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• This is an excellent question you guys are discussing. Here is my thought: A receptor of scalar waves - whatever they are - is probably proportional to the
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This is an excellent question you guys are discussing.

Here is my thought: A receptor of 'scalar waves' - whatever they are -
is probably proportional to the electromagnetic stress in the
receiver. This stress can be induced by charging a capacitor, for
example. Tesla himself in US patents 685953 through 685958 points
this out by proposing to connect a large copper sheet to a charged
capacitor. According to his patents, this is supposed to manifest an
additional voltage proportional to the transmitter signal, where the
transmitter is the magnifying transmitter. The signal is also
proportional to the area of the copper sheet, and most importantly,
proportional to the applied DC bias voltage on the capacitor.

At this point -- assuming this invention works as advertised -- we
will receive an AC signal on the charged capacitor, at the frequency
of the transmitter. However, as has been pointed out, we do not know
that this is not just some type of capacitive or inductive coupling.

I suggest that a way to isolate the usual capacitive/inductive
coupling from any potential novel effect (indicative of scalar waves)
is to make the stress on the capacitor an alternating voltage, not
just a DC voltage as proposed by Tesla. That is, you would connect
the capacitor to a high voltage AC source, eg a resonant transformer,
at say freq=f1. The source (magnifying transmitter/tesla coil)
operates at say frequency f2. Because the received signal is
proportional to both the transmit signal and the received biasing
(stressing) signal, the novel component on the capacitor will be at
freq = f1+f2, because of the multiplication. That is, the capacitor
will have in fact three frequency components on it, f1 (the applied
AC receiver stressing voltage), f2 (the transmitter signal), and
f1+f2 (the novel signal). Maxwell's equations are fundamentally
linear and only predict the existence of f1 and f2, but no f1+f2. The
existence of f1+f2 is evidence for new physics. This new frequency
component could be measured in the presence of the other maxwellian
components using a spectrum analyzer. Component f2 may be
particularly large b/c it is applied to the receiver, so a notch
filter may be needed to knock down f2 so that f1+f2 may be observed.

This is a general idea which I think can be applied again and again
when looking for new electromagnetic forces (such as scalar waves).
Turning to a different application, if you look at for example Harold
Aspden's book Physics Unified (Chapter 1), he proposes new
electromagnetic force laws, which coincide with our well-known
Maxwellian laws for closed circuits. However for open circuits (such
a spark gap-discharge, as used in Tesla coils/magnifying
transmitters), there is predicted divergence from Maxwell. This new
electromagnetic force law is fundamentally nonlinear. Where there is
nonlinearity, there is hope for a clean separation from Maxwellian
physics, which is linear. We all know that nonlinear phenomenon give
rise to mixing effects, ie, new frequency components. We can look for
these new frequency components as evidence for new non-maxwellian
(nonlinear) phenomena.

Derek

--- In usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com, Riversong Education <rivedu@e...>
wrote:
> This has been a conundrum for me over the course of many years. I
first
> became aware of the possible existence of a "scalar" form of energy
> separate from electricity due to lectures by Tom Beardon back in
1984!
>
> Here are just a few meagre clues that may assist us in the design
of
> such an instrument:
>
> Scalar energy, as postulated in Beardon's work, happens to behave a
lot
> like sound. Therefore, any transducer setup that does not use
> electricity could be a promising avenue.
>
> If this energy is really equivalent to what ancient Chinese
scientists
> described as "Ch'i or Qi", then we have little hope of ever
detecting it
> outside of our own trained sensory systems.
>
> Piezoelectric detectors, as specified by Dan Davidson, have some
> potential for detecting the interface between gravity and
> electromagnetism, which also appears to behave in a scalar manner.
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2004, at 10:44 AM, cirrex2001 wrote:
>
> > Hello Friends...
> > Anyone can suggest a schematic for a sensitive scalar detector
that
> > not react to general electricity?
> > Lot of thanks.
> > Cyrano
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
• Hi,Derek.. Compliments for you theory...Seems that work,also..Look this link:http://www.orgonelab.org/ylemeter.htm You describe the same principle of this
Message 2 of 13 , Mar 26, 2004
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Hi,Derek..
Compliments for you theory...Seems that work,also..Look this link:http://www.orgonelab.org/ylemeter.htm
You describe the same principle of this experimental orgone detector.Orgone is another name made by the psychologist W.Reich to call scalar energy.
If you want to complete the work post a electronic schematic based on your theory...
Cyrano.
----- Original Message -----
From: Derek
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: [usa-tesla] Re: About scalar waves...

This is an excellent question you guys are discussing.

Here is my thought: A receptor of 'scalar waves' - whatever they are -
is probably proportional to the electromagnetic stress in the
receiver. This stress can be induced by charging a capacitor, for
example. Tesla himself in US patents 685953 through 685958 points
this out by proposing to connect a large copper sheet to a charged
capacitor. According to his patents, this is supposed to manifest an
additional voltage proportional to the transmitter signal, where the
transmitter is the magnifying transmitter. The signal is also
proportional to the area of the copper sheet, and most importantly,
proportional to the applied DC bias voltage on the capacitor.

At this point -- assuming this invention works as advertised -- we
will receive an AC signal on the charged capacitor, at the frequency
of the transmitter. However, as has been pointed out, we do not know
that this is not just some type of capacitive or inductive coupling.

I suggest that a way to isolate the usual capacitive/inductive
coupling from any potential novel effect (indicative of scalar waves)
is to make the stress on the capacitor an alternating voltage, not
just a DC voltage as proposed by Tesla. That is, you would connect
the capacitor to a high voltage AC source, eg a resonant transformer,
at say freq=f1. The source (magnifying transmitter/tesla coil)
operates at say frequency f2. Because the received signal is
proportional to both the transmit signal and the received biasing
(stressing) signal, the novel component on the capacitor will be at
freq = f1+f2, because of the multiplication. That is, the capacitor
will have in fact three frequency components on it, f1 (the applied
AC receiver stressing voltage), f2 (the transmitter signal), and
f1+f2 (the novel signal). Maxwell's equations are fundamentally
linear and only predict the existence of f1 and f2, but no f1+f2. The
existence of f1+f2 is evidence for new physics. This new frequency
component could be measured in the presence of the other maxwellian
components using a spectrum analyzer. Component f2 may be
particularly large b/c it is applied to the receiver, so a notch
filter may be needed to knock down f2 so that f1+f2 may be observed.

This is a general idea which I think can be applied again and again
when looking for new electromagnetic forces (such as scalar waves).
Turning to a different application, if you look at for example Harold
Aspden's book Physics Unified (Chapter 1), he proposes new
electromagnetic force laws, which coincide with our well-known
Maxwellian laws for closed circuits. However for open circuits (such
a spark gap-discharge, as used in Tesla coils/magnifying
transmitters), there is predicted divergence from Maxwell. This new
electromagnetic force law is fundamentally nonlinear. Where there is
nonlinearity, there is hope for a clean separation from Maxwellian
physics, which is linear. We all know that nonlinear phenomenon give
rise to mixing effects, ie, new frequency components. We can look for
these new frequency components as evidence for new non-maxwellian
(nonlinear) phenomena.

Derek

--- In usa-tesla@yahoogroups.com, Riversong Education <rivedu@e...>
wrote:
> This has been a conundrum for me over the course of many years.  I
first
> became aware of the possible existence of a "scalar" form of energy
> separate from electricity due to lectures by Tom Beardon back in
1984!
>
> Here are just a few meagre clues that may assist us in the design
of
> such an instrument:
>
> Scalar energy, as postulated in Beardon's work, happens to behave a
lot
> like sound.  Therefore, any transducer setup that does not use
> electricity could be a promising avenue.
>
> If this energy is really equivalent to what ancient Chinese
scientists
> described as "Ch'i or Qi", then we have little hope of ever
detecting it
> outside of our own trained sensory systems.
>
> Piezoelectric detectors, as specified by Dan Davidson, have some
> potential for detecting the interface between gravity and
> electromagnetism, which also appears to behave in a scalar manner.
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2004, at 10:44 AM, cirrex2001 wrote:
>
> > Hello Friends...
> > Anyone can suggest a schematic for a sensitive scalar detector
that
> > not react to general electricity?
> > Lot of thanks.
> > Cyrano
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >