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  • wade james
    ABU NIDAL is the man that Ollie North mentioned in his hearing on Capitol Hill. Absolutly not Bin Laden. Jim Wade ... Reagan ... Isn t ... So what the hell
    Message 1 of 7 , Apr 29, 2002
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      ABU NIDAL is the man that Ollie North mentioned in his hearing on Capitol Hill. Absolutly not Bin Laden.
      Jim Wade


      Tom Westhoven <rvn6869@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      >Anyone remember this??
      >> > It was 1987!
      >> >
      >> > At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.
      >>Col.Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the
      Reagan
      >>Administration. There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the
      >>third degree, but what he said was stunning!
      >> >
      >> > He was being drilled by some senator; "Did you not recently spend close
      >to
      >>$60,000 for a home security system?"
      >> >
      >> > Ollie replied,"Yes, I did, Sir."
      >> >
      >> > The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience,"
      Isn't
      >>that just a little excessive?"
      >> >
      >> > "No, sir," continued Ollie.
      >> >
      >> > "No? And why not?" the senator asked.
      >> >
      >> > "Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir"
      >> >
      >> > "Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.
      >> >
      >> > "By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.
      >> >
      >> > "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"
      >> >
      >> > "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.
      >> >
      >> > At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't
      >>pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of
      >>people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. "Why are you
      >so
      >>afraid of this man?" the senator asked.
      >> >
      >> > "Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie
      >>answered.
      >> >
      >> > "And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.
      >> >
      >> > "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team
      >>be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."
      >> >
      >> > The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was
      >shown
      >>of the clip.
      >> >
      >> > By the way, that senator was Al Gore.
      >> >
      >> > Unreal




      So what the hell part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand ???

      "The Government of the People, For the People" !!
      Has now become the Enemy of the People, Against the People !!!!


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    • Michael C. Mitchell
      Accelerating progress in lowering age of receipt for Reservists retire pay to 55, Senate bill (S 2250) was introduced into the Senate April 25. The bill
      Message 2 of 7 , May 1, 2002
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        Accelerating progress in lowering age of receipt for
        Reservists' retire pay to 55, Senate bill (S 2250) was
        introduced into the Senate April 25. The bill
        introduced by Sen. Jon Corzine, (D-New Jersey) has no
        differences with the House bill, H.R. 3831.

        Both amend title 10, United States Code, "to reduce
        the age for receipt of military retire pay for
        nonregular service from 60 to 55."

        The House bill introduced March 4, has acquired 61
        co-sponsors as of
        April 29. After 4 days, no co-sponsors have yet joined
        the Senate
        measure. The Senate bill was referred to the Senate
        Armed Services
        Committee.

        Co-Sponsorships are used as a way of building support
        for passage of any bill in either House of Congress.
        They come as the result of either a member of the
        Senate or House simply supporting the bill on the face
        of it, or as a result of constituent interest
        expressed by email, faxes or letters of support sent.

        Those wishing to encourage their Senators' support of
        this bill, can do so by going to:
        http://congress.org/congressorg/issues/bills/billnum=S.2250&congress=07



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      • Michael C. Mitchell
        My apologies to you for sending an reply all out. I ll try to be more careful in the future. -mike mitchell Accelerating progress in lowering age of receipt
        Message 3 of 7 , May 1, 2002
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          My apologies to you for sending an "reply all" out.
          I'll try to be more careful in the future.
          -mike mitchell




          Accelerating progress in lowering age of receipt for
          Reservists' retire pay to 55, Senate bill (S 2250) was
          introduced into the Senate April 25. The bill
          introduced by Sen. Jon Corzine, (D-New Jersey) has no
          differences with the House bill, H.R. 3831.

          Both amend title 10, United States Code, "to reduce
          the age for receipt of military retire pay for
          nonregular service from 60 to 55."

          The House bill introduced March 4, has acquired 61
          co-sponsors as of
          April 29. After 4 days, no co-sponsors have yet joined
          the Senate
          measure. The Senate bill was referred to the Senate
          Armed Services
          Committee.

          Co-Sponsorships are used as a way of building support
          for passage of any bill in either House of Congress.
          They come as the result of either a member of the
          Senate or House simply supporting the bill on the face
          of it, or as a result of constituent interest
          expressed by email, faxes or letters of support sent.

          Those wishing to encourage their Senators' support of
          this bill, can do so by going to:
          http://congress.org/congressorg/issues/bills/billnum=S.2250&congress=07



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        • william e harris
          Just to refresh everyone who this guy is. k2afe Abu Nidal is alive and well in one of Saddam Hussein’s magnificent villas on the outskirts of Baghdad -
          Message 4 of 7 , May 1, 2002
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            Just to refresh everyone who this guy is. k2afe

            Abu Nidal is alive and well in one of Saddam Hussein�s
            magnificent villas on the outskirts of Baghdad - according
            to intelligence reports received this week by the CIA,
            Mossad and French intelligence.

            All three services conclude that this most feared of
            terrorists who has remained out of sight for a year - and
            has not attacked a Western arget for ten years - is
            planning some new outrage for his new host paymaster:
            Saddam Hussein.

            In a career that spans over thirty years - and
            includes plotting the Munich massacre of Israel�s Olympic
            athletes - Abu Nidal and his small but ruthless
            organisation has killed or injured over 900 persons in over
            20 countries.

            His terrorist �CV� includes the Christmas massacre
            at Rome and Vienna airports in December 1985: the
            hi-jacking of the Pan Am flight in Karachi in 1986; the
            destruction of a ferry in Greece in 1988. Later there were
            the assassinations of the PLO deputy chief, Abu Iyad, and
            Yasser Arafat�s security chief, Abu Hul in January 1991.

            Nidal�s organisation, ANO, has operated under a
            number of other names; including Black September and the
            Revolutionary Organisation of Socialist Muslims.

            Dr Jerrold Post, an American ranking expert on Abu
            Nidal, says: �he remains a significant threat. In
            comparison, when it comes to terrorism, Osama bin Laden is
            still in the learning stage.�

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          • JIM RAAT
            You know guys what I don t understand is why so many make a big deal of Gore. Maybe he went as a journalist but at least he went. He did the job he was
            Message 5 of 7 , May 1, 2002
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              You know guys what I don't understand is why so many
              make a big deal of Gore. Maybe he went as a journalist
              but at least he went. He did the job he was assigned
              what did Mr. President do? I believe he missed his
              reserve drills.
              --- wade james <jwade_85745@...> wrote:
              >
              > ABU NIDAL is the man that Ollie North mentioned in
              > his hearing on Capitol Hill. Absolutly not Bin
              > Laden.
              > Jim Wade
              >
              >
              > Tom Westhoven <rvn6869@...> wrote:
              > >
              > >
              > >Anyone remember this??
              > >> > It was 1987!
              > >> >
              > >> > At a lecture the other day they were playing an
              > old news video of Lt.
              > >>Col.Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra
              > hearings during the
              > Reagan
              > >>Administration. There was Ollie in front of God
              > and country getting the
              > >>third degree, but what he said was stunning!
              > >> >
              > >> > He was being drilled by some senator; "Did you
              > not recently spend close
              > >to
              > >>$60,000 for a home security system?"
              > >> >
              > >> > Ollie replied,"Yes, I did, Sir."
              > >> >
              > >> > The senator continued, trying to get a laugh
              > out of the audience,"
              > Isn't
              > >>that just a little excessive?"
              > >> >
              > >> > "No, sir," continued Ollie.
              > >> >
              > >> > "No? And why not?" the senator asked.
              > >> >
              > >> > "Because the lives of my family and I were
              > threatened, sir"
              > >> >
              > >> > "Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.
              > >> >
              > >> > "By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.
              > >> >
              > >> > "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly
              > scare you that much?"
              > >> >
              > >> > "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie
              > replied.
              > >> >
              > >> > At this point the senator tried to repeat the
              > name, but couldn't
              > >>pronounce it, which most people back then probably
              > couldn't. A couple of
              > >>people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator
              > continued. "Why are you
              > >so
              > >>afraid of this man?" the senator asked.
              > >> >
              > >> > "Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive
              > that I know of", Ollie
              > >>answered.
              > >> >
              > >> > "And what do you recommend we do about him?"
              > asked the senator.
              > >> >
              > >> > "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would
              > recommend that an assassin team
              > >>be formed to eliminate him and his men from the
              > face of the earth."
              > >> >
              > >> > The senator disagreed with this approach, and
              > that was all that was
              > >shown
              > >>of the clip.
              > >> >
              > >> > By the way, that senator was Al Gore.
              > >> >
              > >> > Unreal
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > So what the hell part of "shall not be infringed" do
              > you not understand ???
              >
              > "The Government of the People, For the People" !!
              > Has now become the Enemy of the People, Against the
              > People !!!!
              >
              >
              >
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            • Kenneth J Wiater Jr
              Laws are #&%##$% !! Town OKs, then rejects, shed Friday, May 3, 2002 By Karen Nugent Telegram & Gazette Staff CLINTON-- A disabled Vietnam War veteran has
              Message 6 of 7 , May 3, 2002
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                Laws are" #&%##$%" !!

                Town OKs, then rejects, shed
                Friday, May 3, 2002
                By Karen Nugent
                Telegram & Gazette Staff

                CLINTON-- A disabled Vietnam War veteran has asked the selectmen for town money to tear down a structure he built two years ago, after he was granted a building permit from the town's building inspector.
                The structure -- a shed sitting on top of a garage -- was subsequently deemed illegal by the Clinton Zoning Board of Appeals and a Superior Court judge, and the permit was revoked.
                Lloyd N. Stevenson, 73, of 352 Sterling St., will now have to demolish the shed.
                He went before the selectmen last night with his lawyer, Edward M. Sheridan of Clinton, to ask the town to pay for the demolition.
                Mr. Sheridan explained that although Mr. Stevenson was granted a permit for the �addition to his garage� by Building Inspector Thomas F.J. Dillon, the Zoning Board and the court decided otherwise.
                A group of neighbors complained to the Zoning Board that the structure is an eyesore that blocks views. They also claimed it is actually a workshop, and they feared accidental fires from flammables stored there.
                After the permit was revoked, Mr. Stevenson, rather than tear the structure down, sued the town and lost.
                Mr. Sheridan said the shed cost �thousands� to build, and, according to one estimate, will cost between $10,000 and $12,000 to remove.
                He said Mr. Stevenson was given 30 days by the court to get a permit to demolish the shed, and 90 days after that to tear it down.
                �I think there is some liability to the town, morally if not legally,� Mr. Sheridan said. �Mr. Stevenson is a 100 percent disabled Vietnam veteran. He is not in good health, and he is on a fixed income. He's really getting the short end of the stick here. Mr. Stevenson is only looking for assistance to comply with the court order.�
                Making no promises, the selectmen decided to get three estimates for demolishing the addition. Donald A. Lowe, director of the Clinton Community Economic Development Office, said while a state grant for demolishing blighted property cannot be used, there is about $15,000 left in a town account used for demolition.
                After Mr. Lowe spoke, Police Chief Mark R. Laverdure, who is a member of the town's Law Committee, stood up and said the committee was willing to settle with Mr. Stevenson, but the offer was turned down.
                �He rolled his dice, and he went to court. In my opinion, he should get zero,� Chief Laverdure said, noting that Mr. Stevenson wanted a large amount of money.
                Mr. Stevenson told the selectmen he was told five times by Mr. Dillon that the addition met the building code.
                �This is really stupid,� he said.
                Selectman Mark S. Elworthy, the chairman, said the request may be considered by the board, but �that doesn't mean we're going to do it.� A few minutes later, he said, �a mistake was made.�
                �We're not saying 'no' tonight,� Mr. Elworthy said.
                Selectman Mary Rose Dickhaut said she was wary about exploring estimates, and she is unsure whether she would vote to give Mr. Stevenson any town money.
                Selectman Marc S. Iacobucci disagreed.
                �The town made a mistake,� he said.









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