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  • Louise Hardie
    Joan - some useless info! L ... From: Roger Anderton [mailto:R.J.Anderton@btinternet.com] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 12:03 PM To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com
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      Joan - some useless info!

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Roger Anderton [mailto:R.J.Anderton@...]
      Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 12:03 PM
      To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [UFOnet] Hitler and the Occult

      Hitler and the Occult

      This is taken from the Daily Mail Nov. 29, 2003 most of the article by James
      Hayward is boring. (And of course he is promoting his book Myths and Legends
      of the Second World War.) -----

      One of the most potent sources of Hitler myths was his supposed interest in
      astrology and the occult.

      The subject was taken seriously by the British military, as is clear from
      the minutes of a meeting of the so-called Services Consultative Committee on
      March 6, 1940.

      The meeting recorded: 'A large number of Germans are superstitious and it is
      believed that a good deal of interest is taken in astrology. There was a
      rumour that Hitler himself believes astrology, and had employed the services
      of an astrologer.

      'We suggest obtaining from a well- known astrologer a horoscope of Hitler,
      predicting disaster for him and his country and putting it into Germany by
      secret channels.'

      The idea was overtaken by the fall of France and the subsequent threat of
      invasion. But in the autumn of 1940, the Joint Committee was prepared to
      take account of astrology in attempting to predict the date of a cross-
      Channel assault.

      For the period beginning October 19, its minutes record: 'The moon and tides
      were suitable, the incidence of fog likely, and Hitler's horoscope, a sign
      to which he was reported to pay considerable attention, was favourable.'

      Anti- German astrological propaganda first emerged in the wake of the Hess
      affair, when it was hinted that the deputy Fuhrer had been misled by bogus
      zodiac predictions.

      British deception agencies began to circulate false horoscopes, as well as
      bogus quatrains supposedly by the 16th century French seer Nostradamus, all
      predicting doom for Hitler and his plans.

      Although much of this activity took the form of unavowedly 'black'
      propaganda, and was therefore unknown to the public at large, a tour of
      America undertaken by the Hungarian astrologer known as Louis de Wohl did
      much to promote the myth that Hitler was reliant on the science of the

      De Wohl, who came to Britain as a refugee in 1935, claimed he had once been
      Hitler's personal astrologer. He alleged that Hitler had been convinced of
      astrology's value by Hess while the pair were in prison after the abortive
      Nazi putsch of 1923.

      None of this seems very likely, but after war broke out de Wohl offered his
      services to British intelligence. Initially rebuffed, he was eventually
      allowed to set up his own 'Psychological Research Bureau' in an unfurnished
      suite at the Grosvenor House Hotel.

      It seems that few took seriously his claims to be able to 'predict the
      predictions' of Hitler's own tame astrologers, but in May 1941 it was
      decided to send him on a tour of the US, in part because a number of
      American astrological journals had begun to carry articles and letters
      predicting German victory.

      After a faltering start, he made a significant impact - predicting that
      Germany planned to use Brazil as a stepping stone for hostilities against
      the US, and attacking pro- German figures such as the aviator Charles

      Throughout the tour, he was accompanied by a senior figure from the Special
      Operations Executive and paid in cash by an MI6 minion who would sneak into
      his Manhattan hotel via the fire escape.

      Arrangements were also made for de Wohl's predictions to be circulated
      around various English language newspapers in Africa and the Middle East. A
      typical item appeared in a Cairo paper, warning that 'four months hence a
      red planet will appear on the eastern horizon and will indicate that a
      dangerous evil-doer, who has drenched the world in blood, will pass away.
      This means that an uncrowned emperor will be killed, and that man is

      De Wohl soon outlived his usefulness, but the astrology story lived on. In
      the years since the war, various authors have claimed that Hitler and the
      Nazis were devotees of even darker arts - notably Satanism.

      It has been alleged that evidence of these occult practices were excluded at
      the Nuremberg war crimes trials for fear that it would lead to acquittals on
      the grounds of 'diminished responsibility' or insanity.

      This claim was made by the comedian Michael Bentine, a former RAF
      Intelligence officer and keen student of the paranormal, supposedly on the
      word of Airey Neave, a member of Nuremberg's military tribunal and later a
      Tory MP.

      Neave, however, made no mention of the issue in his own Nuremberg memoir
      published in 1978. And why such an important disclosure should have been
      entrusted to Bentine, best known as one of the Goons, is obscure.

      Today, readers can choose from a whole raft of books which purport to
      establish intimate links between the Third Reich and the occult.

      Many focus on the powerful Thule Society - a mystical order that was
      supposedly the true inspiration for Nazism - or Hitler's alleged devotion to
      the cult of Wotan, the ancient pagan god of storms.

      Others concern Nazi quests for ancient relics such as the Holy Grail. One of
      the best known and most influential of these books is The Spear of Destiny
      by Trevor Ravenscroft, a writer and former commando whose interest in the
      supernatural led to contact with an Austrian historian named Walter Johannes

      Stein was an expert on the Holy Grail, as well as the so-called Spear of
      Destiny, with which a Roman centurion named Longinus was said to have
      pierced Christ's side as he hung on the cross at Golgotha.

      According to Stein, the spear was thus invested with great supernatural
      power, which enabled its owner to control the destiny of the world. A shared
      interest in the spear led Stein to a passing acquaintance with Hitler in
      Vienna between 1900 and 1913. According to Ravenscroft this allowed Stein to
      witness 'how Hitler attained higher levels of consciousness by means of
      drugs, and made a penetrating study of medieval occultism and ritual magic'.
      As a result. Stein 'knew more about the personal life of Adolf Hitler than
      any man alive.'

      A staunch opponent of Nazism, stein fled to Britain in 1933, and during the
      war supposedly acted as 'a confidential advisor to Churchill regarding the
      minds and motivation of Hitler and the leading members of the Nazi Party.'

      However, in the words of Ravenscroft, Churchill 'was insistent that the
      occultism of the Nazi Party should not under any circumstances be revealed
      to the general public.' Thus, when Stein died in 1957, he seemed to have
      taken his secrets to the grave.

      Several years later, Ravenscroft obligingly decided to publish them. His
      book made highly entertaining reading, and claimed that Hitler seized the
      magical Spear of Destiny as a 'talisman of power' following his take-over of
      Austria in 1938.

      Until that moment it had sat in the Hofburg Museum in Vienna, having passed
      through the hands of Hereward the Wake, King Athelstan, Charlemagne and the
      royal dynasty of the Hapsburgs. Hitler took it to Nuremberg, the spiritual
      capital of fascist Germany, where it remained in his possession throughout
      his Blitzkrieg victories in Poland and the West.

      It was finally recovered by US forces led by General George Patton at 2.10
      pm on April 30, 1945. With his talisman gone, Hitler committed suicide that
      same afternoon.

      For good measure, Ravenscroft's book also claimed that Hitler mastered the
      mysteries of the lost city of Atlantis and the Secret Doctrine - a mystic
      synthesis of science, religion and philosophy propounded by the founder of
      theosophy, Madame Blavatsky.

      Select members of the SS 'took oaths of irreversible allegiance to satanic
      powers', while Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS, was identified as a
      'planetary doppleganger' and an 'anti-human in a human body'.

      Without exception, these claims are nonsense. Walter Johannes Stein
      certainly existed, but is not mentioned in any substantial biography of
      Hitler or Churchill, nor in Churchill's own war memoirs.

      His death made it impossible for him to refute any of the fantastic claims
      made by Ravenscroft on his behalf - which included his alleged ability to
      capture lost moments in history through 'mind expansion'.

      [[[That alleged ability is 'time travel', probably via Remote Viewing. So,
      is Ravenscroft's book based on information from supposed time

      Crucially, the spear from the Hofburg Museum in Vienna is a medieval relic,
      and thus nowhere near as ancient as Ravenscroft would have people believe.

      [[[[There was a TV programme on about the Spear of Destiny -- parts of the
      spear are supposedly of ancient origin, may be as far back as the time of
      Jesus. The Daily Mail article fails to mention this. ]]]]

      In short, the whole story is nothing more than clap - trap -- yet somehow it
      succeeded in being taken seriously by thousands of his readers, and is now
      endlessly recycled on the internet.

      Like many of the myths surrounding Hitler, some aspects of Ravenscroft's
      stories are not just absurd but simply odious.

      For example, he claims that the Nazis performed a bizarre 'homeopathic'
      ritual in which the ashes of the spleens and other organs of young Jews were
      cast into the wind, with the aim of driving the remnants of the Jewish
      population out of Germany for ever.

      Not a shred of historical evidence exists to support this claim.

      Equally without foundation are more recent allegations that although the
      Spear of Destiny was supposedly returned to the Hofburg Museum, it is just a
      replica, with the real crucifixion lance having been whisked by U-boat to a
      base in Antarctica, where it awaits discovery by Hitler's spiritual

      The enduring power of such tall tales is testament to the world's
      fascination with the Nazis, and to the suggestive power of some of the black
      propaganda circulated by Allies in wartime.

      [[[[There are other stories that Hitler escaped and is coming back with a
      fleet of alien spaceships. One sees a strange chain of reasoning -- Hitler +
      co seemed to believe in astrology; the allies then engaged in disinformation
      using astrology; if one believes in astrology then one is susceptible to
      other occult beliefs----- eventually this line of thinking ends up with
      ideas that Hitler is in contact with aliens. Suppose for the moment that
      this Spear was real, it did not work for Hitler, as he lost the war; from
      believers in the spear's powers ---what is supposed to be the answer as to
      why it failed??]]]]

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