RE: [ufodiscussion] Re: Boylan lost his license but so did someoneelse
- Well Alfie I think it goes a little further than that with me. When I was
young I thought everyone had their prayers answered, just knew things
because they heard the answer in their head and things like that. When I
began to realise not all were the same I thought there must be others like
me. I have only ran into one being on earth that was human that I could talk
to telepathically who could talk back to me. I do have a few now I can
remote view and ask them to call me and they will contact me but they don't
realise it on a conscious level.
From: Alfie [mailto:alfie107@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: Boylan lost his license but so did
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Regan Power" <soulsearcher_22@b...>
> Janet wrote:for a long
> "This I understand...No one describes me as normal...lol"
> Me neither, Janet. In fact, I have always been so abnormal that,
time, I thought I might be an alien. However, Karin's saying that aliens
more interest in male, rather than female sexual organs has finally laid to
particular fantasy of mine! ;-)
> Enlightenment comes in unexpected ways, I have found.
Well, maybe we should take a poll and see how many here have thought at
in their life that they were an Alien?? The thought has crossed my mind
myself that is! I couldn't understand why I always thought and felt so
the mainstream?? Maybe it has something to do with the color of the *pill*
Oh well...as I always say, it takes all kinds to make the world to go
Without us *different* ones, how would the world be entertained??
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- Hi Bill,
...it's me, and again my apologies on bringing up Digest #26, so
late in the game, but, something crossed my mind as I read it, and
thought I might post it, as the issue of "how money is made in the
UFO Field," is always timely, as it's always a growing concern for
many, just as losing money within the UFO field is a growing concern
to those who've lost.
>I keep hearing about people making a buck off the subject of UFOs.Please tell me who these people are.<
...this is how the big bucks come into play within the UFO Field -
speaking from experience (some outside of book and t.v. deals):
1. The money is offered when the UFO Phenomenon you're involved in
stands apart from all of the rest, in some form or another, with
technological advancement potential.
Example: We were once offered $115 million dollars "cash," for our
property and footage to-date of payment. The catch was, "we could
still work," within the company, but, we would no longer own it -
which meant any technological advancements discovered would belong
to those who paid the money.
The ones who were making the $115 million dollar offer were a large
...needless to say, we turned down the offer.
2. Also, the money is offered when you have valuable information to
offer that's of a massive commercial value, and that happens when
you discover certain technological advancements, have certain UFO
footage, or have something valuable to offer interview-wise...only
if you're willing to "use" what you have to "play the game." This
is where the book deals and t.v./video/dvd deals come into play. Of
course, it's a select group and to be in the select group,
they "all" have to sing the "same" tune and be "supportive" of each
other. It's a clique of sorts. They "are" the "prominent" UFO
Researchers. They party together, often sleep together, may
experiment with mushrooms together, etc., but regardless of where
the wind blows, they're "together."
Which is why when "one" of them gets discovered as a "fraud,"
several of them are caught up in the same mess, like in a domino
effect. When "one" falls, they "all" fall.
...the majority of them perpetrate frauds, and earn big money doing
it - even if the money comes from investors they've bilked, and
corrupt law enforcment officers aren't too far behind that, which is
part of the reason they don't do anything to stop their "buddies."
Example: Television shows would come here and suggest that the
members of E to the Third Power (TM) take pictures and allow
themselves to be filmed "shaking hands" with "aliens." (Alien props
and people dressed as aliens, that is...) Needless to say, we
said "no." Big bucks were being offered, but, we still said "no."
The members of E to the Third Power (TM) were divided when
the "big" "conditional" offers were coming in, because some of the
members didn't want to "sell-out," so to speak. "Conditional"
meaning there were "conditions," that had to be met, i.e., shaking
hands with alien props or people dressed as aliens.
History will show and does show, that "one" member left and today,
he's a member of the "clique." Where you "find one," you'll "find"
them "all." Listen to what "one" says, and you will have heard it
all, as they "all" say and allegedly believe the "same" thing.
They're all well connected and have friends in "high places," which
is why the money is over abundant.
3. Further, big money is offered when it's more than enough to ruin
a person, i.e. as the $50,000 that was offered to me the other day
for an interview. On the surface, it looked like "wow!" to some,
but to me, who was looking underneath the surface, it looked like a
trap that would cost me more than money, later.
I had to stop and take a look at the pros and cons of the
situation. There were "no" pros. Yes, money has to be paid in
advance prior to any project and checks have to have cleared prior
to any project, but, the person making the offer is attempting to
make himself look like he's in good standing and associated with us
and the inherent danger in that is, we'd be putting ourselves in a
position where we could be responsible for "all" that he owes, due
to fraudulent deals he's made in the past, where he's infringed upon
our footage rights, by his bilking investors; our
credibility "would" be ruined because he's flat out "lying" about
some of his UFO information/discoveries and we know it, because he's
used our footage, without permission, in the past, to do so, and
above all else, The Midway Sightings (TM) UFO Phenomenon could have
been in jeopardy when it comes to maintaining its scientific
...there was "no way," we could accept any such offer.
Could I have used the $50,000?!?!? ...sure - who couldn't?
Was I willing to let bygones by bygones for $50,000 dollars?!?!? -
...I turned down their offer, before the third-party finished the
sentence, but still, through the people, from where the offer
originated, there's an up and coming UFO fraud in the midst, and
while I don't know the name of the project or the executive
producers, I can surely say, I wouldn't be surprised if they're
infringing upon our footage rights again, someway, somehow,
attaching it to their spin on things...
...people will fall for their bull - hook, line, and sinker - buy
their videos, books, merchandise, etc., watch their t.v. show in
...why? - because most people prefer to be entertained, mostly
because they don't know any better and haven't had the opportunity
to learn or know much of anything else, and the people "running,"
the show aren't willing to let the "truth" be known, for if it were,
the majority of them would be out of business.
>I have sold my books and tapes, articles, and received speake's feesand still end up losing bucks.<
...I know it's not easy to lose money, but, be happy with your loss,
as the price that has to be paid for attaining the "big bucks," is
quite high and there's no money that can account for that.
We have the "largest" UFO Stock Footage house in the world; over 14
smaller subsidiaries that earn monies to further the continuous
monitoring, documenting, and videotaping of The Midway Sightings
(TM) UFO Phenomenon, and just the other day, "personally," we barely
were able to afford to fix our well, so that we could have "running
water," again, after having been without running water for over "six
...yes, we can earn up to $4,000 a month, but that could be after
having a "dry spell" of not earning much of anything for up to six
months... It really all depends... - and then there's the catching
up to do on the maintining of the business, which "always" comes
first, regardless of the "massive" interferences with our business
over the years and to-date.
...of course, our UFO business earns less than $10,000 a year on its
own. It "cannot" stand on its own and the majority of the financial
weight is carried by our other smaller subsidiaries/businesses,
primarily, The Gypsy Shack (TM).
...we got "hip" to the UFO Fame Game (TM) right quick, so to speak,
and we weren't willing to play it.
...the price, "we were blackballed by Hollywood," "Prominent UFO
Researchers" turned their backs on us, blah, blah, blah, you've
pretty much probably heard the rest of the story by now or read it
in my past posts...
At any rate, the price was high and more than any money could ever
We thank God we're alive, and are grateful for all that we've
learned. Our company Policies are set up in a way to "protect us
from ourselves," should we "ever" get weak and think about giving
in - some policies that have been in place since March 5, 1994, and
others that came into play as our UFO business evolved.
We realize that money isn't everything - but money does make the
world go round, which is why we don't put all of our eggs in
just "one" basket. We earn money every which "legal" way possible
to continue with the monitoring, documenting, and videotaping of The
Midway Sightings (TM) UFO Phenomenon - which is our "pearl of great
Now-a-days, whenever I feel sad or bad about what we've been
through, for consolation, I listen to Daryl Hall & John Oates'
song, "Do It For Love," and look at the 11/20/94 Flying Saucer still
clip and "I remember" that it's all for "love," of the phenomenon,
Extraterrestrial Life, Flying Saucers, and Extraterrestrial
Technology, and "all" the truths that this multi-faceted phenomenon
...we have the "truth," and we "know" it - we go to bed knowing it,
we wake up knowing it, and in the end, we remember what caused us to
set out in the manner of self-sustainment that we set out in, with
the stringent business policies that ensued - it was to "learn"
and "know" the truth...at all costs...no matter what...
By the by, in case you haven't heard or are able to hear "Do It For
Love," here's a sample of the lyrics...
"I won't do it for money
I won't do it for pride
I won't do it to please somebody else
If it don't feel right
But I'll do it for you
And at least I'll try
I don't need any other reason
Than I feel it deep inside"
- you know the history of this song is that Hall & Oates wrote it
for their love of their music, touring, and their fans.
Granted, to read the entire lyrics, you'd think it's due to a man,
singing to his love.
When it actually equates to what Hall & Oates Do for Love - their
...in the UFO Field, many of us, including yourself I'm sure, do
what we do for "love." It could stem from the first "love" we felt
when we saw our first sci-fi flying saucer movie or that star in the
night sky that moved, or our first actual daytime UFO sightings -
...but nonetheless...for love of the phenomenon...
As a side bar, if you're interested, you can give "Do It For Love,"
a "free listen" at:
...just click on "enter" and go to "multimedia" click on "audio,"
and then onto "Do It For Love."
--- In email@example.com, "Bill Hamilton"
> I keep hearing about people making a buck off the subject of UFOs.fees
> Please tell me who these people are.
> I have sold my books and tapes, articles, and received speake's
> and still end up losing bucks.someoneelse
> What is the formula for success in this field, anyway?
> I have asked other researchers how much money they make and
> they laugh. Their story sounds like my story.
> I was never interested in making money from UFO research.
> One can lose before they begin.
> One hopes to recover some expenses for time and effort.
> We try.
> I guess I am just too wrapped up in the mysteries of the
> universe and probably should look into some practical
> business for an advocation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jahnets
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [ufodiscussion] Boylan lost his license but so did
> "Are you were saying that these people were wrongfully convicted
> United States because of their beliefs??!!!"one person
> No... What people??? I have only heard many personal attacks on
> by quite a few people and where you are welcome to your opinionI didn't
> think that this site was for that. It is suppose to be fordiscussion of
> UFO's not peoples reputation. I could care less about Mr.B, it'sthe point
> you know. Anyone can be trashed, but I fail to see how this ishelping any
> of us learn more about UFO's or aliens. There are quite a fewpeople out
> there trying to make a buck off UFO's and everything else, whygive them my
> energy??? Why focus on them??? Why give them power??? You seemto be sure
> that we all believe everything we discuss here, but I don'tthink that is
> true. I am quite capable of discussing something withoutbelieving all parts
> of it. In fact let me give you an example of what I look at...The Burish
> thing had many parts to it. It also pointed out that the greysor some of
> them were working with the others. It also made mention which Inoted that I
> had missed the first time around about crystals... This was alsopointed out
> to me in another manner some time back, but around the same timeas the
> Burish stuff... Ah a pattern... See he could be full of BS asfar as I know
> which I don't but it doesn't matter... The serendipitymatters... Mr.B isn't
> part of it, and as such a wild goose chase to redirect ourfocus...But that
> is just my opinion... ;-) Did you ever read the celestineprophecies? The
> trail sherlock...managed to get
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Os Wilkes [mailto:oswilkes@n...]
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 8:14 PM
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: RE: [ufodiscussion] Boylan lost his license but so did
> >You know, I have lived almost half a century and have not
> >> myself convicted of anything, let alone cited forjaywalking. How do all
> >> these illuminaries manage it?the above
> >I wasn't aware this had turned into a gossip section... As to
> >maybe you simpley haven't stood up for the right causes.in the
> Dear Janet,
> Are you were saying that these people were wrongfully convicted
> United States because of their beliefs??!!!subject for
> In which case, how these things happen is a very appropriate
> this forum and should not be construed as gossip.were in
> I am sure you can support your inference that these individuals
> fact persecuted for their beliefs since you bothered to say whatyou did.
> Please let *us know* what *you know* so that we may make aninformed
> decision as you have done.in Los
> As for the right causes, I was a speaker at a peace rally held
> Angeles prior to the first Gulf War, and yes I was persecutedfor it
> immediately. Once, Ron Kovic shook my hand and said he washonoured to
> meet ME (and I shat a brick on the spot because I am a majornobody).
> What a lot of class he has! Anyhow...veterans
> I have been involved in Southern California peace activism and
> rights for about a quarter century minus the last ten years.This may
> sound like a contradiction to you but it is not to me. However,it made
> me extremely unpopular to love soldiers but to hate war. Gofigger.
> I did a lot of things which got me in trouble in those days.
> But I think I would have stopped short of getting naked with
> 1) children or
> 2) those who came to me for professional counseling assistance
> (And I just say no to drugs.)
> Now if you think that the reporting parties in these litigations
> lying, why don't you just say so? And then support it somehow.say the
> For some people, it is much easier to discredit the victims or
> charges were brought about by shadows and spooks-- than to admitthat
> *real people* have been hurt. That they have made *legitimateinformation
> complaints* against someone's god with feet of clay.
> In any event, I have an open mind and will welcome any
> whatsoever which may exonerate these people who have beenlabeled as
> shameless abusers of the public trust.honour. Not
> If they were wrongfully convicted, I will fight for their
> just for the sake of what is right- but to redeem my own forcasting
> aspersions on their characters.Chiapas
> So please point me in the right direction.
> P.S.- as for righteous causes, if I were not sick, I would go to
> and offer my services to Subcomandante Marcos and the Zapatistas.-----------
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