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  • Paul DEVER
    Aug 5, 2005
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      Priorities, my son...priorities.....

      ----Original Message Follows----
      From: John Patten <jppatten98@...>
      Reply-To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
      To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [ujeni] Money and water
      Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 05:42:20 -0700 (PDT)

      Dude, and this is not a critique on your discourse,
      but I have to hand it to you for including in the same
      couple of paragraphs Blue Cross, Moussa Traore, your
      dog, Chibuku, Martin Luther King, Viagra, and
      selective annihilation by the police state shown live
      on CNN. You forgot to add folk music from the 1930s
      and the Crusades. Columbia is part of the drug trade,
      yes?

      But I digress, dude I'm decades away from Viagra. I'd
      rather spend the ten bucks on a couple of pints of
      Guinness. And I wish I had your health plan. I gotta
      pay 500 a month.

      If if if if if. I can't even get my agency to have the
      political will to committ to signing my request for a
      printer.

      JP

      --- Paul DEVER <pcpaul@...> wrote:

      > Every head of state should be held responsible if
      > during his/her tenure the
      > following are not provided:
      >
      > 1. Potable running water to all citizens.
      > 2. Quality education to all citizens.
      >
      > If this is done, kids wil spend less time at home
      > sick missing school, and
      > absenteeism for working parents will be less. THis
      > translates into more
      > money earned to be spent on consumer goods.
      >
      > hmmm. More money spent on goods...is this not the
      > goal of any big business?
      > Get a healthy population working to earn money to
      > buy its products???
      > Unless you are a pharmaceutical company in which
      > case it pays to keep you
      > sick...or n long term maintenance medicine.
      >
      > I pay $120 per two weeks into Blue Cross Blue Shield
      > to cover me, Gigi and
      > Kirsten Paula (can't find coverage for Whistle
      > anywhere.....). In addition
      > to that I have a co-pay when I use doctors in the
      > US.
      >
      > However, I take a medicine which costs me $35 per
      > three month supply of a
      > once weekly medicine. The other contributor to my
      > insurance (you the
      > taxpayer) pays $135 to match my $35. so there is
      > almost $14 per dose of
      > medicine. I do not think that it costs the company
      > that much to produce,
      > and even if they rationalized that they need money
      > for more research to make
      > bigger and better (and they forget to mention more
      > expensive) medicine, that
      > is what a patent is for...
      >
      > Each Viagra pill costs $10 (no John.....). The
      > Veterans Affairs pays for
      > this for servicemen who have "service-related
      > disabilities". Imagine if you
      > could make some claim that you needed this due to
      > swimming in Lake Malawi,
      > or drinking too much Chibuku or something...In
      > theory PC would have to pay
      > for that...
      >
      > But I digress...sort of. If a citizenry held its
      > elected (or not) leaders
      > to this standard they the society would develop. It
      > might cost...The Rev.
      > MLK Junior was able to foment social change by doing
      > this. SOmeone once
      > asked me the best way to change a government that
      > was not elected. I told
      > him "GO march on the presidential office", "But
      > they will shoot us", "Yes
      > they will, but the next day get more people", "But
      > some of us will
      > die"..."Yes, but then CNN will be watching...
      >
      > Paul
      >
      >
      > PS: This is how Moussa Traore fell in 1991...no, I
      > was not in Mali when I
      > gave that advice.....
      >
      >
      > ----Original Message Follows----
      > From: "Vyrle Owens" <vyrle@...>
      > Reply-To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
      > To: <ujeni@yahoogroups.com>
      > Subject: [ujeni] Money and water
      > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:17:44 -0700
      >
      > 3 August 2005
      >
      > Dear all,
      >
      >
      > It only takes money to make water run uphill (mostly
      > in California,
      > According to a book entitled "Cadillac Desert') and
      > become portable.
      >
      >
      > I noticed this interesting piece in Sojourners and
      > the New York Times:
      >
      > Thought someone might be interested:
      >
      > Thanks to Joanna for bringing up the subject and the
      > opportunity to help
      > and to John for a legitimate critique. The article
      > referenced below by
      > Tom Standage in the New York Times gives us another
      > idea of how to raise
      > the funds.
      >
      > Y'all have fun,
      >
      > Vyrle Owens
      >
      >
      > Got water?
      > $46 billion - Amount spent per year globally on
      > bottled water
      > $1.7 billion - Amount needed per year beyond current
      > spending to provide
      > clean drinking water to everyone on earth
      > More than one billion - Number of people worldwide
      > who lack reliable
      > access to safe drinking water
      > 80 - Percentage of world illnesses due to
      > water-borne diseases
      > Source: The New York Times
      >
      >
      >
      >
      http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/01/opinion/01standage.html
      >
      > August 1, 2005
      > Bad to the Last Drop
      > By TOM STANDAGE
      > London
      > IT'S summertime, and odds are that at some point
      > during your day you'll
      > reach for a nice cold bottle of water. But before
      > you do, you might want
      > to consider the results of an experiment I conducted
      > with some friends
      > one summer evening last year. On the table were 10
      > bottles of water,
      > several rows of glasses and some paper for recording
      > our impressions. We
      > were to evaluate samples from each bottle for
      > appearance, odor, flavor,
      > mouth, feel and aftertaste - and our aim was to
      > identify the interloper
      > among the famous names. One of our bottles had been
      > filled from the tap.
      > Would we spot it?
      > We worked our way through the samples, writing
      > scores for each one. None
      > of us could detect any odor, even when swilling
      > water around in large
      > wine glasses, but other differences between the
      > waters were instantly
      > apparent. Between sips, we cleansed our palates with
      > wine. (It seemed
      > only fair, since water serves the same function at a
      > wine tasting.)
      >
      > (See the reference above for the rest of the
      > article. It is about 3
      > pages.)
      >
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:ujeni@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      > John Patten
      > Sent: Tuesday, 02 August, 2005 06:56
      > To: ujeni@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [ujeni] Malawi wells, cheap, cheap!!
      >
      > Kudos to these individuals who are apparently having
      > some positive impact. A small caution though. Yes,
      > wells are indicated if there is real committment to
      > maintennance, parts, and if there is any
      > contracting,
      > reputable installers that dig more than just to the
      > water table and cap it correctly using the right
      > parts
      > and pipes. All over developing countries there are
      > thousands of empty monuments to clean water.
      >
      >
      > I'm getting boring in my old age. Good on them!
      >
      > JP
      >
      > --- Joanna Jane Hooper <johooper@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Hi Everyone,
      > >
      > > I received this message from my brother's wife's
      > > parents
      > > (Marty and Helen Wilson), who go down to Malawi
      > > every year
      > > to build wells. This year they are hoping to
      > expand
      > > their
      > > project. I thought you all might be interested
      > in
      >
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