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19242Re: Dulce, New Mexico Revisited - Mysteries Still Remain !!

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  • Lamont
    Apr 4, 2007
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      --- In ufonet@yahoogroups.com, "Norio Hayakawa" <groom51s4@...> wrote:
      > Dulce, New Mexico Revisited - Mysteries Still Remain!!
      > by Norio Hayakawa March 28, 2007
      > DULCE, NEW MEXICO - On Sunday, March 25, I finally arrived at
      > New Mexico once again, after more than 17 years. It was a long
      > from Los Angeles but it was definitely a worthwhile trip. The last
      > time that I was at this "mysterious" little town was in March of
      > I will never forget that 1990 visit when I first brought a Japanese
      > crew, incredible as it may sound, to document an alleged existence
      > an "underground U.S./alien joint bio-lab" which was rumored to exist
      > deep under the Archuleta Mesa, adjacent to Dulce. While
      > many Jicarilla Apache locals on the street at that visit, we were
      > inexplicably detained by the then Police Chief, Hoyt Velarde and
      > at his office for almost an hour and a half, during which time he
      > meticulously taken down our personal info, i.e., our ID's, driver's
      > licence numbers and, in my case, even my Soc. Sec. number, if I
      > correctly. It was a shock to us then. We had asked him if we were
      > doing anything illegal by interviewing the people, the question to
      > which he never responded. I clearly remember that just before he
      > released us, he told us in a rather warning tone: "Don't you ever
      > any more questions regarding such a base. I have nothing to do with
      > it and I do not want to talk about it!" An enigmatic answer,
      > That was in March of 1990.
      > Now here I am once again, in Dulce. It brought me back lots of
      > memories of 1990. However, this time, as soon as I drove in to
      > I immediately noticed that it had completely changed since 1990.
      > It seems to have grown quite a lot, not so much in terms of
      > population, but in terms of its physical appearance. There are now
      > many new buildings, large and small and many modern local community
      > facilites - a brand new Middle School, a brand new High School, a
      > new Students' Athletic Complex, brand new Police and Maintenance
      > Center, a modern Emergency Medical Service facility, and on the
      > side, a brand new Student's Residential Complex, and, of course, a
      > newly refurbished Best Western Hotel, all in the small community of
      > less than 3500 residents.
      > Yes, it has been many years, so it would seem natural for some
      > to take place. However, the question I began to think was where did
      > all the funds for all these developments come from? Certainly, not
      > just from revenue from natural resources (oil and gas) and a small
      > casino. And, especially, for such a tiny town?
      > When I interviewed the locals in 1990, I clearly remember that
      > every one of them had testified to us that in the late 70's and the
      > early 80's, they had frequently observed strange lights in the sky,
      > especially flying over and around, and even appearing to disappear
      > into the sides of the Mesa. They even testified to us that they
      > frequently observed military helicopters over Dulce, along with
      > reports of cattle mutilations in the ranches nearby. Those were the
      > things we heard back then when we were in Dulce in 1990.
      > To my great surprise, sightings still seem to continue in and around
      > Dulce, even now!!
      > Even recent sightings of what many describe as "Bigfoot" along the
      > Navajo River is also a fairly new topic of conversation in Dulce
      > I was so fortunate this time to personally get to know a friendly
      > family who lives in the northwest area of the town. I had gotten to
      > know the husband while I was attending the UFO syposium in Aztec the
      > weekend before. During my three days of stay in Dulce this time, I
      > have obtained many new, fascinating sighting reports from many
      > again, particularly from the family that I just mentioned and their
      > relatives.
      > On my second day of stay in Dulce, this family invited me to their
      > residence for a great meal. They had also invited their relatives
      > were willing to describe to me in detail many strange experiences
      > have had and even are having now.
      > It was assuring to know that the family that I befriended were
      > immediate relatives of high officials of the Jicarilla Apache
      > The husband was a son of the former head of the Police Department
      > before Hoyt Velarde). His wife is an immediate family of the head
      > the Jicarilla Apache tribal council. His sister-in-law has been a
      > Dulce Police dispatcher. For this reason, I will refrain from
      > any individuals to protect their privacy.
      > My friend's wife told me of a fairly recent incident whereby a huge,
      > silent delta-shaped dark object emitting extremely bright lights
      > slowly passed over a group of 50 to 75 (all their relatives) on a
      > where they were celebrating a traditional Jicarilla Apache feast
      > called the "coming out" feast, a "puberty" celebration for young
      > and girls (similar to the Spanish quincenera celebration). The huge
      > object appeared after sundown, an hour or so after their traditional
      > meals had ended and after the shamans had completed their chantings
      > and dances. They were simply stunned to see the huge triangular
      > 'craft' hovering only about 100 feet above the campground. The
      > area lit up like daylight. What was more amazing was that after a
      > minutes of hovering over the area, it suddenly took off with a
      > tremendous gust of wind. Pots and pans were flying all over. Some
      > the people were almost thrown off their vehicles. Fortunately, no
      > was injured. Panic spread. The generators failed to re-start and
      > battery-operated appliances malfunctioned, including the car radios.
      > Another recent incident they recounted was a daytime sighting of a
      > silver, saucer-shaped object at around 11 a.m., which hovered for 30
      > minutes right next to Hwy 537, not too far from the junction of U.S.
      > 64, north of La Jara Lake.
      > One relative also recounted a recent, unforgettable sighting of a
      > huge, flying "triangle" near Hwy 537, near J-30 (Jicrailla Road,
      > with some type of a "cloaking device" that almost appeared to have a
      > transparent body. The object was described to have been close to
      > half-a-mile in length!!
      > The biggest and most impressive sighting, however, took place in May
      > of 2004 when several families were celebrating together the feast
      on a
      > Jicarilla Apache campground, located at an area near J-33 and J-40,
      > right near the Continental Divide. Incredibly, it involved hundreds
      > (not just one or two objects) of brilliant objects in the night
      > It literally filled up the entire sky, according to the testimony of
      > the former Dulce police dispatcher. There were close to 100
      > to this incredible incident. Some even said that there were
      > close to several hundred objects in the night sky. They moved en
      > masse slowly from one end of the sky to the other. It was literally
      > an "armada" of UFOs (which exactly reminded me of the famous,
      > well-documented 1950 mass sightings of UFOs over Farmington, near
      > Four Corners ara of New Mexico).
      > What was particularly fascinating about this sighting was that
      > everyone also saw a small fleet of military helicopters which seemed
      > to follow the objects. Again, car radios went dead all through the
      > sighting.
      > An interesting point is that many of the appearances of UFOs seem to
      > coincide with various feasts taking place in the Jicarilla Apache
      > reservation. Were 'they' attracted to the Jicarilla feasts?
      > Last but not the least of the impressive Dulce sightings involved a
      > Jicarilla Apache Forerst Service ranger who witnessed a 'craft' of
      > some kind enter the east side of the Archuleta Mesa through several
      > large rocks that appeared to open (almost like a door) and in went
      > craft into the side of the mesa. He excitedly reported this
      > live on his microphone while he was communicating on his radio with
      > the Forest Service station across the south side of Dulce. The
      > was stationed at the top of the Archuleta Mesa in the look-out
      > building next to the radio communications tower. This took place a
      > few years after a big fire destroyed many of the trees on and around
      > the mesa. (What is still strange about the aftermath of the fire,
      > which they say happened about 10 years ago, is the fact that all
      > attempts for the re-forestation have so far failed on and around the
      > Archuleta Mesa. They just don't seem to grow, for some strange
      > or other.
      > What is my conclusion to all these recent sightings in Dulce? These
      > were all first-hand eyewitnesses to the events. Without doubt, I
      > cannot help but believe that they all saw what they described to
      > seen. Either that or they all believe in their minds that they
      > really saw what they said they saw. There is no other explanation.
      > Lastly, while in Dulce, the son of the former head of the Dulce
      > Department took me to the site of Project Gasbuggy. Project
      > was a rather 'strange' 1967 government project which involved a
      > underground nuclear explosion (29 kilotons of TNT) deep inside the
      > high plateau area 25 miles south of Dulce, allegedly to release
      > natural gas from deep under the ground. It was a joint project with
      > El Paso Natural Gas Company. Is it possible that the huge nuclear
      > explosion had created, deep, huge underground extensive caverns all
      > over the area along with extensive natural "tunnels"?
      > What this has to do with the ongoing sightings of not only "UFOs"
      > also alleged sightings of "entities" (including fairly recent
      > sightings of alleged 'Bigfoot' along the Navajo River near Dulce) I
      > haven't the faintest idea. We may not necessarily be talking about
      > purely physical phenomena but somehow intertwined with it could be
      > some form of mass psychological phenomenon or even some form of yet
      > unknown "interdimensional" occurrances. It's anyone's guess.
      > But, of course, we cannot rule out any prosaic answers. One theory
      > is that the town of Dulce is benefitting financially by allegedly
      > covering up the dumping of nuclear waste materials (from Los Alamos
      > and elsewhere) into the underground cavities under Dulce and its
      > neighboring areas and have created the entire Dulce "underground
      > story as a cover story!
      > Whatever the case may be, it is simply fascinating!! And it is
      > ongoing in the "mysterious" town of Dulce, New Mexico!!
      > P.S.
      > By the way, here is what I have been able to gather so far on Hoyt
      > Velarde, former Police Chief of Dulce, New Mexico - an interesting
      > background:
      > Hoyt Velarde - available public information
      > http://www.hometown.aol.com/area51watch/page8.html
      > -----
      > Norio Hayakawa
      > Area51watch@...
      > http://www.hometown.aol.com/groom51s4
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