Re: [usshipsoftheline] Incorrect information
- PC,Thanks for your reply. I agree with your assessment. When you consider it there are many warships the USN had the never fired a shot yet performed their task through times of peace showing the flag all over the world. A comparable example would be our carriers. All through the 50's and 60's they cruised the med as well as the western pacific performing much the same function as the S's OTL did in the 19th century. One cannot expect a ship so large to manuver or have the same seakeeping qualities as a frigate. Two different ships designed for two different tasks so I think the criticism is misguided.Your forum is not frequented too much but the photo section is great and your Deleware is a beautiful model. I wish I had the patience to build one. Actual information on these ships is so hard to come by. It is a shame none that survived into the early 20th century were preserved. It's only been in recent times the the USN has set about trying to preserve artifacts of its past. Even now though the navy is still dragging its feet about raising some aircraft from the bottom of the sea of which they have no examples of for their museum. In addition, the navy will not allow non government entities to raise and restore those aircraft and will procecute anyone that tries to raise them. The USAF has a different attitude, they don't care if anyone salvages any wreck as long as any human remains are left undisturbed until they can be removed by the military beforehand.Jon K.
--- On Wed, 1/21/09, PC Coker <cokerre@...> wrote:
From: PC Coker <cokerre@...>
Subject: Re: [usshipsoftheline] Incorrect information
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 11:03 PMHi,The basic information was correct. The mis-information if such was in describing the ships as poor sailers. Most large sailing ships were unwieldy and few were good sailers as such. The real exception seems to be the US ship of the line Ohio which is described in most accounts as "handling like a frigate".The other misconception is asserting that these ships did nothing of note, would we say the same about the Polaris FBM submarines or any of the post-World War IIUSN warships?The American ships of the line performed notable service in showing the flag and asserting American naval prowess after the War of 1812 showing that the new nation had achieved an industrial level close to those of Europe. After all the warship throughout most of history whether powered by oars, sails, or steam were the best indicator of any nation's industrial creativity. The ship of the line was the epitome of the sailing ship in its complexity to build and operate. With these ships of the line the United States showed that she had arrived and had attained a naval and industrial level equal to those of most European nations.When the North Carolina joined the US Mediterranean Squadron in 1824 she was described by one foreign observer as "the finest warship in the world"---hardly the creation of a primitive society!The Columbus and Ohio provided yeoman service in the Mexican War in the Pacific and went with Commodore Perry to Japan in 1853. Other ships provided excellent support service in the Civil War as receiving ships and tenders supporting the Union Navy's blockade. Several lasted well past the war and 2 or 3 into the 20th Century. PC Coker