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RE: [veiktiplaciau] Nesusivedima i, aplinkos, kūryba, gerumas

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  • Virmantas Galdikas
    Labas, Andriau, Jei jau apie paradoksus kalbi, tai prieš tai reikia išsiaiškinti ar viskas yra paradoksai. Gali būti, kad skiriasi todėl, kad skirtingai
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      Labas, Andriau,

       

      Jei jau apie paradoksus kalbi, tai prieš tai reikia išsiaiškinti ar viskas yra paradoksai. Gali būti, kad skiriasi todėl, kad skirtingai suvokiamos sąvokos, t.y. sąvokos ir suvokimo problema. Kiekvienas žmogus gali suvokti tas pačias sąvokas skirtingai ir tada gaunasi paradoksas.

       

      Dar vienas suvokimo dalykas. Visuomenėje žmonės, kurdami valstybę, deleguoja kitiems žmonėms tam tikras funkcijas, ir tikisi, kad jie su tomis funkcijomis, pareigomis prisiims taipogi ir iniciatyvą. Tačiau taip neatsitinka. Tada žmonės nusivilia ir sako, kad išrinktieji nepatenkino jų lūkesčių. O iš tikrųjų jie per savo tingėjimą, nerodo iniciatyvos, nedaro atitinkamų veiksmų ir todėl niekas nevyksta, nes paprasčiausiai išrinkti žmonės nežino ir negali žinoti kas vyksta jūsų galvose kol jūs jiems to nepasakysite.

       

      Todėl sveikinu su iniciatyva ir galvojant apie turinį ir išraišką. Nepamiršk apgalvoti kokias sąvokas naudoji, kaip jas suvoki tu ir aplinkiniai. Bei tai, ar tu kartai nepastebėjai to fakto, kad delegavai kam nors kitam savo funkcijas, kurias pats turėtum vykdyti. Tai gali būti žmogus ar bet koks kitas įsivaizduojamas subjektas.

       

      Matai, dabar aš labai gilinuosi į sąvokų ir suvokimo bei žmogaus susidvejinimo arba funkcijų delegavimo problematiką. Tai man davė naujų minčių ir argumentų paaiškinti šiandien vykstančių procesų esmei, jų priežastims ir pasekmėms.

       

      Pagarbiai,

      Virmantas

       

      From: veiktiplaciau@yahoogroups.com [mailto:veiktiplaciau@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ms@...
      Sent: 2012 m. vasario 4 d. 08:57
      To: veiktiplaciau@yahoogroups.com; zmoniskai@yahoogroups.com
      Cc: minciu_sodas_LT@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [veiktiplaciau] Nesusivedimai, aplinkos, kūryba, gerumas

       

       

      Sveiki!

      Įsisuku į kūrybinę veiklą su kitais.

      Įkėliau jau pora rodelių, filmukų http://www.ms.lt/tv/ kaip ruošiuos meno
      parodai čia Čikagoje. Aprėpsiu visa ką savo gyvenime išmąsčiau. Paroda
      vyks balandžio mėn. 1 d., Verbų sekmadienį, o tuo pačiu ir Užupio
      nepriklausomybės dieną, kurią švęsime.

      Sukūriau filmuką apie "nesusivedimus", tai yra, paradoksus. Juos rūšiuoju.
      * Visumos savybės gali skirtis nuo dalių savybių.
      * Prieštaravimas gali būti dalinio pobūdžio.
      * Aprašymas gali suvaržyti laisvę.
      * Dėmesys iškreipia vaizdą.
      * Teiginys gali save paneigti.
      * Apibrėžimas nepakankamai išbaigtas; arba niekinis, be pavyzdžių.
      Žodžiu, tai keli žingsniai link jų rūšiavimo. Prie to dirbu va čia:
      http://www.ms.lt/sodas/Mintys/Paradoksai

      Dabar kuriu filmuką apie "aplinkas". Klausimas veikia kaip "egzistencinė"
      aplinka. O kūryba patys įtakojame savo aplinką, tad ir save.

      Donatas Anušauskas nufilmavo teniso kamuolį plūduriuojantį užtvankoje.
      Tai mane įkvėpė pafilmuoti mokykloje, kur dirbu, mat juos užmauna ant
      kėdžių kojų, kad nesusibraižytų medinės grindys. Kviečiu, kas turi teniso
      ar kitokių kamuolių, prisijungti filmukais ar nuotraukomis ir kaip nors
      įtrauksime.

      Pridedu susirašinėjimą anglų kalba su filosofijos profesoriumi Bob
      Lichtenbert. Jis Čikagoje vadovauja Ieškotojų klubui. Jis klausia, "Kaip
      daugiausia gero nuveikti?"

      Renku mūsų klausimus, kuriuos puoselėjame. Kviečiu į bendrą kūrybą
      filmukais, nuotraukomis, dainomis ir mintimis.

      Andrius

      Andrius Kulikauskas
      ms@...
      http://www.ms.lt/sodas/

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      Bob,

      I'm glad to think that you are in good health and good spirits, all things
      considered! I pray for you.

      Your question is or can be very central. So I hope we keep returning to
      it. Indeed, if you allow, I would include it among people's questions
      that I'm keeping in heart and mind as I work on my art show, which will be
      in April at the South Side Community Art Center in Bronzeville. Some
      other questions include:
      * Rimas Morkunas: What mechanism rules this world?
      * Audrone Anusauskiene: How can God create a seed which may lie dormant
      and then spring to life in particular circumstances?
      * Donatas Anusauskas: What do women want?
      * Nashawne Ball: Why are systems designed for things to go wrong?
      (Nashawne is my math student and we'll try to relate that to math).
      * Virmantas Galdikas: How to express in words and images so that the
      widest variety of people might understand that not others are at fault,
      but that evil is found in the selfishness of each and every one of us,
      which is a natural, undeleteable and necessary factor of life?
      * Mario Torres: How is God going to finish his work (end the world)?
      Note that these questions turn to be related. I suppose my own question is:
      * Andrius Kulikauskas: How to pull together, flesh out and share all that
      I have learned and all there is to know about everything, but especially,
      God's point of view?
      That's the subject of my art show! Our questions are a big help because
      they challenge me, inspire me and serve as personally relevant reference
      points, both experiencing them existentially and sharing them creatively.

      Bob, thank you for your great answers to my questions. I'll add another
      question to you:
      * Why do you care to do the most good?

      I tackled this as a six-year old. I realized that I was very happy,
      blessed by loving parents and a utopian way-of-life growing up in Southern
      California. I enjoyed an astounding mind. And I had a good seed, a
      benevolent character. I understood that I would always be happy, but that
      none of this was my own doing. I could have been born in Cambodia and
      left to die. So my gifts were not meant to serve me, but to serve all
      people. What would the starving African children or Cambodian children
      want me to do?

      I note that a question can serve as "mental surroundings". Each week, as
      I prepare for my art show, I'm making a video (in Lithuanian) of how I'm
      making progress, and in doing so, I'm interacting with others creatively,
      inspired as well by our questions. http://www.ms.lt/tv/ So this week's
      theme is "surroundings". I note how much context a question can
      introduce. In that sense, questions are "existential". They capture our
      existence as a conceptual context that we experience (phenomenologically)
      and may address (structurally). And, as we see above, our questions can
      relate us and we can relate our questions, which indeed encourages us that
      we can "know everything", know the full sweep of the questions we may take
      up.

      Indeed, as I've been modeling God's mind as a room in the gallery, I've
      noticed that one wall, into which everything resolves, will be a system of
      12 questions:
      A starting point:
      * What do I truly wish for?
      Which expands as four levels:
      * Whether, What, How and Why we Care?
      Pairs of levels make for six doubts addressed by counterquestions:
      * Do I truly like this? How does it seem to me?
      * Do I truly need this? What else should I be doing?
      * Is this truly real? Would it make any difference?
      * Is this truly problematic? What do I have control over?
      * Is this truly reasonable? Am I able to consider the question?
      * Is this truly wrong? Is this the way things should be?
      All leading up to a question:
      * Am I doing anything about this?

      So there is a finite system of ideal questions that express our intellect
      which I may portray as a glass cage from within which we may live. But
      there is also a vast field of questions as each of us above is taking up
      personally, which is related.

      Anyways, as a child with boundless ambition, I realized that in the big
      scheme of things, conquering, discovering, inventing, ruling all had their
      limits, and to truly stand out, I would have to have ambition on a higher
      level.

      I also realized that, say, if I chose to be a doctor, I might be able to
      prolong my life endlessly, but that this would be a very sketchy pursuit
      because, honestly, God can have me hit by a truck at any moment. So if I
      have divine ambition, I should hope that it will please God and I might as
      well depend on him, or at least on his benevolence, because otherwise I'm
      doomed. So having extreme talents, I should take extreme risks and get to
      the heart of the matter.

      I thus resolved to "know everything ...and apply that knowledge usefully".
      I thought that knowing everything would allow me to do anything, and at
      the least, would let me know what I should do, as you are asking.

      Next, I made a plan for self-education. I thought I should focus on
      reading quicker and quicker, writing longer and longer, and doing as much
      math as I could get my hands on. As for subjects, I thought I should
      start with history, with what is already known, and start from the
      beginning, and learn it all. I was amazed and disappointed that there
      were no books on Mesopotamian history. So I settled for Egyptian history
      and at the age of six I wrote a 28 page report based on three books. The
      next year I wrote a 50 page report on insects, read an 800 page college
      anthology on "African Cultures and Civilizations" and so on. All of this
      of my own volition.

      All throughout, I realized that I needed to be of extreme integrity and an
      absolutely good person, caring of others, and ever appreciative of us all
      as equals. Sometimes I think of each of us as different variations of
      God's chess game, with Jesus being the winning line that actually gets
      played, but with every possible line bearing on the course of the game.
      We're each hypothetical Jesus's who went more or less off-course in ways
      that may or may not be relevant.

      I've also been in touch with God, who I addressed as that six-year old,
      because I saw how I would need to think freely, allow that God may or may
      not exist, and so venture into very dangerous territory. And so I offered
      God a deal: Let me think freely, whatever I need to, in my quest to know
      everything, and apply that knowledge usefully, and I will always believe
      in you, regardless of what I come to know or think. We can say, I sold my
      soul to God. And built in that "apply knowledge usefully" is the
      assumption that at heart we are all equal, in some fundamental sense,
      identical.

      That is the tension in my life, that I was pulled by extreme circumstances
      but also by a fundamental belief in our interchangeability. I'm just
      doing what I should as the person-in-general who ended up in these
      particular circumstances with these blessings.

      I share my story wondering if it is all of our story, or potentially, just
      as "falling in love" is a story that we may not all quite experience
      fully, but yet we wish to think that we all could. If not in this world,
      then in a subsequent one.

      I'm trying to do in this world what might typically belong in a subsequent
      world. I'm trying to build bridges between these two worlds and make them
      seemless. I do feel that I live as if I was eternal, but with an
      intensity of living that here and now.

      So, of course, ever fostering my self-discipline to not have or watch
      television. Currently, I'm trying to move away from Google News or NPR /
      Fresh Air and instead read Google News in Spanish, say, or listen to more
      educational videos in Math, etc. It's an ongoing process.

      I think having extreme, divine ambition makes it seem silly to just "do
      more good" as if it was accumulating points. Quality trumps quantity.
      Jesus healed hundreds, maybe thousands, but his divine integrity impacted
      billions of people on a much deeper level, and shaped our world. Millions
      of us likewise participate through our integrity in that impacting and
      shaping, although we are unseen. Bob, you and your Seekers impact me, at
      least a bit, and that counts for a lot. Maybe we'll impact somebody who
      impacts many more, or much more deeply or vividly. That's how God
      operates, so that nobody in particular can claim the credit, and so the
      glory goes to God.

      So another question is:
      * What is good? and who defines it?

      Myself, as a puny human, I believe that it is good for knowledge to be
      tangible, to be accessible, so that we don't have to believe, or rather,
      we can take leaps of faith that are as small as we like. That's what I
      think Jesus meant by the "poor-in-spirit". The "rich-in-spirit" are the
      martyrs, who are willing to say "I believe" and follow blindly. But the
      "poor-in-spirit" are the skeptical, the minimalists, the near-sighted like
      me, who want each step to be evident, like rocks for crossing a river. I
      think that is Jesus' preferred vision which his Father overruled, so that
      rather than have Jesus be accepted alive (as some did), they got to accept
      him dead ("good news" for the wicked). OK, if that's what it takes, but
      I'd prefer to go back to what Jesus was doing.

      And that's about establishing a culture of learning, growing, living
      forever, here and now. The activity of an eternal life on this transitory
      earth.

      Since 1996, in developing "good will exercises" by which we might follow
      the truth of the heart rather than the truth of the world, and then
      through Minciu Sodas, organizing independent thinkers, I've basically
      worked towards such a culture. In a small way, we succeeded, and our
      Pyramid of Peace in Kenya in 2008, http://www.pyramidofpeace.net was a
      very meaningful but fleeting example. In general, we weren't there for
      each other sufficiently for me to spark a viable business, one that could
      pay a modest wage and recover my debts that I incurred.

      Reflecting on that, and starting fresh, I realized that I should be
      self-centered and focus completely on my own quests, which I had never
      neglected, but yet I had always tried to make Minciu Sodas work by serving
      others, and yet I believe that my own quests are most important and I
      myself am most dedicated.

      I realized that God's point of view was relevant to all of the structures
      that I had documented in studying the conceptual limits of our mind. God
      had always been there for me, I had a ever warmer love for him. And I
      concluded that the reason that I lived on the edge in so many ways that
      others didn't was because I always had safety in God. That's let me
      question my heart, or engage gangs or end up bankrupt. Others don't "buy
      that pearl" and treating each other as independent thinkers, of more or
      less maturity, yet ultimately equals, is too slow of a way for people to
      grow. The impetus to "grow up" is too weak.

      What drives me now is a very close collaboration with God, a deeply
      natural investigation of what is truly central in pulling everything
      together, and an unleashing of my creative potential. I'm discovering
      (tentatively, hopefully) that I might best engage others on a creative
      level, interacting towards a culture of creativity. I have content to
      give meaning to our creative energies, and can include us based on our
      questions, whatever we wish to explore, and which can inspire our
      creativity. I suppose and learn, writing to you, and thinking of my other
      co-creators, that "creation" is how we engage and shape our
      "surroundings". I've been discussing with Audrone Anusauskiene, and
      including God in that discussion, about how God's creation is a creation
      of freedom that creates both life and its surroundings on equal terms, or
      we may say, co-evolves them. The DNA in my heart and toe and brain are
      all the same! and those cells are more like your cells than they are like
      each other. So the DNA instruction is not more or less important than the
      variety of chemical baths that it gets placed in. (Although the latter may
      be harder to imagine.) Together they trigger the outcome. Love and life
      likewise complement each other.

      Donatas Anusauskas sent me video of a tennis ball floating in a gully.
      And so then I made a video of the bottoms of the chairs where I teach, as
      they are covered with tennis balls so they don't scratch the wooden
      floors. It turns out Mario Torres used to play tennis in a wheel chair
      and so I took some great video of him, he's an actor. And as he banged
      two tennis balls together and talked about the world ending in nuclear
      war, it seemed like those were planets in his hand. Or I rolled tennis
      balls down the stairs and they might be "ideas" of some sort. Or I
      videoed Zenonas Anusauskas through Skype and he pretended to catch and
      throw. But this shows that our creative unconscious may help us think in
      terms of our surroundings. I'm writing a novel in Lithuanian about two
      students who switch their surroundings. As if a person may be identified
      with their circumstances. Anyways, maybe the most good you can do is to
      play, and then relate it back to what you care about, and support such a
      playful culture.

      In summary, how can a person do the most good? Answers include:
      * Appreciate the good you have received, the gifts from beyond you, the
      one who loves you more than you love yourself; recognize your God
      * Accept God's benevolence; don't worry about the wrong problems
      * Know everything; or simply, know absolutely, as best you can; and
      ultimately, know as your God knows
      * Take charge of your education
      * Hold yourself to the highest standard of integrity and goodness
      * Engage God, develop your relationship, your friendship
      * Invest yourself in God, be willing to go down with him in flames
      * Be true to yourself, your most basic beliefs, and shine
      * Foster your self-discipline
      * Work on small, practical problems, help others, learn rapidly
      * Be excellent and let God and others worry about magnifying or scaling
      * Live on the edge, or close to it, get comfortable there
      * Appreciate our human condition as a guide to what we can wish for, above
      and beyond what God wishes for, which is thus especially meaningful
      * Play creatively with others
      * Be sensitive and responsive to others' needs
      * Be personal
      * Be a leader and so open up opportunity for others
      * Work towards a culture that bridges this world with the one beyond

      It's very freeing to get to know others who are less fortunate and learn
      how difficult or ineffective or hopeless it is to help them, but also, how
      often they don't necessarily need that much, maybe simply moral support.
      I feel it's important to help in small ways, but because I do, and because
      I have, and because I'm aware of what it means to live in different
      standards of living, I know that the abstract questions that I'm working
      on are indeed what I should focus on. I suppose likewise in your case,
      too. Your work with Seekers is very important and I think fruitful, too.

      I'm growing stronger and I'm inclined to be more personal than I was in
      Minciu Sodas. Your letter was very personal and allowed me to be
      likewise.

      Bob, you're a leader and that opens up opportunity for others. That's
      very important, to allow others to integrate around you, and build on your
      work in their own way, even as you do what you yourself need to do. I
      struggle with that.

      I think your work is also part of building those bridges with the ideals,
      the values, the activities that make sense in a world greater than this
      one. If we can simply interact with each other as such a culture, then we
      have done "enough" good.

      I sometimes feel sad that we're all like stars that are accelerating away
      from each other! and so a culture is impossible. But your letter makes me
      feel otherwise.

      Thank you!

      Andrius

      Andrius Kulikauskas
      ms@...
      http://www.selflearners.net
      (773) 306-3807

      ------------------------

      > Hi  again  Andrius,
      >
      >      Thanks  for  your  questions.  I  was  hoping  for  more  in   the 
      > way  of  answers.  You  yourself  have  done  much  good  in  your  life, 
      > especially   with  your  ingenious  saving  of   lives  in  Africa  in 
      > exchange  for  cell-phone  minutes.
      >
      >      But  I  will  try  to  answer  your  questions  for  now. 
      >
      >
      >      I  am   much  hoping  to  find  some  sort  of  answer.  Maybe  I 
      > am  looking  for  an  easy  way  to  do  a  lot.
      >
      >      So  far  I  have  mostly  worked  with  large  and  small  community 
      > organizations.  I  have  also  helped  out  one-on-one  in  such  areas 
      > as  tutoring  and  clean-ups  and  volunteers,  but  I  feel  rather 
      > limited  by  this   and  hope  to  do  more  good.   I   have  also 
      > tried  to  do  good  by  my  journal  on  the  meaning  of  life. 
      > However,  I  do  not  get  much  feedback  on  this  and  the  number  of 
      > my  subscribers  is  now  pitiful  after  once  being  high.
      >
      >
      >      The  results  have  been  mixed.  I  did  do  some  good  for  the 
      > area,  but  I  also  got  much  opposition,  much  of  it  needless  or 
      > due  to  my  inexperi- ence.  I  put  in  much  time  and  did  not  make 
      > a  big  difference.  However,  then  I  did  inspire  some  people  to 
      > become  active  in  their  communities  for  years.  
      >
      >      All  I  can  do  is  to  think  more  about  this  and  ask  others. 
      > So  far  both  have  been  dead-ends  for  the  last  few  years.
      >
      >      If  I  did find  some  answer,  I  would  be  overjoyed,  but  I 
      > would  immediately  try  to  think  of  ways  to  do  more  good  for 
      > others  for  their  sake.
      >
      >      After  two  heart  recent  surgeries,  I  am  recovering  nicely  at 
      > home  finally.  I  hope  all  is  well  with  you.
      >
      > Bob
      >
      >
      > ------------------------
      >
      > Bob,
      >
      > Thank you for your question.
      >
      > Do you intend to find an answer?
      > In your life, what tentative answer have you come up with so far?
      > How has that worked for you?
      > What is your plan for coming up with an answer?
      > What would you do if you had an answer?
      >
      > Andrius
      >
      ------------------------

      > Hi Andrius,
      >
      > Do you have any thoughts on how a person can do the most
      > good with their life?
      >
      > Existentially,
      > Bob
      >

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