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    As a child in Victorville there was a snake called a side winder that had horns and was a rattle snake... So they are in the Americas ... From:
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      Subject: [ufodiscussion] Mystery Of El Fuerte

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      Mystery of El Fuerte by Gilbert de Jong Copyright 2003
      by G.J. de Jong :: All Rights Reserved :: Reprinted with permission
      Introduction Interesting facts:

      In Nazca the relation between Venus and Regulus were noticed. Every
      nearly eight year both rise heliacally above the horizon as could be watched
      on El Fuerte in Bolivia.

      The planet and the star formed the eyes of the mythical being
      (the creator god of the (pre) inca’s) as could be seen in Tiwanacu.
      The tears in the big statues seem to be no tears at all. They indicate
      movement: the rising of Regulus (in Jagua/Puma Punka) and Venus heliacally.
      That is probably why the gate of the sun has been focused on a particular
      direction and a special event. Easy to check I think:

      The being of the staff holder (Viracocha) is probably older than the
      Sumerian Ziggurats. http://www.crystalinks.com/ziggurat.html
      The ’dream’ stele is known from South America (Pre-Inca), Sumer and
      Egypt. This story seems to have crossed the Pacific and reached China,
      India, Sumer, and Egypt (between the legs of the Sphinx (The ‘Dreamstele’).

      It took Gilbert de Jong several years to solve the mystery of El Fuerte.
      (Click to enlarge)

      Author's original writings about Venuscrossings (below) offer no
      convincing matches. The (more or less) parallel rising of Regulus and Venus
      might hold the key of our creator god: time. The relation between astronomy
      and religion seems to have been based on Jaguar (Regulus in Leo) and the
      snake (Venus): the sacred symbols of the Americas and Peru.

      Gilbert de Jong has found out what triggered the Inca-empire around 1100
      AD...: The solution to this event might be very simple. Around 1100 AD the
      heliacal rising of Venus and Regulus couldn’t be watched (at El Fuerte,
      Samaipata) anymore because the rays of the sun blocked the parallel rising
      of the heavenly bodies since every eight years this ‘event’ took place about
      one day earlier.
      That is probably the reason why (pre) inca’s had ‘pachacuti’s’: the
      change of time and space. If these heliacal risings could not be watched any
      longer on the suspected time and date than find an other year when this
      event took place (maybe about three years later: check the Venus calendar).

      The Venus Crossings by Gilbert de Jong Copyright 2003 by G.J. de
      All Rights Reserved
      Reprinted with permission
      Introduction The key to the secret of many ancient
      archeological sites around the world is Venus Crossings.
      The modern astronomers do not pay attention to this event, but it is very
      likely that Phoenicians discovered it and spread the knowledge of it
      throughout the world. I have found the proof that Maya culture has been
      influenced by people from the East-Sahara or West-Asia. The ancestors of
      the Maya, the Olmecs were skilled astronomers. Their origin is most probably
      in the North-Africa or West-Asia. The two different horned viper species
      (Cerastes c. gasparetti and Cerastes c. cerastes) can only be found in
      extremely hot desserts. It seems reasonable to assume that the horned snakes
      and the Jaguar relate to a special date back in history: perhaps the double
      crossing of two Venus loops that once occurred in the zodiac sign of Leo
      Most likely this event was observed from one of the ancient Olmec centers
      in Vera Cruz (Venus + cross?). This event might be related to the start of
      the famous Maya calendar that starts on 13 august of the year 3114 B.C.
      In the image below one can find the star constellation of Leo
      (Jaguar/Balaam) rising above the horizon. The (rising) horned viper (symbol
      for Venus and for death) has been depicted in the sign of star constellation

      Fig. 1
      Copyright 2003 by G.J. de Jong

      Early Christians believed Jesus was born under the Star because the
      prophecy of Balaam
      (Num. 24:17) said the Messiah would be revealed by a regal Star which
      might be Regulus in Leo. Did Mayans in astronomical way predicted the birth
      and death of Jesus Christ?
      I will show you that the double Venus crossing that occurred above
      Bethlehem is referring to the birth, life, and death of Jesus Christ from 1
      AD on.

      Ancient Phoenicians The key to ancient civilizations is Phoenicia (or
      The recorded history of the Canaanites shows a group of coastal cities
      and forested mountains inhabited by the Canaanites, around 4000 BC. These
      early inhabitants referred to themselves according to their city of origin,
      and called their nation Canaan. They lived in the narrow East-Mediterranean
      cost and the parallel strip mountains of Lebanon. Around 2800 BC Canaanites
      traded Lebanese cedar and timber, olive oil and wine from Byblos for, as it
      is believed, metals and ivory from Egypt. Although not commonly accepted it
      might turn out that the Phoenicians ('phoinos' is a Greek word, meaning ‘red
      ’) ruled the waves far more earlier than 2000 BC.
      The most suitable starting point to begin unraveling the tangled skein
      of History for the lost threads of Origin of the Britons, Scots and
      Anglo-Saxons is from the fresh clues gained on the solid ground of the newly
      deciphered Phoenician inscriptions in Britain.
      Lawrence A. Waddell, using his new-found keys to the Lost History of the
      Aryan Race and their authorship of the World's Higher Civilization,
      concludes that the Early Britons and Scots and Anglo-Saxons have been a
      leading branch of the foremost world-pioneers of Civilization, the
      Aryan-Phoenicians: Phoenician Origin of Britons, Scots and Anglo-Saxons.
      For more information visit the website of Mr. Salim George Khalaf at
      and specifically these links:

      The Phoenician god Bel can be regarded as the planet Venus. They seem to
      have watched the rising and setting of Venus at sunrise and sunset very
      close. The snake like curves of Venus is the symbol of the snake (Naga). In
      origin it is a horned viper (horned rattlesnake) found in East-Sahara and
      West-Asia. This is important because it is a deadly snake (the horned Viper)
      also found in the Maya architecture. The Popol Vuh, the sacred book of the
      Maya, tells us the Maya culture was brought by men from the East
      (Phoenicians!). The horned viper is only native to Egypt and West-Asia and
      can not be found in the Americas.

      Fig.2a Horned Viper

      Fig.2b Horned Snake from Mayan Temple in Teotihuacan

      Fig.2c Olmec stone art with horned snake
      The Phoenicians visited Ireland and England for the metal 'tin'. They
      probably visited Peru for gold and Argentina for silver. I think
      Phoenicians, who were skilled astronomers, made the Nasca lines and the
      Zodiac and studied the 5 different curves of Venus in the morning sky (Fig.
      3 - Fig. 7). Phoenicians invented their alphabet as early as 1500 B.C. and
      introduced it to the world. The Greeks adopted the 22-letter alphabet from
      the Phoenicians which has led to the Latin letters of present day.

      Fig. 3
      Fig. 4
      Fig. 5
      Fig. 6
      Fig 7
      Fig 8

      Fig. 9
      Copyright 2003 by G.J. de Jong
      The Secret of the Phoenicians I will now reveal to you the
      secret of the Phoenicians and of the concept of life and death that has been
      spread around the world by the secret language. It will turn out to be the
      key to the start of ancient civilizations around the world.
      Venus (Bel) is visible in the morning sky for about 263 days than it
      disappears below the horizon. It can not be seen for several days (about 50)
      before you can watch Venus again in the evening sky (again for about 263
      days), than it disappears for about 8 days before it appears again as
      morning star in the east at sunrise.
      The syndic period of Venus is (average) 584 days: 263 days in the
      morning, 50 days disappearance, 263 days in the evening, and 8 days
      Than the next curve starts in a different shape as you can see on the
      first five images (the sixth is the same as the first). There is a
      periodicity of five unique curves with different shapes before it repeats.
      If you look at the point (azimuth) of first heliacal risings of Venus on the
      horizon you will notice these risings, generally, start at different points.
      The interval between two dots is 5 days and it usually rises faster than it
      If you look at curve 1 than the next time Venus rises in the same curve
      is about 8 years minus (about) two days later. Curve 2 rises again each 8
      years minus (about) two days later and so on. This is generally known by
      today astronomers and is called 'periodicity' of Venus.
      The point of helical rising (azimuth) between two Venus risings in the
      same curve change. When you study the rising of Venus you will notice that
      sometimes the direction of changing is sometimes in northern and sometimes
      in southern direction. Also the speed of Venus between two interval differ.
      The Venus table in the Mayan Dresden Codex show proof that Mayan astronomers
      noticed this also.
      Here is the secret: in order words the curves sometimes move towards
      each other and on a special day the rising of Venus (azimuth) in two
      different curves are the same! Again 8 years later the curves have crossed.
      These crosses take place in pairs (probably the origin for the word:
      double-cross) for instance curve 1 crosses curve 3 and curve 2 crosses 4. In
      Tiwanacu the double crossings take place on azimuth 70"27 and 93"34" in the
      years 634-647.

      Fig. 10 Venus 600-608 AD

      Fig. 11

      The first image shows the situation of Venus risings in 600-608. Notice
      the difference! Phoenicians seem to have watched these crossings and
      marked it with a cross because the end of the Venus crossing marks 'dead'.
      Than a new time begins (The mythical Phoenix rises again: the bird of
      As you can see the crossing in Tiwanacu is not symmetric because the green
      line is under the two crossings. I can explain it by: xxI Two crosses (x)
      before I.
      In addition there should be one place on earth set to Ixx where the
      crosses take place beneath I.
      There has been in time a symmetrical crossing when both crossings take
      place on both sides of the green line. xIx. This very special crossing
      starts on a very remarkable point and place in time: Bethlehem: the birth of
      Jesus Christ has been set to the symmetric double crossing by Phoenicians. I
      have figured out that the birth and death of Jesus Christ has been set to
      the dates that Venus reaches winter solstice in each rising. This dates (for
      instance the birth of JC on December 28 of the year 1 AD) marks in the next
      rising also the entrance of Venus in a new zodiac sign. The Zodiac is
      (delete) from the synagogue of Beth-Al in Israel and the Angels (Angle's)
      mark the 'turning of the wheel' in a new age. The death of J.C., or the old
      period, is on 26 January 8 AD when the "Y" of Aquarius is rising on the
      horizon. In astronomical way one can argue that J.C. will return when the
      next double Venus crossing as xIx might take place in 2920 years. Anthony
      Aveni (Stairways to the
      stars, Sky watching in Three Great Ancient Cultures, p.123) tells us "The
      number 2920 is an excellent candidate, because it is a whole measure of all
      three cycles-8 years of the sun, 99 months of the moon, and 5 cycles of the
      planet Venus".

      Bethlehem apparently has been chosen as biblical place of birth of a new
      age based on Venus astronomy. This is the very essence of the secret of the
      Phoenicians and who passed the Pentateuch to the Jews.
      Moses, Jesus and Nasca Something very strange was going on in Nasca in
      the early intermediate Period of Nasca 3 (just after 1 BC). Helaine
      Silverman excavated, among others, the ceremonial centre of Cahuachi near
      the famous Nasca lines. She has found several objects (pottery and clothing)
      with cross markings on it (Fig. 12) and a bowl with three almost identical
      anthropomorphic beings wearing a crown.
      A winged mythical being flying through the sky (Fig. 13) with a trophy
      head in hand (symbol for death) is drawing a line as if suggesting that
      history will be written...
      Did somebody (re)calculate an important event in history: the crossing of

      Fig. 12 Crosses on Nasca pottery.

      Fig. 13 The corps of Jezus Christ and his crown?
      Considering the fact that the behavior of Venus takes at least 16 years
      to find out in which direction and in which speed Venus risings in every one
      of the 5 heliacal risings take place one needs a perfect place where lines
      will be visible over a long period of time. The only place I know with
      excellent conditions is Nasca, which I visited in 1998. I think the three
      stone circles mark the 'conclusion' of the famous Nasca lines. I noticed
      that in probably Nasca Venus settings were watched towards the western sky
      instead of heliacal Venus risings in the east.
      In Nasca I rented a plane for one hour to make pictures from the sky of
      these three stone circles. I measured the stone-circles in the field.

      Fig. 14a

      Fig. 14b Can you see the corps of Jezus Christ and his crown?
      I think Nasca might be the place where Moses begot his laws of heaven
      and where the Phoenicians calculated the time when the double symmetrical
      Venus crossing would take place.
      Now is the time this secret will be revealed and mankind realizes that
      we all are, in fact, one and we all received the ancient astronomical
      teachings of the Phoenicians what was afterwards named 'religion'.
      This is the meaning of "these giants really knew the four quarters of
      the earth and heaven".

      Copyright 2003 by G.J. de Jong
      All Rights Reserved
      Reprinted with permission

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