Fw: UFO UpDate: Re: Is Ufology Dead Or Just Dozing? - Lemire
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> From: Todd Lemire <tlemire@...>
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@...>
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 12:45:40 -0500
> Subject: Re: Is Ufology Dead Or Just Dozing?
> >From: Joe McGonagle <joe@...>
> >To: <ufoupdates@...>
> >Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:40:21 -0000
> >Subject: Is Ufology Dead Or Just Dozing?
> >Jenny Randles wrote an excellent article for EYE magazine,
> >is now up at their website at:
> >It is quite critical of ufology, but does make some
> >as to the way forward. Just to give you a taste, read the
> >following quote:
> >"So UFOlogy will never go back to the way it was. It has
> >forever, and the UFO community that once controlled what was
> >and done has lost the say in its own subject. Indeed,
> >have almost become an irrelevance - at best lumbering behind a
> >litany of advertisers,hype merchants, web site designers, and
> >sci-fi entrepreneurs."
> >So, is ufology dead, or just dozing?
> Joe and others,
> I find it interesting that this thread deals with: 'web' based
> research in all it's forms, 'web' based access to this
> the threat the 'web' poses to 'standard ufology' as some
> 'oldtimers' see it, the networking that the 'web' provides
> between researchers - both good and bad, the pros and cons of
> the lecture circuit, the quality of this 'web' based content,
> the possibility of creating an 'International Authority', and
> on.... and so on.... and so on... and scooby dooby do!, yet
> there seems to be no discussion of what I perceived to be the
> main points of Jenny's article that, "UFOlogy must go back to
> basics and treat this as a phenomenon in need of explanation,
> rather than an explanation in search of any evidence to support
> As some here agree, the 'web' is already here and will be here
> for many more years. As Jenny states in her article, "All
> UFOlogists are BECOMING part of an interacting community via
> net and this is what needs to be exploited."... "It simply
> coordination and mobilization." The key discussion in this
> thread, in my opinion, should've been, exploitation,
> coordination, and mobilization, rather than what I perceived to
> be how much of a 'threat' the web poses to 'paper and lecture'
> None on the 'lecture circuit', and very few on this list can do
> as Jenny says and ..."prove rational objectivity and a desire
> stay out of the public limelight."
> The 'web' should be, among other things, a "diagnostic tool"
> the ufologist, as Jenny suggests, which has the ability of...
> "suggesting options to be investigated during a sighting." I
> would've liked to have seen some website suggestions in this
> thread that supported this, but are there any? I can't, off the
> top of my head, think of a UFO website that _focuses_ on both
> 'investigative resources' and 'sighting reports'. Where are
> these comprehensive ufo sites that provide ready access to
> I didn't see any discussion regarding the necessary steps and
> requirements to develop such a site.
> I also didn't see any discussion of what I perceive to be an
> important part of Jenny's article, "active research... of a
> window area". Jenny states that, "We are far too passive as a
> movement - waiting for Joe Bloggs..." If not used correctly and
> in the right amounts the 'web' can be a serious detriment to
> 'proactive research' she speaks of. How many of you actually
> step away from the pc long enough to go out in the field to
> investigate a _current_ case, much less do a 'window' project?
> Not very many of us.
> There are a few good beginnings to what she speaks of as far as
> sighting databases are concerned and most here are already
> of these, but we are still lacking the "interactive community",
> the "coordination and mobilization", as well as the "diagnostic
> tools" and resources that Jenny speaks of.
> She hit the nail on the head not only as it concerns British
> ufologists but American ones as well. Some may require a
> 'spoonful of sugar' to help the medicine go down.
> Todd Lemire