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  • Riversong Education
    Yipes. So far effects directly on the eyes have not been part of my observations. However, i could see how this can happen, given the information you
    Message 1 of 67 , Oct 1, 2003
      Yipes. So far effects directly on the eyes have not been part of my
      observations. However, i could see how this can happen, given the
      information you supplied here.

      Two herbs come to mind immediately. I have used Eyebright many times in
      the past, as i have sensitive eyes due to diabetes. I make a relatively
      weak tea with it, and dab a little onto the eyes until symptoms go
      away. It has a gentle strengthening effect. The other one is
      Bilberry. Usually in midsummer, between late July and mid-August, i get
      blurred vision for a few days. Taking the Bilberry capsules at that
      time for two or three days has resolved the problem each of the past
      three years. I have seen no reports of toxicity from either of these
      herbs, although it could be possible.

      The effects i have observed, which are difficult to understand, involve
      people hearing voices in their heads after experiencing a scan. This
      has happened in just a few cases -- i've seen about five of these. All
      were women, and all had what most people would probably say are
      difficult lives. Oh, and all had some metal in their mouths, meaning
      dental fillings. I've discussed this a bit with Hal Huggins, and he
      thought the fillings were a problem, and was not sure the MRI was a
      causative factor.

      Each of these cases could be dismissed as "paranoid schizophrenia",
      except that there is not accepted definition for that term and no
      causative factor generally acknowledged for that condition. There are
      some similarities between this diagnosis and Dr. Diamond's reports of
      "brain hemisphere separation". This could perhaps mean that the MRI
      process causes some kind of interference with inter-hemisphere
      communications. Another possibility is direct damage to nerve cells
      inside the brain. And yet another possibility is a sort of bending of
      cellular structures taking place. Since we can't open up the brains of
      these unfortunate patients (thankfully we are still civilized in that
      respect) we are not going to easily determine which of these scenarios
      is happening.

      About the only things i can suggest for people dealing with this problem
      are living in an electromagnetically quiet environment, and making sure
      their nutrition is of the best possible quality, including ample daily
      Vitamin B supplementation.

      On Sunday, September 30, 2007, at 11:56 PM, James Moore wrote:

      > Hi MR... I am curious what type of bad side effects have you heard to
      > be manifested
      > from MRI scans, in this certain group of folks. I recently had an
      > experimental MRI
      > 'functional brain scan' took about 1/2 and I was in a 3 Tesla
      > superconducting field
      > and lord only knows how much and what frequencies of RF they pumped me
      > with.
      >
      > Coincidentally or not, 2 days later I manifested vision problems in my
      > right eye,
      > after two visits to a retinal specialist he said I was having a
      > vitreous separation.
      > As this event manifests the vitreous shrinks in size due to a partial
      > liquefaction
      > of the normal gel polymer, matrix. I see bright flashes of light in the
      > shape of a
      > crescent moon and sometimes a full eclipsed circular flash, when I move
      > my eyes
      > up or down.
      >
      > I told him that it started 1 or 2 days after this non-FDA approved
      > powerful brain MRI, and he said it could not have anything to do with
      > it, but I am
      > not convened this is so. There can be localized heating of tissues with
      > poor fluid
      > or blood flow, which the inside of your eye has basically no flow.
      > Maybe my right
      > eye was on the verge of this type of old age event, and the RF cooked
      > it slightly
      > and fostered the accordance of this disconcerting process? I have
      > blurring of vision
      > and floaters in this eye now, and the full separation from the retina
      > hasn't taken
      > place yet, and until it does there is a risk of retinal tear or
      > detachment.
      >
      > Ooops hope not, but I did read at one web site devoted to MRI side
      > effects,
      > that the eyes were the most vulnerable to the heating affect of the
      > high frequency
      > RF component, because of the lack of blood cooling on the inside. Other
      > retinal
      > problems have been reported also, during and after MRI of 1-2 Tesla
      > range. I
      > have to hope for the best, but the $20 they gave me for my
      > participation in their
      > functional MRI brain scan experiment, didn't cover my co-pay fee for
      > the first
      > trip to the ophthalmologist.
      >
      > JPM
      >
      >
      Michael Riversong
      http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong
      The Pure River Project: featuring free Celtic harp and other gentle MP3s
      and radical ideas about music and culture </blockquote></x-html>
    • James Moore
      Hi MR... did you ever find out anything else about the MWO in question. One sold on Ebay for $540 I think, but it wasn t made by Hessel. However, this was
      Message 67 of 67 , Nov 2, 2003
        Hi MR... did you ever find out anything else about the MWO in question.
        One sold on Ebay for $540 I think, but it wasn't made by Hessel. However,
        this was about 1/3 the regular price for this unit, if I remember right.

        Saw something interesting the other day... it was an air pump out of an old
        Coulter Cell Sorter from the '80s... it was a HomoPolar disk design moter,
        with a silvery metal disk about 7-8 inches in diameter, and about 1/8 inch
        think... the disk had little round punch marks about 1/8 inch in diameter,
        covering the surface of the disk. Interesting design, don't know whether the
        little round indentations over the surface has a function or whether they were
        there to hold two sided disk together? I assume that it was low RPM?

        Didn't get to see it work, because it was just sitting on a shelf in an electronics shop,
        along with various other curious disk shaped objects, such as old multiplater hard drive
        disks, etc. If I go back there I might get a model number from it.

        JPM

        At 07:12 AM 10/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
        Do you know Hessel?  Does he have an email address?  I spent some time
        with him in 1992.  He is extremely gifted in this area, and also is a
        delightful person.

        On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 02:30 AM, Chris Titan wrote:

        > Frans,
        >
        > Hessel Hornveldt makes a MWO that is most similar to the original and
        > he lives in the Netherlands as well. This may be your best option to
        > follow up on.
        >
        > http://www.specialep.nl/
        >
        > Chris Titan
        >
        >
        Michael Riversong
        http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong
        The Pure River Project: featuring free Celtic harp and other gentle MP3s
        and radical ideas about music and culture

        "The nations of the world will have to unite, for the  next war will be
          an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday make
          a common front against attack by people from other planets."
                       -- General  Douglas MacArthur -1955

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