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Think you can be a meat-eating environmentalist? Not this guy........

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  • greenvegn
    Hello All- In this article (linked below), an environmentalist finally grasps that you can t eat meat and call yourself an environmentalist. The author covers
    Message 1 of 4 , Feb 15 10:51 AM
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      Hello All-
      In this article (linked below), an environmentalist finally grasps
      that you can't eat meat and call yourself an environmentalist.

      The author covers a lot of ground- so to speak- like this:

      ".......free-range chickens have a 20% greater impact on global
      warming than intensively raised ones........" Remember this one when
      a meat-eater tells you "I only eat free range......"

      He asks:
      "So why aren't more people changing their diets? "

      In order for people to change their habits, he says, "It's got to be
      about morality, about right versus wrong."

      Worth the read:

      http://www.audubonmagazine.org/features0901/viewpoint.html
      Marcy
    • s.hala33
      ... when ... be ... I just read it. It s a good article. I ve always wondered how people can call themselves environmentalists and continue eating meat. I
      Message 2 of 4 , Feb 15 3:47 PM
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        --- In veganview@yahoogroups.com, "greenvegn" <imgreen07@...> wrote:
        >
        > Hello All-
        > In this article (linked below), an environmentalist finally grasps
        > that you can't eat meat and call yourself an environmentalist.
        >
        > The author covers a lot of ground- so to speak- like this:
        >
        > ".......free-range chickens have a 20% greater impact on global
        > warming than intensively raised ones........" Remember this one
        when
        > a meat-eater tells you "I only eat free range......"
        >
        > He asks:
        > "So why aren't more people changing their diets? "
        >
        > In order for people to change their habits, he says, "It's got to
        be
        > about morality, about right versus wrong."
        >
        > Worth the read:
        >
        > http://www.audubonmagazine.org/features0901/viewpoint.html
        > Marcy
        >

        I just read it. It's a good article. I've always wondered how people
        can call themselves environmentalists and continue eating meat. I
        study environmental engineering at uni & I've done my fair share of
        research too. (part of one of my umi reports below)

        1 dairy cow can produce over 23000L of waste water:

        Amount (L/cow/yr)
        Dung and urine 750
        Effluent-Pit & milk room 1840
        Effluent-Yard wash down 5840
        Uncontaminated water (coolers, roofs) 15400
        Total volume of annual effluent 23830

        ** figures are from ausralan dairy shed effluent managment guidlines.
      • connie
        ... I have seen many middle aged people( really woman) in my area who do not care one iota about the environment .. sad to say .. They worry about getting
        Message 3 of 4 , Feb 15 4:00 PM
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          --- In veganview@yahoogroups.com, "s.hala33" <s.hala33@...> wrote:
          >
          > --- In veganview@yahoogroups.com, "greenvegn" <imgreen07@> wrote:
          > >
          > > Hello All-
          > > In this article (linked below), an environmentalist finally grasps
          > > that you can't eat meat and call yourself an environmentalist.
          > >
          > > The author covers a lot of ground- so to speak- like this:
          > >
          > > ".......free-range chickens have a 20% greater impact on global
          > > warming than intensively raised ones........" Remember this one
          > when
          > > a meat-eater tells you "I only eat free range......"
          > >
          > > He asks:
          > > "So why aren't more people changing their diets? "
          > >
          > > In order for people to change their habits, he says, "It's got to
          > be
          > > about morality, about right versus wrong."
          > >
          > > Worth the read:
          > >
          > > http://www.audubonmagazine.org/features0901/viewpoint.html
          > > Marcy
          > >
          >
          > I just read it. It's a good article. I've always wondered how people
          > can call themselves environmentalists and continue eating meat. I
          > study environmental engineering at uni & I've done my fair share of
          > research too. (part of one of my umi reports below)
          >
          >
          >


          I have seen many middle aged people( really woman) in my area who do
          not care one iota about the environment .. sad to say ..

          They worry about getting their hair, nails and massage ..

          When I have tried to talk to them as soon as I mention global climate
          change or anything environmental they immediately change the subject ..

          The only way I have gotten them to change to CFB's is to tell them
          they will save money ..lol

          so I found since most are near my age or a bit older .. I can get
          through to them by talking about health .. That they do care about ! ..

          I have introduced hundreds to Vegan Meats , soy yogurts , etc etc ..

          I think you have to basically size up what it will take to persuade
          someone to do what is right .. because The ones I know here for the
          most part have no moral conscience .. and of course many of their
          illnesses have either improved or completely went away with the diet
          changes .. so it is a win/win ..


          CCShopgirl
        • s.hala33
          I guess your right. You just have to use a different technique for a different demographic. Some care about animal rights, some the environment & some about
          Message 4 of 4 , Feb 15 6:31 PM
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            I guess your right. You just have to use a different technique for a
            different demographic. Some care about animal rights, some the
            environment & some about their health. Good on ya for introducing and
            teaching so many women about veganism.
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