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  • Roger Anderton
    ... independent ... right ... etc. This individual who upset you, believed he had the right to censor you. How, can different belief systems be reconciled?
    Message 1 of 6 , Nov 2, 2000
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      Very interesting. I am confused about 'belief systems.' You say things like:

      > We at Horizons believe that every individual has the capacity for
      independent
      > thought. We at Horizons believe that every individual has an inherent
      right
      > to freely express their views and opinions.

      etc.

      This individual who upset you, believed he had the right to censor you.

      How, can different 'belief systems' be reconciled?

      Which 'belief system' has the right to dictate over another?





      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Bobbie Felder <jilain@...>
      To: <ufo.jilain@...>
      Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 5:19 AM
      Subject: UFOnet: And the people all said sit down....


      > The events of today have prompted this email. To those who are not
      > interested in freedom of speech, please delete this message now. You will
      > not be interested in it. To those who are interested, read on.
      >
      > I encourage everyone to listen to the Horizons Radio archive from 10/27.
      > There are some very strong statements made in support of freedom of
      speech,
      > especially in relation to the UFO field. The interview with Steve Bassett
      > is definitely worth the listen. It is, however, the subject of freedom of
      > speech and expression that this email deals with.
      >
      > One individual who is a part of the "UFO community" took it upon himself
      to
      > try to censor the type of material that we produce on Horizons Radio and
      > webcast. This individual went so far as to make multiple phone calls to
      > the manager of KREF radio in Norman, OK, today. This is the radio station
      > where our live broadcast originated. This individual went so far as to
      call
      > our sponsors and insinuate litigation would be forthcoming if they
      continued
      > their sponsorship of our Horizons program. This individual went so far as
      to
      > have his co-horts spam the manager at KREF with emails stating what
      low-life
      > caliber people they believe the Horizons staff to be.
      >
      > In the UFO and paranormal field, there is very little that is "carved in
      > stone". There is an abundance of opinion and speculation, but there is a
      > lack of solid, scientific data to support claims made. We at Horizons do
      not
      > begrudge anyone their right to make these claims. We do, however, reserve
      > our right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression when it comes to
      > these extraordinary claims. In short, we feel that our opinion is just as
      > valid as the opinion of any other. And while we will fight for the right
      of
      > others to express their opinions, so will we fight for our right to
      express
      > our opinion.
      >
      > We at Horizons believe that every individual has the capacity for
      independent
      > thought. We at Horizons believe that every individual has an inherent
      right
      > to freely express their views and opinions. Likewise, we reserve the
      right
      > to freely express our views and opinions. We reserve the right to
      question
      > any information presented as fact. We reserve the right to put forth our
      > opinion on any conclusions drawn or speculations rendered up as fact by
      > anyone making these
      > claims in a public forum, be it a written forum or a verbal one. We
      reserve
      > the right to question any data presented as scientific fact. We reserve
      the
      > right to express our opinions and viewpoints on any issue of our choosing,
      > and we welcome every individual to do the same.
      >
      > We consider any and all information presented in a printed medium,
      > including, but not limited to, the printed medium of publicly accessible
      > forums on the internet such as webpages, email lists, newsgroups, open IRC
      > chat forums, bbs and message boards, to be within the public domain and
      > therefore open to scrutiny and comment.
      >
      > We ask no one to relinquish their right to freedom of speech and open
      > expression of their beliefs, ideals, opinions, and viewpoints. Likewise,
      we
      > expect the same in return. We will not censor, nor will we be censored.
      We
      > will not give up our right to freedom of speech simply to appease the ego
      of
      > a few in a field that is fraught with innuendo, uncertainty,
      pseudo-science,
      > speculation, rumor, and fabrication.
      >
      > The above is the opinion of Horizons Radio, and it will remain so until
      such
      > time as we choose to change it. Our on-air personality, Mr. Lan Lamphere,
      will
      > express his views and opinions in his own style and with his own words.
      > Anyone wishing to make an opposing statement on air is welcome to contact
      > Horizons Radio to arrange for air time. And you may present your opposing
      > viewpoint in your own style and with your own words....within the confines
      > of FCC broadcast regulations, of course. [If you have a problem with that
      > limitation, take it up with the FCC].
      >
      > The events of today prompted this email. And the events of today have
      > solidified the staff of Horizons Radio in our quest to provide the very
      best
      > in talk radio for the UFO and paranormal arenas. And we will continue to
      do
      > that from our "skeptical believer", questioning, scrutizining point of
      view.
      >
      > Open your mind to the possibilities.......
      >
      > http://www.oklahomasky.com
      >
      > Bobbie "Jilain" Felder
      >
      > http://www.oklahomasky.com
      > IRC Undernet #horizons
      > ICQ #7524076
      >
      > ~~~And the people all said sit down....sit down, you're rocking the
      boat~~~
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > UFOnet is an open, international, free news and discussion list devoted
      to:
      > UFOs, Anomalous Phenomena, Astronomy, Skywatching, SETI, the Latest on
      > Aerospace Research and Space Flight, Free & New Energy, Exoscience, etc.
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      > ufonet-subscribe@egroups.com
      > To unsubscribe, send a blank e-mail message to:
      > ufonet-unsubscribe@egroups.com
      >
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      > Messages to the list-owner: jkumeling@...
      >
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