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Re: Vermont ship of the line model

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  • alanpara
    Hugh, That is true and also, each individual Captain had leeway in arming his ship. Most chose to add more guns. I just did some more reading and Constitution,
    Message 1 of 8 , Mar 9 5:12 PM
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      Hugh,
      That is true and also, each individual Captain had leeway in arming his ship. Most chose to add more guns. I just did some more reading and Constitution, rated as a 44, carried as many as 56 guns. Even though she was rated a frigate, she was armed more like a light ship of the line.
      Al

      --- In usshipsoftheline@yahoogroups.com, Hugh Donald Curran <hughdonald@...> wrote:
      >
      > I believe the disparity as to the differences in number of guns in
      > rating category as to the actual guns on board was the result of
      > breakthroughs in Naval Ordinance which provided superior fire power with
      > less and lighter cannons and naval rifles.
      >
      > Best Regards
      > Hugh Curran
      > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:59 PM, alanpara <alanpara@...> wrote:
      >
      > > **
      > >
      > >
      > > All the American ships of the line, except Pennsylvania, were authorized,
      > > designed and listed as 74's. North Carolina was listed as a 74 and was
      > > pierced for 102 guns. The list that has them listed as 84 gun ships may be
      > > a mistake, I've never seen anything official that lists an American ship as
      > > an 84. All the ships on that list were 74's. They are listed as 74's in
      > > Chappelle, Canney, Shiflett and the Naval History Division publication
      > > "American Ships of the Line."
      > > Al
      > >
      > > --- In usshipsoftheline@yahoogroups.com, James Friedman <thunder1970nn@>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > I think that in all actually they would have been listed as an 80
      > > because I don't believe the chasers were included in the gun count.
      > > > Â
      > > > James
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > >________________________________
      > > > > From: alanpara <alanpara@>
      > > > >To: usshipsoftheline@yahoogroups.com
      > > > >Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:25 PM
      > > > >Subject: [usshipsoftheline] Re: Vermont ship of the line model
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >Â
      > > > >
      > > > >James,
      > > > >In spite of the number of gun ports they were listed as 74's. In fact
      > > the New Orleans, a 74, was reported to have been able to carry up to 130
      > > guns. The Constitution, a 44, carried as many as 52 guns.
      > > > >Al
      > > > >
      > > > >--- In mailto:usshipsoftheline%40yahoogroups.com, James Friedman
      > > <thunder1970nn@> wrote:
      > > > >>
      > > > >> Al,
      > > > >> ÂÂ
      > > > >> In spite of the label for the Vermont model, she is an 84 not a 74.
      > > That's also the number I came up with countint the gun ports and includes
      > > the 2 bow chasers & the 4 stern chasers.
      > > > >> ÂÂ
      > > > >> James
      > > > >>
      > > > >>
      > > > >> >________________________________
      > > > >> > From: alanpara <alanpara@>
      > > > >> >To: mailto:usshipsoftheline%40yahoogroups.com
      > > > >> >Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:47 PM
      > > > >> >Subject: [usshipsoftheline] Vermont ship of the line model
      > > > >> >
      > > > >> >
      > > > >> >ÂÂ
      > > > >> >
      > > > >> >My name is Al and I am a brand new member. I am a 24 year Navy vet
      > > and have been interested in American ships of the line for about four
      > > years. I bought the model Vermont about two weeks ago at an auction in
      > > Dallas. I have posted some pictures of it in an album. If anyone might have
      > > an idea who built it I would love to know. My pictures are not great but it
      > > is a very high quality model and the workmanship is superb. I cannot find
      > > anywhere on it where the builder might have put his name. I will post
      > > better pictures when I can get it outside under better light.
      > > > >> >
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      > > > >> >
      > > > >>
      > > > >
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