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  • Joaquim Fernandes
    Dear list members, As I am researching since 1976 the religious kind of contactees , the seers, in the catholic tradition, I wuld loike to know if any of the
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 1, 2001
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      Dear list members,

      As I am researching since 1976 the religious kind
      of "contactees", the seers, in the catholic tradition,
      I wuld loike to know if any of the members here
      knows of modern contact (abductees, i.e.) and
      "extraordinary encounters" where the Entities
      were saw: a) apparently "talking" or emitting
      some kind of "message" to be known by the people;
      b) a kind of prophecy/message NOT to be told
      but forbiden to be spread into the world; c)
      a kind of auditive sensation felt inside the
      brain by the witness-percepient of the message
      and other sensations -words or orders not
      verbalized - also inside the head's contactee.
      I am professor of History and Anthropology
      at the University Fernando Pessoa, in Porto,
      Portugal, working on a PhD thesis on the
      ET Imaginary in the protuguese press and of
      course I am a close researcher of the
      Fatima 1917 events.
      I will apreciate all the impressions and
      any information concerning those questions
      I put here.
      Anyone can answer by my e-mail:
      jfernan@...

      Thank you very much

      Joaquim Fernandes
      CTEC
      University Fernando Pessoa
      Porto
      Portugal

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Michael [mailto:michaeli@...]
      Sent: sábado, 3 de Fevereiro de 2001 11:36
      To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: UFOnet: RE: What would ET say?


      Rich, all,

      I paused slightly last night, one because a few things
      were happening, and two, it seemed an idea to let people
      think for a while. Since then, I see a couple or more
      relevant messages have been sent in.

      I'll try to keep this short (I'm not very good at that).

      What I've got on 'ET's Message' are several things.
      Plus what I feel I'm getting direct. What I get direct is
      no big deal. It's basically what many people feel about
      the world situation. By 'no big deal' I mean that I am
      not important - but the message is. Many of us are
      getting it.

      The key one I will put here feels to be true to me.
      I believe it to be from the source I am connected with.
      The three craft which dozens of people have seen
      come out of the sea and circle Maughold headland
      here (Isle of Man, GB).... probably have the originator/s
      of this message on board. I say "originator/s" because,
      on many things, they seem to express in agreement.

      And...... don't know if you saw the craft/ufo Isle of Man
      report of about three years ago, (I think I posted it a few
      days ago), when two black, unmarked fighters chased
      and 'annoyed' the craft...... someone doesn't want us
      to make contact.


      What is said, is a continuation in ideas from, say, what
      Meier was told, and was also in the 'ET Voice-Over' TV
      message of the 1970s. Roughly: you need to be concerned
      about the direction your planet is going in. Watch out for
      pollution etc. But also about having checks on the people
      who, perhaps, have too much power, and may not be
      making decisions based on the will of the people,
      or, for the good of the people.

      There are quite a few practical reasons why I very much
      tend to trust the following message. This message was
      written to the organiser of a meeting in Wales in 1998,
      and seemed to be aimed at the people who would meet
      there. These were British people and representatives of
      the Indians of North America. I can't say for 100% that
      the following is from ET, but I believe it to be from ET.
      The ETs I'm in contact with..... and who are amazing
      the people to the north of here, when they fly there
      gentle circles around the headland there.
      And, no doubt, in connection with many
      people here in Ufonet.

      Please keep an open mind. You can understand that
      a true message from ET is not going to sound like the
      BBC or CNN news! You can make your mind up later.

      I'll just include one note here:
      where it says "ancestors",
      I take this to mean: 'ET'

      It may sound a little 'Hollywood' - or maybe it's the
      other way around. Hollywood, when it's doing a good
      job, is very like real life:

      The version I just found is set in capitals.
      I'll leave it that way:



      "THE GATHERING IS IMPORTANT. THE PLANET HAS COME TO
      A CRUCIAL TIME. EXPRESS YOUR WISHES AND TRUTHS. YOUR
      TRUTHS - THAT WHICH HUMANITY REALLY WISHES - HAVE TO
      BE EXPRESSED. THE PEOPLE AND ANCESTORS WHO WILL
      COME TOGETHER SHALL RING IN A RETURN, A TURN AROUND.

      THERE WILL COME A FLOW ON EARTH WHICH WILL BURST
      THE DARK ENERGIES SURROUNDING YOU AND YOUR PLANET.
      IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE,
      IN DIFFERENT PLACES, SHOULD TAKE PART IN THE GATHERING.

      DECIDE WHERE & WHEN & HOW TO GATHER.
      YOUR PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

      THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE BREAK WE ARE ALL
      WAITING FOR. YOU ALL ON EARTH AND OURSELVES,
      OUT HERE.

      TRUST YOUR INTUITION. THE PLANET IS IN TROUBLE.

      THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE TURN AROUND.

      RECONNECT YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN SPIRIT. TRUST
      YOUR TRUE FEELINGS. WE ARE STILL WORKING TO SPREAD
      THE ANCIENT PROPHECIES. THEY DATE DIRECTLY FROM THE
      SOURCE. THERE WERE MADE SOME AGREEMENTS WHICH
      NEED TO BE COMPLIED WITH. YOU, YOURSELF, MAY BE A PART
      OF THIS PLAN. NOW IS THE TIME FOR ACTION ON EVERY LEVEL.
      LOCAL, INTERNET, GLOBAL.

      THE PLANS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR MILLENNIA. THIS IS
      THE TIME YOU AND EARTH WILL TURN BACK TO THE ORIGINAL
      BLUEPRINT. THERE WILL BE SOULS WHO, BY THEIR PRESENCE,
      WILL NOT ONLY ACTIVATE THE LAND BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE
      WHO HAVE COME TO BE THERE. THIS IS HOW CONSCIOUSNESS
      WORKS. I TELL YOU AGAIN - YOUR PARTICIPATION IS NEEDED.

      IT IS TIME TO CHANGE LIFE ON EARTH. IT IS TIME TO START
      LIFE ON EARTH. THE NEXT TWELVE MONTHS ARE CRUCIAL.

      NOW IS THE TIME OF THE TRUTHS. IT IS TIME. TIME TO WAKE
      UP AND AWAKEN LIFE ON EARTH."



      Although, this was received/written in 1998. My ongoing
      connection to ET, is that this applies to 2001, even more
      than 1998/1999 - where it says, "the next 12 months".
      Matters are getting more crucial.



      Sounds silly?


      Well, think a minute....... with the vast array of cover-ups, lies
      and manipulations going on, on Earth, right now - how could
      ET get an important message across to us right now - without
      sounding in some way 'silly'? You may not think it's silly, but
      I just covering others' possible reactions. And bear in mind,
      just because there is a lot of twaddle on the Internet, it
      doesn't mean everything is. I have the actual, slightly rain-
      soaked, original copy of the above 'letter' from the channel
      who came to the Welsh meeting with 2 men, in August 1998.
      That meeting was called, 'The Gathering'.


      Thanks for asking.

      That was meant to be a short letter!
      I'll have to try harder.

      Michael







      Dear Michael,
      I didn't realize that you had a message to give to people. I personally
      believe you and would like to know, if you would tell me. There are people
      out here that believe & I can help spread the word!! Thanks, Rich
      RTR@...



      -----Original Message-----
      From: Michael [mailto:michaeli@...]
      Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:03 PM
      To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: UFOnet: What would ET say?


      I was wondering, this afternoon, as one does, why hardly
      anyone seems interested in finding out from me what I feel
      it is ET wants to tell us. Seemed strange to me....
      as I wandered round my flat, peeking out across the Bay
      where, according to Jean, the 12m craft comes in late at
      night..... that no-one is really interested.

      Very strange.

      I know no other person who has been several times
      within 40 feet of craft, and received subtle communication
      with them. When I say 'know' I mean acquaintance
      - or a current friend of a friend etc.

      Perhaps many of you think I'm nuts.

      It's a pity to tell the truth and be thought of as 'nuts'.


      I'd like you to think. Don't know if you've ever done this:
      Think in what way or manner you might hear an ET message
      and consider it. Have you ever done that? Perhaps nothing
      like that has ever happened to you before...... you've never
      read an ET message..... you've never heard one related on
      TV ...... and probably not 'down the pub'.

      And yet there are hundreds of craft whizzing around our
      atmosphere every day.... with people or beings inside who
      think and feel.

      What do you think their message is?

      Michael






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    • Michael
      I was wondering, this afternoon, as one does, why hardly anyone seems interested in finding out from me what I feel it is ET wants to tell us. Seemed
      Message 2 of 7 , Feb 2, 2001
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        I was wondering, this afternoon, as one does, why hardly
        anyone seems interested in finding out from me what I feel
        it is ET wants to tell us. Seemed strange to me....
        as I wandered round my flat, peeking out across the Bay
        where, according to Jean, the 12m craft comes in late at
        night..... that no-one is really interested.

        Very strange.

        I know no other person who has been several times
        within 40 feet of craft, and received subtle communication
        with them. When I say 'know' I mean acquaintance
        - or a current friend of a friend etc.

        Perhaps many of you think I'm nuts.

        It's a pity to tell the truth and be thought of as 'nuts'.


        I'd like you to think. Don't know if you've ever done this:
        Think in what way or manner you might hear an ET message
        and consider it. Have you ever done that? Perhaps nothing
        like that has ever happened to you before...... you've never
        read an ET message..... you've never heard one related on
        TV ...... and probably not 'down the pub'.

        And yet there are hundreds of craft whizzing around our
        atmosphere every day.... with people or beings inside who
        think and feel.

        What do you think their message is?

        Michael
      • Rich Racosky
        Dear Michael, I didn t realize that you had a message to give to people. I personally believe you and would like to know, if you would tell me. There are
        Message 3 of 7 , Feb 2, 2001
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          Dear Michael,
          I didn't realize that you had a message to give to people. I personally
          believe you and would like to know, if you would tell me. There are people
          out here that believe & I can help spread the word!! Thanks, Rich
          RTR@...

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Michael [mailto:michaeli@...]
          Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:03 PM
          To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: UFOnet: What would ET say?


          I was wondering, this afternoon, as one does, why hardly
          anyone seems interested in finding out from me what I feel
          it is ET wants to tell us. Seemed strange to me....
          as I wandered round my flat, peeking out across the Bay
          where, according to Jean, the 12m craft comes in late at
          night..... that no-one is really interested.

          Very strange.

          I know no other person who has been several times
          within 40 feet of craft, and received subtle communication
          with them. When I say 'know' I mean acquaintance
          - or a current friend of a friend etc.

          Perhaps many of you think I'm nuts.

          It's a pity to tell the truth and be thought of as 'nuts'.


          I'd like you to think. Don't know if you've ever done this:
          Think in what way or manner you might hear an ET message
          and consider it. Have you ever done that? Perhaps nothing
          like that has ever happened to you before...... you've never
          read an ET message..... you've never heard one related on
          TV ...... and probably not 'down the pub'.

          And yet there are hundreds of craft whizzing around our
          atmosphere every day.... with people or beings inside who
          think and feel.

          What do you think their message is?

          Michael


          UFOnet is an open, international, free news and discussion list devoted to:
          UFOs, Anomalous Phenomena, Astronomy, Skywatching, SETI, the Latest on
          Aerospace Research and Space Flight, Free & New Energy, Exoscience, etc.
          To subscribe, send a blank e-mail message to:
          ufonet-subscribe@egroups.com
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          ufonet-unsubscribe@egroups.com

          URL: http://www.ufonet.nl/(Dutch)
          Messages to the list-owner: jkumeling@...

          Word voor fl 20,- lid van de UFOnieuwsbrief. Zes maal per jaar in de echte
          brievenbus het laatste nieuws uit de ufologie, astronomie, ruimtevaart en
          aanverwante onderwerpen. Kijk op www.ufonet.nl!
        • ufobeliever2001@yahoo.com
          Hello Michael and List I am new to this list. I am a contactee and am looking for a place to talk about my concerns, thoughts and ideas. I have joined some of
          Message 4 of 7 , Feb 2, 2001
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            Hello Michael and List

            I am new to this list. I am a contactee and am looking for a place
            to talk about my concerns, thoughts and ideas.

            I have joined some of the very big list, but often am ignored..
            sometimes my post are not even posted because i'm not all "nuts and
            bolts." But that is neither here or there.

            I wanted to say that I, for one, will never think you a nut for your
            beliefs.

            About people seeing ships so often when others don't. I always
            wondered that myself. Sometimes I've seen things and pointed right
            at these things that were obviously large objects that were not
            planes and my friends say, "wow, that's a weird looking airplane". I
            guess their paradigm can't handle it.

            anyway.. talking about paradigm shifts. I saw a link to a book
            (which I'm going to get a copy of with my next paycheck) that got me
            a bit shook up. I posted to that huge list I mentioned before, but
            their moderator never saw fit to post my concerns. I hope to get
            more friendly response here.

            The book was called "The Alien Abduction Reference Guide." It says
            it's a collection of 100 et contact encounters. The table of
            contents is on the website where it's for sale (FYI
            http:www.sweetgrasspress.com ) and in it's table of contents it list
            chapters about things like experiments and stuff. But it also has a
            chapter that is about government involvement with contactees and
            something about a accounts that prove a census was taken by the
            government of all contactees.

            This really bothers me. I feel that if the government did do that,
            then it wasn't for a good reason. Being an abductee myself, I'm kind
            of paranoid I guess. Anyway. If anyone has read this book, please
            let me know what you think.

            And if you remember any kind of census I would love to hear about it.

            Well, I guess that is all I have to say for now.

            Thanks for letting me into this group.

            Susan

            --- In ufonet@y..., "Michael" <michaeli@g...> wrote:
            > I was wondering, this afternoon, as one does, why hardly
            > anyone seems interested in finding out from me what I feel
            > it is ET wants to tell us. Seemed strange to me....
            > as I wandered round my flat, peeking out across the Bay
            > where, according to Jean, the 12m craft comes in late at
            > night..... that no-one is really interested.
            >
            > Very strange.
            >
            > I know no other person who has been several times
            > within 40 feet of craft, and received subtle communication
            > with them. When I say 'know' I mean acquaintance
            > - or a current friend of a friend etc.
            >
            > Perhaps many of you think I'm nuts.
            >
            > It's a pity to tell the truth and be thought of as 'nuts'.
            >
            >
            > I'd like you to think. Don't know if you've ever done this:
            > Think in what way or manner you might hear an ET message
            > and consider it. Have you ever done that? Perhaps nothing
            > like that has ever happened to you before...... you've never
            > read an ET message..... you've never heard one related on
            > TV ...... and probably not 'down the pub'.
            >
            > And yet there are hundreds of craft whizzing around our
            > atmosphere every day.... with people or beings inside who
            > think and feel.
            >
            > What do you think their message is?
            >
            > Michael
          • Michael
            Rich, all, I paused slightly last night, one because a few things were happening, and two, it seemed an idea to let people think for a while. Since then, I
            Message 5 of 7 , Feb 3, 2001
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              Rich, all,

              I paused slightly last night, one because a few things
              were happening, and two, it seemed an idea to let people
              think for a while. Since then, I see a couple or more
              relevant messages have been sent in.

              I'll try to keep this short (I'm not very good at that).

              What I've got on 'ET's Message' are several things.
              Plus what I feel I'm getting direct. What I get direct is
              no big deal. It's basically what many people feel about
              the world situation. By 'no big deal' I mean that I am
              not important - but the message is. Many of us are
              getting it.

              The key one I will put here feels to be true to me.
              I believe it to be from the source I am connected with.
              The three craft which dozens of people have seen
              come out of the sea and circle Maughold headland
              here (Isle of Man, GB).... probably have the originator/s
              of this message on board. I say "originator/s" because,
              on many things, they seem to express in agreement.

              And...... don't know if you saw the craft/ufo Isle of Man
              report of about three years ago, (I think I posted it a few
              days ago), when two black, unmarked fighters chased
              and 'annoyed' the craft...... someone doesn't want us
              to make contact.


              What is said, is a continuation in ideas from, say, what
              Meier was told, and was also in the 'ET Voice-Over' TV
              message of the 1970s. Roughly: you need to be concerned
              about the direction your planet is going in. Watch out for
              pollution etc. But also about having checks on the people
              who, perhaps, have too much power, and may not be
              making decisions based on the will of the people,
              or, for the good of the people.

              There are quite a few practical reasons why I very much
              tend to trust the following message. This message was
              written to the organiser of a meeting in Wales in 1998,
              and seemed to be aimed at the people who would meet
              there. These were British people and representatives of
              the Indians of North America. I can't say for 100% that
              the following is from ET, but I believe it to be from ET.
              The ETs I'm in contact with..... and who are amazing
              the people to the north of here, when they fly there
              gentle circles around the headland there.
              And, no doubt, in connection with many
              people here in Ufonet.

              Please keep an open mind. You can understand that
              a true message from ET is not going to sound like the
              BBC or CNN news! You can make your mind up later.

              I'll just include one note here:
              where it says "ancestors",
              I take this to mean: 'ET'

              It may sound a little 'Hollywood' - or maybe it's the
              other way around. Hollywood, when it's doing a good
              job, is very like real life:

              The version I just found is set in capitals.
              I'll leave it that way:



              "THE GATHERING IS IMPORTANT. THE PLANET HAS COME TO
              A CRUCIAL TIME. EXPRESS YOUR WISHES AND TRUTHS. YOUR
              TRUTHS - THAT WHICH HUMANITY REALLY WISHES - HAVE TO
              BE EXPRESSED. THE PEOPLE AND ANCESTORS WHO WILL
              COME TOGETHER SHALL RING IN A RETURN, A TURN AROUND.

              THERE WILL COME A FLOW ON EARTH WHICH WILL BURST
              THE DARK ENERGIES SURROUNDING YOU AND YOUR PLANET.
              IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE,
              IN DIFFERENT PLACES, SHOULD TAKE PART IN THE GATHERING.

              DECIDE WHERE & WHEN & HOW TO GATHER.
              YOUR PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

              THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE BREAK WE ARE ALL
              WAITING FOR. YOU ALL ON EARTH AND OURSELVES,
              OUT HERE.

              TRUST YOUR INTUITION. THE PLANET IS IN TROUBLE.

              THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE TURN AROUND.

              RECONNECT YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN SPIRIT. TRUST
              YOUR TRUE FEELINGS. WE ARE STILL WORKING TO SPREAD
              THE ANCIENT PROPHECIES. THEY DATE DIRECTLY FROM THE
              SOURCE. THERE WERE MADE SOME AGREEMENTS WHICH
              NEED TO BE COMPLIED WITH. YOU, YOURSELF, MAY BE A PART
              OF THIS PLAN. NOW IS THE TIME FOR ACTION ON EVERY LEVEL.
              LOCAL, INTERNET, GLOBAL.

              THE PLANS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR MILLENNIA. THIS IS
              THE TIME YOU AND EARTH WILL TURN BACK TO THE ORIGINAL
              BLUEPRINT. THERE WILL BE SOULS WHO, BY THEIR PRESENCE,
              WILL NOT ONLY ACTIVATE THE LAND BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE
              WHO HAVE COME TO BE THERE. THIS IS HOW CONSCIOUSNESS
              WORKS. I TELL YOU AGAIN - YOUR PARTICIPATION IS NEEDED.

              IT IS TIME TO CHANGE LIFE ON EARTH. IT IS TIME TO START
              LIFE ON EARTH. THE NEXT TWELVE MONTHS ARE CRUCIAL.

              NOW IS THE TIME OF THE TRUTHS. IT IS TIME. TIME TO WAKE
              UP AND AWAKEN LIFE ON EARTH."



              Although, this was received/written in 1998. My ongoing
              connection to ET, is that this applies to 2001, even more
              than 1998/1999 - where it says, "the next 12 months".
              Matters are getting more crucial.



              Sounds silly?


              Well, think a minute....... with the vast array of cover-ups, lies
              and manipulations going on, on Earth, right now - how could
              ET get an important message across to us right now - without
              sounding in some way 'silly'? You may not think it's silly, but
              I just covering others' possible reactions. And bear in mind,
              just because there is a lot of twaddle on the Internet, it
              doesn't mean everything is. I have the actual, slightly rain-
              soaked, original copy of the above 'letter' from the channel
              who came to the Welsh meeting with 2 men, in August 1998.
              That meeting was called, 'The Gathering'.


              Thanks for asking.

              That was meant to be a short letter!
              I'll have to try harder.

              Michael







              Dear Michael,
              I didn't realize that you had a message to give to people. I personally
              believe you and would like to know, if you would tell me. There are people
              out here that believe & I can help spread the word!! Thanks, Rich
              RTR@...



              -----Original Message-----
              From: Michael [mailto:michaeli@...]
              Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:03 PM
              To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: UFOnet: What would ET say?


              I was wondering, this afternoon, as one does, why hardly
              anyone seems interested in finding out from me what I feel
              it is ET wants to tell us. Seemed strange to me....
              as I wandered round my flat, peeking out across the Bay
              where, according to Jean, the 12m craft comes in late at
              night..... that no-one is really interested.

              Very strange.

              I know no other person who has been several times
              within 40 feet of craft, and received subtle communication
              with them. When I say 'know' I mean acquaintance
              - or a current friend of a friend etc.

              Perhaps many of you think I'm nuts.

              It's a pity to tell the truth and be thought of as 'nuts'.


              I'd like you to think. Don't know if you've ever done this:
              Think in what way or manner you might hear an ET message
              and consider it. Have you ever done that? Perhaps nothing
              like that has ever happened to you before...... you've never
              read an ET message..... you've never heard one related on
              TV ...... and probably not 'down the pub'.

              And yet there are hundreds of craft whizzing around our
              atmosphere every day.... with people or beings inside who
              think and feel.

              What do you think their message is?

              Michael
            • Michael
              Hi Susan, Whoops....... I thought I was missing a mail I needed to investigate.... and just re-found yours. Looks like you see things deeply. Me too, I think.
              Message 6 of 7 , Feb 4, 2001
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                Hi Susan,

                Whoops....... I thought I was missing a mail
                I needed to investigate.... and just re-found
                yours.

                Looks like you see things deeply.

                Me too, I think. I think I also see things by just looking.
                I can't understand why so many people walk along staring
                at the pavement all the time. Several times I've seen standing
                clouds on the ends of hill lines in the Isle of Man, which
                don't move over periods of say four or five hours. The
                thing is, the two or three days I'm thinking of, there were
                steady to strong winds of 10mph, 20mph and just over,
                blowing. Logically, these clouds should have been at
                least fifty miles away after four or five hours.


                Who are you in contact with?


                << About people seeing ships so often when others don't.
                I always wondered that myself. Sometimes I've seen things
                and pointed right at these things that were obviously large
                objects that were not planes and my friends say, "wow, that's
                a weird looking airplane". I guess their paradigm can't
                handle it. >>

                I'm just talking to Bill Eatock about this sort of thing.

                A message a friend and I received was, "Nothing is as it seems".
                This felt rather like an over-statement. Then the next few weeks
                we saw some very strange things. So 'strange' we were laughing.
                One or two of them, were very like what you describe.


                << .....a chapter that is about government involvement with
                contactees and something about a accounts that prove a
                census was taken by the government of all contactees.
                This really bothers me. I feel that if the government did
                do that, then it wasn't for a good reason. >>

                Yes, I agree. I take your point.


                What would you like to talk about?


                Aside from the things you mention, which are
                relevant to so many, it feels like you have a clear
                and purposeful mind.

                Don't you think it's weird that we are all letting
                all these things happen..... the huge cover-up
                and lie etc.?

                Michael






                Hello Michael and List

                I am new to this list. I am a contactee and am looking for a place
                to talk about my concerns, thoughts and ideas.

                I have joined some of the very big list, but often am ignored..
                sometimes my post are not even posted because i'm not all "nuts and
                bolts." But that is neither here or there.

                I wanted to say that I, for one, will never think you a nut for your
                beliefs.

                About people seeing ships so often when others don't. I always
                wondered that myself. Sometimes I've seen things and pointed right
                at these things that were obviously large objects that were not
                planes and my friends say, "wow, that's a weird looking airplane". I
                guess their paradigm can't handle it.

                anyway.. talking about paradigm shifts. I saw a link to a book
                (which I'm going to get a copy of with my next paycheck) that got me
                a bit shook up. I posted to that huge list I mentioned before, but
                their moderator never saw fit to post my concerns. I hope to get
                more friendly response here.

                The book was called "The Alien Abduction Reference Guide." It says
                it's a collection of 100 et contact encounters. The table of
                contents is on the website where it's for sale (FYI
                http:www.sweetgrasspress.com ) and in it's table of contents it list
                chapters about things like experiments and stuff. But it also has a
                chapter that is about government involvement with contactees and
                something about a accounts that prove a census was taken by the
                government of all contactees.

                This really bothers me. I feel that if the government did do that,
                then it wasn't for a good reason. Being an abductee myself, I'm kind
                of paranoid I guess. Anyway. If anyone has read this book, please
                let me know what you think.

                And if you remember any kind of census I would love to hear about it.

                Well, I guess that is all I have to say for now.

                Thanks for letting me into this group.

                Susan
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