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  • alfredo lissoni
    It s very difficult to contact him; he s always out of Rome... Alfredo Lissoni ... Da: Cliff Gieseke A: ufonet@egroups.com
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      It's very difficult to contact him; he's always out of Rome...
      Alfredo Lissoni
      -----Messaggio originale-----
      Da: Cliff Gieseke <cliffg@...>
      A: ufonet@egroups.com <ufonet@egroups.com>
      Data: sabato 6 maggio 2000 3.05
      Oggetto: UFOnet: Re: Monsignor Corrado Balducci


      >Does anyone know how to contact Monsignor Corrado Balducci? I didn't have
      >any luck when in Rome last year.
      >
      >- Cliff Gieseke, San Antonio, Texas
      >
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: "John M. Novak" <deuce42@...>
      >To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;;>
      >Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 6:51 PM
      >Subject: UFOnet: Sitchin and Vatican Theologian Discuss UFO's
      >
      >
      >> SITCHIN AND VATICAN THEOLOGIAN DISCUSS UFO's,
      >> EXTRATERRESTRIALS, ANGELS, CREATION OF MAN
      >> Report by Zecharia Sitchin
      >> Taken from http://www.sitchin.com/
      >>
      >> In what must be a historic first, a high official of the Vatican and a
      >> Hebrew scholar discussed the issue of Extraterrestrials and the Creation
      >of
      >> Man, and though different from each other in upbringing, background,
      >> religion and methodology, nevertheless arrived at common conclusions:
      >>
      >> * Yes, Extraterrestrials can and do exist on other planets
      >> * Yes, they can be more advanced than us
      >> * Yes, materially, Man could have been fashioned from a pre-existing
      >> sentient being.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> The Participants
      >>
      >> The high Vatican official was Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a Catholic
      >> theologian with impressive credentials: A member of the Curia of the
      Roman
      >> Catholic Church, a Prelate of the Congregation for the Evangelization of
      >> Peoples and the Propagation of the Faith, leading exorcist of the
      >> Archdiocese of Rome, a member of the Vatican's Beatification Committee,
      an
      >> expert on Demonology and the author of several books. Appointed in the
      >> Vatican to deal with the issue of UFO's and Extraterrestrials, he has
      made
      >> in recent years pronouncements indicating a tolerance of the subjects;
      but
      >> he has never before met and had a dialogue with a Hebrew scholar, and
      gone
      >> beyond prescribed formulations to include the touchy issue of the
      Creation
      >> of Man.
      >>
      >> The Hebrew scholar was me -- Zecharia Sitchin: A researcher of ancient
      >> civilizations, a biblical archaeologist, a descendant of Abraham.
      >>
      >> The Monsignor and I almost met for such a dialogue last December, but it
      >did
      >> not come about. This time we were scheduled to meet in Bellaria, Italy,
      >at
      >> a conference whose theme was "The Mystery of Human Existence." I arrived
      >> there with my wife and a score of fans from the USA, on March 31st,
      >> scheduled to address the audience of over a thousand the next day. The
      >> Monsignor was nowhere in sight; but he was there the next morning to hear
      >my
      >> presentation. "I drove the whole night from Rome to hear you," he said.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Sitchin's Presentation
      >>
      >> My talk, ably translated by my Italian editor Tuvia Fogel, included a
      >slide
      >> presentation that added a pictorial dimension to the evidence from
      ancient
      >> times in support of Sumerian texts, on which my eight books based the
      >> following conclusions:
      >>
      >> We are not alone -- not just in the vast universe, but in our own solar
      >> system; There is one more planet in our solar system, orbiting beyond
      >Pluto
      >> but nearing Earth periodically; Advanced "Extraterrestrials" -- the
      >> Sumerians called them Anunnaki, the Bible Nefilim -- started to visit our
      >> planet some 450,000 years ago; And, some 300,000 years ago, they engaged
      >in
      >> genetic engineering to upgrade Earth's hominids and fashion Homo sapiens,
      >> the Adam. In that, they acted as Emissaries for the Universal Creator --
      >> God.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> The Dialogue
      >>
      >> "We have much to talk about," Msgr. Balducci said to me as he came
      forward
      >> to congratulate me on my presentation; "I have great esteem for your
      >> scholarship," he said.
      >>
      >> We returned to the hotel for lunch. Our table was surrounded in a
      >> semi-circle by my American fans, intent on not missing a word of the
      >> forthcoming dialogue. In the hours-long session, Msgr. Balducci outlined
      >> the positions he was going to state, from a prepared text, in his talk
      the
      >> next day. While my approach was based on physical evidence, his was a
      >> purely Roman Catholic theological-philosophical one, seeking the
      spiritual
      >> aspects. Yet, our conclusions converged.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Msgr. Balducci's Positions
      >>
      >> ON UFO's. "There must be something in it." The hundreds and thousands
      of
      >> eyewitness reports leave no room for denying that there is a measure of
      >> truth in them, even allowing for optical illusions, atmospheric phenomena
      >> and so on. As a Catholic theologian such witnessing cannot be dismissed.
      >> "Witnessing is one way of transmitting truth, and in the case of the
      >> Christian religion, we are talking about a Divine Revelation in which
      >> witnessing is crucial to the credibility of our faith."
      >>
      >> ON LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS: "That life may exist on other planets is
      >> certainly possible... The Bible does not rule out that possibility. On
      >the
      >> basis of scripture and on the basis of our knowledge of God's
      omnipotence,
      >> His wisdom being limitless, we must affirm that life on other planets is
      >> possible." Moreover, this is not only possible, but also credible and
      >even
      >> probable. '"Cardinal Nicolo Cusano (1401-1464) wrote that there is not a
      >> single star in the sky about which we can rule out the existence of life,
      >> even if different from ours."
      >>
      >> ON INTELLIGENT EXTRATERRESTRIALS: "When I talk about Extraterrestrials,
      we
      >> must think of beings who are like us -- more probably, beings more
      >advanced
      >> than us, in that their nature is an association of a material part and a
      >> spiritual part, a body and a soul, although in different proportions than
      >> human beings on Earth." Angels are beings who are purely spiritual,
      >devoid
      >> of bodies, while we are made up of spirit and matter but still at a low
      >> level. "It is entirely credible that in the enormous distance between
      >> Angels and humans, there could be found some middle stage, that is beings
      >> with a body like ours but more elevated spiritually. If such intelligent
      >> beings really exist on other planets, only science will be able to prove;
      >> but in spite of what some people think, we would be in a position to
      >> reconcile their existence with the Redemption that Christ has brought
      us."
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> The Anunnaki and the Creation of Man
      >>
      >> Well then, I asked Msgr. Balducci, does it mean that my presentation was
      >no
      >> great revelation to you? We appear to agree, I said, that more advanced
      >> extraterrestrials can exist, and I use science to evidence their coming
      to
      >> Earth ...I then quote the Sumerian texts that say that the Anunnaki
      >("Those
      >> who from heaven to Earth came") genetically improved an existing being on
      >> Earth to create the being that the Bible calls Adam.
      >>
      >> My conclusion regarding your presentation, Msgr. Balducci answered, is
      >that
      >> more than anything else your whole approach is based on physical
      evidence,
      >> it concerns itself with matter, not with spirit. This is an important
      >> distinction, "because if this distinction is made, I can bring up the
      view
      >> of the great theologian, Professor Father Marakoff, who is still alive
      and
      >> is greatly respected by the Church. He formulated the hypothesis that
      >when
      >> God created Man and put the soul into him, perhaps what is meant is not
      >that
      >> Man was created from mud or lime, but from something pre-existing, even
      >from
      >> a sentient being capable of feeling and perception. So the idea of
      taking
      >a
      >> pre-man or hominid and creating someone who is aware of himself is
      >something
      >> that Christianity is coming around to.The key is the distinction between
      >the
      >> material body and the soul granted by God."
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> >From Anunnaki to God
      >>
      >> Yes, I responded to the Vatican theologian, in my writings I deal with
      the
      >> physical evidence; but already in my first book (The 12th Planet), the
      >very
      >> last sentence of the last paragraph raises the question: If the
      >> Extraterrestrials "created" us, who created them on their planet?
      >>
      >> >From this my own thinking and the contents of my subsequent books
      evolved
      >> toward the spiritual or "divine" aspects. The Anunnaki, I have
      explained,
      >> were just emissaries (and that is what the Hebrew word Malachim,
      >translated
      >> Angels, means). They thought that it was their decision to come here for
      >> selfish reasons and to fashion us because they needed workers; but in
      >truth
      >> they only carried out the Almighty God's wishes and plans.
      >>
      >> If such Extraterrestrials were so involved, Msgr. Balducci said, even by
      >> your own interpretation they had to do with Man's physics, body and
      >> rationality: but God alone had to do with the Soul!
      >>
      >> My second book, that deals with Man's aspiration to ascend the heavens,
      is
      >> titled The Stairway to Heaven, I told Msgr, Balducci, "it seems to me
      that
      >> we are ascending the same stairway to heaven, though from different
      >steps,"
      >> I said.
      >>
      >> We ended the dialogue as friends, determined to stay in touch and
      >continue.
      >>
      >>
      >> Zecharia Sitchin can be reached by writing to:
      >> P.O. Box 577, New York, NY 10185
      >>
      >> Zecharia's books are available in paperback from Avon Books. Some
      >reprints
      >> in hardcover are available from Bear & Co.
      >>
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