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15693Re: [UFOnet] Secrets of the Vatican: ETs in the Bible

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  • Royce Holleman
    Oct 6, 2003
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      Hi Roger let me rephrase that I know the link between E T and the bible.I was referring to your post and the part about what the early church father did to the bible.In the post you didn't link its connection to e t for those who aren't aware.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Roger Anderton
      To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 12:48 AM
      Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Secrets of the Vatican: ETs in the Bible


      And the fallen angels is a taboo subject.

      The churchmen edited/revised the Bible so that they could gain control of
      the masses, and with that made the ET stuff taboo.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Royce Holleman" <royce412000@...>
      To: <ufonet@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 9:38 PM
      Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Secrets of the Vatican: ETs in the Bible

      > Hi Roger While this is very interesting and I have read much on the www to
      confirm it.I don't see the link to ET in the Bible. I personally believe the
      reason the early church fathers would not canonize Enoch is because he tells
      of the fallen angels in detail.
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Roger Anderton
      > To: ufonet@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:16 AM
      > Subject: [UFOnet] Secrets of the Vatican: ETs in the Bible
      > The e-mails about ETs in the Bible seem to have petered out; let's see
      if I can start it up again.
      > One of the main people who seems to have started this talk about ET s in
      the Bible is Robert Charroux. Below is a chapter from his book Lost Worlds
      written in 1971 about the Bible having been edited, revised. gospels being
      omitted, information being suppressed as secret etc.
      > Charroux claims that he sometimes gets a few things wrong, but
      essentially he is correct, and what he has is a "working hypothesis", and is
      groping for the truth. One of the basic claims is that -- If one takes into
      account the Book of Enoch and a few other gospels that have been omitted
      from the Bible, then it is much more clearer that what is being dealt with
      in these Biblical stories is ETs; but the Christian Church has tried to
      Cover this up, as much as possible.
      > He says (in 1971) that has been banished from television, radio, and the
      mass-circulation press. Hence why this sort of thing is not more widely
      talked about!
      > It offends certain religious people who don't want this interpretation
      of the Bible, and 'they' have banned the originators of these ideas (such as
      Charroux) from being able to get this out to a bigger audience for proper
      > (i.e. UFO Cover Up because of religion.)
      > The Gospels Have Been Altered
      > A considerable number of gospels appeared in the first few centuries
      after Christ. The Church regards as canonical (in conformity with the rules
      of the Church) only those of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. The oldest of
      these is Matthew, which was directly inspired by the Gospel of the Hebrews.
      > One point must be stressed: the Apocrypha. and the fifty or so Gospels
      that still exist, or existed before being destroyed. by conspiracies, are
      unanimous in acknowledging that Jesus lived in the time of Pontius Pilate
      and Tiberius, but there is no known historical document attesting to his
      real existence.
      > It has been said to be proved by the Acts of Pilate, a series of reports
      supposedly sent to Emperor Tiberius by Pontius Pilate, Procurator of Judea.,
      containing an account of Jesus's life and death, the crimes imputed to him
      by the Jews, his crucifixion, and even his resurrection. If these Acts ever
      existed, they must have been made out of whole cloth by Christians; in any
      case there is now no trace of them.
      > Many false reports, allegedly by Pilate, have been written with the same
      fraudulent intent, but none of them has been accredited by the Church.
      > No Authentic Documents
      > Although the Gospels are consistent with one another concerning the time
      when Jesus lived, there is less agreement on his acts and personality. Some
      Gospels attribute to him a doctrine and a frame of mind that are
      diametrically opposed to the accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
      Matthew and Luke are often in . sharp disagreement with Mark and John, and
      sometimes contradict themselves. The vagueness and inconsistency of the four
      canonical Gospels explains why it was once forbidden for anyone but
      churchmen to read them.
      > Authentic documents have existed; there may still be some left in the
      Vatican Library.
      > Dr M. Spencer Lewis, Imperator of the Rosicrucians, has written that we
      know that the Fathers of the Church had access to secret documents because
      in the councils of the early Church there ware references to parts of
      manuscripts and official documents dealing with the crucifixion and other
      events of Jesus's life. These documents, says Dr Lewis are now either hidden
      or destroyed, and one of the main concerns of the Church Fathers between the
      seventh and twelfth centuries was to obtain manuscripts from collections in
      eastern countries which might contain information different from the version
      of the facts that had been officially accepted by the Church.
      > John the Apostle, who became Bishop of Ephesus, is said to be the author
      of the Fourth Gospel, but it is now acknowledged that this pseudo -Gospel
      was written later by clever theologians. It is certainly not by John, and
      moreover we have no historical proof that he ever even existed.
      > A Hundred Gospels
      > Somewhere between fifty and a hundred Gospels appeared in the second and
      third centuries. Among the better- known ones are the Gospels of the
      Hebrews, the Ebionites, Matthew,
      > Mark, Luke, John, Thomas the Israelite, James the Minor Nicodemus,
      Marcion, the Nativity of Mary and the Childhood of the Saviour, the
      Childhood, the People, the Twelve Apostles, Bartholomew, Barnabas,
      Cerinthus, Peter, Basilides, Truth, Eve, Perfection, Philip, the Egyptians,
      the Gnostics of Egypt, Judas, Paul.
      > For the sake of unity; the Christian communities adopted the Gospels of
      Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John., and considered them as equally sacred and
      truthful, despite their and contradictions.
      > The Gospels, being books `inspired' by the Holy Spirit, must not, in
      theory, be criticized, suspected, or disputed, but in our time this rule has
      been greatly softened, Theologians
      > readily admit that the Gospels must be interpreted and even corrected,
      `in the right direction.'
      > To bring the different stories into agreement, the Church often modified
      or even rewrote the Scriptures. Tatian, a disciple of Justin, tried to solve
      the problem by writing the Diatessaron, a composite of the stories of
      Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

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