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  • Bill Hamilton
    For everyone s edification, I wrote to William Dembski, a leading light in the Intelligent Design movement about Pamela Reynold s NDE. Here is what I wrote
    Message 1 of 1 , Mar 4, 2005
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      For everyone's edification, I wrote to William Dembski, a leading light in the Intelligent Design movement
      about Pamela Reynold's NDE. Here is what I wrote and his response...

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: William A. Dembski
      To: Bill Hamilton
      Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:49 AM
      Subject: Re: Beyond the Brain

      Dear Bill,

      Thanks for this kind note and for sharing with me the case of Pam Reynolds -- remarkable! It points to a much richer reality than allowed by scientific materialism.

      Best regards,

      At 02:55 PM 3/2/2005, you wrote:

      Dr. Dembski,

      Your article on Human Origins is delightful. I am passing on a copy
      to a friend.

      I read the book Prodigal Genius about William James Sidis and found
      it fascinating.

      In regards to naturalism and the exclusion of non-material sources of
      mind, I find one story of particular interest that comes from the Near-Death
      Experience literature.

      The case of Pam Reynolds:

      Dr. Michael Sabom is a cardiologist whose latest book, Light and Death, includes a detailed medical and scientific analysis of an amazing near-death experience of a woman named Pam Reynolds. She underwent a rare operation to remove a giant basilar artery aneurysm in her brain that threatened her life. The size and location of the aneurysm, however, precluded its safe removal using the standard neuro-surgical techniques. She was referred to a doctor who had pioneered a daring surgical procedure known as hypothermic cardiac arrest. It allowed Pam's aneurysm to be excised with a reasonable chance of success. This operation, nicknamed "standstill" by the doctors who perform it, required that Pam's body temperature be lowered to 60 degrees, her heartbeat and breathing stopped, her brain waves flattened, and the blood drained from her head. In everyday terms, she was put to death. After removing the aneurysm, she was restored to life. During the time that Pam was in standstill, she experienced a NDE. Her remarkably detailed veridical out-of-body observations during her surgery were later verified to be very accurate. This case is considered to be one of the strongest cases of veridical evidence in NDE research because of her ability to describe the unique surgical instruments and procedures used and her ability to describe in detail these events while she was clinically and brain dead.

      Figure 1: The Midas Rex bone saw in the hand of a surgeon. This was the surgeon's tool Pam Reynolds saw while out of her body.

      When all of Pam's vital signs were stopped, the doctor turned on a surgical saw and began to cut through Pam's skull. While this was going on, Pam reported that she felt herself "pop" outside her body and hover above the operating table. Then she watched the doctors working on her lifeless body for awhile. From her out-of-body position, she observed the doctor sawing into her skull with what looked to her like an electric toothbrush. Pam heard and reported later what the nurses in the operating room had said and exactly what was happening during the operation. At this time, every monitor attached to Pam's body registered "no life" whatsoever. At some point, Pam's consciousness floated out of the operating room and traveled down a tunnel which had a light at the end of it where her deceased relatives and friends were waiting including her long-dead grandmother. Pam's NDE ended when her deceased uncle led her back to her body for her to reentered it.

      More of her story at: http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence01.html

      Your welcome to comment.


      Bill Hamilton
      AstroScience Research Network
      "I don't see the logic of rejecting data just because they seem incredible." Fred Hoyle

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