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  • danw2002
    AHH, thanks Brian, i had a feeling that they were close, but do not have a Cory yet. Do you know if any Dxx will work, i know they are different cup sizes, but
    Message 1 of 11 , Aug 1, 2011
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      AHH, thanks Brian, i had a feeling that they were close, but do not have a Cory yet. Do you know if any Dxx will work, i know they are different cup sizes, but the base and tube length seem to be the same, or am i off on that. Just waiting on my new seal, and then my sunbeam is ready to go, all clean and adjusted, now i can look for a cory top, as the sunbeam 'beehive' glass top is very hard to find. found a lid that fits the top vac pot part ,so i am ready to brew....let the burbles begin....

      --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Helfrich" <bhelfric@...> wrote:
      >
      > Believe it or not, the answer is "Yes, but . . ."
      >
      > I used a Sunbeam C30 bottom and a Cory DRU top with a Cory glass filter rod.
      >
      > The top doesn't snug fit on the Sunbeam bottom, it just sets on the top and
      > rests on the large top lip of the gasket. So you do have to be sure that
      > you have set the top evenly level on the bottom pot, since it can rock
      > enough to loose the seal. It also helps to hold the top down while water is
      > bubbling up from the bottom. Folks with gasket-less Cory pots are probably
      > used to that.
      >
      > The other issue to deal with is than the Sunbeam tops had a small hole near
      > the top of the tube that kept the water from going up to the top bowl until
      > the water is hot enough. So I waited until the bottom had the water boiling
      > before I put the top on. Folks with glass pots would be used to doing this
      > too.
      >
      > I didn't wait to see if the Sunbeam kicked down to low on it's own, I just
      > tripped it manually. The pot did keep a vacuum and it did suck the water
      > back down, as apposed to just draining back down.
      >
      > Brian
      >
      > --------------------------------------------------
    • Brian Helfrich
      I think all the wide mouth Cory gaskets are the same basic size. Some have fins on them and I think they seal better. The older ones I have without the
      Message 2 of 11 , Aug 2, 2011
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        I think all the wide mouth Cory gaskets are the same basic size. Some have
        "fins" on them and I think they seal better. The older ones I have without
        the fins are hard and can allow the pot to be pushed up by the steam
        pressure and you loose the seal.

        The Dayseal version doesn't have the fins. I bought one a while back but I
        haven't tried it yet.

        The gasket less Cory models have a different configuration. The top of the
        pot and a horizontal ring area on the bottom of the top bowl are ground very
        flat. I've been using one as my daily driver for years now. That's why I
        haven't gotten around to trying the new gasket. lol

        Brian



        --------------------------------------------------
        From: "danw2002" <dan.w@...>
        Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 1:44 AM
        To: <vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??

        > AHH, thanks Brian, i had a feeling that they were close, but do not have a
        > Cory yet. Do you know if any Dxx will work, i know they are different cup
        > sizes, but the base and tube length seem to be the same, or am i off on
        > that. Just waiting on my new seal, and then my sunbeam is ready to go,
        > all clean and adjusted, now i can look for a cory top, as the sunbeam
        > 'beehive' glass top is very hard to find. found a lid that fits the top
        > vac pot part ,so i am ready to brew....let the burbles begin....
        >
        > --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Helfrich"
        > <bhelfric@...> wrote:
        >>
        >> Believe it or not, the answer is "Yes, but . . ."
        >>
        >> I used a Sunbeam C30 bottom and a Cory DRU top with a Cory glass filter
        >> rod.
        >>
        >> The top doesn't snug fit on the Sunbeam bottom, it just sets on the top
        >> and
        >> rests on the large top lip of the gasket. So you do have to be sure that
        >> you have set the top evenly level on the bottom pot, since it can rock
        >> enough to loose the seal. It also helps to hold the top down while water
        >> is
        >> bubbling up from the bottom. Folks with gasket-less Cory pots are
        >> probably
        >> used to that.
        >>
        >> The other issue to deal with is than the Sunbeam tops had a small hole
        >> near
        >> the top of the tube that kept the water from going up to the top bowl
        >> until
        >> the water is hot enough. So I waited until the bottom had the water
        >> boiling
        >> before I put the top on. Folks with glass pots would be used to doing
        >> this
        >> too.
        >>
        >> I didn't wait to see if the Sunbeam kicked down to low on it's own, I
        >> just
        >> tripped it manually. The pot did keep a vacuum and it did suck the water
        >> back down, as apposed to just draining back down.
        >>
        >> Brian
        >>
        >> --------------------------------------------------
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > ------------------------------------
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
        >
        >
      • Larry Hollenberg
        Brian, Yes I have owned quite a few Cory Glass Seal pots, or gasket-less models if you wish. I noticed I think you mention that the cory top on the sunbeam
        Message 3 of 11 , Aug 2, 2011
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          Brian,
          Yes I have owned quite a few Cory Glass Seal pots, or gasket-less models if you wish. I noticed I think you mention that the cory top on the sunbeam could bounce and lose its vacuum. That is one flaw the glass pots have. I found that sitting a china coffee saucer on the top of the upper bowl worked well to keep the thing from bouncing. I liked it because it didn't require the touchy rubber seals as they could be. I have a cory now and was lucky to get an unused seal from a member, it has worked perfectly so far. I don't know if one day the heat will start to effect its ability to seal easily or not, but it seems something goes wrong with many older seals after a while.  I ran across a sort of odd shaped aluminum pot the other day with a nice metal filter system, the name of which  escapes me at the moment. I would have picked it up as it was reasonable except that the rubber was so shrunk and hard that the top just rocked on the lower pot and its
          chances of ever working were pretty slim. 
          Larry

          --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...> wrote:

          From: Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...>
          Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??
          To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 6:57 AM
















           









          I think all the wide mouth Cory gaskets are the same basic size. Some have

          "fins" on them and I think they seal better. The older ones I have without

          the fins are hard and can allow the pot to be pushed up by the steam

          pressure and you loose the seal.



          The Dayseal version doesn't have the fins. I bought one a while back but I

          haven't tried it yet.



          The gasket less Cory models have a different configuration. The top of the

          pot and a horizontal ring area on the bottom of the top bowl are ground very

          flat. I've been using one as my daily driver for years now. That's why I

          haven't gotten around to trying the new gasket. lol



          Brian



          --------------------------------------------------

          From: "danw2002" <dan.w@...>

          Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 1:44 AM

          To: <vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com>

          Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??



          > AHH, thanks Brian, i had a feeling that they were close, but do not have a

          > Cory yet. Do you know if any Dxx will work, i know they are different cup

          > sizes, but the base and tube length seem to be the same, or am i off on

          > that. Just waiting on my new seal, and then my sunbeam is ready to go,

          > all clean and adjusted, now i can look for a cory top, as the sunbeam

          > 'beehive' glass top is very hard to find. found a lid that fits the top

          > vac pot part ,so i am ready to brew....let the burbles begin....

          >

          > --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Helfrich"

          > <bhelfric@...> wrote:

          >>

          >> Believe it or not, the answer is "Yes, but . . ."

          >>

          >> I used a Sunbeam C30 bottom and a Cory DRU top with a Cory glass filter

          >> rod.

          >>

          >> The top doesn't snug fit on the Sunbeam bottom, it just sets on the top

          >> and

          >> rests on the large top lip of the gasket. So you do have to be sure that

          >> you have set the top evenly level on the bottom pot, since it can rock

          >> enough to loose the seal. It also helps to hold the top down while water

          >> is

          >> bubbling up from the bottom. Folks with gasket-less Cory pots are

          >> probably

          >> used to that.

          >>

          >> The other issue to deal with is than the Sunbeam tops had a small hole

          >> near

          >> the top of the tube that kept the water from going up to the top bowl

          >> until

          >> the water is hot enough. So I waited until the bottom had the water

          >> boiling

          >> before I put the top on. Folks with glass pots would be used to doing

          >> this

          >> too.

          >>

          >> I didn't wait to see if the Sunbeam kicked down to low on it's own, I

          >> just

          >> tripped it manually. The pot did keep a vacuum and it did suck the water

          >> back down, as apposed to just draining back down.

          >>

          >> Brian

          >>

          >> --------------------------------------------------

          >

          >

          >

          >

          > ------------------------------------

          >

          > Yahoo! Groups Links

          >

          >

          >

          >

























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        • Brian Helfrich
          Gee, I never considered it a flaw that you have to hold the top pot of a glass seal Cory down for a few seconds after putting it on the boiling water pot.
          Message 4 of 11 , Aug 3, 2011
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            Gee, I never considered it a flaw that you have to hold the top pot of a
            glass seal Cory down for a few seconds after putting it on the boiling water
            pot. It's been my experience that by the time the top bowl is half full of
            water there is enough weight to keep the pot from bouncing. I'm right there
            anyway because I like to stir the coffee grounds to break up any clumps that
            haven't gotten wet yet.

            Brian

            --------------------------------------------------
            From: "Larry Hollenberg" <larryhollenb@...>
            Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:35 AM
            To: <vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com>
            Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??

            > Brian,
            > Yes I have owned quite a few Cory Glass Seal pots, or gasket-less models
            > if you wish. I noticed I think you mention that the cory top on the
            > sunbeam could bounce and lose its vacuum. That is one flaw the glass pots
            > have. I found that sitting a china coffee saucer on the top of the upper
            > bowl worked well to keep the thing from bouncing. I liked it because it
            > didn't require the touchy rubber seals as they could be. I have a cory now
            > and was lucky to get an unused seal from a member, it has worked perfectly
            > so far. I don't know if one day the heat will start to effect its ability
            > to seal easily or not, but it seems something goes wrong with many older
            > seals after a while. I ran across a sort of odd shaped aluminum pot the
            > other day with a nice metal filter system, the name of which escapes me
            > at the moment. I would have picked it up as it was reasonable except that
            > the rubber was so shrunk and hard that the top just rocked on the lower
            > pot and its
            > chances of ever working were pretty slim.
            > Larry
            >
            > --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...> wrote:
            >
            > From: Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...>
            > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??
            > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 6:57 AM
            >
            >
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            >
            > I think all the wide mouth Cory gaskets are the same basic size.
            > Some have
            >
            > "fins" on them and I think they seal better. The older ones I have
            > without
            >
            > the fins are hard and can allow the pot to be pushed up by the steam
            >
            > pressure and you loose the seal.
            >
            >
            >
            > The Dayseal version doesn't have the fins. I bought one a while back but
            > I
            >
            > haven't tried it yet.
            >
            >
            >
            > The gasket less Cory models have a different configuration. The top of
            > the
            >
            > pot and a horizontal ring area on the bottom of the top bowl are ground
            > very
            >
            > flat. I've been using one as my daily driver for years now. That's why I
            >
            > haven't gotten around to trying the new gasket. lol
            >
            >
            >
            > Brian
            >
            >
            >
            > --------------------------------------------------
            >
            > From: "danw2002" <dan.w@...>
            >
            > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 1:44 AM
            >
            > To: <vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com>
            >
            > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??
            >
            >
            >
            >> AHH, thanks Brian, i had a feeling that they were close, but do not have
            >> a
            >
            >> Cory yet. Do you know if any Dxx will work, i know they are different cup
            >
            >> sizes, but the base and tube length seem to be the same, or am i off on
            >
            >> that. Just waiting on my new seal, and then my sunbeam is ready to go,
            >
            >> all clean and adjusted, now i can look for a cory top, as the sunbeam
            >
            >> 'beehive' glass top is very hard to find. found a lid that fits the top
            >
            >> vac pot part ,so i am ready to brew....let the burbles begin....
            >
            >>
            >
            >> --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Helfrich"
            >
            >> <bhelfric@...> wrote:
            >
            >>>
            >
            >>> Believe it or not, the answer is "Yes, but . . ."
            >
            >>>
            >
            >>> I used a Sunbeam C30 bottom and a Cory DRU top with a Cory glass filter
            >
            >>> rod.
            >
            >>>
            >
            >>> The top doesn't snug fit on the Sunbeam bottom, it just sets on the top
            >
            >>> and
            >
            >>> rests on the large top lip of the gasket. So you do have to be sure
            >>> that
            >
            >>> you have set the top evenly level on the bottom pot, since it can rock
            >
            >>> enough to loose the seal. It also helps to hold the top down while
            >>> water
            >
            >>> is
            >
            >>> bubbling up from the bottom. Folks with gasket-less Cory pots are
            >
            >>> probably
            >
            >>> used to that.
            >
            >>>
            >
            >>> The other issue to deal with is than the Sunbeam tops had a small hole
            >
            >>> near
            >
            >>> the top of the tube that kept the water from going up to the top bowl
            >
            >>> until
            >
            >>> the water is hot enough. So I waited until the bottom had the water
            >
            >>> boiling
            >
            >>> before I put the top on. Folks with glass pots would be used to doing
            >
            >>> this
            >
            >>> too.
            >
            >>>
            >
            >>> I didn't wait to see if the Sunbeam kicked down to low on it's own, I
            >
            >>> just
            >
            >>> tripped it manually. The pot did keep a vacuum and it did suck the
            >>> water
            >
            >>> back down, as apposed to just draining back down.
            >
            >>>
            >
            >>> Brian
            >
            >>>
            >
            >>> --------------------------------------------------
            >
            >>
            >
            >>
            >
            >>
            >
            >>
            >
            >> ------------------------------------
            >
            >>
            >
            >> Yahoo! Groups Links
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          • Larry Hollenberg
            I guess its not  a flaw. But under some conditions until the water reaches the level to hold the top in place it wants often to bounce around and I have had
            Message 5 of 11 , Aug 3, 2011
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              I guess its not  a flaw. But under some conditions until the water reaches the level to hold the top in place it wants often to bounce around and I have had it to break the vacuum when it did.  Other wise they are a great way to avoid gasket issues. 
              Larry

              --- On Wed, 8/3/11, Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...> wrote:

              From: Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...>
              Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??
              To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 12:57 PM
















               









              Gee, I never considered it a flaw that you have to hold the top pot of a

              glass seal Cory down for a few seconds after putting it on the boiling water

              pot. It's been my experience that by the time the top bowl is half full of

              water there is enough weight to keep the pot from bouncing. I'm right there

              anyway because I like to stir the coffee grounds to break up any clumps that

              haven't gotten wet yet.



              Brian



              --------------------------------------------------

              From: "Larry Hollenberg" <larryhollenb@...>

              Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 8:35 AM

              To: <vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com>

              Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??



              > Brian,

              > Yes I have owned quite a few Cory Glass Seal pots, or gasket-less models

              > if you wish. I noticed I think you mention that the cory top on the

              > sunbeam could bounce and lose its vacuum. That is one flaw the glass pots

              > have. I found that sitting a china coffee saucer on the top of the upper

              > bowl worked well to keep the thing from bouncing. I liked it because it

              > didn't require the touchy rubber seals as they could be. I have a cory now

              > and was lucky to get an unused seal from a member, it has worked perfectly

              > so far. I don't know if one day the heat will start to effect its ability

              > to seal easily or not, but it seems something goes wrong with many older

              > seals after a while. I ran across a sort of odd shaped aluminum pot the

              > other day with a nice metal filter system, the name of which escapes me

              > at the moment. I would have picked it up as it was reasonable except that

              > the rubber was so shrunk and hard that the top just rocked on the lower

              > pot and its

              > chances of ever working were pretty slim.

              > Larry

              >

              > --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...> wrote:

              >

              > From: Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...>

              > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??

              > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com

              > Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2011, 6:57 AM

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              >

              > I think all the wide mouth Cory gaskets are the same basic size.

              > Some have

              >

              > "fins" on them and I think they seal better. The older ones I have

              > without

              >

              > the fins are hard and can allow the pot to be pushed up by the steam

              >

              > pressure and you loose the seal.

              >

              >

              >

              > The Dayseal version doesn't have the fins. I bought one a while back but

              > I

              >

              > haven't tried it yet.

              >

              >

              >

              > The gasket less Cory models have a different configuration. The top of

              > the

              >

              > pot and a horizontal ring area on the bottom of the top bowl are ground

              > very

              >

              > flat. I've been using one as my daily driver for years now. That's why I

              >

              > haven't gotten around to trying the new gasket. lol

              >

              >

              >

              > Brian

              >

              >

              >

              > --------------------------------------------------

              >

              > From: "danw2002" <dan.w@...>

              >

              > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 1:44 AM

              >

              > To: <vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com>

              >

              > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??

              >

              >

              >

              >> AHH, thanks Brian, i had a feeling that they were close, but do not have

              >> a

              >

              >> Cory yet. Do you know if any Dxx will work, i know they are different cup

              >

              >> sizes, but the base and tube length seem to be the same, or am i off on

              >

              >> that. Just waiting on my new seal, and then my sunbeam is ready to go,

              >

              >> all clean and adjusted, now i can look for a cory top, as the sunbeam

              >

              >> 'beehive' glass top is very hard to find. found a lid that fits the top

              >

              >> vac pot part ,so i am ready to brew....let the burbles begin....

              >

              >>

              >

              >> --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Helfrich"

              >

              >> <bhelfric@...> wrote:

              >

              >>>

              >

              >>> Believe it or not, the answer is "Yes, but . . ."

              >

              >>>

              >

              >>> I used a Sunbeam C30 bottom and a Cory DRU top with a Cory glass filter

              >

              >>> rod.

              >

              >>>

              >

              >>> The top doesn't snug fit on the Sunbeam bottom, it just sets on the top

              >

              >>> and

              >

              >>> rests on the large top lip of the gasket. So you do have to be sure

              >>> that

              >

              >>> you have set the top evenly level on the bottom pot, since it can rock

              >

              >>> enough to loose the seal. It also helps to hold the top down while

              >>> water

              >

              >>> is

              >

              >>> bubbling up from the bottom. Folks with gasket-less Cory pots are

              >

              >>> probably

              >

              >>> used to that.

              >

              >>>

              >

              >>> The other issue to deal with is than the Sunbeam tops had a small hole

              >

              >>> near

              >

              >>> the top of the tube that kept the water from going up to the top bowl

              >

              >>> until

              >

              >>> the water is hot enough. So I waited until the bottom had the water

              >

              >>> boiling

              >

              >>> before I put the top on. Folks with glass pots would be used to doing

              >

              >>> this

              >

              >>> too.

              >

              >>>

              >

              >>> I didn't wait to see if the Sunbeam kicked down to low on it's own, I

              >

              >>> just

              >

              >>> tripped it manually. The pot did keep a vacuum and it did suck the

              >>> water

              >

              >>> back down, as apposed to just draining back down.

              >

              >>>

              >

              >>> Brian

              >

              >>>

              >

              >>> --------------------------------------------------

              >

              >>

              >

              >>

              >

              >>

              >

              >>

              >

              >> ------------------------------------

              >

              >>

              >

              >> Yahoo! Groups Links

              >

              >>

              >

              >>

              >

              >>

              >

              >>

              >

              >

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              >

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              >

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            • Brian Helfrich
              Ah yes . . . If a glass seal Cory top slides/bounces sideways enough it can break the vacuum because the central funnel of the top pot will climb up a bit on
              Message 6 of 11 , Aug 3, 2011
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                Ah yes . . . If a glass seal Cory top slides/bounces sideways enough it can
                break the vacuum because the central funnel of the top pot will climb up a
                bit on the rim of the lower pot and sometimes it won't slide back down all
                the way.

                Brian


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                From: "Larry Hollenberg" <larryhollenb@...>
                Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:31 PM
                To: <vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com>
                Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??

                > I guess its not a flaw. But under some conditions until the water reaches
                > the level to hold the top in place it wants often to bounce around and I
                > have had it to break the vacuum when it did. Other wise they are a great
                > way to avoid gasket issues.
                > Larry
                >
                > --- On Wed, 8/3/11, Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...> wrote:
                >
                > From: Brian Helfrich <bhelfric@...>
                > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Cory glass top on sunbeam coffeemaster bottom??
                > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                > Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 12:57 PM
                >
                >
                > Gee, I never considered it a flaw that you have to hold the top pot
                > of a
                >
                > glass seal Cory down for a few seconds after putting it on the boiling
                > water
                >
                > pot. It's been my experience that by the time the top bowl is half full
                > of
                >
                > water there is enough weight to keep the pot from bouncing. I'm right
                > there
                >
                > anyway because I like to stir the coffee grounds to break up any clumps
                > that
                >
                > haven't gotten wet yet.
                >
                >
                >
                > Brian
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