are overcome (like the need for better and
      > > > easier production
      > > > techniques), it will remain a novelty for the SXSW crowd (and
      > they're
      > > > not early adopters,
      > > > they're "way-too-early adopters"; in the 70's they would have been
      > > > touting the wonders of
      > > > AI).
      > > >
      > > > BTW, I still subscribe to several video podcasts for my iPod.
      But I
      > > > suspect that I'm in the
      > > > minority; I know very few people outside of the Bay area who
      > > > subscribe to more than a few
      > > > (if any) — and I don't know anyone in China (where I currently
      live)
      > > > who subscribes to any
      > > > … not even one. YouTube, thumbs up; video blogs & video podcasts,
      > > > thumbs down (too
      > > > early).
      > > >
      > > > Remember, so-called and self-anointed pioneers usually wind up
      with
      > > > arrows in their
      > > > back. Besides, how many people really have good "TV"/video
      presence?
      > > > Not a lot. Good
      > > > podcasters are a subset of good bloggers, but good vloggers are a
      > > > subset of good
      > > > podcasters: That's a tiny set..."
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > > >
      > >
      >
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