R: UFOnet: Re: Monsignor Corrado Balducci
- It's very difficult to contact him; he's always out of Rome...
Da: Cliff Gieseke <cliffg@...>
A: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Data: sabato 6 maggio 2000 3.05
Oggetto: UFOnet: Re: Monsignor Corrado Balducci
>Does anyone know how to contact Monsignor Corrado Balducci? I didn't haveRoman
>any luck when in Rome last year.
>- Cliff Gieseke, San Antonio, Texas
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John M. Novak" <deuce42@...>
>Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 6:51 PM
>Subject: UFOnet: Sitchin and Vatican Theologian Discuss UFO's
>> SITCHIN AND VATICAN THEOLOGIAN DISCUSS UFO's,
>> EXTRATERRESTRIALS, ANGELS, CREATION OF MAN
>> Report by Zecharia Sitchin
>> Taken from http://www.sitchin.com/
>> In what must be a historic first, a high official of the Vatican and a
>> Hebrew scholar discussed the issue of Extraterrestrials and the Creation
>> Man, and though different from each other in upbringing, background,
>> religion and methodology, nevertheless arrived at common conclusions:
>> * Yes, Extraterrestrials can and do exist on other planets
>> * Yes, they can be more advanced than us
>> * Yes, materially, Man could have been fashioned from a pre-existing
>> sentient being.
>> The Participants
>> The high Vatican official was Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a Catholic
>> theologian with impressive credentials: A member of the Curia of the
>> Catholic Church, a Prelate of the Congregation for the Evangelization ofan
>> Peoples and the Propagation of the Faith, leading exorcist of the
>> Archdiocese of Rome, a member of the Vatican's Beatification Committee,
>> expert on Demonology and the author of several books. Appointed in themade
>> Vatican to deal with the issue of UFO's and Extraterrestrials, he has
>> in recent years pronouncements indicating a tolerance of the subjects;but
>> he has never before met and had a dialogue with a Hebrew scholar, andgone
>> beyond prescribed formulations to include the touchy issue of theCreation
>> of Man.ancient
>> The Hebrew scholar was me -- Zecharia Sitchin: A researcher of ancient
>> civilizations, a biblical archaeologist, a descendant of Abraham.
>> The Monsignor and I almost met for such a dialogue last December, but it
>> not come about. This time we were scheduled to meet in Bellaria, Italy,
>> a conference whose theme was "The Mystery of Human Existence." I arrived
>> there with my wife and a score of fans from the USA, on March 31st,
>> scheduled to address the audience of over a thousand the next day. The
>> Monsignor was nowhere in sight; but he was there the next morning to hear
>> presentation. "I drove the whole night from Rome to hear you," he said.
>> Sitchin's Presentation
>> My talk, ably translated by my Italian editor Tuvia Fogel, included a
>> presentation that added a pictorial dimension to the evidence from
>> times in support of Sumerian texts, on which my eight books based theforward
>> following conclusions:
>> We are not alone -- not just in the vast universe, but in our own solar
>> system; There is one more planet in our solar system, orbiting beyond
>> but nearing Earth periodically; Advanced "Extraterrestrials" -- the
>> Sumerians called them Anunnaki, the Bible Nefilim -- started to visit our
>> planet some 450,000 years ago; And, some 300,000 years ago, they engaged
>> genetic engineering to upgrade Earth's hominids and fashion Homo sapiens,
>> the Adam. In that, they acted as Emissaries for the Universal Creator --
>> The Dialogue
>> "We have much to talk about," Msgr. Balducci said to me as he came
>> to congratulate me on my presentation; "I have great esteem for yourthe
>> scholarship," he said.
>> We returned to the hotel for lunch. Our table was surrounded in a
>> semi-circle by my American fans, intent on not missing a word of the
>> forthcoming dialogue. In the hours-long session, Msgr. Balducci outlined
>> the positions he was going to state, from a prepared text, in his talk
>> next day. While my approach was based on physical evidence, his was aspiritual
>> purely Roman Catholic theological-philosophical one, seeking the
>> aspects. Yet, our conclusions converged.of
>> Msgr. Balducci's Positions
>> ON UFO's. "There must be something in it." The hundreds and thousands
>> eyewitness reports leave no room for denying that there is a measure ofomnipotence,
>> truth in them, even allowing for optical illusions, atmospheric phenomena
>> and so on. As a Catholic theologian such witnessing cannot be dismissed.
>> "Witnessing is one way of transmitting truth, and in the case of the
>> Christian religion, we are talking about a Divine Revelation in which
>> witnessing is crucial to the credibility of our faith."
>> ON LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS: "That life may exist on other planets is
>> certainly possible... The Bible does not rule out that possibility. On
>> basis of scripture and on the basis of our knowledge of God's
>> His wisdom being limitless, we must affirm that life on other planets iswe
>> possible." Moreover, this is not only possible, but also credible and
>> probable. '"Cardinal Nicolo Cusano (1401-1464) wrote that there is not a
>> single star in the sky about which we can rule out the existence of life,
>> even if different from ours."
>> ON INTELLIGENT EXTRATERRESTRIALS: "When I talk about Extraterrestrials,
>> must think of beings who are like us -- more probably, beings moreus."
>> than us, in that their nature is an association of a material part and a
>> spiritual part, a body and a soul, although in different proportions than
>> human beings on Earth." Angels are beings who are purely spiritual,
>> of bodies, while we are made up of spirit and matter but still at a low
>> level. "It is entirely credible that in the enormous distance between
>> Angels and humans, there could be found some middle stage, that is beings
>> with a body like ours but more elevated spiritually. If such intelligent
>> beings really exist on other planets, only science will be able to prove;
>> but in spite of what some people think, we would be in a position to
>> reconcile their existence with the Redemption that Christ has brought
>> The Anunnaki and the Creation of Man
>> Well then, I asked Msgr. Balducci, does it mean that my presentation was
>> great revelation to you? We appear to agree, I said, that more advanced
>> extraterrestrials can exist, and I use science to evidence their coming
>> Earth ...I then quote the Sumerian texts that say that the Anunnakievidence,
>> who from heaven to Earth came") genetically improved an existing being on
>> Earth to create the being that the Bible calls Adam.
>> My conclusion regarding your presentation, Msgr. Balducci answered, is
>> more than anything else your whole approach is based on physical
>> it concerns itself with matter, not with spirit. This is an importantview
>> distinction, "because if this distinction is made, I can bring up the
>> of the great theologian, Professor Father Marakoff, who is still aliveand
>> is greatly respected by the Church. He formulated the hypothesis thattaking
>> God created Man and put the soul into him, perhaps what is meant is not
>> Man was created from mud or lime, but from something pre-existing, even
>> a sentient being capable of feeling and perception. So the idea of
>> pre-man or hominid and creating someone who is aware of himself is
>> that Christianity is coming around to.The key is the distinction between
>> material body and the soul granted by God."
>> >From Anunnaki to God
>> Yes, I responded to the Vatican theologian, in my writings I deal with
>> physical evidence; but already in my first book (The 12th Planet), theevolved
>> last sentence of the last paragraph raises the question: If the
>> Extraterrestrials "created" us, who created them on their planet?
>> >From this my own thinking and the contents of my subsequent books
>> toward the spiritual or "divine" aspects. The Anunnaki, I haveexplained,
>> were just emissaries (and that is what the Hebrew word Malachim,is
>> Angels, means). They thought that it was their decision to come here for
>> selfish reasons and to fashion us because they needed workers; but in
>> they only carried out the Almighty God's wishes and plans.
>> If such Extraterrestrials were so involved, Msgr. Balducci said, even by
>> your own interpretation they had to do with Man's physics, body and
>> rationality: but God alone had to do with the Soul!
>> My second book, that deals with Man's aspiration to ascend the heavens,
>> titled The Stairway to Heaven, I told Msgr, Balducci, "it seems to methat
>> we are ascending the same stairway to heaven, though from differentechte
>> I said.
>> We ended the dialogue as friends, determined to stay in touch and
>> Zecharia Sitchin can be reached by writing to:
>> P.O. Box 577, New York, NY 10185
>> Zecharia's books are available in paperback from Avon Books. Some
>> in hardcover are available from Bear & Co.
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