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  • roddey99
    My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot
    Message 1 of 18 , Mar 23, 2010
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      My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?
      Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney
    • Larry Hollenberg
      Rod, Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time.  I had some luck using a wide
      Message 2 of 18 , Mar 24, 2010
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        Rod,
        Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time.  I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin.  It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it.  As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I  personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time.  The only real cure is to find a better working seal.  Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
        seals due to age.  Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method. 
        Larry

        --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@...> wrote:

        From: roddey99 <roddey99@...>
        Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
        To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM
















         









        My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?

        Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney






























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      • Rod
        Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and
        Message 3 of 18 , Mar 24, 2010
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          Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.
          Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Larry Hollenberg
          To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM
          Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



          Rod,
          Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
          seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.
          Larry

          --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@...> wrote:

          From: roddey99 <roddey99@...>
          Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
          To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM



          My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?

          Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney

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        • Rod
          ... From: Rod To: Rod Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold
          Message 4 of 18 , Mar 24, 2010
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            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Rod
            To: Rod
            Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM
            Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal


            I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Rod
            To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM
            Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal


            Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.
            Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Larry Hollenberg
            To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM
            Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



            Rod,
            Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
            seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.
            Larry

            --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@...> wrote:

            From: roddey99 <roddey99@...>
            Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
            To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM



            My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?

            Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney

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          • Peter Mumford
            Hey Rod, Just ran into this product. Haven t tried it but it does sound promising. At least it s soy-based and not a petroleum product. I m guessing that may
            Message 5 of 18 , Mar 25, 2010
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              Hey Rod,

              Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.

              http://carolinagreen.com/ecomm/proddetail.asp?prod=10006

              Peter

              --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@...> wrote:

              From: Rod <roddey99@...>
              Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
              To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM







               











              ----- Original Message -----

              From: Rod

              To: Rod

              Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM

              Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



              I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney

              ----- Original Message -----

              From: Rod

              To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

              Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM

              Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



              Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.

              Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney

              ----- Original Message -----

              From: Larry Hollenberg

              To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

              Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM

              Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



              Rod,

              Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty

              seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.

              Larry



              --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal. net> wrote:



              From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal. net>

              Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

              To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

              Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM



              My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?



              Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney



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            • Philip
              Thank you for your efforts Peter. I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product.
              Message 6 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                Thank you for your efforts Peter.

                I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:

                "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.
                Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."

                I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.

                Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)

                Philip


                --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@...> wrote:
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                > Hey Rod,
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                > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.
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                > http://carolinagreen.com/ecomm/proddetail.asp?prod=10006
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                > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@...> wrote:
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                > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
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                > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney
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                > From: Rod
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                > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
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                > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM
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                > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
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                > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.
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                > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
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                > From: Larry Hollenberg
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                > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
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                > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM
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                > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
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                > Rod,
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                > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
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              • Peter Mumford
                Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!! Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!! Another oh
                Message 7 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                  Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!

                  Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!

                  Another oh well...................

                  As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??

                  Peter

                  --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:

                  From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                  Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                  To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM







                   













                  Thank you for your efforts Peter.



                  I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:



                  "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.

                  Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."



                  I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.



                  Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)



                  Philip



                  --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@.. .> wrote:

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                  > Hey Rod,

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                  > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.

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                  > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006

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                  > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@.. .> wrote:

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                  > From: Rod <roddey99@.. .>

                  > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                  > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

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                  > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney

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                  > From: Rod

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                  > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

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                  > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM

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                  > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

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                  > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.

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                  > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney

                  >

                  > ----- Original Message -----

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                  > From: Larry Hollenberg

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                  > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

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                  > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM

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                  > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

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                  > Rod,

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                  > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty

                  >

                  > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.

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                  > Larry

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                • Rod
                  Hello everyone, I contacted the tech.support line of a company called Smooth-on which manufactures products for silicon mold making. The tech support person
                  Message 8 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                    Hello everyone,
                    I contacted the tech.support line of a company called Smooth-on which manufactures products for silicon mold making. The tech support person said he would help the community try to find the correct rubber and hardness of the rubber to use for new seals. I am going to mail him one of my extra Cory seals as it would be easier for him to make a determination wether it can be done.
                    On another call to a silicon mold making company, I was informed that the new formulations of rubber is not as good as they use to make. I was informed that I should not expect 50 years out of seals made this way, but should still last for multiple years, up to 10-15 years.
                    Anyone ever do this before I send the seal? Thank you, Rodney
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: Peter Mumford
                    To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM
                    Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



                    Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!

                    Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!

                    Another oh well...................

                    As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??

                    Peter

                    --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:

                    From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                    Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                    To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM



                    Thank you for your efforts Peter.

                    I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:

                    "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.

                    Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."

                    I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.

                    Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)

                    Philip

                    --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@.. .> wrote:

                    >

                    > Hey Rod,

                    >

                    > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.

                    >

                    > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006

                    >

                    > Peter

                    >

                    > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@.. .> wrote:

                    >

                    > From: Rod <roddey99@.. .>

                    > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                    > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                    > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM

                    >

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                    >

                    > ----- Original Message -----

                    >

                    > From: Rod

                    >

                    > To: Rod

                    >

                    > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM

                    >

                    > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                    >

                    >

                    >

                    > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney

                    >

                    > ----- Original Message -----

                    >

                    > From: Rod

                    >

                    > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                    >

                    > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM

                    >

                    > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                    >

                    >

                    >

                    > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.

                    >

                    > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney

                    >

                    > ----- Original Message -----

                    >

                    > From: Larry Hollenberg

                    >

                    > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                    >

                    > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM

                    >

                    > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                    >

                    >

                    >

                    > Rod,

                    >

                    > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty

                    >

                    > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.

                    >

                    > Larry

                    >

                    >

                    >

                    > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net> wrote:

                    >

                    >

                    >

                    > From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net>

                    >

                    > Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                    >

                    > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                    >

                    > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM

                    >

                    >

                    >

                    > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?

                    >

                    >

                    >

                    > Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney

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                  • Rod
                    On a side note, the tech support also said that they supply materials for collectors of antique cars, tractors, models, etc., who cant get parts like seals,
                    Message 9 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                      On a side note, the tech support also said that they supply materials for collectors of antique cars, tractors, models, etc., who cant get parts like seals, small rubber tires in models, train parts, etc. so they can make there own. So maybe it will work. Rodney
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: Peter Mumford
                      To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM
                      Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



                      Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!

                      Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!

                      Another oh well...................

                      As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??

                      Peter

                      --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:

                      From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                      Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                      To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM



                      Thank you for your efforts Peter.

                      I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:

                      "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.

                      Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."

                      I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.

                      Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)

                      Philip

                      --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@.. .> wrote:

                      >

                      > Hey Rod,

                      >

                      > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.

                      >

                      > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006

                      >

                      > Peter

                      >

                      > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@.. .> wrote:

                      >

                      > From: Rod <roddey99@.. .>

                      > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                      > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                      > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM

                      >

                      >

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                      > ----- Original Message -----

                      >

                      > From: Rod

                      >

                      > To: Rod

                      >

                      > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM

                      >

                      > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                      >

                      >

                      >

                      > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney

                      >

                      > ----- Original Message -----

                      >

                      > From: Rod

                      >

                      > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                      >

                      > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM

                      >

                      > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                      >

                      >

                      >

                      > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.

                      >

                      > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney

                      >

                      > ----- Original Message -----

                      >

                      > From: Larry Hollenberg

                      >

                      > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                      >

                      > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM

                      >

                      > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                      >

                      >

                      >

                      > Rod,

                      >

                      > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty

                      >

                      > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.

                      >

                      > Larry

                      >

                      >

                      >

                      > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net> wrote:

                      >

                      >

                      >

                      > From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net>

                      >

                      > Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                      >

                      > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                      >

                      > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM

                      >

                      >

                      >

                      > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?

                      >

                      >

                      >

                      > Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney

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                    • Rod
                      What I was going to do is buy the minimum I can, but it will probably be way more than I need, and if it works I would ask the community if they would want to
                      Message 10 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                        What I was going to do is buy the minimum I can, but it will probably be way more than I need, and if it works I would ask the community if they would want to buy whatever I have left and make ther own, then pass it on to the next person who needs seals. But I would make the initial investment and risk. Anyone interested? It might cost a few hundred dollars for the materials, I dont know yet. This is all conjecture at this point, but it may be a way to replace our old seals. For reference, I am ebay member roddey10 and have not had a negative strike in over 10 years. Rodney
                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: Peter Mumford
                        To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM
                        Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



                        Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!

                        Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!

                        Another oh well...................

                        As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??

                        Peter

                        --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:

                        From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                        Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                        To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM



                        Thank you for your efforts Peter.

                        I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:

                        "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.

                        Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."

                        I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.

                        Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)

                        Philip

                        --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@.. .> wrote:

                        >

                        > Hey Rod,

                        >

                        > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.

                        >

                        > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006

                        >

                        > Peter

                        >

                        > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@.. .> wrote:

                        >

                        > From: Rod <roddey99@.. .>

                        > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                        > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                        > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM

                        >

                        >

                        >

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                        >

                        > ----- Original Message -----

                        >

                        > From: Rod

                        >

                        > To: Rod

                        >

                        > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM

                        >

                        > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                        >

                        >

                        >

                        > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney

                        >

                        > ----- Original Message -----

                        >

                        > From: Rod

                        >

                        > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                        >

                        > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM

                        >

                        > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                        >

                        >

                        >

                        > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.

                        >

                        > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney

                        >

                        > ----- Original Message -----

                        >

                        > From: Larry Hollenberg

                        >

                        > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                        >

                        > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM

                        >

                        > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                        >

                        >

                        >

                        > Rod,

                        >

                        > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty

                        >

                        > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.

                        >

                        > Larry

                        >

                        >

                        >

                        > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net> wrote:

                        >

                        >

                        >

                        > From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net>

                        >

                        > Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                        >

                        > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                        >

                        > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM

                        >

                        >

                        >

                        > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?

                        >

                        >

                        >

                        > Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney

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                      • Rod
                        I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I
                        Message 11 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                          I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I have left and subtract from the price the material I used. Then the next person would take what they need, and sell what they have left and pass it not to the next person in need of seals untill gone. I would also send the molds I have, but there is only so many times a mold can be used before a new one has to be made. I will make the initial purchase and if it fails, take the loss. I am retired and look at this as a hobby. Rodney
                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: Peter Mumford
                          To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM
                          Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



                          Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!

                          Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!

                          Another oh well...................

                          As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??

                          Peter

                          --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:

                          From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                          Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                          To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM



                          Thank you for your efforts Peter.

                          I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:

                          "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.

                          Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."

                          I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.

                          Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)

                          Philip

                          --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@.. .> wrote:

                          >

                          > Hey Rod,

                          >

                          > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.

                          >

                          > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006

                          >

                          > Peter

                          >

                          > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@.. .> wrote:

                          >

                          > From: Rod <roddey99@.. .>

                          > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                          > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                          > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM

                          >

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                          > ----- Original Message -----

                          >

                          > From: Rod

                          >

                          > To: Rod

                          >

                          > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM

                          >

                          > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney

                          >

                          > ----- Original Message -----

                          >

                          > From: Rod

                          >

                          > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                          >

                          > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM

                          >

                          > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.

                          >

                          > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney

                          >

                          > ----- Original Message -----

                          >

                          > From: Larry Hollenberg

                          >

                          > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                          >

                          > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM

                          >

                          > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          > Rod,

                          >

                          > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty

                          >

                          > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.

                          >

                          > Larry

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net> wrote:

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          > From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net>

                          >

                          > Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                          >

                          > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                          >

                          > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          > Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney

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                        • Philip
                          Wow, Peter and Rodney are on the hunt! I am not familiar with these molds. Wish I was. Casco Bay Molding uses Healthcare Grade Silicone Rubber which is
                          Message 12 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                            Wow, Peter and Rodney are on the hunt!

                            I am not familiar with these molds. Wish I was. Casco Bay Molding uses Healthcare Grade Silicone Rubber which is dishwasher safe for their Silex narrow neck gasket. I got one from Larry and it has been fantastic. It may be that this material requires vacuum/injection molding in order to work. It might be worth checking into Rodney when you are talking to your sources.

                            You may be getting close to the type of solution so many have wanted for so long. I would be happy to consider joining in with you and others to help make some gaskets. Any idea what the mold would cost for a particular gasket? Any idea what the cost per gasket we make might be?

                            Thanks for your research and for sharing!

                            Philip

                            --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, "Rod" <roddey99@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I have left and subtract from the price the material I used. Then the next person would take what they need, and sell what they have left and pass it not to the next person in need of seals untill gone. I would also send the molds I have, but there is only so many times a mold can be used before a new one has to be made. I will make the initial purchase and if it fails, take the loss. I am retired and look at this as a hobby. Rodney
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: Peter Mumford
                            > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM
                            > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!
                            >
                            > Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!
                            >
                            > Another oh well...................
                            >
                            > As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??
                            >
                            > Peter
                            >
                            > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                            > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                            > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                            > Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Thank you for your efforts Peter.
                            >
                            > I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:
                            >
                            > "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.
                            >
                            > Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."
                            >
                            > I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.
                            >
                            > Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)
                            >
                            > Philip
                            >
                            > --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@ .> wrote:
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Hey Rod,
                            >
                            > >
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                            > > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.
                            >
                            > >
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                            > > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006
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                            >
                            > > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@ .> wrote:
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > From: Rod <roddey99@ .>
                            >
                            > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                            >
                            > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                            >
                            > > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM
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                            > > ----- Original Message -----
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                            > > From: Rod
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                            > > To: Rod
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
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                            > > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > From: Rod
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > From: Larry Hollenberg
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
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                            > >
                            >
                            > > Rod,
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Larry
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net> wrote:
                            >
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                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net>
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > >
                            >
                            > > Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney
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                          • Rod
                            http://www.jgreer.com/videos/index.htm Here is a web site I first stumbled on in my search. My father-in-law is a retired tool and die maker which from talking
                            Message 13 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                              http://www.jgreer.com/videos/index.htm
                              Here is a web site I first stumbled on in my search. My father-in-law is a retired tool and die maker which from talking to him, I started trying to find a way to make molds at home. There is one video showing making a rubber frog from urethane rubber.
                              I will know more after I send the company the seal. Its not the company that has the video's, but the manufacturer of the mold making material. Here they are- http://www.smooth-on.com/ This may come down to nothing, but I am going to try. Rodney
                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: Philip
                              To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:53 PM
                              Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal





                              Wow, Peter and Rodney are on the hunt!

                              I am not familiar with these molds. Wish I was. Casco Bay Molding uses Healthcare Grade Silicone Rubber which is dishwasher safe for their Silex narrow neck gasket. I got one from Larry and it has been fantastic. It may be that this material requires vacuum/injection molding in order to work. It might be worth checking into Rodney when you are talking to your sources.

                              You may be getting close to the type of solution so many have wanted for so long. I would be happy to consider joining in with you and others to help make some gaskets. Any idea what the mold would cost for a particular gasket? Any idea what the cost per gasket we make might be?

                              Thanks for your research and for sharing!

                              Philip

                              --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, "Rod" <roddey99@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I have left and subtract from the price the material I used. Then the next person would take what they need, and sell what they have left and pass it not to the next person in need of seals untill gone. I would also send the molds I have, but there is only so many times a mold can be used before a new one has to be made. I will make the initial purchase and if it fails, take the loss. I am retired and look at this as a hobby. Rodney
                              > ----- Original Message -----
                              > From: Peter Mumford
                              > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM
                              > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!
                              >
                              > Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!
                              >
                              > Another oh well...................
                              >
                              > As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??
                              >
                              > Peter
                              >
                              > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                              > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                              > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                              > Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Thank you for your efforts Peter.
                              >
                              > I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:
                              >
                              > "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.
                              >
                              > Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."
                              >
                              > I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.
                              >
                              > Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)
                              >
                              > Philip
                              >
                              > --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@ .> wrote:
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Hey Rod,
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Peter
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@ .> wrote:
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > From: Rod <roddey99@ .>
                              >
                              > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                              >
                              > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                              >
                              > > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM
                              >
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                              > > ----- Original Message -----
                              >
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                              > > From: Rod
                              >
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                              >
                              > > To: Rod
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
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                              >
                              > > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > ----- Original Message -----
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > From: Rod
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > ----- Original Message -----
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > From: Larry Hollenberg
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Rod,
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Larry
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net> wrote:
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net>
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                              >
                              > >
                              >
                              > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                              >
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                              > > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?
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                              > > Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney
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                            • Rod
                              I went back to the manufacturers website and see they have starter kits. That may be the way to go. If they work, and I end up having molds that I wont use for
                              Message 14 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                                I went back to the manufacturers website and see they have starter kits. That may be the way to go. If they work, and I end up having molds that I wont use for years or ever again, maybe someone in the group(moderator?) would hold them for loan. I will just give them away because they wont last long enough for me to need them again. Rodney
                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: Philip
                                To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:53 PM
                                Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal





                                Wow, Peter and Rodney are on the hunt!

                                I am not familiar with these molds. Wish I was. Casco Bay Molding uses Healthcare Grade Silicone Rubber which is dishwasher safe for their Silex narrow neck gasket. I got one from Larry and it has been fantastic. It may be that this material requires vacuum/injection molding in order to work. It might be worth checking into Rodney when you are talking to your sources.

                                You may be getting close to the type of solution so many have wanted for so long. I would be happy to consider joining in with you and others to help make some gaskets. Any idea what the mold would cost for a particular gasket? Any idea what the cost per gasket we make might be?

                                Thanks for your research and for sharing!

                                Philip

                                --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, "Rod" <roddey99@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I have left and subtract from the price the material I used. Then the next person would take what they need, and sell what they have left and pass it not to the next person in need of seals untill gone. I would also send the molds I have, but there is only so many times a mold can be used before a new one has to be made. I will make the initial purchase and if it fails, take the loss. I am retired and look at this as a hobby. Rodney
                                > ----- Original Message -----
                                > From: Peter Mumford
                                > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                                > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM
                                > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!
                                >
                                > Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!
                                >
                                > Another oh well...................
                                >
                                > As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??
                                >
                                > Peter
                                >
                                > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                                > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                                > To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                                > Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Thank you for your efforts Peter.
                                >
                                > I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:
                                >
                                > "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.
                                >
                                > Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."
                                >
                                > I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.
                                >
                                > Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)
                                >
                                > Philip
                                >
                                > --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@ .> wrote:
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Hey Rod,
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.
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                                > > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006
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                                > > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@ .> wrote:
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                                > > From: Rod <roddey99@ .>
                                >
                                > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                                >
                                > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
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                                > > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM
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                                > > ----- Original Message -----
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                                > > From: Rod
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                                > > To: Rod
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                                > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM
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                                > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
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                                > > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney
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                                > > ----- Original Message -----
                                >
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                                > > From: Rod
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                                > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
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                                > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM
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                                > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
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                                >
                                > > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > ----- Original Message -----
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > From: Larry Hollenberg
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM
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                                > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
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                                >
                                > > Rod,
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                                >
                                > > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.
                                >
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                                >
                                > > Larry
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                                > > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net> wrote:
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                                > > From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net>
                                >
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                                >
                                > > Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                                >
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                                >
                                > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
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                                > > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM
                                >
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                                >
                                > > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?
                                >
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                                > >
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                                > > Other than that it works fine. I did have to change to a Yama 2 piece filter but took out the paper filter and put in a espresso dispersion screen. It will work until I can get a better burr grinder. Rodney
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                              • Peter Mumford
                                Hey Rod, Definitely on the right track!! One thing I d like to point out. If you go forward with this experiment. Try putting the silicone in a vacuum before
                                Message 15 of 18 , Mar 26, 2010
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                                  Hey Rod,

                                  Definitely on the right track!! One thing I'd like to point out. If you go forward with this experiment. Try putting the silicone in a vacuum before molding. It gets all the air bubbles out before you pour it into the mold. Makes it hard and bubbleless.

                                  Great work on the research!!

                                  Peter


                                  --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Rod <roddey99@...> wrote:

                                  From: Rod <roddey99@...>
                                  Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                                  To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                                  Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 10:39 AM







                                   









                                  I went back to the manufacturers website and see they have starter kits. That may be the way to go. If they work, and I end up having molds that I wont use for years or ever again, maybe someone in the group(moderator? ) would hold them for loan. I will just give them away because they wont last long enough for me to need them again. Rodney

                                  ----- Original Message -----

                                  From: Philip

                                  To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                                  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:53 PM

                                  Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal



                                  Wow, Peter and Rodney are on the hunt!



                                  I am not familiar with these molds. Wish I was. Casco Bay Molding uses Healthcare Grade Silicone Rubber which is dishwasher safe for their Silex narrow neck gasket. I got one from Larry and it has been fantastic. It may be that this material requires vacuum/injection molding in order to work. It might be worth checking into Rodney when you are talking to your sources.



                                  You may be getting close to the type of solution so many have wanted for so long. I would be happy to consider joining in with you and others to help make some gaskets. Any idea what the mold would cost for a particular gasket? Any idea what the cost per gasket we make might be?



                                  Thanks for your research and for sharing!



                                  Philip



                                  --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, "Rod" <roddey99@.. .> wrote:

                                  >

                                  > I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I have left and subtract from the price the material I used. Then the next person would take what they need, and sell what they have left and pass it not to the next person in need of seals untill gone. I would also send the molds I have, but there is only so many times a mold can be used before a new one has to be made. I will make the initial purchase and if it fails, take the loss. I am retired and look at this as a hobby. Rodney

                                  > ----- Original Message -----

                                  > From: Peter Mumford

                                  > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                                  > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM

                                  > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                                  >

                                  >

                                  >

                                  > Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!

                                  >

                                  > Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!

                                  >

                                  > Another oh well........ ......... ..

                                  >

                                  > As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??

                                  >

                                  > Peter

                                  >

                                  > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@... > wrote:

                                  >

                                  > From: Philip <pbpetty@... >

                                  > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                                  > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                                  > Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM

                                  >

                                  >

                                  >

                                  > Thank you for your efforts Peter.

                                  >

                                  > I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:

                                  >

                                  > "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.

                                  >

                                  > Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."

                                  >

                                  > I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.

                                  >

                                  > Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)

                                  >

                                  > Philip

                                  >

                                  > --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@ .> wrote:

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Hey Rod,

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Just ran into this product. Haven't tried it but it does sound promising. At least it's soy-based and not a petroleum product. I'm guessing that may safer.

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > http://carolinagree n.com/ecomm/ proddetail. asp?prod= 10006

                                  >

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                                  > > Peter

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Rod <roddey99@ .> wrote:

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > From: Rod <roddey99@ .>

                                  >

                                  > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                                  >

                                  > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                                  >

                                  > > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:37 AM

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                                  > > ----- Original Message -----

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                                  > > From: Rod

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                                  > > To: Rod

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                                  > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:25 AM

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                                  > > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > ----- Original Message -----

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > From: Rod

                                  >

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                                  >

                                  > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                                  >

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                                  > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:22 AM

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                                  > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                                  >

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                                  >

                                  > > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Only now I have a new 8 cup pot with an older seal. So I guess I paid 25.00 for a seal, but now have a nice new 8 cup to dispaly and a great working DXL. Rodney

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > ----- Original Message -----

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > From: Larry Hollenberg

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:16 AM

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Rod,

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > seals due to age. Mine has a ribbed seal which is tricky to seal, but twisting it while pushing gently downward when its on the pot sometimes causes it to seal better. But that loose effect between the seal and the upper pot is not likely to correct with that method.

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Larry

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > >

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                                  > > --- On Tue, 3/23/10, roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net> wrote:

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                                  >

                                  > > From: roddey99 <roddey99@sbcglobal . net>

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Subject: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 11:04 PM

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > >

                                  >

                                  > > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?

                                  >

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                                • Philip
                                  Peter, Forgive my ignorance, but are you referring to the silicone used to make the mold or the silicon used to make a gasket or both? Philip
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                                    Peter,

                                    Forgive my ignorance, but are you referring to the silicone used to make the mold or the silicon used to make a gasket or both?

                                    Philip

                                    --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@...> wrote:
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                                    > Definitely on the right track!! One thing I'd like to point out. If you go forward with this experiment. Try putting the silicone in a vacuum before molding. It gets all the air bubbles out before you pour it into the mold. Makes it hard and bubbleless.
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                                    > From: Rod <roddey99@...>
                                    > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
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                                    > Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 10:39 AM
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                                    > I went back to the manufacturers website and see they have starter kits. That may be the way to go. If they work, and I end up having molds that I wont use for years or ever again, maybe someone in the group(moderator? ) would hold them for loan. I will just give them away because they wont last long enough for me to need them again. Rodney
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                                    > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:53 PM
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                                    > Wow, Peter and Rodney are on the hunt!
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                                    > I am not familiar with these molds. Wish I was. Casco Bay Molding uses Healthcare Grade Silicone Rubber which is dishwasher safe for their Silex narrow neck gasket. I got one from Larry and it has been fantastic. It may be that this material requires vacuum/injection molding in order to work. It might be worth checking into Rodney when you are talking to your sources.
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                                    > > I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I have left and subtract from the price the material I used. Then the next person would take what they need, and sell what they have left and pass it not to the next person in need of seals untill gone. I would also send the molds I have, but there is only so many times a mold can be used before a new one has to be made. I will make the initial purchase and if it fails, take the loss. I am retired and look at this as a hobby. Rodney
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                                    > > I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:
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                                    > > > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.
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                                    > > > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
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                                  • Rod
                                    I dont know myself, I have some guesses, but I am no pro at making molds. Its why I am sending the seal to smooth-on, the tech support there said they would
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                                      I dont know myself, I have some guesses, but I am no pro at making molds. Its why I am sending the seal to smooth-on, the tech support there said they would look at the seal to try to determine the correct materials to use. I was thinking of silicone molds with rubber as the seal material. They need to know the hardness rating of the rubber in the seals, and to try to determine what kind of rubber they used. They also said to send an email showing the pots, so they can see the application there being used in. I think the tech support is the wrong generation to ever have seen these old pots.
                                      There is also food grade silicone as an option for the seal material, but I dont know about silcon seals made in silicon molds. By sending the seal I am trying to reduce the chance of failure. There reward is that I said I would pass the knowledge on how it can be done and were the materials came from.
                                      . Rodney
                                      ----- Original Message -----
                                      From: Philip
                                      To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                                      Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:54 PM
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                                      Peter,

                                      Forgive my ignorance, but are you referring to the silicone used to make the mold or the silicon used to make a gasket or both?

                                      Philip

                                      --- In vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@...> wrote:
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                                      > I went back to the manufacturers website and see they have starter kits. That may be the way to go. If they work, and I end up having molds that I wont use for years or ever again, maybe someone in the group(moderator? ) would hold them for loan. I will just give them away because they wont last long enough for me to need them again. Rodney
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                                      > I am not familiar with these molds. Wish I was. Casco Bay Molding uses Healthcare Grade Silicone Rubber which is dishwasher safe for their Silex narrow neck gasket. I got one from Larry and it has been fantastic. It may be that this material requires vacuum/injection molding in order to work. It might be worth checking into Rodney when you are talking to your sources.
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                                      > You may be getting close to the type of solution so many have wanted for so long. I would be happy to consider joining in with you and others to help make some gaskets. Any idea what the mold would cost for a particular gasket? Any idea what the cost per gasket we make might be?
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                                      > Thanks for your research and for sharing!
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                                      > > I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I have left and subtract from the price the material I used. Then the next person would take what they need, and sell what they have left and pass it not to the next person in need of seals untill gone. I would also send the molds I have, but there is only so many times a mold can be used before a new one has to be made. I will make the initial purchase and if it fails, take the loss. I am retired and look at this as a hobby. Rodney
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                                      > > ----- Original Message -----
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                                      > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com
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                                      > > Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!
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                                      > > Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!
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                                      > > As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??
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                                      > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@ > wrote:
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                                      > > Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 5:21 AM
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                                      > > Thank you for your efforts Peter.
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                                      > > I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:
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                                      > > "Description: Rawn America Re-Grip MIL is a soy based product designed for cleaning and protecting rubber or synthetic rubber. Coating rubber with Re-Grip MIL will prolong the life of any rubber surface by preventing drying and sun damage.
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                                      > > Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."
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                                      > > I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.
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                                      > > > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.
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                                      > > > From: Larry Hollenberg
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                                      > > > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty
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                                      > > > My gasket on a Cory DXL seems flexible enough, but I am having a problem with it leaking air between the upper pot and the seal after I brew the first pot because the seal heats up and gets loose. When I remove the upper pot the seal wants to stay in the bottom carafe. Is there a product that I can use to help the gasket stick to the upper pot and seal better around the glass filter inset? Thanks for any suggestion. I am thinking some kind of silicon. Anyone run into this?
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                                    • Peter Mumford
                                      Philip, I was referring to making the mold. Though it can be used for either though I m not familiar with a silicone/silicone process. I think it could work if
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                                        Philip,

                                        I was referring to making the mold. Though it can be used for either though I'm not familiar with a silicone/silicone process. I think it could work if supported in an armature to maintain rigidity of the mold itself. I used silicone to make a mold for casting a rigid material.


                                        Peter


                                        --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Philip <pbpetty@...> wrote:

                                        From: Philip <pbpetty@...>
                                        Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal
                                        To: vacuumcoffeepotcollector@yahoogroups.com
                                        Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:54 AM







                                         









                                        Peter,



                                        Forgive my ignorance, but are you referring to the silicone used to make the mold or the silicon used to make a gasket or both?



                                        Philip



                                        --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@.. .> wrote:

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                                        > Hey Rod,

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                                        > Definitely on the right track!! One thing I'd like to point out. If you go forward with this experiment. Try putting the silicone in a vacuum before molding. It gets all the air bubbles out before you pour it into the mold. Makes it hard and bubbleless.

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                                        > Great work on the research!!

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                                        > Peter

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                                        > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Rod <roddey99@.. .> wrote:

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                                        > From: Rod <roddey99@.. .>

                                        > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

                                        > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

                                        > Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 10:39 AM

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                                        > I went back to the manufacturers website and see they have starter kits. That may be the way to go. If they work, and I end up having molds that I wont use for years or ever again, maybe someone in the group(moderator? ) would hold them for loan. I will just give them away because they wont last long enough for me to need them again. Rodney

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                                        > ----- Original Message -----

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                                        > From: Philip

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                                        > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

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                                        > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:53 PM

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                                        > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

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                                        > Wow, Peter and Rodney are on the hunt!

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                                        > I am not familiar with these molds. Wish I was. Casco Bay Molding uses Healthcare Grade Silicone Rubber which is dishwasher safe for their Silex narrow neck gasket. I got one from Larry and it has been fantastic. It may be that this material requires vacuum/injection molding in order to work. It might be worth checking into Rodney when you are talking to your sources.

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                                        > You may be getting close to the type of solution so many have wanted for so long. I would be happy to consider joining in with you and others to help make some gaskets. Any idea what the mold would cost for a particular gasket? Any idea what the cost per gasket we make might be?

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                                        > Thanks for your research and for sharing!

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                                        > --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, "Rod" <roddey99@ .> wrote:

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                                        > > I need to clarify what I meant by the mold making material. What I am proposing is if it is possibel to do these molds and seals, I would sell the material I have left and subtract from the price the material I used. Then the next person would take what they need, and sell what they have left and pass it not to the next person in need of seals untill gone. I would also send the molds I have, but there is only so many times a mold can be used before a new one has to be made. I will make the initial purchase and if it fails, take the loss. I am retired and look at this as a hobby. Rodney

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                                        > > ----- Original Message -----

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                                        > > From: Peter Mumford

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                                        > > To: vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com

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                                        > > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 8:58 AM

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                                        > > Philip, as usual, you really get to the point!!

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                                        > > Really appreciate you for the efforts you put forth for the community. Great follow up!!

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                                        > > As you say there may be something we can use. Just have to find it!! Right??

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                                        > > From: Philip <pbpetty@ >

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                                        > > Subject: Re: [vacpot] Leaky Seal

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                                        > > I called Carolina Green and talked to the owner who used to be a regional manager for Rawn America (OEM) about this product. It is not safe for use in contact with foods and can be toxic if ingested. The purpose of these products is primarily to provide military users with a product that is biodegradable and non-hazardous in contact with skin or if inhaled. The OEM site has this:

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                                        > > Application: Use a cloth saturated with Re-Grip MIL to rub surface until clean. Wipe off excess. Re-Grip MIL is effective in cleaning and protecting rubber on tires or rubber tracked vehicles, boots, CVC boots, etc."

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                                        > > I checked with my oldest son (former Marine Sgt in the Wing) who spent 2 years in Iraq and he told me there are a lot of these products to help prep the birds for transport on Navy ships to and from the US. There are very strict rules on the use of toxic preservatives.

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                                        > > Keep looking...one of these days we may find the product we are all hoping for. ;-)

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                                        > > --- In vacuumcoffeepotcoll ector@yahoogroup s.com, Peter Mumford <punatech@ .> wrote:

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                                        > > > I have a question, has anyone attempted to make a silicon mold of the seals? I looked into it but couldnt find a correct type of rubber to use in the mold. Rodney

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                                        > > > Thank you, after your email I took the seal off the new 8 cup Cory and put it on the used 12 cup dxl. It made a big difference. The water went down FAST and made a big "wosh" vacuum sound when the top bowel emptied. Before I was just getting a little bubling in the bottom pot at the end of the drain from up top. What a difference.

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                                        > > > Welcome to the group. You are experiencing a fairly common problem and one that is discussed here from time to time. I had some luck using a "wide postal type rubber band" that I place on the glass top under the seal, then replace the seal. Some pots it works on and some it doesn't due to the shape. Some people including me have used plumbing teflon tape and wrapping it around that same area if a rubber band won't stay in place. It takes quite a few loops around the pot since the tape is so thin. It also is easy to get all out of shape under the seal if you don't watch carefully how the rubber goes over it. As far as glueing it with silicone, again I think some have done that but I personally tried to avoid anything more or less permanent under the seal since you may want to clean under it from time to time. The only real cure is to find a better working seal. Corys are perhaps one of the worst of the stove top pots when it comes to faulty

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