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  • nathaniel x vance
    Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!  Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on purpose by the rulers of darkness to
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      Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!
       Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on purpose by the rulers of darkness to hide the real reason for planet earth climate-change?
      But Why?
      The simple answer is hell yeah, and here is the real reason why!

      CNN  Mr. Jack Cafferty chimes suggesting that Climate Change is NOT caused by CO2 emissions!
      ______________________________________________________________
      Al Gore called global warming "An Inconvenient Truth"... but suddenly a lot of people are asking what the truth really is. It's been dubbed ClimateGate.<http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/02/has-scientific-community-has-been-honest-about-global-warming/ >  CNN: caffertyfile,  Has scientific community been honest about global warming?


      ZetaTalk: When Lies Fail  [written Feb 17, 2006]
      When the cover-ups on the alien presence and the approach of Planet X first started, back in the days of Roswell, this was to be primarily supression of information, along with some fear inducing disinformation to keep people from pursuing the matter. UFO's were routinely called swamp gas and weather balloons, and the CIA spread rumors of aliens in underground chambers eating human body parts floating in vats. This involved NASA air brushing UFO's out of photos, suppression of real UFO sightings in the news, project Blue Book, government sponsored skeptics prominent in the media, and faked eye witness reports. This is still the mode today, almost 60 years later, though the mechanisms have failed. They were overrun with genuine reports of contactee experiences, many using the Internet to spread the word, and mass sightings where thousands would view a UFO blitz, simultaneously, so the news seeped past the media suppression, forcing the media to address
      the issue to avoid the appearance of a controlled suppression. What is to be learned from the breakdown of the cover-up on the alien presence? Sheer volume of information, truth, overruns and counters a cover-up and disinformation.
      How might this apply to the cover-up on Planet X? Unlike the alien presence, which was palpable at the time of Roswell, presenting itself with crashed ships and alien bodies and front page news coverage, Planet X was not expected to become an issue for decades. They had time. Thus, the cover-up has not yet broken down by the sheer volumn of information, or truth countering disinformation, but this process is evident. The plan was to claim and blame an erratic Sun for magnetic irregularities, asteroid swarms to explain the increase in fireballs, global warming to explain the melting glaciers and poles, and periodic climate change to cover weather irregularities. Since panic in the public could be assumed to be a national security threat, coercing the media and scientists and those in the know to cooperate with the cover-up was simply a matter of imposing a nation security oath on anyone needed to cooperate. But they did not know what to expect, nor could
      they imagine what to expect, and thus there are holes in the plan. Lies come with many faces.
      More at: <http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta262.htm>


      The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
      salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee



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    • masanga@talktalk.net
      You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are ALL KNOWING ????
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        "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
        heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are

        'ALL KNOWING'????
        Please give your link."

        I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
        to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or about
        the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
        referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
        supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and communication
        with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all and
        knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
        unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
        all-knowing. Isn't that correct?

        I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.

        Regan


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: broali4x
        To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
        Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
        Sun, or PX?





        You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
        heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are

        "ALL KNOWING"????
        Please give your link.

        --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
        >
        > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
        > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
        answer
        > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
        which you
        > gave us (see below).
        >
        > Regan
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: nathaniel x vance
        > To: dr.ibrahim@...
        > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
        > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
        The
        > Sun, or PX?
        >
        >
        >
        > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
        > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
        portraying,
        > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
        > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
        clamoring
        > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
        case?
        > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
        screeching
        > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
        > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in some
        > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
        supposed
        > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
        the
        > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be next?
        > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
        explanation,
        > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
        the
        > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
        so-call CLIMATE
        > CHANGE?
        > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
        present earth
        > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka Planet
        X!
        >
        > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
        <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
        > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate". Thousands
        of
        > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
        rigged,
        > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
        story
        > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
        > -
        > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
        not the cause
        > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to explain
        many
        > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
        and the
        > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
        was
        > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
        establishment are
        > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
        pass at
        > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic in
        the
        > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
        control to
        > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
        > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
        is
        > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
        line,
        > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
        has
        > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and not
        sure
        > how
        > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might be,
        if
        > excuses can suffice.
        > *
        > _________________________________________________
        > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
        >
        > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
        on
        > Climategate in Chicago
        > -
        > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
        > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
        “HIDE�
        > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
        > -
        >
        <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
        -scientists-disagree/>
        > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
        disagree that global
        > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
        > Â -
        > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
        petition
        > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
        >
        > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
        > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
      • masanga@talktalk.net
        I don t know if this was supposed to be an answer to my question How is Planet X supposed to be the real cause of climate change? but it isn t one. Am I
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          I don't know if this was supposed to be an answer to my question
          "How is Planet X supposed to be the real cause of climate change?" but it
          isn't one. Am I supposed to simply take the Zeta's word for it on blind
          trust? Sorry, but that's not going to happen.

          Climategate may have shown that the man-made global warming argument
          is scientifically fraudulent but it has not proven, or even suggested, or
          obliquely, tentatively implied anything at all about Planet X. So I ask
          again:

          How is Planet X supposed to be causing climate change?

          Regan


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: nathaniel x vance
          To: dr.ibrahim@...
          Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:05 AM
          Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
          Sun, or PX?



          Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!
          Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on
          purpose by the rulers of darkness to hide the real reason for planet earth
          climate-change?
          But Why?
          The simple answer is hell yeah, and here is the real reason why!

          CNN Mr. Jack Cafferty chimes suggesting that Climate Change is NOT caused
          by CO2 emissions!
          __________________________________________________________
          Al Gore called global warming "An Inconvenient Truth"... but suddenly a lot
          of people are asking what the truth really is. It's been dubbed
          ClimateGate.<http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/02/has-scientific-community-has-been-honest-about-global-warming/
          > CNN: caffertyfile, Has scientific community been honest about global
          warming?

          ZetaTalk: When Lies Fail [written Feb 17, 2006]
          When the cover-ups on the alien presence and the approach of Planet X first
          started, back in the days of Roswell, this was to be primarily supression of
          information, along with some fear inducing disinformation to keep people
          from pursuing the matter. UFO's were routinely called swamp gas and weather
          balloons, and the CIA spread rumors of aliens in underground chambers eating
          human body parts floating in vats. This involved NASA air brushing UFO's out
          of photos, suppression of real UFO sightings in the news, project Blue Book,
          government sponsored skeptics prominent in the media, and faked eye witness
          reports. This is still the mode today, almost 60 years later, though the
          mechanisms have failed. They were overrun with genuine reports of contactee
          experiences, many using the Internet to spread the word, and mass sightings
          where thousands would view a UFO blitz, simultaneously, so the news seeped
          past the media suppression, forcing the media to address
          the issue to avoid the appearance of a controlled suppression. What is to be
          learned from the breakdown of the cover-up on the alien presence? Sheer
          volume of information, truth, overruns and counters a cover-up and
          disinformation.
          How might this apply to the cover-up on Planet X? Unlike the alien presence,
          which was palpable at the time of Roswell, presenting itself with crashed
          ships and alien bodies and front page news coverage, Planet X was not
          expected to become an issue for decades. They had time. Thus, the cover-up
          has not yet broken down by the sheer volumn of information, or truth
          countering disinformation, but this process is evident. The plan was to
          claim and blame an erratic Sun for magnetic irregularities, asteroid swarms
          to explain the increase in fireballs, global warming to explain the melting
          glaciers and poles, and periodic climate change to cover weather
          irregularities. Since panic in the public could be assumed to be a national
          security threat, coercing the media and scientists and those in the know to
          cooperate with the cover-up was simply a matter of imposing a nation
          security oath on anyone needed to cooperate. But they did not know what to
          expect, nor could
          they imagine what to expect, and thus there are holes in the plan. Lies come
          with many faces.
          More at: <http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta262.htm>

          The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
          salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
        • broali4x
          Please sir massa, All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
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            Please sir massa,
            All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
            where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or alledge
            that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
            If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
            You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!



            --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
            >
            > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
            > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
            >
            > 'ALL KNOWING'????
            > Please give your link."
            >
            > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
            > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or
            about
            > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
            > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
            > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
            communication
            > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
            and
            > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
            > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
            > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
            >
            > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
            >
            > Regan
            >
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: broali4x
            > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
            > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
            CO2, The
            > Sun, or PX?
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
            > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
            >
            > "ALL KNOWING"????
            > Please give your link.
            >
            > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
            > >
            > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
            > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
            > answer
            > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
            > which you
            > > gave us (see below).
            > >
            > > Regan
            > >
            > >
            > > ----- Original Message -----
            > > From: nathaniel x vance
            > > To: dr.ibrahim@
            > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
            > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
            > The
            > > Sun, or PX?
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
            > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
            > portraying,
            > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
            > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
            > clamoring
            > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
            > case?
            > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
            > screeching
            > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
            > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
            some
            > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
            > supposed
            > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
            > the
            > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
            next?
            > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
            > explanation,
            > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
            > the
            > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
            > so-call CLIMATE
            > > CHANGE?
            > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
            > present earth
            > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
            Planet
            > X!
            > >
            > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
            > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
            > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
            Thousands
            > of
            > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
            > rigged,
            > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
            > story
            > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
            > > -
            > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
            > not the cause
            > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
            explain
            > many
            > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
            > and the
            > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
            > was
            > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
            > establishment are
            > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
            > pass at
            > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
            in
            > the
            > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
            > control to
            > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
            > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
            > is
            > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
            > line,
            > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
            > has
            > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
            not
            > sure
            > > how
            > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
            be,
            > if
            > > excuses can suffice.
            > > *
            > > _________________________________________________
            > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
            > >
            > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
            > on
            > > Climategate in Chicago
            > > -
            > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
            > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
            > “HIDE”
            > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
            > > -
            > >
            >
            <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
            \
            > -scientists-disagree/>
            > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
            > disagree that global
            > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
            > > Â -
            > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
            > petition
            > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
            > >
            > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
            > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
            >




            [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          • masanga@talktalk.net
            I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you cannot read plain English I m afraid that is not my fault and you have no grounds to accuse
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              I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
              cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have no
              grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.

              In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
              you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.

              Regan


              ----- Original Message -----
              From: broali4x
              To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
              Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
              Sun, or PX?




              Please sir massa,
              All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
              where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or alledge
              that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
              If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
              You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!

              --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
              >
              > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
              > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
              >
              > 'ALL KNOWING'????
              > Please give your link."
              >
              > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
              > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or
              about
              > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
              > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
              > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
              communication
              > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
              and
              > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
              > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
              > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
              >
              > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
              >
              > Regan
              >
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: broali4x
              > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
              > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
              CO2, The
              > Sun, or PX?
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
              > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
              >
              > "ALL KNOWING"????
              > Please give your link.
              >
              > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
              > >
              > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
              > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
              > answer
              > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
              > which you
              > > gave us (see below).
              > >
              > > Regan
              > >
              > >
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > From: nathaniel x vance
              > > To: dr.ibrahim@
              > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
              > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
              > The
              > > Sun, or PX?
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
              > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
              > portraying,
              > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
              > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
              > clamoring
              > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
              > case?
              > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
              > screeching
              > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
              > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
              some
              > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
              > supposed
              > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
              > the
              > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
              next?
              > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
              > explanation,
              > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
              > the
              > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
              > so-call CLIMATE
              > > CHANGE?
              > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
              > present earth
              > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
              Planet
              > X!
              > >
              > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
              > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
              > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
              Thousands
              > of
              > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
              > rigged,
              > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
              > story
              > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
              > > -
              > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
              > not the cause
              > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
              explain
              > many
              > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
              > and the
              > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
              > was
              > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
              > establishment are
              > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
              > pass at
              > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
              in
              > the
              > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
              > control to
              > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
              > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
              > is
              > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
              > line,
              > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
              > has
              > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
              not
              > sure
              > > how
              > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
              be,
              > if
              > > excuses can suffice.
              > > *
              > > _________________________________________________
              > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
              > >
              > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
              > on
              > > Climategate in Chicago
              > > -
              > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
              > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
              > “HIDE�
              > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
              > > -
              > >
              >
              <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
              \
              > -scientists-disagree/>
              > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
              > disagree that global
              > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
              > > Â -
              > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
              > petition
              > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
              > >
              > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
              > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
            • broali4x
              Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
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                Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.

                --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                >
                > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have
                no
                > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                >
                > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                >
                > Regan
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: broali4x
                > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                CO2, The
                > Sun, or PX?
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Please sir massa,
                > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                alledge
                > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                >
                > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                > >
                > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                you
                > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                are
                > >
                > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                > > Please give your link."
                > >
                > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards,
                or
                > about
                > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                are
                > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                > communication
                > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                > and
                > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                > >
                > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                > >
                > > Regan
                > >
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: broali4x
                > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                > CO2, The
                > > Sun, or PX?
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                are
                > >
                > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                > > Please give your link.
                > >
                > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                > > >
                > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X
                is
                > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                their
                > > answer
                > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                > > which you
                > > > gave us (see below).
                > > >
                > > > Regan
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                CO2,
                > > The
                > > > Sun, or PX?
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                > > portraying,
                > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                > > clamoring
                > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                > > case?
                > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                > > screeching
                > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                > some
                > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                > > supposed
                > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                all
                > > the
                > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                > next?
                > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                > > explanation,
                > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                find
                > > the
                > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                > > so-call CLIMATE
                > > > CHANGE?
                > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                > > present earth
                > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                > Planet
                > > X!
                > > >
                > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                > Thousands
                > > of
                > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                > > rigged,
                > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                the
                > > story
                > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                > > > -
                > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                is
                > > not the cause
                > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                > explain
                > > many
                > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                media
                > > and the
                > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                Warming
                > > was
                > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                > > establishment are
                > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                > > pass at
                > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                > in
                > > the
                > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                > > control to
                > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                Bush,
                > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                media
                > > is
                > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                the
                > > line,
                > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                leak
                > > has
                > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                > not
                > > sure
                > > > how
                > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                > be,
                > > if
                > > > excuses can suffice.
                > > > *
                > > > _________________________________________________
                > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                > > >
                > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                confronted
                > > on
                > > > Climategate in Chicago
                > > > -
                > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                Climate
                > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                > > “HIDE”
                > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                > > > -
                > > >
                > >
                >
                <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                \
                > \
                > > -scientists-disagree/>
                > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                > > disagree that global
                > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                > > > Â -
                > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                > > petition
                > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                > > >
                > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                >




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              • masanga@talktalk.net
                Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
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                  "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                  you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                  <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                  <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"

                  Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin and
                  cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of how
                  Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.

                  Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept that
                  their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is true!

                  You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing climate
                  change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                  referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                  Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?

                  "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir."

                  No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would they?
                  I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using the
                  literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing Zeta",
                  meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they really
                  are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?

                  I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                  change on earth at the present time.

                  Regan


                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: broali4x
                  To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                  Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                  Sun, or PX?





                  Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                  you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                  <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                  <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                  By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.

                  --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                  > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have
                  no
                  > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                  >
                  > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                  > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                  >
                  > Regan
                  >
                  >
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: broali4x
                  > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                  > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                  CO2, The
                  > Sun, or PX?
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Please sir massa,
                  > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                  > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                  alledge
                  > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                  > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                  > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                  >
                  > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                  > >
                  > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                  you
                  > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                  are
                  > >
                  > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                  > > Please give your link."
                  > >
                  > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                  > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards,
                  or
                  > about
                  > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                  > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                  are
                  > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                  > communication
                  > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                  > and
                  > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                  > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                  > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                  > >
                  > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                  > >
                  > > Regan
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > From: broali4x
                  > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                  > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                  > CO2, The
                  > > Sun, or PX?
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                  > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                  are
                  > >
                  > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                  > > Please give your link.
                  > >
                  > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X
                  is
                  > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                  their
                  > > answer
                  > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                  > > which you
                  > > > gave us (see below).
                  > > >
                  > > > Regan
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                  > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                  > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                  > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                  CO2,
                  > > The
                  > > > Sun, or PX?
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                  > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                  > > portraying,
                  > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                  > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                  > > clamoring
                  > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                  > > case?
                  > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                  > > screeching
                  > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                  > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                  > some
                  > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                  > > supposed
                  > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                  all
                  > > the
                  > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                  > next?
                  > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                  > > explanation,
                  > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                  find
                  > > the
                  > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                  > > so-call CLIMATE
                  > > > CHANGE?
                  > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                  > > present earth
                  > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                  > Planet
                  > > X!
                  > > >
                  > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                  > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                  > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                  > Thousands
                  > > of
                  > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                  > > rigged,
                  > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                  the
                  > > story
                  > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                  > > > -
                  > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                  is
                  > > not the cause
                  > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                  > explain
                  > > many
                  > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                  media
                  > > and the
                  > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                  Warming
                  > > was
                  > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                  > > establishment are
                  > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                  > > pass at
                  > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                  > in
                  > > the
                  > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                  > > control to
                  > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                  Bush,
                  > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                  media
                  > > is
                  > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                  the
                  > > line,
                  > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                  leak
                  > > has
                  > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                  > not
                  > > sure
                  > > > how
                  > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                  > be,
                  > > if
                  > > > excuses can suffice.
                  > > > *
                  > > > _________________________________________________
                  > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                  > > >
                  > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                  confronted
                  > > on
                  > > > Climategate in Chicago
                  > > > -
                  > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                  Climate
                  > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                  > > “HIDE�
                  > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                  > > > -
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                  <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                  \
                  > \
                  > > -scientists-disagree/>
                  > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                  > > disagree that global
                  > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                  > > > Â -
                  > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                  > > petition
                  > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                  > > >
                  > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                  > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                • broali4x
                  Dear masanga, If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal weather
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                    Dear masanga,
                    If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                    cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                    weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                    attributable denial!
                    All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                    forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                    become a witness as ell at such time!
                    I already have MY proof, sir.

                    --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                    since
                    > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                    > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                    > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                    >
                    > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                    and
                    > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of
                    how
                    > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                    >
                    > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                    that
                    > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                    true!
                    >
                    > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                    climate
                    > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                    > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                    > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                    >
                    > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                    sir."
                    >
                    > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would
                    they?
                    > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using
                    the
                    > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                    Zeta",
                    > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                    really
                    > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                    >
                    > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                    climate
                    > change on earth at the present time.
                    >
                    > Regan
                    >
                    >
                    > ----- Original Message -----
                    > From: broali4x
                    > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                    > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    CO2, The
                    > Sun, or PX?
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                    since
                    > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                    > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                    > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                    > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.
                    >
                    > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                    > >
                    > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                    > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                    have
                    > no
                    > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                    > >
                    > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                    > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                    > >
                    > > Regan
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > From: broali4x
                    > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                    > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    > CO2, The
                    > > Sun, or PX?
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Please sir massa,
                    > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                    to
                    > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                    > alledge
                    > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                    > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                    > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                    > >
                    > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                    > you
                    > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                    > are
                    > > >
                    > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                    > > > Please give your link."
                    > > >
                    > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                    seems
                    > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                    towards,
                    > or
                    > > about
                    > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                    repeatedly
                    > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                    > are
                    > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                    > > communication
                    > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                    all
                    > > and
                    > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                    have
                    > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                    > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                    > > >
                    > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                    > > >
                    > > > Regan
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > From: broali4x
                    > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                    > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                    CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    > > CO2, The
                    > > > Sun, or PX?
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                    you
                    > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                    > are
                    > > >
                    > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                    > > > Please give your link.
                    > > >
                    > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                    > > > >
                    > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet
                    X
                    > is
                    > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                    > their
                    > > > answer
                    > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                    scandal
                    > > > which you
                    > > > > gave us (see below).
                    > > > >
                    > > > > Regan
                    > > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                    > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                    > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                    > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    > CO2,
                    > > > The
                    > > > > Sun, or PX?
                    > > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                    > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                    > > > portraying,
                    > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                    forlorn
                    > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                    > > > clamoring
                    > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                    the
                    > > > case?
                    > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                    slowly
                    > > > screeching
                    > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                    > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                    > > some
                    > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                    > > > supposed
                    > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                    > all
                    > > > the
                    > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                    > > next?
                    > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                    > > > explanation,
                    > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                    > find
                    > > > the
                    > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                    causing
                    > > > so-call CLIMATE
                    > > > > CHANGE?
                    > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                    > > > present earth
                    > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                    > > Planet
                    > > > X!
                    > > > >
                    > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                    > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                    > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                    > > Thousands
                    > > > of
                    > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                    > > > rigged,
                    > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                    > the
                    > > > story
                    > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                    > > > > -
                    > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                    > is
                    > > > not the cause
                    > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                    > > explain
                    > > > many
                    > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                    > media
                    > > > and the
                    > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                    > Warming
                    > > > was
                    > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                    > > > establishment are
                    > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely
                    to
                    > > > pass at
                    > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                    panic
                    > > in
                    > > > the
                    > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                    > > > control to
                    > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                    > Bush,
                    > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                    > media
                    > > > is
                    > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                    > the
                    > > > line,
                    > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                    > leak
                    > > > has
                    > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                    and
                    > > not
                    > > > sure
                    > > > > how
                    > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                    might
                    > > be,
                    > > > if
                    > > > > excuses can suffice.
                    > > > > *
                    > > > > _________________________________________________
                    > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                    > > > >
                    > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                    > confronted
                    > > > on
                    > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                    > > > > -
                    > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                    > Climate
                    > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                    to
                    > > > “HIDE”
                    > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                    > > > > -
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
                    <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                    \
                    > \
                    > > \
                    > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                    > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                    > > > disagree that global
                    > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                    > > > > Â -
                    > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                    > > > petition
                    > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                    > > > >
                    > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                    > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                    >




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                  • masanga@talktalk.net
                    broali4x wrote: Dear masanga, If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing
                    Message 9 of 16 , Dec 7, 2009
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                      broali4x wrote:

                      "Dear masanga,
                      If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                      cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                      weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                      attributable denial!"

                      Dear broali4x,

                      I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY it is
                      supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest of it.

                      I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                      would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                      telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk web-site for
                      my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your promise
                      and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what you
                      say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?

                      "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                      forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                      become a witness as ell at such time!"

                      Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you made
                      when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for proof
                      but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us that
                      you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my breath
                      waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either. I'll
                      believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.

                      "I already have MY proof, sir."

                      Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                      providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site where
                      the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on
                      earth, should you?

                      Regan


                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: broali4x
                      To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                      Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                      Sun, or PX?





                      Dear masanga,
                      If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                      cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                      weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                      attributable denial!
                      All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                      forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                      become a witness as ell at such time!
                      I already have MY proof, sir.

                      --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                      since
                      > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                      > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                      > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                      >
                      > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                      and
                      > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of
                      how
                      > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                      >
                      > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                      that
                      > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                      true!
                      >
                      > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                      climate
                      > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                      > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                      > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                      >
                      > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                      sir."
                      >
                      > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would
                      they?
                      > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using
                      the
                      > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                      Zeta",
                      > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                      really
                      > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                      >
                      > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                      climate
                      > change on earth at the present time.
                      >
                      > Regan
                      >
                      >
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: broali4x
                      > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                      > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      CO2, The
                      > Sun, or PX?
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                      since
                      > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                      > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                      > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                      > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.
                      >
                      > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                      > >
                      > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                      > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                      have
                      > no
                      > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                      > >
                      > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                      > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                      > >
                      > > Regan
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > From: broali4x
                      > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                      > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      > CO2, The
                      > > Sun, or PX?
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Please sir massa,
                      > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                      to
                      > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                      > alledge
                      > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                      > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                      > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                      > >
                      > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                      > you
                      > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                      > are
                      > > >
                      > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                      > > > Please give your link."
                      > > >
                      > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                      seems
                      > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                      towards,
                      > or
                      > > about
                      > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                      repeatedly
                      > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                      > are
                      > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                      > > communication
                      > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                      all
                      > > and
                      > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                      have
                      > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                      > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                      > > >
                      > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                      > > >
                      > > > Regan
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > From: broali4x
                      > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                      > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                      CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      > > CO2, The
                      > > > Sun, or PX?
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                      you
                      > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                      > are
                      > > >
                      > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                      > > > Please give your link.
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet
                      X
                      > is
                      > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                      > their
                      > > > answer
                      > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                      scandal
                      > > > which you
                      > > > > gave us (see below).
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Regan
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                      > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                      > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                      > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      > CO2,
                      > > > The
                      > > > > Sun, or PX?
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                      > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                      > > > portraying,
                      > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                      forlorn
                      > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                      > > > clamoring
                      > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                      the
                      > > > case?
                      > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                      slowly
                      > > > screeching
                      > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                      > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                      > > some
                      > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                      > > > supposed
                      > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                      > all
                      > > > the
                      > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                      > > next?
                      > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                      > > > explanation,
                      > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                      > find
                      > > > the
                      > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                      causing
                      > > > so-call CLIMATE
                      > > > > CHANGE?
                      > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                      > > > present earth
                      > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                      > > Planet
                      > > > X!
                      > > > >
                      > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                      > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                      > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                      > > Thousands
                      > > > of
                      > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                      > > > rigged,
                      > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                      > the
                      > > > story
                      > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                      > > > > -
                      > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                      > is
                      > > > not the cause
                      > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                      > > explain
                      > > > many
                      > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                      > media
                      > > > and the
                      > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                      > Warming
                      > > > was
                      > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                      > > > establishment are
                      > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely
                      to
                      > > > pass at
                      > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                      panic
                      > > in
                      > > > the
                      > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                      > > > control to
                      > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                      > Bush,
                      > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                      > media
                      > > > is
                      > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                      > the
                      > > > line,
                      > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                      > leak
                      > > > has
                      > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                      and
                      > > not
                      > > > sure
                      > > > > how
                      > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                      might
                      > > be,
                      > > > if
                      > > > > excuses can suffice.
                      > > > > *
                      > > > > _________________________________________________
                      > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                      > confronted
                      > > > on
                      > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                      > > > > -
                      > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                      > Climate
                      > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                      to
                      > > > “HIDE�
                      > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                      > > > > -
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      >
                      <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                      \
                      > \
                      > > \
                      > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                      > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                      > > > disagree that global
                      > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                      > > > > Â -
                      > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                      > > > petition
                      > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                      > > > >
                      > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                      > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                      >
                    • broali4x
                      dear masanga, You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma whom you are privy to demand a change. Again, one again and for the
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                        dear masanga,
                        You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                        whom you are privy to demand a change.
                        Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                        Am i clear!



                        --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > broali4x wrote:
                        >
                        > "Dear masanga,
                        > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                        > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                        > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                        > attributable denial!"
                        >
                        > Dear broali4x,
                        >
                        > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY
                        it is
                        > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest
                        of it.
                        >
                        > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                        > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                        > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                        web-site for
                        > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                        promise
                        > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what
                        you
                        > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                        >
                        > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                        > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                        > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                        >
                        > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you
                        made
                        > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for
                        proof
                        > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                        that
                        > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my
                        breath
                        > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                        I'll
                        > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                        >
                        > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                        >
                        > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                        > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site
                        where
                        > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change
                        on
                        > earth, should you?
                        >
                        > Regan
                        >
                        >
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: broali4x
                        > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                        > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        CO2, The
                        > Sun, or PX?
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Dear masanga,
                        > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                        > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                        > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                        > attributable denial!
                        > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                        > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                        > become a witness as ell at such time!
                        > I already have MY proof, sir.
                        >
                        > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > >
                        > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                        > since
                        > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                        > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                        > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                        > >
                        > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                        > and
                        > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation
                        of
                        > how
                        > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                        > >
                        > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                        > that
                        > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                        > true!
                        > >
                        > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                        > climate
                        > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off
                        by
                        > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                        instead!
                        > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                        > >
                        > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                        > sir."
                        > >
                        > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                        would
                        > they?
                        > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                        using
                        > the
                        > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                        > Zeta",
                        > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                        > really
                        > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                        > >
                        > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                        > climate
                        > > change on earth at the present time.
                        > >
                        > > Regan
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > From: broali4x
                        > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                        > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > CO2, The
                        > > Sun, or PX?
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                        > since
                        > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                        > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                        > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                        > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                        sir.
                        > >
                        > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                        > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                        > have
                        > > no
                        > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                        > > >
                        > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                        > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                        > > >
                        > > > Regan
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > From: broali4x
                        > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                        > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                        CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > > CO2, The
                        > > > Sun, or PX?
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Please sir massa,
                        > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                        > to
                        > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                        > > alledge
                        > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                        > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                        > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                        have
                        > > you
                        > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                        sisters
                        > > are
                        > > > >
                        > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                        > > > > Please give your link."
                        > > > >
                        > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                        > seems
                        > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                        > towards,
                        > > or
                        > > > about
                        > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                        > repeatedly
                        > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                        angels
                        > > are
                        > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                        > > > communication
                        > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                        > all
                        > > > and
                        > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                        > have
                        > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                        be
                        > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                        > > > >
                        > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Regan
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > > From: broali4x
                        > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                        > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                        > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > > > CO2, The
                        > > > > Sun, or PX?
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                        > you
                        > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                        sisters
                        > > are
                        > > > >
                        > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                        > > > > Please give your link.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                        Planet
                        > X
                        > > is
                        > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                        > > their
                        > > > > answer
                        > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                        > scandal
                        > > > > which you
                        > > > > > gave us (see below).
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > Regan
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                        > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                        > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                        > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                        CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > > CO2,
                        > > > > The
                        > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                        > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                        is
                        > > > > portraying,
                        > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                        > forlorn
                        > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                        vehemently
                        > > > > clamoring
                        > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                        > the
                        > > > > case?
                        > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                        > slowly
                        > > > > screeching
                        > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                        > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed
                        in
                        > > > some
                        > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                        the
                        > > > > supposed
                        > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                        for
                        > > all
                        > > > > the
                        > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will
                        be
                        > > > next?
                        > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                        > > > > explanation,
                        > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                        may
                        > > find
                        > > > > the
                        > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                        > causing
                        > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                        > > > > > CHANGE?
                        > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                        the
                        > > > > present earth
                        > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                        aka
                        > > > Planet
                        > > > > X!
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                        > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                        > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                        > > > Thousands
                        > > > > of
                        > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                        were
                        > > > > rigged,
                        > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                        What's
                        > > the
                        > > > > story
                        > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                        > > > > > -
                        > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                        stated,
                        > > is
                        > > > > not the cause
                        > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                        > > > explain
                        > > > > many
                        > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                        > > media
                        > > > > and the
                        > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                        > > Warming
                        > > > > was
                        > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                        > > > > establishment are
                        > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                        likely
                        > to
                        > > > > pass at
                        > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                        > panic
                        > > > in
                        > > > > the
                        > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                        their
                        > > > > control to
                        > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                        > > Bush,
                        > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                        > > media
                        > > > > is
                        > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                        tout
                        > > the
                        > > > > line,
                        > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that
                        a
                        > > leak
                        > > > > has
                        > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                        > and
                        > > > not
                        > > > > sure
                        > > > > > how
                        > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                        > might
                        > > > be,
                        > > > > if
                        > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                        > > > > > *
                        > > > > > _________________________________________________
                        > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                        above:
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                        > > confronted
                        > > > > on
                        > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                        > > > > > -
                        > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                        > > Climate
                        > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                        > to
                        > > > > “HIDE”
                        > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                        > > > > > -
                        > > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        >
                        <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                        \
                        > \
                        > > \
                        > > > \
                        > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                        > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                        scientistsÂ
                        > > > > disagree that global
                        > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                        > > > > > Â -
                        > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed
                        a
                        > > > > petition
                        > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                        > > > > >
                        > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                        > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                        > >
                        >
                      • masanga@talktalk.net
                        I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on another and have just read broali4x s latest desultory address to me. Good grief! I see that he
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                          I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                          another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me. Good
                          grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                          embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:

                          "dear masanga,
                          You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                          whom you are privy to demand a change.
                          Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                          Am i clear!"

                          I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                          mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my simple
                          and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                          change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I was a
                          baby and he was my "momma"!

                          I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                          question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean, why is
                          it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent explanation"
                          given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my question
                          himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the Zeta's
                          explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest of my
                          lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the entire
                          ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being very
                          helpful, is he? Hardly STO!

                          He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                          someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                          misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all that
                          by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                          commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I think I
                          can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by "the
                          source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a link
                          to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it! How
                          can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                          archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally opaque
                          about that matter!

                          And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                          his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet calculated to
                          trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake down any
                          tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics are
                          easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because they can
                          see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no danger to
                          them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to fall
                          foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                          infantile cult-building scams!

                          Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                          that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X is
                          supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                          dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                          question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while he
                          diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                          irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are "all-knowing".
                          But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                          again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                          through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at him
                          with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on similar
                          endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I confronted
                          him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question when it
                          was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                          finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                          reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.

                          To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                          that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in these
                          unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position would
                          have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I don't
                          personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about it on
                          the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of use to
                          you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to it."

                          I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                          me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                          mirror to the self.

                          Regan


                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: broali4x
                          To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                          Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                          Sun, or PX?





                          dear masanga,
                          You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                          whom you are privy to demand a change.
                          Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                          Am i clear!

                          --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > broali4x wrote:
                          >
                          > "Dear masanga,
                          > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                          > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                          > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                          > attributable denial!"
                          >
                          > Dear broali4x,
                          >
                          > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY
                          it is
                          > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest
                          of it.
                          >
                          > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                          > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                          > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                          web-site for
                          > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                          promise
                          > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what
                          you
                          > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                          >
                          > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                          > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                          > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                          >
                          > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you
                          made
                          > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for
                          proof
                          > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                          that
                          > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my
                          breath
                          > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                          I'll
                          > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                          >
                          > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                          >
                          > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                          > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site
                          where
                          > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change
                          on
                          > earth, should you?
                          >
                          > Regan
                          >
                          >
                          > ----- Original Message -----
                          > From: broali4x
                          > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                          > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          CO2, The
                          > Sun, or PX?
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Dear masanga,
                          > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                          > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                          > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                          > attributable denial!
                          > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                          > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                          > become a witness as ell at such time!
                          > I already have MY proof, sir.
                          >
                          > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > >
                          > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                          > since
                          > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                          > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                          > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                          > >
                          > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                          > and
                          > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation
                          of
                          > how
                          > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                          > >
                          > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                          > that
                          > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                          > true!
                          > >
                          > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                          > climate
                          > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off
                          by
                          > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                          instead!
                          > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                          > >
                          > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                          > sir."
                          > >
                          > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                          would
                          > they?
                          > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                          using
                          > the
                          > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                          > Zeta",
                          > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                          > really
                          > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                          > >
                          > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                          > climate
                          > > change on earth at the present time.
                          > >
                          > > Regan
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > From: broali4x
                          > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                          > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > CO2, The
                          > > Sun, or PX?
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                          > since
                          > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                          > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                          > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                          > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                          sir.
                          > >
                          > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                          > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                          > have
                          > > no
                          > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                          > > >
                          > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                          > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                          > > >
                          > > > Regan
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > From: broali4x
                          > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                          > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                          CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > > CO2, The
                          > > > Sun, or PX?
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Please sir massa,
                          > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                          > to
                          > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                          > > alledge
                          > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                          > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                          > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                          have
                          > > you
                          > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                          sisters
                          > > are
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                          > > > > Please give your link."
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                          > seems
                          > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                          > towards,
                          > > or
                          > > > about
                          > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                          > repeatedly
                          > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                          angels
                          > > are
                          > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                          > > > communication
                          > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                          > all
                          > > > and
                          > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                          > have
                          > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                          be
                          > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Regan
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > From: broali4x
                          > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                          > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                          > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > > > CO2, The
                          > > > > Sun, or PX?
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                          > you
                          > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                          sisters
                          > > are
                          > > > >
                          > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                          > > > > Please give your link.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                          Planet
                          > X
                          > > is
                          > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                          > > their
                          > > > > answer
                          > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                          > scandal
                          > > > > which you
                          > > > > > gave us (see below).
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Regan
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                          > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                          > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                          > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                          CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > > CO2,
                          > > > > The
                          > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                          > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                          is
                          > > > > portraying,
                          > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                          > forlorn
                          > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                          vehemently
                          > > > > clamoring
                          > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                          > the
                          > > > > case?
                          > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                          > slowly
                          > > > > screeching
                          > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                          > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed
                          in
                          > > > some
                          > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                          the
                          > > > > supposed
                          > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                          for
                          > > all
                          > > > > the
                          > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will
                          be
                          > > > next?
                          > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                          > > > > explanation,
                          > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                          may
                          > > find
                          > > > > the
                          > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                          > causing
                          > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                          > > > > > CHANGE?
                          > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                          the
                          > > > > present earth
                          > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                          aka
                          > > > Planet
                          > > > > X!
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                          > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                          > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                          > > > Thousands
                          > > > > of
                          > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                          were
                          > > > > rigged,
                          > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                          What's
                          > > the
                          > > > > story
                          > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                          > > > > > -
                          > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                          stated,
                          > > is
                          > > > > not the cause
                          > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                          > > > explain
                          > > > > many
                          > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                          > > media
                          > > > > and the
                          > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                          > > Warming
                          > > > > was
                          > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                          > > > > establishment are
                          > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                          likely
                          > to
                          > > > > pass at
                          > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                          > panic
                          > > > in
                          > > > > the
                          > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                          their
                          > > > > control to
                          > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                          > > Bush,
                          > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                          > > media
                          > > > > is
                          > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                          tout
                          > > the
                          > > > > line,
                          > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that
                          a
                          > > leak
                          > > > > has
                          > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                          > and
                          > > > not
                          > > > > sure
                          > > > > > how
                          > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                          > might
                          > > > be,
                          > > > > if
                          > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                          > > > > > *
                          > > > > > _________________________________________________
                          > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                          above:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                          > > confronted
                          > > > > on
                          > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                          > > > > > -
                          > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                          > > Climate
                          > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                          > to
                          > > > > “HIDE�
                          > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                          > > > > > -
                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >
                          <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                          \
                          > \
                          > > \
                          > > > \
                          > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                          > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                          scientistsÂ
                          > > > > disagree that global
                          > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                          > > > > > Â -
                          > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed
                          a
                          > > > > petition
                          > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                          > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                        • broali4x
                          Dear Mr. Massaggga, You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers, but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
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                            Dear Mr. Massaggga,
                            You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                            but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                            intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                            Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran.
                            At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                            Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                            Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                            night around the clock. Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                            if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                            wicked!
                            Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                            Jambo



                            --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                            > another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me.
                            Good
                            > grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                            > embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:
                            >
                            > "dear masanga,
                            > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                            momma
                            > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                            > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                            > Am i clear!"
                            >
                            > I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                            > mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my
                            simple
                            > and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                            climate
                            > change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I
                            was a
                            > baby and he was my "momma"!
                            >
                            > I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                            > question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean,
                            why is
                            > it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent
                            explanation"
                            > given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my
                            question
                            > himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the
                            Zeta's
                            > explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest
                            of my
                            > lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the
                            entire
                            > ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being
                            very
                            > helpful, is he? Hardly STO!
                            >
                            > He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                            > someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                            > misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all
                            that
                            > by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                            > commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I
                            think I
                            > can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by
                            "the
                            > source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a
                            link
                            > to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it!
                            How
                            > can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                            > archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally
                            opaque
                            > about that matter!
                            >
                            > And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                            > his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet
                            calculated to
                            > trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake
                            down any
                            > tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics
                            are
                            > easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because
                            they can
                            > see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no
                            danger to
                            > them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to
                            fall
                            > foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                            > infantile cult-building scams!
                            >
                            > Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                            > that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X
                            is
                            > supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                            > dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                            > question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while
                            he
                            > diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                            > irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are
                            "all-knowing".
                            > But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                            > again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                            > through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at
                            him
                            > with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on
                            similar
                            > endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I
                            confronted
                            > him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question
                            when it
                            > was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                            > finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                            > reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.
                            >
                            > To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                            > that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in
                            these
                            > unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position
                            would
                            > have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I
                            don't
                            > personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about
                            it on
                            > the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of
                            use to
                            > you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to
                            it."
                            >
                            > I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                            > me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                            > mirror to the self.
                            >
                            > Regan
                            >
                            >
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: broali4x
                            > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                            > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            CO2, The
                            > Sun, or PX?
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > dear masanga,
                            > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                            momma
                            > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                            > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                            > Am i clear!
                            >
                            > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > >
                            > > broali4x wrote:
                            > >
                            > > "Dear masanga,
                            > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                            > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                            > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                            > > attributable denial!"
                            > >
                            > > Dear broali4x,
                            > >
                            > > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not
                            WHY
                            > it is
                            > > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the
                            rest
                            > of it.
                            > >
                            > > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that
                            YOU
                            > > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you
                            are
                            > > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                            > web-site for
                            > > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                            > promise
                            > > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean
                            what
                            > you
                            > > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                            > >
                            > > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                            be
                            > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                            to
                            > > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                            > >
                            > > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one
                            you
                            > made
                            > > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request
                            for
                            > proof
                            > > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                            > that
                            > > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold
                            my
                            > breath
                            > > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                            > I'll
                            > > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                            > >
                            > > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                            > >
                            > > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                            > > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk
                            web-site
                            > where
                            > > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                            change
                            > on
                            > > earth, should you?
                            > >
                            > > Regan
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > From: broali4x
                            > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                            > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > CO2, The
                            > > Sun, or PX?
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Dear masanga,
                            > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                            > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                            > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                            > > attributable denial!
                            > > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                            be
                            > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                            to
                            > > become a witness as ell at such time!
                            > > I already have MY proof, sir.
                            > >
                            > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your
                            question
                            > > since
                            > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                            > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                            > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                            > > >
                            > > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the
                            Kolbrin
                            > > and
                            > > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an
                            explanation
                            > of
                            > > how
                            > > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                            > > >
                            > > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to
                            accept
                            > > that
                            > > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                            > > true!
                            > > >
                            > > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                            > > climate
                            > > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me
                            off
                            > by
                            > > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                            > instead!
                            > > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                            > > >
                            > > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                            > > sir."
                            > > >
                            > > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                            > would
                            > > they?
                            > > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                            > using
                            > > the
                            > > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the
                            all-knowing
                            > > Zeta",
                            > > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                            > > really
                            > > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                            > > >
                            > > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                            > > climate
                            > > > change on earth at the present time.
                            > > >
                            > > > Regan
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > From: broali4x
                            > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                            > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                            CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > CO2, The
                            > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                            > > since
                            > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                            > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                            > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                            > > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                            > sir.
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If
                            you
                            > > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and
                            you
                            > > have
                            > > > no
                            > > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you
                            said
                            > > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that
                            Nathaniel.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Regan
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > From: broali4x
                            > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                            > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                            > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > > CO2, The
                            > > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Please sir massa,
                            > > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a
                            link
                            > > to
                            > > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                            > > > alledge
                            > > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                            > > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                            > > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and
                            switch!
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                            > have
                            > > > you
                            > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                            > sisters
                            > > > are
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                            > > > > > Please give your link."
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                            > > seems
                            > > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                            > > towards,
                            > > > or
                            > > > > about
                            > > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                            > > repeatedly
                            > > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                            > angels
                            > > > are
                            > > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                            > > > > communication
                            > > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven
                            sees
                            > > all
                            > > > > and
                            > > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's
                            ministers,
                            > > have
                            > > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                            > be
                            > > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Regan
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > > From: broali4x
                            > > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                            > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                            > > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > > > CO2, The
                            > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                            have
                            > > you
                            > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                            > sisters
                            > > > are
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                            > > > > > Please give your link.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                            > Planet
                            > > X
                            > > > is
                            > > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained
                            in
                            > > > their
                            > > > > > answer
                            > > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                            > > scandal
                            > > > > > which you
                            > > > > > > gave us (see below).
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > Regan
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                            > > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                            > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                            > > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                            > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > > CO2,
                            > > > > > The
                            > > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                            > > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                            > is
                            > > > > > portraying,
                            > > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                            > > forlorn
                            > > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                            > vehemently
                            > > > > > clamoring
                            > > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is
                            not
                            > > the
                            > > > > > case?
                            > > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                            > > slowly
                            > > > > > screeching
                            > > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                            > > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be
                            blamed
                            > in
                            > > > > some
                            > > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                            > the
                            > > > > > supposed
                            > > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                            > for
                            > > > all
                            > > > > > the
                            > > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens
                            will
                            > be
                            > > > > next?
                            > > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more
                            reasonable
                            > > > > > explanation,
                            > > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                            > may
                            > > > find
                            > > > > > the
                            > > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                            > > causing
                            > > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                            > > > > > > CHANGE?
                            > > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                            > the
                            > > > > > present earth
                            > > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                            > aka
                            > > > > Planet
                            > > > > > X!
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                            > > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                            > > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                            > > > > Thousands
                            > > > > > of
                            > > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                            > were
                            > > > > > rigged,
                            > > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                            > What's
                            > > > the
                            > > > > > story
                            > > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring
                            it?
                            > > > > > > -
                            > > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                            > stated,
                            > > > is
                            > > > > > not the cause
                            > > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen
                            to
                            > > > > explain
                            > > > > > many
                            > > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as
                            the
                            > > > media
                            > > > > > and the
                            > > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                            > > > Warming
                            > > > > > was
                            > > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                            > > > > > establishment are
                            > > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                            > likely
                            > > to
                            > > > > > pass at
                            > > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                            > > panic
                            > > > > in
                            > > > > > the
                            > > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                            > their
                            > > > > > control to
                            > > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that
                            under
                            > > > Bush,
                            > > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line.
                            The
                            > > > media
                            > > > > > is
                            > > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                            > tout
                            > > > the
                            > > > > > line,
                            > > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now
                            that
                            > a
                            > > > leak
                            > > > > > has
                            > > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are
                            stunned
                            > > and
                            > > > > not
                            > > > > > sure
                            > > > > > > how
                            > > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                            > > might
                            > > > > be,
                            > > > > > if
                            > > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                            > > > > > > *
                            > > > > > > _________________________________________________
                            > > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                            > above:
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                            > > > confronted
                            > > > > > on
                            > > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                            > > > > > > -
                            > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                            > > > Climate
                            > > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing
                            conspiracy
                            > > to
                            > > > > > “HIDE”
                            > > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                            > > > > > > -
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            >
                            <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                            \
                            > \
                            > > \
                            > > > \
                            > > > > \
                            > > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                            > > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                            > scientistsÂ
                            > > > > > disagree that global
                            > > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                            > > > > > > Â -
                            > > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists
                            signed
                            > a
                            > > > > > petition
                            > > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the
                            RIGHTEOUS.
                            > > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                            >




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                            Hi folks, I see that Nathaniel is still intent upon being a pest and making a nuisance of himself. I realise that he cannot help doing it since he is not in
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                              Hi folks,

                              I see that Nathaniel is still intent upon being a pest and making a
                              nuisance of himself. I realise that he cannot help doing it since he is not
                              in control of himself, but what are we to do with him? He appears
                              determined to impose himself on us and to fight the Zeta's corner in the
                              manner of a crusade, so we cannot just ignore him. But he cannot discuss
                              anything reasonably or even stick to the point so we cannot engage him in
                              discussion or argue out any points with him either. He does not absorb any
                              information that you give him, is way out of his depth in every subject that
                              comes up here and seems to be functioning mentally on automatic pilot. So I
                              find myself wondering how someone who is exhibiting such a deep level of
                              unconsciousness can even get through their day, as well as why they have
                              come here to this forum and what they really need from us here.

                              He demands our attention but when we give it to him he does not like
                              what we find in him and reacts against it with hostility. But we are not
                              responsible for that. He is. So I propose to continue to give him the
                              attention that he is demanding and leave it to him to deal with whatever
                              problems my doing that may give him. And my way of doing that will be
                              to reply to his latest epistle conscientiously, bit by bit, one step at a
                              time.

                              He writes:

                              "Dear Mr. Massaggga,"

                              For reasons relating to the history of this thread I take it that he
                              is addressing his post to me, but my name is not Massaggga as everyone here
                              who is not a newcomer must know - everyone except Nathaniel, that is. "Mr
                              Massaggga" is a character that Nathaniel has invented and who exists only in
                              his imaginative mind. Why has he done this? Why can he not take in what
                              another person's name actually is and relate to that person as they are?
                              Why must he replace them in his mind with a character who he has dreamt up?
                              Who is this dream-person "Mr Massaggga"? Where in Nathaniel's mind and
                              being did he come from? He must be the part of Nathaniel's unknown self
                              whose name is "Mr Massaggga".

                              Apparently the Mr Massaggga-part of himself is not behaving
                              properly in Nathaniel's mind though, since he (Nathaniel) tells him:

                              "You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                              but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                              intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                              Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran."

                              It seems that Nathaniel is having a bit of trouble determining
                              who Mr Massaggga is too, in spite of the fact that he is Nathaniel's own
                              imaginary creation. Nathaniel describes him as being on the one hand like a
                              baby in soiled diapers but on the other like a sadist as exemplified in his
                              mind by Sese Siko Mobuto and the Shah of Iran. There is a big difference
                              between these two types of character, the helpless baby and the tyrannical
                              sadist, and I can imagine how perplexing it must be for Nathaniel not to be
                              able to tell one from the other. But since he is the creator of all the
                              characters who have appeared in his mind - Mr Massaggga, the baby, the
                              sadist, Mobuto and the Shah of Iran - they are all aspects of himself and he
                              is Mr Massaggga, the baby, the sadist, Mobuto, the Shah of Iran and whoever
                              else his imagination may dream up to inhabit his chaotic subjective
                              inner-world.

                              However, his next sentence shows us that he is not really interested
                              in resolving the question of who and what Mr Massaggga really is anyway
                              since he abandons that problem unsolved and gets on with what seems to him
                              to be the more important business of telling Mr Massaggga what to do. He
                              writes:

                              "At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                              Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                              Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                              night around the clock."

                              Evidently he has come a long way in his mind from the original
                              subject of this thread - Planet X as the cause of climate change - and that
                              has passed into oblivion for all he seems to care. The most urgent priority
                              in his mind is for this unknowable and unimportant Mr Massaggga to find out
                              how the wonderful, all-important Pres. Obama and his family are favored by
                              heaven and are enjoying divine protection continuously. Of course I can
                              only guess at why Nathaniel has seized upon Pres. Obama (and the Zeta) to
                              pin all his faith and hopes upon. I can only tell that this is what he
                              appears to have done and that he appears to be doing it with the kind of
                              religious zeal that only born saints possess. But their devotion is to God,
                              not a man, and Obama is a man, not God. The Zeta are not God either. So I
                              think Nathaniel is doing something very unwise by fixing his adulation on
                              the man Obama and the Zeta-beings and that he is practicing a degenerate
                              kind of religion in doing so. To me he is simply worshipping false idols.

                              I realise though that I could be misjudging him and I would not have
                              a problem with him worshipping these personages if he would just get on with
                              practicing his self-chosen religion and leave me and everyone else to
                              practice our own as well in peace. But it seems he cannot do that. Instead
                              he has to try to urge, cajole, browbeat and verbally-horsewhip everyone else
                              into worshipping his chosen deities too, even when it has nothing to do with
                              the topic under discussion and nothing to do with the purpose of this forum
                              either! Like the knights crusaders of old, it seems that our Nathaniel is
                              on a holy mission to conquer the world in the name of Obama and the Zeta, to
                              convert all of us unrighteous heathens to his new religion and to stamp
                              viciously on all who refuse to accept it and even upon those who simply dare
                              to question it!

                              He's got some hope! He has got "fundamentalist fanatic" written all
                              over him and people can see him coming. No-one is going to convert to his
                              religion because of his overbearing, aggressive and desultory efforts to
                              persuade them. Any fool can see that - well, any fool except Nathaniel, I
                              mean. But even if his beligerent, dogmatic personality was not sufficiently
                              off-putting to persuade everyone that any super-beings who he worships have
                              to be worth avoiding, there is also the threatening sub-text of his message
                              that you had better surrender and conform-or-else to make you want to run a
                              mile from him and his judgemental, domineering cult. He always ends on a
                              threateneing note which seeks to put the fear of God into the reader and
                              this time was no exception. He writes:

                              "Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                              if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                              wicked!
                              Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                              Jambo"

                              Oh my, oh my, just three more years in which to turn from our evil
                              ways and make ourselves ready to receive the final judgement of God Almighty
                              upon our souls! How will we ever be ready in time?

                              Regan


                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: broali4x
                              To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:53 AM
                              Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                              Sun, or PX?





                              Dear Mr. Massaggga,
                              You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                              but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                              intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                              Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran.
                              At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                              Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                              Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                              night around the clock. Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                              if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                              wicked!
                              Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                              Jambo

                              --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                              > another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me.
                              Good
                              > grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                              > embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:
                              >
                              > "dear masanga,
                              > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                              momma
                              > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                              > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                              > Am i clear!"
                              >
                              > I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                              > mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my
                              simple
                              > and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                              climate
                              > change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I
                              was a
                              > baby and he was my "momma"!
                              >
                              > I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                              > question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean,
                              why is
                              > it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent
                              explanation"
                              > given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my
                              question
                              > himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the
                              Zeta's
                              > explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest
                              of my
                              > lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the
                              entire
                              > ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being
                              very
                              > helpful, is he? Hardly STO!
                              >
                              > He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                              > someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                              > misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all
                              that
                              > by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                              > commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I
                              think I
                              > can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by
                              "the
                              > source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a
                              link
                              > to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it!
                              How
                              > can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                              > archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally
                              opaque
                              > about that matter!
                              >
                              > And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                              > his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet
                              calculated to
                              > trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake
                              down any
                              > tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics
                              are
                              > easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because
                              they can
                              > see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no
                              danger to
                              > them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to
                              fall
                              > foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                              > infantile cult-building scams!
                              >
                              > Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                              > that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X
                              is
                              > supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                              > dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                              > question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while
                              he
                              > diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                              > irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are
                              "all-knowing".
                              > But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                              > again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                              > through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at
                              him
                              > with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on
                              similar
                              > endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I
                              confronted
                              > him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question
                              when it
                              > was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                              > finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                              > reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.
                              >
                              > To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                              > that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in
                              these
                              > unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position
                              would
                              > have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I
                              don't
                              > personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about
                              it on
                              > the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of
                              use to
                              > you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to
                              it."
                              >
                              > I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                              > me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                              > mirror to the self.
                              >
                              > Regan
                              >
                              >
                              > ----- Original Message -----
                              > From: broali4x
                              > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                              > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              CO2, The
                              > Sun, or PX?
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > dear masanga,
                              > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                              momma
                              > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                              > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                              > Am i clear!
                              >
                              > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > >
                              > > broali4x wrote:
                              > >
                              > > "Dear masanga,
                              > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                              > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                              > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                              > > attributable denial!"
                              > >
                              > > Dear broali4x,
                              > >
                              > > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not
                              WHY
                              > it is
                              > > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the
                              rest
                              > of it.
                              > >
                              > > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that
                              YOU
                              > > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you
                              are
                              > > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                              > web-site for
                              > > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                              > promise
                              > > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean
                              what
                              > you
                              > > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                              > >
                              > > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                              be
                              > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                              to
                              > > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                              > >
                              > > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one
                              you
                              > made
                              > > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request
                              for
                              > proof
                              > > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                              > that
                              > > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold
                              my
                              > breath
                              > > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                              > I'll
                              > > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                              > >
                              > > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                              > >
                              > > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                              > > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk
                              web-site
                              > where
                              > > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                              change
                              > on
                              > > earth, should you?
                              > >
                              > > Regan
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > From: broali4x
                              > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                              > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > CO2, The
                              > > Sun, or PX?
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Dear masanga,
                              > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                              > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                              > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                              > > attributable denial!
                              > > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                              be
                              > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                              to
                              > > become a witness as ell at such time!
                              > > I already have MY proof, sir.
                              > >
                              > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your
                              question
                              > > since
                              > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                              > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                              > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                              > > >
                              > > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the
                              Kolbrin
                              > > and
                              > > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an
                              explanation
                              > of
                              > > how
                              > > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                              > > >
                              > > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to
                              accept
                              > > that
                              > > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                              > > true!
                              > > >
                              > > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                              > > climate
                              > > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me
                              off
                              > by
                              > > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                              > instead!
                              > > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                              > > >
                              > > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                              > > sir."
                              > > >
                              > > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                              > would
                              > > they?
                              > > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                              > using
                              > > the
                              > > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the
                              all-knowing
                              > > Zeta",
                              > > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                              > > really
                              > > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                              > > >
                              > > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                              > > climate
                              > > > change on earth at the present time.
                              > > >
                              > > > Regan
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > From: broali4x
                              > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                              > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                              CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > CO2, The
                              > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                              > > since
                              > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                              > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                              > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                              > > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                              > sir.
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If
                              you
                              > > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and
                              you
                              > > have
                              > > > no
                              > > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you
                              said
                              > > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that
                              Nathaniel.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Regan
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > From: broali4x
                              > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                              > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                              > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > > CO2, The
                              > > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Please sir massa,
                              > > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a
                              link
                              > > to
                              > > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                              > > > alledge
                              > > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                              > > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                              > > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and
                              switch!
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                              > have
                              > > > you
                              > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                              > sisters
                              > > > are
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                              > > > > > Please give your link."
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                              > > seems
                              > > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                              > > towards,
                              > > > or
                              > > > > about
                              > > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                              > > repeatedly
                              > > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                              > angels
                              > > > are
                              > > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                              > > > > communication
                              > > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven
                              sees
                              > > all
                              > > > > and
                              > > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's
                              ministers,
                              > > have
                              > > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                              > be
                              > > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Regan
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > > From: broali4x
                              > > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                              > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                              > > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > > > CO2, The
                              > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                              have
                              > > you
                              > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                              > sisters
                              > > > are
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                              > > > > > Please give your link.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                              > Planet
                              > > X
                              > > > is
                              > > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained
                              in
                              > > > their
                              > > > > > answer
                              > > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                              > > scandal
                              > > > > > which you
                              > > > > > > gave us (see below).
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Regan
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                              > > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                              > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                              > > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                              > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > > CO2,
                              > > > > > The
                              > > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                              > > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                              > is
                              > > > > > portraying,
                              > > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                              > > forlorn
                              > > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                              > vehemently
                              > > > > > clamoring
                              > > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is
                              not
                              > > the
                              > > > > > case?
                              > > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                              > > slowly
                              > > > > > screeching
                              > > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                              > > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be
                              blamed
                              > in
                              > > > > some
                              > > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                              > the
                              > > > > > supposed
                              > > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                              > for
                              > > > all
                              > > > > > the
                              > > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens
                              will
                              > be
                              > > > > next?
                              > > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more
                              reasonable
                              > > > > > explanation,
                              > > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                              > may
                              > > > find
                              > > > > > the
                              > > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                              > > causing
                              > > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                              > > > > > > CHANGE?
                              > > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                              > the
                              > > > > > present earth
                              > > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                              > aka
                              > > > > Planet
                              > > > > > X!
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                              > > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                              > > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                              > > > > Thousands
                              > > > > > of
                              > > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                              > were
                              > > > > > rigged,
                              > > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                              > What's
                              > > > the
                              > > > > > story
                              > > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring
                              it?
                              > > > > > > -
                              > > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                              > stated,
                              > > > is
                              > > > > > not the cause
                              > > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen
                              to
                              > > > > explain
                              > > > > > many
                              > > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as
                              the
                              > > > media
                              > > > > > and the
                              > > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                              > > > Warming
                              > > > > > was
                              > > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                              > > > > > establishment are
                              > > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                              > likely
                              > > to
                              > > > > > pass at
                              > > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                              > > panic
                              > > > > in
                              > > > > > the
                              > > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                              > their
                              > > > > > control to
                              > > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that
                              under
                              > > > Bush,
                              > > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line.
                              The
                              > > > media
                              > > > > > is
                              > > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                              > tout
                              > > > the
                              > > > > > line,
                              > > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now
                              that
                              > a
                              > > > leak
                              > > > > > has
                              > > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are
                              stunned
                              > > and
                              > > > > not
                              > > > > > sure
                              > > > > > > how
                              > > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                              > > might
                              > > > > be,
                              > > > > > if
                              > > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                              > > > > > > *
                              > > > > > > _________________________________________________
                              > > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                              > above:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                              > > > confronted
                              > > > > > on
                              > > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                              > > > > > > -
                              > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                              > > > Climate
                              > > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing
                              conspiracy
                              > > to
                              > > > > > “HIDE�
                              > > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                              > > > > > > -
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > >
                              >
                              <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                              \
                              > \
                              > > \
                              > > > \
                              > > > > \
                              > > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                              > > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                              > scientistsÂ
                              > > > > > disagree that global
                              > > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                              > > > > > > Â -
                              > > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists
                              signed
                              > a
                              > > > > > petition
                              > > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the
                              RIGHTEOUS.
                              > > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                              >

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