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  • broali4x
    You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are ALL KNOWING ????
    Message 1 of 16 , Dec 2, 2009
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      You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
      heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are

      "ALL KNOWING"????
      Please give your link.





      --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
      >
      > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
      > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
      answer
      > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
      which you
      > gave us (see below).
      >
      > Regan
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: nathaniel x vance
      > To: dr.ibrahim@...
      > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
      > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
      The
      > Sun, or PX?
      >
      >
      >
      > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
      > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
      portraying,
      > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
      > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
      clamoring
      > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
      case?
      > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
      screeching
      > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
      > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in some
      > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
      supposed
      > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
      the
      > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be next?
      > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
      explanation,
      > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
      the
      > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
      so-call CLIMATE
      > CHANGE?
      > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
      present earth
      > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka Planet
      X!
      >
      > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
      <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
      > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate". Thousands
      of
      > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
      rigged,
      > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
      story
      > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
      > -
      > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
      not the cause
      > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to explain
      many
      > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
      and the
      > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
      was
      > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
      establishment are
      > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
      pass at
      > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic in
      the
      > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
      control to
      > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
      > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
      is
      > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
      line,
      > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
      has
      > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and not
      sure
      > how
      > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might be,
      if
      > excuses can suffice.
      > *
      > _________________________________________________
      > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
      >
      > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
      on
      > Climategate in Chicago
      > -
      > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
      > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
      “HIDE”
      > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
      > -
      >
      <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
      -scientists-disagree/>
      > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
      disagree that global
      > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
      > Â -
      > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
      petition
      > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
      >
      > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
      > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
      >




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    • nathaniel x vance
      Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!  Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on purpose by the rulers of darkness to
      Message 2 of 16 , Dec 2, 2009
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        Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!
         Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on purpose by the rulers of darkness to hide the real reason for planet earth climate-change?
        But Why?
        The simple answer is hell yeah, and here is the real reason why!

        CNN  Mr. Jack Cafferty chimes suggesting that Climate Change is NOT caused by CO2 emissions!
        ______________________________________________________________
        Al Gore called global warming "An Inconvenient Truth"... but suddenly a lot of people are asking what the truth really is. It's been dubbed ClimateGate.<http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/02/has-scientific-community-has-been-honest-about-global-warming/ >  CNN: caffertyfile,  Has scientific community been honest about global warming?


        ZetaTalk: When Lies Fail  [written Feb 17, 2006]
        When the cover-ups on the alien presence and the approach of Planet X first started, back in the days of Roswell, this was to be primarily supression of information, along with some fear inducing disinformation to keep people from pursuing the matter. UFO's were routinely called swamp gas and weather balloons, and the CIA spread rumors of aliens in underground chambers eating human body parts floating in vats. This involved NASA air brushing UFO's out of photos, suppression of real UFO sightings in the news, project Blue Book, government sponsored skeptics prominent in the media, and faked eye witness reports. This is still the mode today, almost 60 years later, though the mechanisms have failed. They were overrun with genuine reports of contactee experiences, many using the Internet to spread the word, and mass sightings where thousands would view a UFO blitz, simultaneously, so the news seeped past the media suppression, forcing the media to address
        the issue to avoid the appearance of a controlled suppression. What is to be learned from the breakdown of the cover-up on the alien presence? Sheer volume of information, truth, overruns and counters a cover-up and disinformation.
        How might this apply to the cover-up on Planet X? Unlike the alien presence, which was palpable at the time of Roswell, presenting itself with crashed ships and alien bodies and front page news coverage, Planet X was not expected to become an issue for decades. They had time. Thus, the cover-up has not yet broken down by the sheer volumn of information, or truth countering disinformation, but this process is evident. The plan was to claim and blame an erratic Sun for magnetic irregularities, asteroid swarms to explain the increase in fireballs, global warming to explain the melting glaciers and poles, and periodic climate change to cover weather irregularities. Since panic in the public could be assumed to be a national security threat, coercing the media and scientists and those in the know to cooperate with the cover-up was simply a matter of imposing a nation security oath on anyone needed to cooperate. But they did not know what to expect, nor could
        they imagine what to expect, and thus there are holes in the plan. Lies come with many faces.
        More at: <http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta262.htm>


        The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
        salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee



        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      • masanga@talktalk.net
        You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are ALL KNOWING ????
        Message 3 of 16 , Dec 2, 2009
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          "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
          heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are

          'ALL KNOWING'????
          Please give your link."

          I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
          to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or about
          the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
          referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
          supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and communication
          with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all and
          knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
          unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
          all-knowing. Isn't that correct?

          I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.

          Regan


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: broali4x
          To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
          Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
          Sun, or PX?





          You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
          heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are

          "ALL KNOWING"????
          Please give your link.

          --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
          >
          > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
          > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
          answer
          > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
          which you
          > gave us (see below).
          >
          > Regan
          >
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: nathaniel x vance
          > To: dr.ibrahim@...
          > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
          > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
          The
          > Sun, or PX?
          >
          >
          >
          > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
          > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
          portraying,
          > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
          > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
          clamoring
          > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
          case?
          > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
          screeching
          > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
          > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in some
          > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
          supposed
          > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
          the
          > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be next?
          > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
          explanation,
          > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
          the
          > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
          so-call CLIMATE
          > CHANGE?
          > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
          present earth
          > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka Planet
          X!
          >
          > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
          <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
          > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate". Thousands
          of
          > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
          rigged,
          > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
          story
          > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
          > -
          > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
          not the cause
          > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to explain
          many
          > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
          and the
          > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
          was
          > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
          establishment are
          > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
          pass at
          > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic in
          the
          > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
          control to
          > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
          > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
          is
          > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
          line,
          > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
          has
          > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and not
          sure
          > how
          > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might be,
          if
          > excuses can suffice.
          > *
          > _________________________________________________
          > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
          >
          > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
          on
          > Climategate in Chicago
          > -
          > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
          > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
          “HIDE�
          > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
          > -
          >
          <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
          -scientists-disagree/>
          > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
          disagree that global
          > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
          > Â -
          > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
          petition
          > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
          >
          > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
          > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
        • masanga@talktalk.net
          I don t know if this was supposed to be an answer to my question How is Planet X supposed to be the real cause of climate change? but it isn t one. Am I
          Message 4 of 16 , Dec 4, 2009
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            I don't know if this was supposed to be an answer to my question
            "How is Planet X supposed to be the real cause of climate change?" but it
            isn't one. Am I supposed to simply take the Zeta's word for it on blind
            trust? Sorry, but that's not going to happen.

            Climategate may have shown that the man-made global warming argument
            is scientifically fraudulent but it has not proven, or even suggested, or
            obliquely, tentatively implied anything at all about Planet X. So I ask
            again:

            How is Planet X supposed to be causing climate change?

            Regan


            ----- Original Message -----
            From: nathaniel x vance
            To: dr.ibrahim@...
            Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:05 AM
            Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
            Sun, or PX?



            Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!
            Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on
            purpose by the rulers of darkness to hide the real reason for planet earth
            climate-change?
            But Why?
            The simple answer is hell yeah, and here is the real reason why!

            CNN Mr. Jack Cafferty chimes suggesting that Climate Change is NOT caused
            by CO2 emissions!
            __________________________________________________________
            Al Gore called global warming "An Inconvenient Truth"... but suddenly a lot
            of people are asking what the truth really is. It's been dubbed
            ClimateGate.<http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/02/has-scientific-community-has-been-honest-about-global-warming/
            > CNN: caffertyfile, Has scientific community been honest about global
            warming?

            ZetaTalk: When Lies Fail [written Feb 17, 2006]
            When the cover-ups on the alien presence and the approach of Planet X first
            started, back in the days of Roswell, this was to be primarily supression of
            information, along with some fear inducing disinformation to keep people
            from pursuing the matter. UFO's were routinely called swamp gas and weather
            balloons, and the CIA spread rumors of aliens in underground chambers eating
            human body parts floating in vats. This involved NASA air brushing UFO's out
            of photos, suppression of real UFO sightings in the news, project Blue Book,
            government sponsored skeptics prominent in the media, and faked eye witness
            reports. This is still the mode today, almost 60 years later, though the
            mechanisms have failed. They were overrun with genuine reports of contactee
            experiences, many using the Internet to spread the word, and mass sightings
            where thousands would view a UFO blitz, simultaneously, so the news seeped
            past the media suppression, forcing the media to address
            the issue to avoid the appearance of a controlled suppression. What is to be
            learned from the breakdown of the cover-up on the alien presence? Sheer
            volume of information, truth, overruns and counters a cover-up and
            disinformation.
            How might this apply to the cover-up on Planet X? Unlike the alien presence,
            which was palpable at the time of Roswell, presenting itself with crashed
            ships and alien bodies and front page news coverage, Planet X was not
            expected to become an issue for decades. They had time. Thus, the cover-up
            has not yet broken down by the sheer volumn of information, or truth
            countering disinformation, but this process is evident. The plan was to
            claim and blame an erratic Sun for magnetic irregularities, asteroid swarms
            to explain the increase in fireballs, global warming to explain the melting
            glaciers and poles, and periodic climate change to cover weather
            irregularities. Since panic in the public could be assumed to be a national
            security threat, coercing the media and scientists and those in the know to
            cooperate with the cover-up was simply a matter of imposing a nation
            security oath on anyone needed to cooperate. But they did not know what to
            expect, nor could
            they imagine what to expect, and thus there are holes in the plan. Lies come
            with many faces.
            More at: <http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta262.htm>

            The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
            salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
          • broali4x
            Please sir massa, All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
            Message 5 of 16 , Dec 4, 2009
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              Please sir massa,
              All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
              where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or alledge
              that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
              If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
              You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!



              --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
              >
              > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
              > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
              >
              > 'ALL KNOWING'????
              > Please give your link."
              >
              > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
              > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or
              about
              > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
              > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
              > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
              communication
              > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
              and
              > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
              > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
              > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
              >
              > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
              >
              > Regan
              >
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: broali4x
              > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
              > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
              CO2, The
              > Sun, or PX?
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
              > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
              >
              > "ALL KNOWING"????
              > Please give your link.
              >
              > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
              > >
              > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
              > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
              > answer
              > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
              > which you
              > > gave us (see below).
              > >
              > > Regan
              > >
              > >
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > From: nathaniel x vance
              > > To: dr.ibrahim@
              > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
              > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
              > The
              > > Sun, or PX?
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
              > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
              > portraying,
              > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
              > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
              > clamoring
              > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
              > case?
              > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
              > screeching
              > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
              > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
              some
              > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
              > supposed
              > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
              > the
              > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
              next?
              > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
              > explanation,
              > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
              > the
              > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
              > so-call CLIMATE
              > > CHANGE?
              > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
              > present earth
              > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
              Planet
              > X!
              > >
              > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
              > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
              > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
              Thousands
              > of
              > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
              > rigged,
              > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
              > story
              > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
              > > -
              > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
              > not the cause
              > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
              explain
              > many
              > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
              > and the
              > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
              > was
              > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
              > establishment are
              > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
              > pass at
              > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
              in
              > the
              > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
              > control to
              > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
              > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
              > is
              > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
              > line,
              > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
              > has
              > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
              not
              > sure
              > > how
              > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
              be,
              > if
              > > excuses can suffice.
              > > *
              > > _________________________________________________
              > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
              > >
              > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
              > on
              > > Climategate in Chicago
              > > -
              > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
              > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
              > “HIDE”
              > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
              > > -
              > >
              >
              <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
              \
              > -scientists-disagree/>
              > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
              > disagree that global
              > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
              > > Â -
              > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
              > petition
              > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
              > >
              > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
              > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
              >




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            • masanga@talktalk.net
              I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you cannot read plain English I m afraid that is not my fault and you have no grounds to accuse
              Message 6 of 16 , Dec 4, 2009
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                I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have no
                grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.

                In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.

                Regan


                ----- Original Message -----
                From: broali4x
                To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                Sun, or PX?




                Please sir massa,
                All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or alledge
                that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!

                --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                >
                > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
                >
                > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                > Please give your link."
                >
                > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or
                about
                > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
                > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                communication
                > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                and
                > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                >
                > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                >
                > Regan
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: broali4x
                > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                CO2, The
                > Sun, or PX?
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
                >
                > "ALL KNOWING"????
                > Please give your link.
                >
                > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                > >
                > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
                > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
                > answer
                > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                > which you
                > > gave us (see below).
                > >
                > > Regan
                > >
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: nathaniel x vance
                > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
                > The
                > > Sun, or PX?
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                > portraying,
                > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                > clamoring
                > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                > case?
                > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                > screeching
                > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                some
                > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                > supposed
                > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
                > the
                > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                next?
                > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                > explanation,
                > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
                > the
                > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                > so-call CLIMATE
                > > CHANGE?
                > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                > present earth
                > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                Planet
                > X!
                > >
                > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                Thousands
                > of
                > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                > rigged,
                > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
                > story
                > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                > > -
                > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
                > not the cause
                > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                explain
                > many
                > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
                > and the
                > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
                > was
                > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                > establishment are
                > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                > pass at
                > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                in
                > the
                > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                > control to
                > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
                > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
                > is
                > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
                > line,
                > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
                > has
                > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                not
                > sure
                > > how
                > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                be,
                > if
                > > excuses can suffice.
                > > *
                > > _________________________________________________
                > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                > >
                > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
                > on
                > > Climategate in Chicago
                > > -
                > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
                > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                > “HIDE�
                > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                > > -
                > >
                >
                <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                \
                > -scientists-disagree/>
                > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                > disagree that global
                > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                > > Â -
                > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                > petition
                > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                > >
                > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
              • broali4x
                Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                Message 7 of 16 , Dec 5, 2009
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                  Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                  you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                  <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                  <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                  By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.

                  --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                  > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have
                  no
                  > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                  >
                  > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                  > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                  >
                  > Regan
                  >
                  >
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: broali4x
                  > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                  > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                  CO2, The
                  > Sun, or PX?
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Please sir massa,
                  > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                  > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                  alledge
                  > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                  > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                  > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                  >
                  > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                  > >
                  > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                  you
                  > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                  are
                  > >
                  > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                  > > Please give your link."
                  > >
                  > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                  > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards,
                  or
                  > about
                  > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                  > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                  are
                  > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                  > communication
                  > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                  > and
                  > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                  > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                  > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                  > >
                  > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                  > >
                  > > Regan
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > From: broali4x
                  > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                  > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                  > CO2, The
                  > > Sun, or PX?
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                  > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                  are
                  > >
                  > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                  > > Please give your link.
                  > >
                  > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X
                  is
                  > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                  their
                  > > answer
                  > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                  > > which you
                  > > > gave us (see below).
                  > > >
                  > > > Regan
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                  > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                  > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                  > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                  CO2,
                  > > The
                  > > > Sun, or PX?
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                  > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                  > > portraying,
                  > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                  > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                  > > clamoring
                  > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                  > > case?
                  > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                  > > screeching
                  > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                  > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                  > some
                  > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                  > > supposed
                  > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                  all
                  > > the
                  > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                  > next?
                  > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                  > > explanation,
                  > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                  find
                  > > the
                  > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                  > > so-call CLIMATE
                  > > > CHANGE?
                  > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                  > > present earth
                  > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                  > Planet
                  > > X!
                  > > >
                  > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                  > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                  > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                  > Thousands
                  > > of
                  > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                  > > rigged,
                  > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                  the
                  > > story
                  > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                  > > > -
                  > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                  is
                  > > not the cause
                  > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                  > explain
                  > > many
                  > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                  media
                  > > and the
                  > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                  Warming
                  > > was
                  > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                  > > establishment are
                  > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                  > > pass at
                  > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                  > in
                  > > the
                  > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                  > > control to
                  > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                  Bush,
                  > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                  media
                  > > is
                  > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                  the
                  > > line,
                  > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                  leak
                  > > has
                  > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                  > not
                  > > sure
                  > > > how
                  > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                  > be,
                  > > if
                  > > > excuses can suffice.
                  > > > *
                  > > > _________________________________________________
                  > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                  > > >
                  > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                  confronted
                  > > on
                  > > > Climategate in Chicago
                  > > > -
                  > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                  Climate
                  > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                  > > “HIDE”
                  > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                  > > > -
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                  <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                  \
                  > \
                  > > -scientists-disagree/>
                  > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                  > > disagree that global
                  > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                  > > > Â -
                  > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                  > > petition
                  > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                  > > >
                  > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                  > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                  >




                  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                • masanga@talktalk.net
                  Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                  Message 8 of 16 , Dec 6, 2009
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                    "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                    you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                    <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                    <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"

                    Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin and
                    cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of how
                    Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.

                    Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept that
                    their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is true!

                    You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing climate
                    change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                    referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                    Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?

                    "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir."

                    No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would they?
                    I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using the
                    literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing Zeta",
                    meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they really
                    are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?

                    I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                    change on earth at the present time.

                    Regan


                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: broali4x
                    To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                    Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                    Sun, or PX?





                    Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                    you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                    <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                    <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                    By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.

                    --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                    > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have
                    no
                    > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                    >
                    > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                    > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                    >
                    > Regan
                    >
                    >
                    > ----- Original Message -----
                    > From: broali4x
                    > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                    > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    CO2, The
                    > Sun, or PX?
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Please sir massa,
                    > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                    > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                    alledge
                    > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                    > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                    > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                    >
                    > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                    > >
                    > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                    you
                    > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                    are
                    > >
                    > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                    > > Please give your link."
                    > >
                    > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                    > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards,
                    or
                    > about
                    > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                    > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                    are
                    > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                    > communication
                    > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                    > and
                    > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                    > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                    > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                    > >
                    > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                    > >
                    > > Regan
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > From: broali4x
                    > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                    > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    > CO2, The
                    > > Sun, or PX?
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                    > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                    are
                    > >
                    > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                    > > Please give your link.
                    > >
                    > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X
                    is
                    > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                    their
                    > > answer
                    > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                    > > which you
                    > > > gave us (see below).
                    > > >
                    > > > Regan
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                    > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                    > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                    > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    CO2,
                    > > The
                    > > > Sun, or PX?
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                    > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                    > > portraying,
                    > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                    > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                    > > clamoring
                    > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                    > > case?
                    > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                    > > screeching
                    > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                    > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                    > some
                    > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                    > > supposed
                    > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                    all
                    > > the
                    > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                    > next?
                    > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                    > > explanation,
                    > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                    find
                    > > the
                    > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                    > > so-call CLIMATE
                    > > > CHANGE?
                    > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                    > > present earth
                    > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                    > Planet
                    > > X!
                    > > >
                    > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                    > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                    > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                    > Thousands
                    > > of
                    > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                    > > rigged,
                    > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                    the
                    > > story
                    > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                    > > > -
                    > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                    is
                    > > not the cause
                    > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                    > explain
                    > > many
                    > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                    media
                    > > and the
                    > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                    Warming
                    > > was
                    > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                    > > establishment are
                    > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                    > > pass at
                    > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                    > in
                    > > the
                    > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                    > > control to
                    > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                    Bush,
                    > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                    media
                    > > is
                    > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                    the
                    > > line,
                    > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                    leak
                    > > has
                    > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                    > not
                    > > sure
                    > > > how
                    > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                    > be,
                    > > if
                    > > > excuses can suffice.
                    > > > *
                    > > > _________________________________________________
                    > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                    > > >
                    > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                    confronted
                    > > on
                    > > > Climategate in Chicago
                    > > > -
                    > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                    Climate
                    > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                    > > “HIDE�
                    > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                    > > > -
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
                    <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                    \
                    > \
                    > > -scientists-disagree/>
                    > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                    > > disagree that global
                    > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                    > > > Â -
                    > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                    > > petition
                    > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                    > > >
                    > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                    > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                  • broali4x
                    Dear masanga, If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal weather
                    Message 9 of 16 , Dec 7, 2009
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                      Dear masanga,
                      If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                      cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                      weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                      attributable denial!
                      All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                      forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                      become a witness as ell at such time!
                      I already have MY proof, sir.

                      --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                      since
                      > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                      > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                      > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                      >
                      > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                      and
                      > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of
                      how
                      > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                      >
                      > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                      that
                      > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                      true!
                      >
                      > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                      climate
                      > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                      > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                      > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                      >
                      > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                      sir."
                      >
                      > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would
                      they?
                      > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using
                      the
                      > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                      Zeta",
                      > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                      really
                      > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                      >
                      > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                      climate
                      > change on earth at the present time.
                      >
                      > Regan
                      >
                      >
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: broali4x
                      > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                      > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      CO2, The
                      > Sun, or PX?
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                      since
                      > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                      > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                      > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                      > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.
                      >
                      > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                      > >
                      > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                      > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                      have
                      > no
                      > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                      > >
                      > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                      > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                      > >
                      > > Regan
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > From: broali4x
                      > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                      > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      > CO2, The
                      > > Sun, or PX?
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Please sir massa,
                      > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                      to
                      > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                      > alledge
                      > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                      > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                      > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                      > >
                      > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                      > you
                      > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                      > are
                      > > >
                      > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                      > > > Please give your link."
                      > > >
                      > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                      seems
                      > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                      towards,
                      > or
                      > > about
                      > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                      repeatedly
                      > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                      > are
                      > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                      > > communication
                      > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                      all
                      > > and
                      > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                      have
                      > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                      > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                      > > >
                      > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                      > > >
                      > > > Regan
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > From: broali4x
                      > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                      > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                      CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      > > CO2, The
                      > > > Sun, or PX?
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                      you
                      > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                      > are
                      > > >
                      > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                      > > > Please give your link.
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet
                      X
                      > is
                      > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                      > their
                      > > > answer
                      > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                      scandal
                      > > > which you
                      > > > > gave us (see below).
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Regan
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                      > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                      > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                      > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      > CO2,
                      > > > The
                      > > > > Sun, or PX?
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                      > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                      > > > portraying,
                      > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                      forlorn
                      > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                      > > > clamoring
                      > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                      the
                      > > > case?
                      > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                      slowly
                      > > > screeching
                      > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                      > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                      > > some
                      > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                      > > > supposed
                      > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                      > all
                      > > > the
                      > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                      > > next?
                      > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                      > > > explanation,
                      > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                      > find
                      > > > the
                      > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                      causing
                      > > > so-call CLIMATE
                      > > > > CHANGE?
                      > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                      > > > present earth
                      > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                      > > Planet
                      > > > X!
                      > > > >
                      > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                      > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                      > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                      > > Thousands
                      > > > of
                      > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                      > > > rigged,
                      > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                      > the
                      > > > story
                      > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                      > > > > -
                      > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                      > is
                      > > > not the cause
                      > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                      > > explain
                      > > > many
                      > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                      > media
                      > > > and the
                      > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                      > Warming
                      > > > was
                      > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                      > > > establishment are
                      > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely
                      to
                      > > > pass at
                      > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                      panic
                      > > in
                      > > > the
                      > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                      > > > control to
                      > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                      > Bush,
                      > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                      > media
                      > > > is
                      > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                      > the
                      > > > line,
                      > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                      > leak
                      > > > has
                      > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                      and
                      > > not
                      > > > sure
                      > > > > how
                      > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                      might
                      > > be,
                      > > > if
                      > > > > excuses can suffice.
                      > > > > *
                      > > > > _________________________________________________
                      > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                      > confronted
                      > > > on
                      > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                      > > > > -
                      > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                      > Climate
                      > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                      to
                      > > > “HIDE”
                      > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                      > > > > -
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      >
                      <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                      \
                      > \
                      > > \
                      > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                      > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                      > > > disagree that global
                      > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                      > > > > Â -
                      > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                      > > > petition
                      > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                      > > > >
                      > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                      > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                      >




                      [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    • masanga@talktalk.net
                      broali4x wrote: Dear masanga, If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing
                      Message 10 of 16 , Dec 7, 2009
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                        broali4x wrote:

                        "Dear masanga,
                        If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                        cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                        weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                        attributable denial!"

                        Dear broali4x,

                        I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY it is
                        supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest of it.

                        I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                        would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                        telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk web-site for
                        my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your promise
                        and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what you
                        say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?

                        "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                        forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                        become a witness as ell at such time!"

                        Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you made
                        when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for proof
                        but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us that
                        you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my breath
                        waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either. I'll
                        believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.

                        "I already have MY proof, sir."

                        Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                        providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site where
                        the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on
                        earth, should you?

                        Regan


                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: broali4x
                        To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                        Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                        Sun, or PX?





                        Dear masanga,
                        If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                        cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                        weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                        attributable denial!
                        All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                        forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                        become a witness as ell at such time!
                        I already have MY proof, sir.

                        --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                        since
                        > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                        > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                        > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                        >
                        > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                        and
                        > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of
                        how
                        > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                        >
                        > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                        that
                        > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                        true!
                        >
                        > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                        climate
                        > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                        > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                        > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                        >
                        > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                        sir."
                        >
                        > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would
                        they?
                        > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using
                        the
                        > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                        Zeta",
                        > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                        really
                        > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                        >
                        > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                        climate
                        > change on earth at the present time.
                        >
                        > Regan
                        >
                        >
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: broali4x
                        > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                        > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        CO2, The
                        > Sun, or PX?
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                        since
                        > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                        > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                        > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                        > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.
                        >
                        > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > >
                        > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                        > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                        have
                        > no
                        > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                        > >
                        > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                        > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                        > >
                        > > Regan
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > From: broali4x
                        > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                        > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > CO2, The
                        > > Sun, or PX?
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Please sir massa,
                        > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                        to
                        > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                        > alledge
                        > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                        > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                        > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                        > >
                        > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                        > you
                        > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                        > are
                        > > >
                        > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                        > > > Please give your link."
                        > > >
                        > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                        seems
                        > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                        towards,
                        > or
                        > > about
                        > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                        repeatedly
                        > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                        > are
                        > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                        > > communication
                        > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                        all
                        > > and
                        > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                        have
                        > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                        > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                        > > >
                        > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                        > > >
                        > > > Regan
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > From: broali4x
                        > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                        > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                        CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > > CO2, The
                        > > > Sun, or PX?
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                        you
                        > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                        > are
                        > > >
                        > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                        > > > Please give your link.
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet
                        X
                        > is
                        > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                        > their
                        > > > answer
                        > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                        scandal
                        > > > which you
                        > > > > gave us (see below).
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Regan
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                        > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                        > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                        > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > CO2,
                        > > > The
                        > > > > Sun, or PX?
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                        > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                        > > > portraying,
                        > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                        forlorn
                        > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                        > > > clamoring
                        > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                        the
                        > > > case?
                        > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                        slowly
                        > > > screeching
                        > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                        > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                        > > some
                        > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                        > > > supposed
                        > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                        > all
                        > > > the
                        > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                        > > next?
                        > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                        > > > explanation,
                        > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                        > find
                        > > > the
                        > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                        causing
                        > > > so-call CLIMATE
                        > > > > CHANGE?
                        > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                        > > > present earth
                        > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                        > > Planet
                        > > > X!
                        > > > >
                        > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                        > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                        > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                        > > Thousands
                        > > > of
                        > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                        > > > rigged,
                        > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                        > the
                        > > > story
                        > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                        > > > > -
                        > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                        > is
                        > > > not the cause
                        > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                        > > explain
                        > > > many
                        > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                        > media
                        > > > and the
                        > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                        > Warming
                        > > > was
                        > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                        > > > establishment are
                        > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely
                        to
                        > > > pass at
                        > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                        panic
                        > > in
                        > > > the
                        > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                        > > > control to
                        > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                        > Bush,
                        > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                        > media
                        > > > is
                        > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                        > the
                        > > > line,
                        > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                        > leak
                        > > > has
                        > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                        and
                        > > not
                        > > > sure
                        > > > > how
                        > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                        might
                        > > be,
                        > > > if
                        > > > > excuses can suffice.
                        > > > > *
                        > > > > _________________________________________________
                        > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                        > confronted
                        > > > on
                        > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                        > > > > -
                        > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                        > Climate
                        > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                        to
                        > > > “HIDE�
                        > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                        > > > > -
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        >
                        <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                        \
                        > \
                        > > \
                        > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                        > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                        > > > disagree that global
                        > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                        > > > > Â -
                        > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                        > > > petition
                        > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                        > > > >
                        > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                        > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                        >
                      • broali4x
                        dear masanga, You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma whom you are privy to demand a change. Again, one again and for the
                        Message 11 of 16 , Dec 8, 2009
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                          dear masanga,
                          You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                          whom you are privy to demand a change.
                          Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                          Am i clear!



                          --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > broali4x wrote:
                          >
                          > "Dear masanga,
                          > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                          > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                          > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                          > attributable denial!"
                          >
                          > Dear broali4x,
                          >
                          > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY
                          it is
                          > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest
                          of it.
                          >
                          > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                          > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                          > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                          web-site for
                          > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                          promise
                          > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what
                          you
                          > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                          >
                          > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                          > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                          > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                          >
                          > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you
                          made
                          > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for
                          proof
                          > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                          that
                          > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my
                          breath
                          > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                          I'll
                          > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                          >
                          > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                          >
                          > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                          > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site
                          where
                          > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change
                          on
                          > earth, should you?
                          >
                          > Regan
                          >
                          >
                          > ----- Original Message -----
                          > From: broali4x
                          > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                          > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          CO2, The
                          > Sun, or PX?
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Dear masanga,
                          > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                          > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                          > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                          > attributable denial!
                          > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                          > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                          > become a witness as ell at such time!
                          > I already have MY proof, sir.
                          >
                          > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > >
                          > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                          > since
                          > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                          > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                          > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                          > >
                          > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                          > and
                          > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation
                          of
                          > how
                          > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                          > >
                          > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                          > that
                          > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                          > true!
                          > >
                          > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                          > climate
                          > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off
                          by
                          > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                          instead!
                          > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                          > >
                          > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                          > sir."
                          > >
                          > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                          would
                          > they?
                          > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                          using
                          > the
                          > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                          > Zeta",
                          > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                          > really
                          > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                          > >
                          > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                          > climate
                          > > change on earth at the present time.
                          > >
                          > > Regan
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > From: broali4x
                          > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                          > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > CO2, The
                          > > Sun, or PX?
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                          > since
                          > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                          > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                          > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                          > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                          sir.
                          > >
                          > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                          > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                          > have
                          > > no
                          > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                          > > >
                          > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                          > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                          > > >
                          > > > Regan
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > From: broali4x
                          > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                          > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                          CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > > CO2, The
                          > > > Sun, or PX?
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Please sir massa,
                          > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                          > to
                          > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                          > > alledge
                          > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                          > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                          > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                          have
                          > > you
                          > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                          sisters
                          > > are
                          > > > >
                          > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                          > > > > Please give your link."
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                          > seems
                          > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                          > towards,
                          > > or
                          > > > about
                          > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                          > repeatedly
                          > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                          angels
                          > > are
                          > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                          > > > communication
                          > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                          > all
                          > > > and
                          > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                          > have
                          > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                          be
                          > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                          > > > >
                          > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Regan
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > From: broali4x
                          > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                          > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                          > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > > > CO2, The
                          > > > > Sun, or PX?
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                          > you
                          > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                          sisters
                          > > are
                          > > > >
                          > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                          > > > > Please give your link.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                          Planet
                          > X
                          > > is
                          > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                          > > their
                          > > > > answer
                          > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                          > scandal
                          > > > > which you
                          > > > > > gave us (see below).
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > Regan
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                          > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                          > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                          > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                          CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > > CO2,
                          > > > > The
                          > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                          > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                          is
                          > > > > portraying,
                          > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                          > forlorn
                          > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                          vehemently
                          > > > > clamoring
                          > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                          > the
                          > > > > case?
                          > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                          > slowly
                          > > > > screeching
                          > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                          > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed
                          in
                          > > > some
                          > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                          the
                          > > > > supposed
                          > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                          for
                          > > all
                          > > > > the
                          > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will
                          be
                          > > > next?
                          > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                          > > > > explanation,
                          > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                          may
                          > > find
                          > > > > the
                          > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                          > causing
                          > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                          > > > > > CHANGE?
                          > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                          the
                          > > > > present earth
                          > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                          aka
                          > > > Planet
                          > > > > X!
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                          > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                          > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                          > > > Thousands
                          > > > > of
                          > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                          were
                          > > > > rigged,
                          > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                          What's
                          > > the
                          > > > > story
                          > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                          > > > > > -
                          > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                          stated,
                          > > is
                          > > > > not the cause
                          > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                          > > > explain
                          > > > > many
                          > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                          > > media
                          > > > > and the
                          > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                          > > Warming
                          > > > > was
                          > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                          > > > > establishment are
                          > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                          likely
                          > to
                          > > > > pass at
                          > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                          > panic
                          > > > in
                          > > > > the
                          > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                          their
                          > > > > control to
                          > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                          > > Bush,
                          > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                          > > media
                          > > > > is
                          > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                          tout
                          > > the
                          > > > > line,
                          > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that
                          a
                          > > leak
                          > > > > has
                          > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                          > and
                          > > > not
                          > > > > sure
                          > > > > > how
                          > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                          > might
                          > > > be,
                          > > > > if
                          > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                          > > > > > *
                          > > > > > _________________________________________________
                          > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                          above:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                          > > confronted
                          > > > > on
                          > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                          > > > > > -
                          > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                          > > Climate
                          > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                          > to
                          > > > > “HIDE”
                          > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                          > > > > > -
                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >
                          <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                          \
                          > \
                          > > \
                          > > > \
                          > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                          > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                          scientistsÂ
                          > > > > disagree that global
                          > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                          > > > > > Â -
                          > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed
                          a
                          > > > > petition
                          > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                          > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                          > >
                          >
                        • masanga@talktalk.net
                          I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on another and have just read broali4x s latest desultory address to me. Good grief! I see that he
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                            I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                            another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me. Good
                            grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                            embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:

                            "dear masanga,
                            You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                            whom you are privy to demand a change.
                            Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                            Am i clear!"

                            I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                            mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my simple
                            and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                            change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I was a
                            baby and he was my "momma"!

                            I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                            question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean, why is
                            it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent explanation"
                            given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my question
                            himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the Zeta's
                            explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest of my
                            lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the entire
                            ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being very
                            helpful, is he? Hardly STO!

                            He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                            someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                            misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all that
                            by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                            commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I think I
                            can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by "the
                            source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a link
                            to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it! How
                            can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                            archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally opaque
                            about that matter!

                            And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                            his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet calculated to
                            trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake down any
                            tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics are
                            easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because they can
                            see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no danger to
                            them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to fall
                            foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                            infantile cult-building scams!

                            Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                            that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X is
                            supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                            dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                            question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while he
                            diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                            irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are "all-knowing".
                            But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                            again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                            through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at him
                            with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on similar
                            endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I confronted
                            him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question when it
                            was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                            finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                            reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.

                            To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                            that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in these
                            unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position would
                            have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I don't
                            personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about it on
                            the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of use to
                            you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to it."

                            I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                            me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                            mirror to the self.

                            Regan


                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: broali4x
                            To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                            Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                            Sun, or PX?





                            dear masanga,
                            You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                            whom you are privy to demand a change.
                            Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                            Am i clear!

                            --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > broali4x wrote:
                            >
                            > "Dear masanga,
                            > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                            > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                            > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                            > attributable denial!"
                            >
                            > Dear broali4x,
                            >
                            > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY
                            it is
                            > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest
                            of it.
                            >
                            > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                            > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                            > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                            web-site for
                            > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                            promise
                            > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what
                            you
                            > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                            >
                            > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                            > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                            > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                            >
                            > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you
                            made
                            > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for
                            proof
                            > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                            that
                            > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my
                            breath
                            > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                            I'll
                            > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                            >
                            > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                            >
                            > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                            > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site
                            where
                            > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change
                            on
                            > earth, should you?
                            >
                            > Regan
                            >
                            >
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: broali4x
                            > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                            > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            CO2, The
                            > Sun, or PX?
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Dear masanga,
                            > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                            > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                            > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                            > attributable denial!
                            > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                            > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                            > become a witness as ell at such time!
                            > I already have MY proof, sir.
                            >
                            > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > >
                            > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                            > since
                            > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                            > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                            > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                            > >
                            > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                            > and
                            > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation
                            of
                            > how
                            > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                            > >
                            > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                            > that
                            > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                            > true!
                            > >
                            > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                            > climate
                            > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off
                            by
                            > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                            instead!
                            > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                            > >
                            > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                            > sir."
                            > >
                            > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                            would
                            > they?
                            > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                            using
                            > the
                            > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                            > Zeta",
                            > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                            > really
                            > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                            > >
                            > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                            > climate
                            > > change on earth at the present time.
                            > >
                            > > Regan
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > From: broali4x
                            > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                            > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > CO2, The
                            > > Sun, or PX?
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                            > since
                            > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                            > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                            > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                            > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                            sir.
                            > >
                            > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                            > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                            > have
                            > > no
                            > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                            > > >
                            > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                            > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                            > > >
                            > > > Regan
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > From: broali4x
                            > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                            > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                            CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > CO2, The
                            > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Please sir massa,
                            > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                            > to
                            > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                            > > alledge
                            > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                            > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                            > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                            have
                            > > you
                            > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                            sisters
                            > > are
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                            > > > > Please give your link."
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                            > seems
                            > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                            > towards,
                            > > or
                            > > > about
                            > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                            > repeatedly
                            > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                            angels
                            > > are
                            > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                            > > > communication
                            > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                            > all
                            > > > and
                            > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                            > have
                            > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                            be
                            > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Regan
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > From: broali4x
                            > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                            > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                            > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > > CO2, The
                            > > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                            > you
                            > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                            sisters
                            > > are
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                            > > > > Please give your link.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                            Planet
                            > X
                            > > is
                            > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                            > > their
                            > > > > answer
                            > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                            > scandal
                            > > > > which you
                            > > > > > gave us (see below).
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Regan
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                            > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                            > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                            > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                            CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > CO2,
                            > > > > The
                            > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                            > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                            is
                            > > > > portraying,
                            > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                            > forlorn
                            > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                            vehemently
                            > > > > clamoring
                            > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                            > the
                            > > > > case?
                            > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                            > slowly
                            > > > > screeching
                            > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                            > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed
                            in
                            > > > some
                            > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                            the
                            > > > > supposed
                            > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                            for
                            > > all
                            > > > > the
                            > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will
                            be
                            > > > next?
                            > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                            > > > > explanation,
                            > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                            may
                            > > find
                            > > > > the
                            > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                            > causing
                            > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                            > > > > > CHANGE?
                            > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                            the
                            > > > > present earth
                            > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                            aka
                            > > > Planet
                            > > > > X!
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                            > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                            > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                            > > > Thousands
                            > > > > of
                            > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                            were
                            > > > > rigged,
                            > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                            What's
                            > > the
                            > > > > story
                            > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                            > > > > > -
                            > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                            stated,
                            > > is
                            > > > > not the cause
                            > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                            > > > explain
                            > > > > many
                            > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                            > > media
                            > > > > and the
                            > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                            > > Warming
                            > > > > was
                            > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                            > > > > establishment are
                            > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                            likely
                            > to
                            > > > > pass at
                            > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                            > panic
                            > > > in
                            > > > > the
                            > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                            their
                            > > > > control to
                            > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                            > > Bush,
                            > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                            > > media
                            > > > > is
                            > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                            tout
                            > > the
                            > > > > line,
                            > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that
                            a
                            > > leak
                            > > > > has
                            > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                            > and
                            > > > not
                            > > > > sure
                            > > > > > how
                            > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                            > might
                            > > > be,
                            > > > > if
                            > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                            > > > > > *
                            > > > > > _________________________________________________
                            > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                            above:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                            > > confronted
                            > > > > on
                            > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                            > > > > > -
                            > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                            > > Climate
                            > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                            > to
                            > > > > “HIDE�
                            > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                            > > > > > -
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            >
                            <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                            \
                            > \
                            > > \
                            > > > \
                            > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                            > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                            scientistsÂ
                            > > > > disagree that global
                            > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                            > > > > > Â -
                            > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed
                            a
                            > > > > petition
                            > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                            > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                          • broali4x
                            Dear Mr. Massaggga, You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers, but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
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                              Dear Mr. Massaggga,
                              You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                              but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                              intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                              Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran.
                              At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                              Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                              Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                              night around the clock. Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                              if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                              wicked!
                              Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                              Jambo



                              --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                              > another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me.
                              Good
                              > grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                              > embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:
                              >
                              > "dear masanga,
                              > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                              momma
                              > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                              > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                              > Am i clear!"
                              >
                              > I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                              > mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my
                              simple
                              > and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                              climate
                              > change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I
                              was a
                              > baby and he was my "momma"!
                              >
                              > I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                              > question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean,
                              why is
                              > it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent
                              explanation"
                              > given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my
                              question
                              > himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the
                              Zeta's
                              > explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest
                              of my
                              > lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the
                              entire
                              > ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being
                              very
                              > helpful, is he? Hardly STO!
                              >
                              > He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                              > someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                              > misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all
                              that
                              > by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                              > commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I
                              think I
                              > can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by
                              "the
                              > source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a
                              link
                              > to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it!
                              How
                              > can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                              > archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally
                              opaque
                              > about that matter!
                              >
                              > And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                              > his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet
                              calculated to
                              > trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake
                              down any
                              > tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics
                              are
                              > easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because
                              they can
                              > see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no
                              danger to
                              > them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to
                              fall
                              > foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                              > infantile cult-building scams!
                              >
                              > Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                              > that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X
                              is
                              > supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                              > dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                              > question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while
                              he
                              > diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                              > irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are
                              "all-knowing".
                              > But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                              > again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                              > through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at
                              him
                              > with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on
                              similar
                              > endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I
                              confronted
                              > him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question
                              when it
                              > was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                              > finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                              > reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.
                              >
                              > To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                              > that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in
                              these
                              > unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position
                              would
                              > have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I
                              don't
                              > personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about
                              it on
                              > the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of
                              use to
                              > you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to
                              it."
                              >
                              > I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                              > me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                              > mirror to the self.
                              >
                              > Regan
                              >
                              >
                              > ----- Original Message -----
                              > From: broali4x
                              > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                              > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              CO2, The
                              > Sun, or PX?
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > dear masanga,
                              > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                              momma
                              > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                              > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                              > Am i clear!
                              >
                              > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > >
                              > > broali4x wrote:
                              > >
                              > > "Dear masanga,
                              > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                              > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                              > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                              > > attributable denial!"
                              > >
                              > > Dear broali4x,
                              > >
                              > > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not
                              WHY
                              > it is
                              > > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the
                              rest
                              > of it.
                              > >
                              > > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that
                              YOU
                              > > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you
                              are
                              > > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                              > web-site for
                              > > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                              > promise
                              > > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean
                              what
                              > you
                              > > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                              > >
                              > > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                              be
                              > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                              to
                              > > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                              > >
                              > > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one
                              you
                              > made
                              > > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request
                              for
                              > proof
                              > > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                              > that
                              > > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold
                              my
                              > breath
                              > > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                              > I'll
                              > > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                              > >
                              > > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                              > >
                              > > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                              > > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk
                              web-site
                              > where
                              > > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                              change
                              > on
                              > > earth, should you?
                              > >
                              > > Regan
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > From: broali4x
                              > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                              > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > CO2, The
                              > > Sun, or PX?
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Dear masanga,
                              > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                              > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                              > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                              > > attributable denial!
                              > > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                              be
                              > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                              to
                              > > become a witness as ell at such time!
                              > > I already have MY proof, sir.
                              > >
                              > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your
                              question
                              > > since
                              > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                              > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                              > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                              > > >
                              > > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the
                              Kolbrin
                              > > and
                              > > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an
                              explanation
                              > of
                              > > how
                              > > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                              > > >
                              > > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to
                              accept
                              > > that
                              > > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                              > > true!
                              > > >
                              > > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                              > > climate
                              > > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me
                              off
                              > by
                              > > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                              > instead!
                              > > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                              > > >
                              > > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                              > > sir."
                              > > >
                              > > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                              > would
                              > > they?
                              > > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                              > using
                              > > the
                              > > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the
                              all-knowing
                              > > Zeta",
                              > > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                              > > really
                              > > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                              > > >
                              > > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                              > > climate
                              > > > change on earth at the present time.
                              > > >
                              > > > Regan
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > From: broali4x
                              > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                              > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                              CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > CO2, The
                              > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                              > > since
                              > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                              > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                              > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                              > > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                              > sir.
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If
                              you
                              > > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and
                              you
                              > > have
                              > > > no
                              > > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you
                              said
                              > > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that
                              Nathaniel.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Regan
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > From: broali4x
                              > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                              > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                              > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > > CO2, The
                              > > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Please sir massa,
                              > > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a
                              link
                              > > to
                              > > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                              > > > alledge
                              > > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                              > > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                              > > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and
                              switch!
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                              > have
                              > > > you
                              > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                              > sisters
                              > > > are
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                              > > > > > Please give your link."
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                              > > seems
                              > > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                              > > towards,
                              > > > or
                              > > > > about
                              > > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                              > > repeatedly
                              > > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                              > angels
                              > > > are
                              > > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                              > > > > communication
                              > > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven
                              sees
                              > > all
                              > > > > and
                              > > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's
                              ministers,
                              > > have
                              > > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                              > be
                              > > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Regan
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > > From: broali4x
                              > > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                              > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                              > > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > > > CO2, The
                              > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                              have
                              > > you
                              > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                              > sisters
                              > > > are
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                              > > > > > Please give your link.
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                              > Planet
                              > > X
                              > > > is
                              > > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained
                              in
                              > > > their
                              > > > > > answer
                              > > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                              > > scandal
                              > > > > > which you
                              > > > > > > gave us (see below).
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Regan
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                              > > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                              > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                              > > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                              > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > > CO2,
                              > > > > > The
                              > > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                              > > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                              > is
                              > > > > > portraying,
                              > > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                              > > forlorn
                              > > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                              > vehemently
                              > > > > > clamoring
                              > > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is
                              not
                              > > the
                              > > > > > case?
                              > > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                              > > slowly
                              > > > > > screeching
                              > > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                              > > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be
                              blamed
                              > in
                              > > > > some
                              > > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                              > the
                              > > > > > supposed
                              > > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                              > for
                              > > > all
                              > > > > > the
                              > > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens
                              will
                              > be
                              > > > > next?
                              > > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more
                              reasonable
                              > > > > > explanation,
                              > > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                              > may
                              > > > find
                              > > > > > the
                              > > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                              > > causing
                              > > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                              > > > > > > CHANGE?
                              > > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                              > the
                              > > > > > present earth
                              > > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                              > aka
                              > > > > Planet
                              > > > > > X!
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                              > > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                              > > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                              > > > > Thousands
                              > > > > > of
                              > > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                              > were
                              > > > > > rigged,
                              > > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                              > What's
                              > > > the
                              > > > > > story
                              > > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring
                              it?
                              > > > > > > -
                              > > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                              > stated,
                              > > > is
                              > > > > > not the cause
                              > > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen
                              to
                              > > > > explain
                              > > > > > many
                              > > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as
                              the
                              > > > media
                              > > > > > and the
                              > > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                              > > > Warming
                              > > > > > was
                              > > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                              > > > > > establishment are
                              > > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                              > likely
                              > > to
                              > > > > > pass at
                              > > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                              > > panic
                              > > > > in
                              > > > > > the
                              > > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                              > their
                              > > > > > control to
                              > > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that
                              under
                              > > > Bush,
                              > > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line.
                              The
                              > > > media
                              > > > > > is
                              > > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                              > tout
                              > > > the
                              > > > > > line,
                              > > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now
                              that
                              > a
                              > > > leak
                              > > > > > has
                              > > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are
                              stunned
                              > > and
                              > > > > not
                              > > > > > sure
                              > > > > > > how
                              > > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                              > > might
                              > > > > be,
                              > > > > > if
                              > > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                              > > > > > > *
                              > > > > > > _________________________________________________
                              > > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                              > above:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                              > > > confronted
                              > > > > > on
                              > > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                              > > > > > > -
                              > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                              > > > Climate
                              > > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing
                              conspiracy
                              > > to
                              > > > > > “HIDE”
                              > > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                              > > > > > > -
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > >
                              >
                              <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                              \
                              > \
                              > > \
                              > > > \
                              > > > > \
                              > > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                              > > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                              > scientistsÂ
                              > > > > > disagree that global
                              > > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                              > > > > > > Â -
                              > > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists
                              signed
                              > a
                              > > > > > petition
                              > > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the
                              RIGHTEOUS.
                              > > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                              >




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                            • masanga@talktalk.net
                              Hi folks, I see that Nathaniel is still intent upon being a pest and making a nuisance of himself. I realise that he cannot help doing it since he is not in
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                                Hi folks,

                                I see that Nathaniel is still intent upon being a pest and making a
                                nuisance of himself. I realise that he cannot help doing it since he is not
                                in control of himself, but what are we to do with him? He appears
                                determined to impose himself on us and to fight the Zeta's corner in the
                                manner of a crusade, so we cannot just ignore him. But he cannot discuss
                                anything reasonably or even stick to the point so we cannot engage him in
                                discussion or argue out any points with him either. He does not absorb any
                                information that you give him, is way out of his depth in every subject that
                                comes up here and seems to be functioning mentally on automatic pilot. So I
                                find myself wondering how someone who is exhibiting such a deep level of
                                unconsciousness can even get through their day, as well as why they have
                                come here to this forum and what they really need from us here.

                                He demands our attention but when we give it to him he does not like
                                what we find in him and reacts against it with hostility. But we are not
                                responsible for that. He is. So I propose to continue to give him the
                                attention that he is demanding and leave it to him to deal with whatever
                                problems my doing that may give him. And my way of doing that will be
                                to reply to his latest epistle conscientiously, bit by bit, one step at a
                                time.

                                He writes:

                                "Dear Mr. Massaggga,"

                                For reasons relating to the history of this thread I take it that he
                                is addressing his post to me, but my name is not Massaggga as everyone here
                                who is not a newcomer must know - everyone except Nathaniel, that is. "Mr
                                Massaggga" is a character that Nathaniel has invented and who exists only in
                                his imaginative mind. Why has he done this? Why can he not take in what
                                another person's name actually is and relate to that person as they are?
                                Why must he replace them in his mind with a character who he has dreamt up?
                                Who is this dream-person "Mr Massaggga"? Where in Nathaniel's mind and
                                being did he come from? He must be the part of Nathaniel's unknown self
                                whose name is "Mr Massaggga".

                                Apparently the Mr Massaggga-part of himself is not behaving
                                properly in Nathaniel's mind though, since he (Nathaniel) tells him:

                                "You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                                but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                                intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                                Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran."

                                It seems that Nathaniel is having a bit of trouble determining
                                who Mr Massaggga is too, in spite of the fact that he is Nathaniel's own
                                imaginary creation. Nathaniel describes him as being on the one hand like a
                                baby in soiled diapers but on the other like a sadist as exemplified in his
                                mind by Sese Siko Mobuto and the Shah of Iran. There is a big difference
                                between these two types of character, the helpless baby and the tyrannical
                                sadist, and I can imagine how perplexing it must be for Nathaniel not to be
                                able to tell one from the other. But since he is the creator of all the
                                characters who have appeared in his mind - Mr Massaggga, the baby, the
                                sadist, Mobuto and the Shah of Iran - they are all aspects of himself and he
                                is Mr Massaggga, the baby, the sadist, Mobuto, the Shah of Iran and whoever
                                else his imagination may dream up to inhabit his chaotic subjective
                                inner-world.

                                However, his next sentence shows us that he is not really interested
                                in resolving the question of who and what Mr Massaggga really is anyway
                                since he abandons that problem unsolved and gets on with what seems to him
                                to be the more important business of telling Mr Massaggga what to do. He
                                writes:

                                "At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                                Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                                Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                                night around the clock."

                                Evidently he has come a long way in his mind from the original
                                subject of this thread - Planet X as the cause of climate change - and that
                                has passed into oblivion for all he seems to care. The most urgent priority
                                in his mind is for this unknowable and unimportant Mr Massaggga to find out
                                how the wonderful, all-important Pres. Obama and his family are favored by
                                heaven and are enjoying divine protection continuously. Of course I can
                                only guess at why Nathaniel has seized upon Pres. Obama (and the Zeta) to
                                pin all his faith and hopes upon. I can only tell that this is what he
                                appears to have done and that he appears to be doing it with the kind of
                                religious zeal that only born saints possess. But their devotion is to God,
                                not a man, and Obama is a man, not God. The Zeta are not God either. So I
                                think Nathaniel is doing something very unwise by fixing his adulation on
                                the man Obama and the Zeta-beings and that he is practicing a degenerate
                                kind of religion in doing so. To me he is simply worshipping false idols.

                                I realise though that I could be misjudging him and I would not have
                                a problem with him worshipping these personages if he would just get on with
                                practicing his self-chosen religion and leave me and everyone else to
                                practice our own as well in peace. But it seems he cannot do that. Instead
                                he has to try to urge, cajole, browbeat and verbally-horsewhip everyone else
                                into worshipping his chosen deities too, even when it has nothing to do with
                                the topic under discussion and nothing to do with the purpose of this forum
                                either! Like the knights crusaders of old, it seems that our Nathaniel is
                                on a holy mission to conquer the world in the name of Obama and the Zeta, to
                                convert all of us unrighteous heathens to his new religion and to stamp
                                viciously on all who refuse to accept it and even upon those who simply dare
                                to question it!

                                He's got some hope! He has got "fundamentalist fanatic" written all
                                over him and people can see him coming. No-one is going to convert to his
                                religion because of his overbearing, aggressive and desultory efforts to
                                persuade them. Any fool can see that - well, any fool except Nathaniel, I
                                mean. But even if his beligerent, dogmatic personality was not sufficiently
                                off-putting to persuade everyone that any super-beings who he worships have
                                to be worth avoiding, there is also the threatening sub-text of his message
                                that you had better surrender and conform-or-else to make you want to run a
                                mile from him and his judgemental, domineering cult. He always ends on a
                                threateneing note which seeks to put the fear of God into the reader and
                                this time was no exception. He writes:

                                "Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                                if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                                wicked!
                                Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                                Jambo"

                                Oh my, oh my, just three more years in which to turn from our evil
                                ways and make ourselves ready to receive the final judgement of God Almighty
                                upon our souls! How will we ever be ready in time?

                                Regan


                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: broali4x
                                To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:53 AM
                                Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                                Sun, or PX?





                                Dear Mr. Massaggga,
                                You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                                but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                                intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                                Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran.
                                At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                                Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                                Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                                night around the clock. Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                                if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                                wicked!
                                Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                                Jambo

                                --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                                > another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me.
                                Good
                                > grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                                > embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:
                                >
                                > "dear masanga,
                                > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                                momma
                                > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                                > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                                > Am i clear!"
                                >
                                > I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                                > mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my
                                simple
                                > and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                                climate
                                > change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I
                                was a
                                > baby and he was my "momma"!
                                >
                                > I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                                > question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean,
                                why is
                                > it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent
                                explanation"
                                > given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my
                                question
                                > himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the
                                Zeta's
                                > explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest
                                of my
                                > lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the
                                entire
                                > ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being
                                very
                                > helpful, is he? Hardly STO!
                                >
                                > He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                                > someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                                > misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all
                                that
                                > by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                                > commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I
                                think I
                                > can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by
                                "the
                                > source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a
                                link
                                > to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it!
                                How
                                > can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                                > archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally
                                opaque
                                > about that matter!
                                >
                                > And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                                > his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet
                                calculated to
                                > trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake
                                down any
                                > tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics
                                are
                                > easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because
                                they can
                                > see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no
                                danger to
                                > them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to
                                fall
                                > foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                                > infantile cult-building scams!
                                >
                                > Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                                > that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X
                                is
                                > supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                                > dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                                > question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while
                                he
                                > diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                                > irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are
                                "all-knowing".
                                > But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                                > again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                                > through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at
                                him
                                > with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on
                                similar
                                > endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I
                                confronted
                                > him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question
                                when it
                                > was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                                > finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                                > reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.
                                >
                                > To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                                > that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in
                                these
                                > unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position
                                would
                                > have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I
                                don't
                                > personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about
                                it on
                                > the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of
                                use to
                                > you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to
                                it."
                                >
                                > I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                                > me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                                > mirror to the self.
                                >
                                > Regan
                                >
                                >
                                > ----- Original Message -----
                                > From: broali4x
                                > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                                > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                CO2, The
                                > Sun, or PX?
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > dear masanga,
                                > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                                momma
                                > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                                > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                                > Am i clear!
                                >
                                > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > >
                                > > broali4x wrote:
                                > >
                                > > "Dear masanga,
                                > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                                > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                                > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                                > > attributable denial!"
                                > >
                                > > Dear broali4x,
                                > >
                                > > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not
                                WHY
                                > it is
                                > > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the
                                rest
                                > of it.
                                > >
                                > > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that
                                YOU
                                > > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you
                                are
                                > > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                                > web-site for
                                > > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                                > promise
                                > > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean
                                what
                                > you
                                > > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                                > >
                                > > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                                be
                                > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                                to
                                > > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                                > >
                                > > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one
                                you
                                > made
                                > > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request
                                for
                                > proof
                                > > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                                > that
                                > > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold
                                my
                                > breath
                                > > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                                > I'll
                                > > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                                > >
                                > > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                                > >
                                > > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                                > > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk
                                web-site
                                > where
                                > > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                                change
                                > on
                                > > earth, should you?
                                > >
                                > > Regan
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > From: broali4x
                                > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                                > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > CO2, The
                                > > Sun, or PX?
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Dear masanga,
                                > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                                > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                                > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                                > > attributable denial!
                                > > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                                be
                                > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                                to
                                > > become a witness as ell at such time!
                                > > I already have MY proof, sir.
                                > >
                                > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your
                                question
                                > > since
                                > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                                > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                                > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                                > > >
                                > > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the
                                Kolbrin
                                > > and
                                > > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an
                                explanation
                                > of
                                > > how
                                > > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                                > > >
                                > > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to
                                accept
                                > > that
                                > > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                                > > true!
                                > > >
                                > > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                                > > climate
                                > > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me
                                off
                                > by
                                > > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                                > instead!
                                > > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                                > > >
                                > > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                                > > sir."
                                > > >
                                > > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                                > would
                                > > they?
                                > > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                                > using
                                > > the
                                > > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the
                                all-knowing
                                > > Zeta",
                                > > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                                > > really
                                > > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                                > > >
                                > > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                                > > climate
                                > > > change on earth at the present time.
                                > > >
                                > > > Regan
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > From: broali4x
                                > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                                > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > > CO2, The
                                > > > Sun, or PX?
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                                > > since
                                > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                                > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                                > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                                > > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                                > sir.
                                > > >
                                > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > > > >
                                > > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If
                                you
                                > > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and
                                you
                                > > have
                                > > > no
                                > > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you
                                said
                                > > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that
                                Nathaniel.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Regan
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > From: broali4x
                                > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                                > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > > > CO2, The
                                > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Please sir massa,
                                > > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a
                                link
                                > > to
                                > > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                                > > > alledge
                                > > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                                > > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                                > > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and
                                switch!
                                > > > >
                                > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                                > have
                                > > > you
                                > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                                > sisters
                                > > > are
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                                > > > > > Please give your link."
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                                > > seems
                                > > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                                > > towards,
                                > > > or
                                > > > > about
                                > > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                                > > repeatedly
                                > > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                                > angels
                                > > > are
                                > > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                                > > > > communication
                                > > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven
                                sees
                                > > all
                                > > > > and
                                > > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's
                                ministers,
                                > > have
                                > > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                                > be
                                > > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Regan
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > > From: broali4x
                                > > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                                > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                > > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > > > > CO2, The
                                > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                                have
                                > > you
                                > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                                > sisters
                                > > > are
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                                > > > > > Please give your link.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                                > Planet
                                > > X
                                > > > is
                                > > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained
                                in
                                > > > their
                                > > > > > answer
                                > > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                                > > scandal
                                > > > > > which you
                                > > > > > > gave us (see below).
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Regan
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                                > > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                                > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                                > > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                                > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > > > CO2,
                                > > > > > The
                                > > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                                > > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                                > is
                                > > > > > portraying,
                                > > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                                > > forlorn
                                > > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                                > vehemently
                                > > > > > clamoring
                                > > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is
                                not
                                > > the
                                > > > > > case?
                                > > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                                > > slowly
                                > > > > > screeching
                                > > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                                > > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be
                                blamed
                                > in
                                > > > > some
                                > > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                                > the
                                > > > > > supposed
                                > > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                                > for
                                > > > all
                                > > > > > the
                                > > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens
                                will
                                > be
                                > > > > next?
                                > > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more
                                reasonable
                                > > > > > explanation,
                                > > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                                > may
                                > > > find
                                > > > > > the
                                > > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                                > > causing
                                > > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                                > > > > > > CHANGE?
                                > > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                                > the
                                > > > > > present earth
                                > > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                                > aka
                                > > > > Planet
                                > > > > > X!
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                                > > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                                > > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                                > > > > Thousands
                                > > > > > of
                                > > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                                > were
                                > > > > > rigged,
                                > > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                                > What's
                                > > > the
                                > > > > > story
                                > > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring
                                it?
                                > > > > > > -
                                > > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                                > stated,
                                > > > is
                                > > > > > not the cause
                                > > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen
                                to
                                > > > > explain
                                > > > > > many
                                > > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as
                                the
                                > > > media
                                > > > > > and the
                                > > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                                > > > Warming
                                > > > > > was
                                > > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                                > > > > > establishment are
                                > > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                                > likely
                                > > to
                                > > > > > pass at
                                > > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                                > > panic
                                > > > > in
                                > > > > > the
                                > > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                                > their
                                > > > > > control to
                                > > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that
                                under
                                > > > Bush,
                                > > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line.
                                The
                                > > > media
                                > > > > > is
                                > > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                                > tout
                                > > > the
                                > > > > > line,
                                > > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now
                                that
                                > a
                                > > > leak
                                > > > > > has
                                > > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are
                                stunned
                                > > and
                                > > > > not
                                > > > > > sure
                                > > > > > > how
                                > > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                                > > might
                                > > > > be,
                                > > > > > if
                                > > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                                > > > > > > *
                                > > > > > > _________________________________________________
                                > > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                                > above:
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                                > > > confronted
                                > > > > > on
                                > > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                                > > > > > > -
                                > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                                > > > Climate
                                > > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing
                                conspiracy
                                > > to
                                > > > > > “HIDE�
                                > > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                                > > > > > > -
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                >
                                <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                                \
                                > \
                                > > \
                                > > > \
                                > > > > \
                                > > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                                > > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                                > scientistsÂ
                                > > > > > disagree that global
                                > > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                                > > > > > > Â -
                                > > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists
                                signed
                                > a
                                > > > > > petition
                                > > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the
                                RIGHTEOUS.
                                > > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                                >

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