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  • johooper@unm.edu
    Luz, You mentioned that you worked with the Navajo Nation. I am currently working on a project looking at diabetes prevention among Native Americans here in
    Message 1 of 5 , Mar 11 12:08 PM
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      Luz,

      You mentioned that you worked with the Navajo Nation. I am currently
      working on a project looking at diabetes prevention among Native
      Americans here in New Mexico. As part of my background research, I am
      particularly interested in the food commodities programs and perhaps
      how them impacted the local diet and changed it from the traditional
      healthier foods to ones high in fat and high glycemic index
      carbohydrates. Although I have heard people make reference to it, I
      am having a hard time finding any information that documents this
      historic event specifically in the literature searches that I have
      done. Do you have any references or ideas as to where I could find
      this information--for that matter, does anyone?

      Joanna


      Quoting Luz Huntington <luzhunt@...>:

      > <html><body>
      >
      >
      > <tt>
      > Joanna, Scott, John and Mark,<BR>
      > I am also a bit hesitant to contribute to this discussion but do
      > think I <BR>
      > have an important point to make. I really like Joanna's logical
      > approach to <BR>
      > monies spent on international health issues but ultimately I must
      > side with <BR>
      > Scott. I do feel it is extremely important to restore the health of
      > the most <BR>
      > productive adults in the community, those that need to provide for
      > their <BR>
      > children and elders. What will the future of African countries be
      > like if <BR>
      > AIDS wipes out their current generation of family providers?
      > Treatment is <BR>
      > very important and its success conveys a great deal of hope that can
      > not be <BR>
      > measured in terms of money.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > The specific point that I wish to add puts the focus back on our own
      > <BR>
      > country. Public health in the United States has shuffled much of its
      > funding <BR>
      > into bioterrorism preparedness since 9/11. It can be argued that that
      > <BR>
      > funding could be better spent on issues of malnutrition in our own
      > country's <BR>
      > poor or funneled into more immunization programs, etc. I witnessed
      > the need <BR>
      > for better immunization surviellance and nutrition programs in the
      > Navajo <BR>
      > Nation right here on American soil. I think a good bit of this
      > discussion <BR>
      > centers on social justice issues. And before we decide to stop
      > funding AIDS <BR>
      > chemotherapeutic agents in Africa we might want to simply look at
      > ourselves  <BR>
      > and the justice in the way we funnel monies in our own country. I do
      > not <BR>
      > mean to imple that bioterrorism preparedness is unimportant--I just
      > think <BR>
      > its important to reflect back on ourselves and our own country when
      > it comes <BR>
      > to limiting resources and social justice.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > I welcome any thoughts on my point and hope I have explained myself
      > clearly <BR>
      > so as not to offend any one.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > Thanks for the great discussion.<BR>
      > Luz<BR>
      > <BR>
      > <BR>
      > >From: "Holland, Mark" <holland@...><BR>
      > >Reply-To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com<BR>
      > >To: "'ujeni@yahoogroups.com'"
      > <ujeni@yahoogroups.com><BR>
      > >Subject: RE: [ujeni] Forgot one thing!<BR>
      > >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:23:21 -0500<BR>
      > ><BR>
      > >Since this isn't my area at all I'm going to risk sounding
      > ignorant, but <BR>
      > >there are some great books by Paul Farmer on this topic
      > specifically.  <BR>
      > >Twice at least in the past 20 years he has launched a treatment
      > program <BR>
      > >using first-world drugs in a third-world context, first for
      > tuberculosis <BR>
      > >and now for HIV.  His thesis is that since prevention is
      > observably not <BR>
      > >working there is an obligation to move to treatment, regardless
      > of funding <BR>
      > >considerations.  If the funds are lacking, he argues, it's
      > necessary to <BR>
      > >generate them.<BR>
      > ><BR>
      > >If I'm understanding correctly each new intervention he has tried
      > has <BR>
      > >eventually shown measurable results.  Whether the model is
      > portable I don't <BR>
      > >know; perhaps his success is due primarily to his personal
      > abilities and <BR>
      > >stature.<BR>
      > ><BR>
      > >The Uses of Haiti, Tracy Kidder's biography Mountains beyond
      > Mountains, and <BR>
      > >Infections and Inequalities are all worth a read.<BR>
      > ><BR>
      > >Mark<BR>
      > <BR>
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    • Luz Huntington
      Joanna, I can t think of any references off the top of my head. I think most of what I have learned has come from a couple of radio shows I heard on KUYI Hopi
      Message 2 of 5 , Mar 12 6:41 AM
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        Joanna,
        I can't think of any references off the top of my head. I think most of what
        I have learned has come from a couple of radio shows I heard on KUYI Hopi
        Radio. I do have some colleagues I can ask and I will see if anything
        surfaces in my assigned readings this week in my American Indian Health and
        Health Care class; we are just about to start our discussion on Diabetes.

        I will keep you posted, Luz


        >From: johooper@...
        >Reply-To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
        >To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
        >Subject: RE: [ujeni] Forgot one thing! My 2 cents...
        >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:08:18 -0700
        >
        >Luz,
        >
        >You mentioned that you worked with the Navajo Nation. I am currently
        >working on a project looking at diabetes prevention among Native
        >Americans here in New Mexico. As part of my background research, I am
        >particularly interested in the food commodities programs and perhaps
        >how them impacted the local diet and changed it from the traditional
        >healthier foods to ones high in fat and high glycemic index
        >carbohydrates. Although I have heard people make reference to it, I
        >am having a hard time finding any information that documents this
        >historic event specifically in the literature searches that I have
        >done. Do you have any references or ideas as to where I could find
        >this information--for that matter, does anyone?
        >
        >Joanna
        >
        >
        >Quoting Luz Huntington <luzhunt@...>:
        >
        > > <html><body>
        > >
        > >
        > > <tt>
        > > Joanna, Scott, John and Mark,<BR>
        > > I am also a bit hesitant to contribute to this discussion but do
        > > think I <BR>
        > > have an important point to make. I really like Joanna's logical
        > > approach to <BR>
        > > monies spent on international health issues but ultimately I must
        > > side with <BR>
        > > Scott. I do feel it is extremely important to restore the health of
        > > the most <BR>
        > > productive adults in the community, those that need to provide for
        > > their <BR>
        > > children and elders. What will the future of African countries be
        > > like if <BR>
        > > AIDS wipes out their current generation of family providers?
        > > Treatment is <BR>
        > > very important and its success conveys a great deal of hope that can
        > > not be <BR>
        > > measured in terms of money.<BR>
        > > <BR>
        > > The specific point that I wish to add puts the focus back on our own
        > > <BR>
        > > country. Public health in the United States has shuffled much of its
        > > funding <BR>
        > > into bioterrorism preparedness since 9/11. It can be argued that that
        > > <BR>
        > > funding could be better spent on issues of malnutrition in our own
        > > country's <BR>
        > > poor or funneled into more immunization programs, etc. I witnessed
        > > the need <BR>
        > > for better immunization surviellance and nutrition programs in the
        > > Navajo <BR>
        > > Nation right here on American soil. I think a good bit of this
        > > discussion <BR>
        > > centers on social justice issues. And before we decide to stop
        > > funding AIDS <BR>
        > > chemotherapeutic agents in Africa we might want to simply look at
        > > ourselves  <BR>
        > > and the justice in the way we funnel monies in our own country. I do
        > > not <BR>
        > > mean to imple that bioterrorism preparedness is unimportant--I just
        > > think <BR>
        > > its important to reflect back on ourselves and our own country when
        > > it comes <BR>
        > > to limiting resources and social justice.<BR>
        > > <BR>
        > > I welcome any thoughts on my point and hope I have explained myself
        > > clearly <BR>
        > > so as not to offend any one.<BR>
        > > <BR>
        > > Thanks for the great discussion.<BR>
        > > Luz<BR>
        > > <BR>
        > > <BR>
        > > >From: "Holland, Mark" <holland@...><BR>
        > > >Reply-To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com<BR>
        > > >To: "'ujeni@yahoogroups.com'"
        > > <ujeni@yahoogroups.com><BR>
        > > >Subject: RE: [ujeni] Forgot one thing!<BR>
        > > >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:23:21 -0500<BR>
        > > ><BR>
        > > >Since this isn't my area at all I'm going to risk sounding
        > > ignorant, but <BR>
        > > >there are some great books by Paul Farmer on this topic
        > > specifically.  <BR>
        > > >Twice at least in the past 20 years he has launched a treatment
        > > program <BR>
        > > >using first-world drugs in a third-world context, first for
        > > tuberculosis <BR>
        > > >and now for HIV.  His thesis is that since prevention is
        > > observably not <BR>
        > > >working there is an obligation to move to treatment, regardless
        > > of funding <BR>
        > > >considerations.  If the funds are lacking, he argues, it's
        > > necessary to <BR>
        > > >generate them.<BR>
        > > ><BR>
        > > >If I'm understanding correctly each new intervention he has tried
        > > has <BR>
        > > >eventually shown measurable results.  Whether the model is
        > > portable I don't <BR>
        > > >know; perhaps his success is due primarily to his personal
        > > abilities and <BR>
        > > >stature.<BR>
        > > ><BR>
        > > >The Uses of Haiti, Tracy Kidder's biography Mountains beyond
        > > Mountains, and <BR>
        > > >Infections and Inequalities are all worth a read.<BR>
        > > ><BR>
        > > >Mark<BR>
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      • johooper@unm.edu
        Thanks a lot Luz! Joanna ... G ... I ... 4 ... / ... 3 ... 4 ... o
        Message 3 of 5 , Mar 12 8:02 AM
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          Thanks a lot Luz!

          Joanna

          Quoting Luz Huntington <luzhunt@...>:

          > Joanna,
          > I can't think of any references off the top of my head. I think most
          > of what
          > I have learned has come from a couple of radio shows I heard on KUYI
          > Hopi
          > Radio. I do have some colleagues I can ask and I will see if anything
          >
          > surfaces in my assigned readings this week in my American Indian
          > Health and
          > Health Care class; we are just about to start our discussion on
          > Diabetes.
          >
          > I will keep you posted, Luz
          >
          >
          > >From: johooper@...
          > >Reply-To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
          > >To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
          > >Subject: RE: [ujeni] Forgot one thing! My 2 cents...
          > >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 13:08:18 -0700
          > >
          > >Luz,
          > >
          > >You mentioned that you worked with the Navajo Nation. I am
          > currently
          > >working on a project looking at diabetes prevention among Native
          > >Americans here in New Mexico. As part of my background research, I
          > am
          > >particularly interested in the food commodities programs and
          > perhaps
          > >how them impacted the local diet and changed it from the
          > traditional
          > >healthier foods to ones high in fat and high glycemic index
          > >carbohydrates. Although I have heard people make reference to it,
          > I
          > >am having a hard time finding any information that documents this
          > >historic event specifically in the literature searches that I have
          > >done. Do you have any references or ideas as to where I could find
          > >this information--for that matter, does anyone?
          > >
          > >Joanna
          > >
          > >
          > >Quoting Luz Huntington <luzhunt@...>:
          > >
          > > > <html><body>
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > <tt>
          > > > Joanna, Scott, John and Mark,<BR>
          > > > I am also a bit hesitant to contribute to this discussion but do
          > > > think I <BR>
          > > > have an important point to make. I really like Joanna's logical
          > > > approach to <BR>
          > > > monies spent on international health issues but ultimately I
          > must
          > > > side with <BR>
          > > > Scott. I do feel it is extremely important to restore the health
          > of
          > > > the most <BR>
          > > > productive adults in the community, those that need to provide
          > for
          > > > their <BR>
          > > > children and elders. What will the future of African countries
          > be
          > > > like if <BR>
          > > > AIDS wipes out their current generation of family providers?
          > > > Treatment is <BR>
          > > > very important and its success conveys a great deal of hope that
          > can
          > > > not be <BR>
          > > > measured in terms of money.<BR>
          > > > <BR>
          > > > The specific point that I wish to add puts the focus back on our
          > own
          > > > <BR>
          > > > country. Public health in the United States has shuffled much of
          > its
          > > > funding <BR>
          > > > into bioterrorism preparedness since 9/11. It can be argued that
          > that
          > > > <BR>
          > > > funding could be better spent on issues of malnutrition in our
          > own
          > > > country's <BR>
          > > > poor or funneled into more immunization programs, etc. I
          > witnessed
          > > > the need <BR>
          > > > for better immunization surviellance and nutrition programs in
          > the
          > > > Navajo <BR>
          > > > Nation right here on American soil. I think a good bit of this
          > > > discussion <BR>
          > > > centers on social justice issues. And before we decide to stop
          > > > funding AIDS <BR>
          > > > chemotherapeutic agents in Africa we might want to simply look
          > at
          > > > ourselves  <BR>
          > > > and the justice in the way we funnel monies in our own country. I
          > do
          > > > not <BR>
          > > > mean to imple that bioterrorism preparedness is unimportant--I
          > just
          > > > think <BR>
          > > > its important to reflect back on ourselves and our own country
          > when
          > > > it comes <BR>
          > > > to limiting resources and social justice.<BR>
          > > > <BR>
          > > > I welcome any thoughts on my point and hope I have explained
          > myself
          > > > clearly <BR>
          > > > so as not to offend any one.<BR>
          > > > <BR>
          > > > Thanks for the great discussion.<BR>
          > > > Luz<BR>
          > > > <BR>
          > > > <BR>
          > > > >From: "Holland, Mark"
          > <holland@...><BR>
          > > > >Reply-To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com<BR>
          > > > >To: "'ujeni@yahoogroups.com'"
          > > > <ujeni@yahoogroups.com><BR>
          > > > >Subject: RE: [ujeni] Forgot one thing!<BR>
          > > > >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:23:21 -0500<BR>
          > > > ><BR>
          > > > >Since this isn't my area at all I'm going to risk sounding
          > > > ignorant, but <BR>
          > > > >there are some great books by Paul Farmer on this topic
          > > > specifically.  <BR>
          > > > >Twice at least in the past 20 years he has launched a
          > treatment
          > > > program <BR>
          > > > >using first-world drugs in a third-world context, first for
          > > > tuberculosis <BR>
          > > > >and now for HIV.  His thesis is that since prevention
          > is
          > > > observably not <BR>
          > > > >working there is an obligation to move to treatment,
          > regardless
          > > > of funding <BR>
          > > > >considerations.  If the funds are lacking, he argues,
          > it's
          > > > necessary to <BR>
          > > > >generate them.<BR>
          > > > ><BR>
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