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  • masanga@talktalk.net
    Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their answer to the
    Message 1 of 16 , Dec 1, 2009
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      Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
      supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their answer
      to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal which you
      gave us (see below).

      Regan


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: nathaniel x vance
      To: dr.ibrahim@...
      Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
      Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
      Sun, or PX?



      What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
      Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is portraying,
      instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
      scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently clamoring
      like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the case?
      However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly screeching
      to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
      Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in some
      contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the supposed
      greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all the
      present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be next?
      Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable explanation,
      albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find the
      real answer to this mystery – “What is really causing so-call CLIMATE
      CHANGE?
      Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the present earth
      changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka Planet X!

      From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
      [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate". Thousands of
      scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were rigged,
      have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the story
      and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
      -
      [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is not the cause
      of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to explain many
      of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media and the
      supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming was
      evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the establishment are
      aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to pass at
      some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic in the
      masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their control to
      go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
      scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media is
      controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the line,
      knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak has
      been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and not sure
      how
      to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might be, if
      excuses can suffice.
      *
      _________________________________________________
      Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:

      <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted on
      Climategate in Chicago
      -
      <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
      Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to “HIDE�
      the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
      -
      <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000-scientists-disagree/>
      Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientists disagree that global
      warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
      Â -
      <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a petition
      verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!

      The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
      salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
    • broali4x
      You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are ALL KNOWING ????
      Message 2 of 16 , Dec 2, 2009
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        You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
        heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are

        "ALL KNOWING"????
        Please give your link.





        --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
        >
        > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
        > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
        answer
        > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
        which you
        > gave us (see below).
        >
        > Regan
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: nathaniel x vance
        > To: dr.ibrahim@...
        > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
        > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
        The
        > Sun, or PX?
        >
        >
        >
        > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
        > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
        portraying,
        > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
        > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
        clamoring
        > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
        case?
        > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
        screeching
        > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
        > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in some
        > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
        supposed
        > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
        the
        > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be next?
        > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
        explanation,
        > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
        the
        > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
        so-call CLIMATE
        > CHANGE?
        > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
        present earth
        > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka Planet
        X!
        >
        > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
        <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
        > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate". Thousands
        of
        > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
        rigged,
        > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
        story
        > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
        > -
        > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
        not the cause
        > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to explain
        many
        > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
        and the
        > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
        was
        > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
        establishment are
        > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
        pass at
        > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic in
        the
        > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
        control to
        > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
        > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
        is
        > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
        line,
        > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
        has
        > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and not
        sure
        > how
        > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might be,
        if
        > excuses can suffice.
        > *
        > _________________________________________________
        > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
        >
        > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
        on
        > Climategate in Chicago
        > -
        > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
        > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
        “HIDE”
        > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
        > -
        >
        <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
        -scientists-disagree/>
        > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
        disagree that global
        > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
        > Â -
        > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
        petition
        > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
        >
        > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
        > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
        >




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      • nathaniel x vance
        Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!  Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on purpose by the rulers of darkness to
        Message 3 of 16 , Dec 2, 2009
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          Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!
           Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on purpose by the rulers of darkness to hide the real reason for planet earth climate-change?
          But Why?
          The simple answer is hell yeah, and here is the real reason why!

          CNN  Mr. Jack Cafferty chimes suggesting that Climate Change is NOT caused by CO2 emissions!
          ______________________________________________________________
          Al Gore called global warming "An Inconvenient Truth"... but suddenly a lot of people are asking what the truth really is. It's been dubbed ClimateGate.<http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/02/has-scientific-community-has-been-honest-about-global-warming/ >  CNN: caffertyfile,  Has scientific community been honest about global warming?


          ZetaTalk: When Lies Fail  [written Feb 17, 2006]
          When the cover-ups on the alien presence and the approach of Planet X first started, back in the days of Roswell, this was to be primarily supression of information, along with some fear inducing disinformation to keep people from pursuing the matter. UFO's were routinely called swamp gas and weather balloons, and the CIA spread rumors of aliens in underground chambers eating human body parts floating in vats. This involved NASA air brushing UFO's out of photos, suppression of real UFO sightings in the news, project Blue Book, government sponsored skeptics prominent in the media, and faked eye witness reports. This is still the mode today, almost 60 years later, though the mechanisms have failed. They were overrun with genuine reports of contactee experiences, many using the Internet to spread the word, and mass sightings where thousands would view a UFO blitz, simultaneously, so the news seeped past the media suppression, forcing the media to address
          the issue to avoid the appearance of a controlled suppression. What is to be learned from the breakdown of the cover-up on the alien presence? Sheer volume of information, truth, overruns and counters a cover-up and disinformation.
          How might this apply to the cover-up on Planet X? Unlike the alien presence, which was palpable at the time of Roswell, presenting itself with crashed ships and alien bodies and front page news coverage, Planet X was not expected to become an issue for decades. They had time. Thus, the cover-up has not yet broken down by the sheer volumn of information, or truth countering disinformation, but this process is evident. The plan was to claim and blame an erratic Sun for magnetic irregularities, asteroid swarms to explain the increase in fireballs, global warming to explain the melting glaciers and poles, and periodic climate change to cover weather irregularities. Since panic in the public could be assumed to be a national security threat, coercing the media and scientists and those in the know to cooperate with the cover-up was simply a matter of imposing a nation security oath on anyone needed to cooperate. But they did not know what to expect, nor could
          they imagine what to expect, and thus there are holes in the plan. Lies come with many faces.
          More at: <http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta262.htm>


          The earthly  ENDTIME  of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
          salaam  akwaaba  jambo  ashogee



          [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        • masanga@talktalk.net
          You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are ALL KNOWING ????
          Message 4 of 16 , Dec 2, 2009
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            "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
            heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are

            'ALL KNOWING'????
            Please give your link."

            I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
            to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or about
            the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
            referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
            supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and communication
            with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all and
            knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
            unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
            all-knowing. Isn't that correct?

            I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.

            Regan


            ----- Original Message -----
            From: broali4x
            To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
            Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
            Sun, or PX?





            You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
            heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are

            "ALL KNOWING"????
            Please give your link.

            --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
            >
            > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
            > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
            answer
            > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
            which you
            > gave us (see below).
            >
            > Regan
            >
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: nathaniel x vance
            > To: dr.ibrahim@...
            > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
            > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
            The
            > Sun, or PX?
            >
            >
            >
            > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
            > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
            portraying,
            > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
            > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
            clamoring
            > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
            case?
            > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
            screeching
            > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
            > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in some
            > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
            supposed
            > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
            the
            > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be next?
            > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
            explanation,
            > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
            the
            > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
            so-call CLIMATE
            > CHANGE?
            > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
            present earth
            > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka Planet
            X!
            >
            > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
            <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
            > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate". Thousands
            of
            > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
            rigged,
            > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
            story
            > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
            > -
            > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
            not the cause
            > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to explain
            many
            > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
            and the
            > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
            was
            > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
            establishment are
            > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
            pass at
            > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic in
            the
            > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
            control to
            > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
            > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
            is
            > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
            line,
            > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
            has
            > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and not
            sure
            > how
            > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might be,
            if
            > excuses can suffice.
            > *
            > _________________________________________________
            > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
            >
            > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
            on
            > Climategate in Chicago
            > -
            > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
            > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
            “HIDE�
            > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
            > -
            >
            <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
            -scientists-disagree/>
            > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
            disagree that global
            > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
            > Â -
            > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
            petition
            > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
            >
            > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
            > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
          • masanga@talktalk.net
            I don t know if this was supposed to be an answer to my question How is Planet X supposed to be the real cause of climate change? but it isn t one. Am I
            Message 5 of 16 , Dec 4, 2009
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              I don't know if this was supposed to be an answer to my question
              "How is Planet X supposed to be the real cause of climate change?" but it
              isn't one. Am I supposed to simply take the Zeta's word for it on blind
              trust? Sorry, but that's not going to happen.

              Climategate may have shown that the man-made global warming argument
              is scientifically fraudulent but it has not proven, or even suggested, or
              obliquely, tentatively implied anything at all about Planet X. So I ask
              again:

              How is Planet X supposed to be causing climate change?

              Regan


              ----- Original Message -----
              From: nathaniel x vance
              To: dr.ibrahim@...
              Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:05 AM
              Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
              Sun, or PX?



              Is the CLIMATE-GATE cover-up about to go BUST!
              Are we the blind highly gullible public being fooled and dumb-downed on
              purpose by the rulers of darkness to hide the real reason for planet earth
              climate-change?
              But Why?
              The simple answer is hell yeah, and here is the real reason why!

              CNN Mr. Jack Cafferty chimes suggesting that Climate Change is NOT caused
              by CO2 emissions!
              __________________________________________________________
              Al Gore called global warming "An Inconvenient Truth"... but suddenly a lot
              of people are asking what the truth really is. It's been dubbed
              ClimateGate.<http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/02/has-scientific-community-has-been-honest-about-global-warming/
              > CNN: caffertyfile, Has scientific community been honest about global
              warming?

              ZetaTalk: When Lies Fail [written Feb 17, 2006]
              When the cover-ups on the alien presence and the approach of Planet X first
              started, back in the days of Roswell, this was to be primarily supression of
              information, along with some fear inducing disinformation to keep people
              from pursuing the matter. UFO's were routinely called swamp gas and weather
              balloons, and the CIA spread rumors of aliens in underground chambers eating
              human body parts floating in vats. This involved NASA air brushing UFO's out
              of photos, suppression of real UFO sightings in the news, project Blue Book,
              government sponsored skeptics prominent in the media, and faked eye witness
              reports. This is still the mode today, almost 60 years later, though the
              mechanisms have failed. They were overrun with genuine reports of contactee
              experiences, many using the Internet to spread the word, and mass sightings
              where thousands would view a UFO blitz, simultaneously, so the news seeped
              past the media suppression, forcing the media to address
              the issue to avoid the appearance of a controlled suppression. What is to be
              learned from the breakdown of the cover-up on the alien presence? Sheer
              volume of information, truth, overruns and counters a cover-up and
              disinformation.
              How might this apply to the cover-up on Planet X? Unlike the alien presence,
              which was palpable at the time of Roswell, presenting itself with crashed
              ships and alien bodies and front page news coverage, Planet X was not
              expected to become an issue for decades. They had time. Thus, the cover-up
              has not yet broken down by the sheer volumn of information, or truth
              countering disinformation, but this process is evident. The plan was to
              claim and blame an erratic Sun for magnetic irregularities, asteroid swarms
              to explain the increase in fireballs, global warming to explain the melting
              glaciers and poles, and periodic climate change to cover weather
              irregularities. Since panic in the public could be assumed to be a national
              security threat, coercing the media and scientists and those in the know to
              cooperate with the cover-up was simply a matter of imposing a nation
              security oath on anyone needed to cooperate. But they did not know what to
              expect, nor could
              they imagine what to expect, and thus there are holes in the plan. Lies come
              with many faces.
              More at: <http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta262.htm>

              The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
              salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
            • broali4x
              Please sir massa, All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
              Message 6 of 16 , Dec 4, 2009
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                Please sir massa,
                All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or alledge
                that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!



                --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                >
                > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
                >
                > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                > Please give your link."
                >
                > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or
                about
                > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
                > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                communication
                > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                and
                > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                >
                > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                >
                > Regan
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: broali4x
                > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                CO2, The
                > Sun, or PX?
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
                >
                > "ALL KNOWING"????
                > Please give your link.
                >
                > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                > >
                > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
                > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
                > answer
                > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                > which you
                > > gave us (see below).
                > >
                > > Regan
                > >
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: nathaniel x vance
                > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
                > The
                > > Sun, or PX?
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                > portraying,
                > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                > clamoring
                > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                > case?
                > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                > screeching
                > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                some
                > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                > supposed
                > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
                > the
                > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                next?
                > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                > explanation,
                > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
                > the
                > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                > so-call CLIMATE
                > > CHANGE?
                > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                > present earth
                > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                Planet
                > X!
                > >
                > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                Thousands
                > of
                > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                > rigged,
                > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
                > story
                > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                > > -
                > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
                > not the cause
                > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                explain
                > many
                > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
                > and the
                > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
                > was
                > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                > establishment are
                > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                > pass at
                > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                in
                > the
                > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                > control to
                > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
                > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
                > is
                > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
                > line,
                > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
                > has
                > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                not
                > sure
                > > how
                > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                be,
                > if
                > > excuses can suffice.
                > > *
                > > _________________________________________________
                > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                > >
                > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
                > on
                > > Climategate in Chicago
                > > -
                > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
                > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                > “HIDE”
                > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                > > -
                > >
                >
                <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                \
                > -scientists-disagree/>
                > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                > disagree that global
                > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                > > Â -
                > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                > petition
                > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                > >
                > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                >




                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              • masanga@talktalk.net
                I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you cannot read plain English I m afraid that is not my fault and you have no grounds to accuse
                Message 7 of 16 , Dec 4, 2009
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                  I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                  cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have no
                  grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.

                  In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                  you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.

                  Regan


                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: broali4x
                  To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                  Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                  Sun, or PX?




                  Please sir massa,
                  All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                  where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or alledge
                  that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                  If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                  You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!

                  --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                  > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
                  >
                  > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                  > Please give your link."
                  >
                  > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                  > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards, or
                  about
                  > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                  > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels are
                  > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                  communication
                  > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                  and
                  > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                  > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                  > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                  >
                  > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                  >
                  > Regan
                  >
                  >
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: broali4x
                  > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                  > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                  CO2, The
                  > Sun, or PX?
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                  > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters are
                  >
                  > "ALL KNOWING"????
                  > Please give your link.
                  >
                  > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X is
                  > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in their
                  > answer
                  > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                  > which you
                  > > gave us (see below).
                  > >
                  > > Regan
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > From: nathaniel x vance
                  > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                  > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                  > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2,
                  > The
                  > > Sun, or PX?
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                  > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                  > portraying,
                  > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                  > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                  > clamoring
                  > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                  > case?
                  > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                  > screeching
                  > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                  > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                  some
                  > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                  > supposed
                  > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for all
                  > the
                  > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                  next?
                  > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                  > explanation,
                  > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may find
                  > the
                  > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                  > so-call CLIMATE
                  > > CHANGE?
                  > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                  > present earth
                  > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                  Planet
                  > X!
                  > >
                  > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                  > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                  > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                  Thousands
                  > of
                  > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                  > rigged,
                  > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's the
                  > story
                  > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                  > > -
                  > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated, is
                  > not the cause
                  > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                  explain
                  > many
                  > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the media
                  > and the
                  > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global Warming
                  > was
                  > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                  > establishment are
                  > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                  > pass at
                  > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                  in
                  > the
                  > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                  > control to
                  > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under Bush,
                  > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The media
                  > is
                  > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout the
                  > line,
                  > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a leak
                  > has
                  > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                  not
                  > sure
                  > > how
                  > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                  be,
                  > if
                  > > excuses can suffice.
                  > > *
                  > > _________________________________________________
                  > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                  > >
                  > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore confronted
                  > on
                  > > Climategate in Chicago
                  > > -
                  > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related> Climate
                  > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                  > “HIDE�
                  > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                  > > -
                  > >
                  >
                  <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                  \
                  > -scientists-disagree/>
                  > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                  > disagree that global
                  > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                  > > Â -
                  > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                  > petition
                  > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                  > >
                  > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                  > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                • broali4x
                  Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                  Message 8 of 16 , Dec 5, 2009
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                    Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                    you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                    <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                    <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                    By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.

                    --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                    > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have
                    no
                    > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                    >
                    > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                    > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                    >
                    > Regan
                    >
                    >
                    > ----- Original Message -----
                    > From: broali4x
                    > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                    > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    CO2, The
                    > Sun, or PX?
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Please sir massa,
                    > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                    > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                    alledge
                    > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                    > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                    > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                    >
                    > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                    > >
                    > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                    you
                    > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                    are
                    > >
                    > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                    > > Please give your link."
                    > >
                    > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                    > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards,
                    or
                    > about
                    > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                    > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                    are
                    > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                    > communication
                    > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                    > and
                    > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                    > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                    > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                    > >
                    > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                    > >
                    > > Regan
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > From: broali4x
                    > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                    > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    > CO2, The
                    > > Sun, or PX?
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                    > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                    are
                    > >
                    > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                    > > Please give your link.
                    > >
                    > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X
                    is
                    > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                    their
                    > > answer
                    > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                    > > which you
                    > > > gave us (see below).
                    > > >
                    > > > Regan
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > ----- Original Message -----
                    > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                    > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                    > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                    > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                    CO2,
                    > > The
                    > > > Sun, or PX?
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                    > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                    > > portraying,
                    > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                    > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                    > > clamoring
                    > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                    > > case?
                    > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                    > > screeching
                    > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                    > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                    > some
                    > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                    > > supposed
                    > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                    all
                    > > the
                    > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                    > next?
                    > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                    > > explanation,
                    > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                    find
                    > > the
                    > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                    > > so-call CLIMATE
                    > > > CHANGE?
                    > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                    > > present earth
                    > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                    > Planet
                    > > X!
                    > > >
                    > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                    > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                    > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                    > Thousands
                    > > of
                    > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                    > > rigged,
                    > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                    the
                    > > story
                    > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                    > > > -
                    > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                    is
                    > > not the cause
                    > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                    > explain
                    > > many
                    > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                    media
                    > > and the
                    > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                    Warming
                    > > was
                    > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                    > > establishment are
                    > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                    > > pass at
                    > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                    > in
                    > > the
                    > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                    > > control to
                    > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                    Bush,
                    > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                    media
                    > > is
                    > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                    the
                    > > line,
                    > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                    leak
                    > > has
                    > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                    > not
                    > > sure
                    > > > how
                    > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                    > be,
                    > > if
                    > > > excuses can suffice.
                    > > > *
                    > > > _________________________________________________
                    > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                    > > >
                    > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                    confronted
                    > > on
                    > > > Climategate in Chicago
                    > > > -
                    > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                    Climate
                    > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                    > > “HIDE”
                    > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                    > > > -
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
                    <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                    \
                    > \
                    > > -scientists-disagree/>
                    > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                    > > disagree that global
                    > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                    > > > Â -
                    > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                    > > petition
                    > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                    > > >
                    > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                    > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                    >




                    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  • masanga@talktalk.net
                    Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                    Message 9 of 16 , Dec 6, 2009
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                      "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                      you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                      <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                      <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"

                      Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin and
                      cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of how
                      Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.

                      Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept that
                      their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is true!

                      You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing climate
                      change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                      referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                      Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?

                      "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir."

                      No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would they?
                      I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using the
                      literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing Zeta",
                      meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they really
                      are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?

                      I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                      change on earth at the present time.

                      Regan


                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: broali4x
                      To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                      Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                      Sun, or PX?





                      Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question since
                      you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                      <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                      <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                      By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.

                      --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                      > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you have
                      no
                      > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                      >
                      > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                      > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                      >
                      > Regan
                      >
                      >
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: broali4x
                      > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                      > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      CO2, The
                      > Sun, or PX?
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Please sir massa,
                      > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link to
                      > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                      alledge
                      > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                      > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                      > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                      >
                      > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                      > >
                      > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                      you
                      > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                      are
                      > >
                      > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                      > > Please give your link."
                      > >
                      > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it seems
                      > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made towards,
                      or
                      > about
                      > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have repeatedly
                      > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                      are
                      > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                      > communication
                      > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees all
                      > and
                      > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers, have
                      > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                      > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                      > >
                      > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                      > >
                      > > Regan
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > From: broali4x
                      > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                      > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      > CO2, The
                      > > Sun, or PX?
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have you
                      > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                      are
                      > >
                      > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                      > > Please give your link.
                      > >
                      > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet X
                      is
                      > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                      their
                      > > answer
                      > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate scandal
                      > > which you
                      > > > gave us (see below).
                      > > >
                      > > > Regan
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                      > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                      > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                      > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                      CO2,
                      > > The
                      > > > Sun, or PX?
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                      > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                      > > portraying,
                      > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental forlorn
                      > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                      > > clamoring
                      > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not the
                      > > case?
                      > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is slowly
                      > > screeching
                      > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                      > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                      > some
                      > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                      > > supposed
                      > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                      all
                      > > the
                      > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                      > next?
                      > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                      > > explanation,
                      > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                      find
                      > > the
                      > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really causing
                      > > so-call CLIMATE
                      > > > CHANGE?
                      > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                      > > present earth
                      > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                      > Planet
                      > > X!
                      > > >
                      > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                      > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                      > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                      > Thousands
                      > > of
                      > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                      > > rigged,
                      > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                      the
                      > > story
                      > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                      > > > -
                      > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                      is
                      > > not the cause
                      > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                      > explain
                      > > many
                      > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                      media
                      > > and the
                      > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                      Warming
                      > > was
                      > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                      > > establishment are
                      > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely to
                      > > pass at
                      > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that panic
                      > in
                      > > the
                      > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                      > > control to
                      > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                      Bush,
                      > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                      media
                      > > is
                      > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                      the
                      > > line,
                      > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                      leak
                      > > has
                      > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned and
                      > not
                      > > sure
                      > > > how
                      > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout might
                      > be,
                      > > if
                      > > > excuses can suffice.
                      > > > *
                      > > > _________________________________________________
                      > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                      > > >
                      > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                      confronted
                      > > on
                      > > > Climategate in Chicago
                      > > > -
                      > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                      Climate
                      > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to
                      > > “HIDE�
                      > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                      > > > -
                      > > >
                      > >
                      >
                      <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                      \
                      > \
                      > > -scientists-disagree/>
                      > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                      > > disagree that global
                      > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                      > > > Â -
                      > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                      > > petition
                      > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                      > > >
                      > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                      > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                    • broali4x
                      Dear masanga, If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal weather
                      Message 10 of 16 , Dec 7, 2009
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                        Dear masanga,
                        If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                        cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                        weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                        attributable denial!
                        All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                        forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                        become a witness as ell at such time!
                        I already have MY proof, sir.

                        --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                        since
                        > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                        > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                        > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                        >
                        > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                        and
                        > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of
                        how
                        > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                        >
                        > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                        that
                        > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                        true!
                        >
                        > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                        climate
                        > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                        > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                        > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                        >
                        > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                        sir."
                        >
                        > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would
                        they?
                        > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using
                        the
                        > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                        Zeta",
                        > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                        really
                        > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                        >
                        > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                        climate
                        > change on earth at the present time.
                        >
                        > Regan
                        >
                        >
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: broali4x
                        > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                        > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        CO2, The
                        > Sun, or PX?
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                        since
                        > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                        > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                        > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                        > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.
                        >
                        > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > >
                        > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                        > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                        have
                        > no
                        > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                        > >
                        > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                        > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                        > >
                        > > Regan
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > From: broali4x
                        > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                        > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > CO2, The
                        > > Sun, or PX?
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Please sir massa,
                        > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                        to
                        > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                        > alledge
                        > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                        > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                        > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                        > >
                        > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                        > you
                        > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                        > are
                        > > >
                        > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                        > > > Please give your link."
                        > > >
                        > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                        seems
                        > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                        towards,
                        > or
                        > > about
                        > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                        repeatedly
                        > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                        > are
                        > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                        > > communication
                        > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                        all
                        > > and
                        > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                        have
                        > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                        > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                        > > >
                        > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                        > > >
                        > > > Regan
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > From: broali4x
                        > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                        > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                        CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > > CO2, The
                        > > > Sun, or PX?
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                        you
                        > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                        > are
                        > > >
                        > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                        > > > Please give your link.
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet
                        X
                        > is
                        > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                        > their
                        > > > answer
                        > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                        scandal
                        > > > which you
                        > > > > gave us (see below).
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Regan
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                        > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                        > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                        > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                        > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                        > CO2,
                        > > > The
                        > > > > Sun, or PX?
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > >
                        > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                        > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                        > > > portraying,
                        > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                        forlorn
                        > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                        > > > clamoring
                        > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                        the
                        > > > case?
                        > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                        slowly
                        > > > screeching
                        > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                        > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                        > > some
                        > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                        > > > supposed
                        > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                        > all
                        > > > the
                        > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                        > > next?
                        > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                        > > > explanation,
                        > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                        > find
                        > > > the
                        > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                        causing
                        > > > so-call CLIMATE
                        > > > > CHANGE?
                        > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                        > > > present earth
                        > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                        > > Planet
                        > > > X!
                        > > > >
                        > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                        > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                        > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                        > > Thousands
                        > > > of
                        > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                        > > > rigged,
                        > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                        > the
                        > > > story
                        > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                        > > > > -
                        > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                        > is
                        > > > not the cause
                        > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                        > > explain
                        > > > many
                        > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                        > media
                        > > > and the
                        > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                        > Warming
                        > > > was
                        > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                        > > > establishment are
                        > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely
                        to
                        > > > pass at
                        > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                        panic
                        > > in
                        > > > the
                        > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                        > > > control to
                        > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                        > Bush,
                        > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                        > media
                        > > > is
                        > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                        > the
                        > > > line,
                        > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                        > leak
                        > > > has
                        > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                        and
                        > > not
                        > > > sure
                        > > > > how
                        > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                        might
                        > > be,
                        > > > if
                        > > > > excuses can suffice.
                        > > > > *
                        > > > > _________________________________________________
                        > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                        > confronted
                        > > > on
                        > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                        > > > > -
                        > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                        > Climate
                        > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                        to
                        > > > “HIDE”
                        > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                        > > > > -
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        >
                        <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                        \
                        > \
                        > > \
                        > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                        > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                        > > > disagree that global
                        > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                        > > > > Â -
                        > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                        > > > petition
                        > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                        > > > >
                        > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                        > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                        >




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                      • masanga@talktalk.net
                        broali4x wrote: Dear masanga, If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing
                        Message 11 of 16 , Dec 7, 2009
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                          broali4x wrote:

                          "Dear masanga,
                          If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                          cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                          weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                          attributable denial!"

                          Dear broali4x,

                          I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY it is
                          supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest of it.

                          I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                          would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                          telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk web-site for
                          my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your promise
                          and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what you
                          say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?

                          "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                          forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                          become a witness as ell at such time!"

                          Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you made
                          when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for proof
                          but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us that
                          you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my breath
                          waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either. I'll
                          believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.

                          "I already have MY proof, sir."

                          Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                          providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site where
                          the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on
                          earth, should you?

                          Regan


                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: broali4x
                          To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                          Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                          Sun, or PX?





                          Dear masanga,
                          If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                          cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                          weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                          attributable denial!
                          All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                          forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                          become a witness as ell at such time!
                          I already have MY proof, sir.

                          --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                          since
                          > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                          > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                          > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                          >
                          > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                          and
                          > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation of
                          how
                          > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                          >
                          > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                          that
                          > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                          true!
                          >
                          > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                          climate
                          > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off by
                          > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either, instead!
                          > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                          >
                          > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                          sir."
                          >
                          > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either, would
                          they?
                          > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was using
                          the
                          > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                          Zeta",
                          > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                          really
                          > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                          >
                          > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                          climate
                          > change on earth at the present time.
                          >
                          > Regan
                          >
                          >
                          > ----- Original Message -----
                          > From: broali4x
                          > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                          > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          CO2, The
                          > Sun, or PX?
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                          since
                          > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                          > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                          > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                          > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing, sir.
                          >
                          > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > >
                          > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                          > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                          have
                          > no
                          > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                          > >
                          > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                          > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                          > >
                          > > Regan
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > From: broali4x
                          > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                          > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > CO2, The
                          > > Sun, or PX?
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > > Please sir massa,
                          > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                          to
                          > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                          > alledge
                          > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                          > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                          > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                          > >
                          > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                          > you
                          > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                          > are
                          > > >
                          > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                          > > > Please give your link."
                          > > >
                          > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                          seems
                          > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                          towards,
                          > or
                          > > about
                          > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                          repeatedly
                          > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well, angels
                          > are
                          > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                          > > communication
                          > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                          all
                          > > and
                          > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                          have
                          > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must be
                          > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                          > > >
                          > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                          > > >
                          > > > Regan
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > From: broali4x
                          > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                          > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                          > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                          CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > > CO2, The
                          > > > Sun, or PX?
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                          you
                          > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and sisters
                          > are
                          > > >
                          > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                          > > > Please give your link.
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW Planet
                          X
                          > is
                          > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                          > their
                          > > > answer
                          > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                          scandal
                          > > > which you
                          > > > > gave us (see below).
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Regan
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                          > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                          > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                          > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                          > CO2,
                          > > > The
                          > > > > Sun, or PX?
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                          > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media is
                          > > > portraying,
                          > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                          forlorn
                          > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still vehemently
                          > > > clamoring
                          > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                          the
                          > > > case?
                          > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                          slowly
                          > > > screeching
                          > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                          > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed in
                          > > some
                          > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither the
                          > > > supposed
                          > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause for
                          > all
                          > > > the
                          > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will be
                          > > next?
                          > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                          > > > explanation,
                          > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we may
                          > find
                          > > > the
                          > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                          causing
                          > > > so-call CLIMATE
                          > > > > CHANGE?
                          > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995… the
                          > > > present earth
                          > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru - aka
                          > > Planet
                          > > > X!
                          > > > >
                          > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                          > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                          > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                          > > Thousands
                          > > > of
                          > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming" were
                          > > > rigged,
                          > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job. What's
                          > the
                          > > > story
                          > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                          > > > > -
                          > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long stated,
                          > is
                          > > > not the cause
                          > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                          > > explain
                          > > > many
                          > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                          > media
                          > > > and the
                          > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                          > Warming
                          > > > was
                          > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                          > > > establishment are
                          > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system likely
                          to
                          > > > pass at
                          > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                          panic
                          > > in
                          > > > the
                          > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under their
                          > > > control to
                          > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                          > Bush,
                          > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                          > media
                          > > > is
                          > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to tout
                          > the
                          > > > line,
                          > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that a
                          > leak
                          > > > has
                          > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                          and
                          > > not
                          > > > sure
                          > > > > how
                          > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                          might
                          > > be,
                          > > > if
                          > > > > excuses can suffice.
                          > > > > *
                          > > > > _________________________________________________
                          > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the above:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                          > confronted
                          > > > on
                          > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                          > > > > -
                          > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                          > Climate
                          > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                          to
                          > > > “HIDE�
                          > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                          > > > > -
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >
                          <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                          \
                          > \
                          > > \
                          > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                          > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486 scientistsÂ
                          > > > disagree that global
                          > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                          > > > > Â -
                          > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed a
                          > > > petition
                          > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                          > > > >
                          > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                          > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                          >
                        • broali4x
                          dear masanga, You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma whom you are privy to demand a change. Again, one again and for the
                          Message 12 of 16 , Dec 8, 2009
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                            dear masanga,
                            You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                            whom you are privy to demand a change.
                            Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                            Am i clear!



                            --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > broali4x wrote:
                            >
                            > "Dear masanga,
                            > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                            > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                            > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                            > attributable denial!"
                            >
                            > Dear broali4x,
                            >
                            > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY
                            it is
                            > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest
                            of it.
                            >
                            > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                            > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                            > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                            web-site for
                            > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                            promise
                            > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what
                            you
                            > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                            >
                            > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                            > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                            > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                            >
                            > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you
                            made
                            > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for
                            proof
                            > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                            that
                            > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my
                            breath
                            > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                            I'll
                            > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                            >
                            > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                            >
                            > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                            > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site
                            where
                            > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change
                            on
                            > earth, should you?
                            >
                            > Regan
                            >
                            >
                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: broali4x
                            > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                            > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            CO2, The
                            > Sun, or PX?
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > Dear masanga,
                            > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                            > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                            > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                            > attributable denial!
                            > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                            > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                            > become a witness as ell at such time!
                            > I already have MY proof, sir.
                            >
                            > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > >
                            > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                            > since
                            > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                            > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                            > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                            > >
                            > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                            > and
                            > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation
                            of
                            > how
                            > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                            > >
                            > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                            > that
                            > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                            > true!
                            > >
                            > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                            > climate
                            > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off
                            by
                            > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                            instead!
                            > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                            > >
                            > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                            > sir."
                            > >
                            > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                            would
                            > they?
                            > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                            using
                            > the
                            > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                            > Zeta",
                            > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                            > really
                            > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                            > >
                            > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                            > climate
                            > > change on earth at the present time.
                            > >
                            > > Regan
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > From: broali4x
                            > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                            > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > CO2, The
                            > > Sun, or PX?
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                            > since
                            > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                            > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                            > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                            > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                            sir.
                            > >
                            > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > >
                            > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                            > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                            > have
                            > > no
                            > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                            > > >
                            > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                            > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                            > > >
                            > > > Regan
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > From: broali4x
                            > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                            > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                            CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > CO2, The
                            > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > > Please sir massa,
                            > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                            > to
                            > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                            > > alledge
                            > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                            > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                            > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                            have
                            > > you
                            > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                            sisters
                            > > are
                            > > > >
                            > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                            > > > > Please give your link."
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                            > seems
                            > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                            > towards,
                            > > or
                            > > > about
                            > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                            > repeatedly
                            > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                            angels
                            > > are
                            > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                            > > > communication
                            > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                            > all
                            > > > and
                            > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                            > have
                            > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                            be
                            > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                            > > > >
                            > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Regan
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > From: broali4x
                            > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                            > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                            > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                            > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > > CO2, The
                            > > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                            > you
                            > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                            sisters
                            > > are
                            > > > >
                            > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                            > > > > Please give your link.
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                            Planet
                            > X
                            > > is
                            > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                            > > their
                            > > > > answer
                            > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                            > scandal
                            > > > > which you
                            > > > > > gave us (see below).
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Regan
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                            > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                            > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                            > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                            CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                            > > CO2,
                            > > > > The
                            > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                            > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                            is
                            > > > > portraying,
                            > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                            > forlorn
                            > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                            vehemently
                            > > > > clamoring
                            > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                            > the
                            > > > > case?
                            > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                            > slowly
                            > > > > screeching
                            > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                            > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed
                            in
                            > > > some
                            > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                            the
                            > > > > supposed
                            > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                            for
                            > > all
                            > > > > the
                            > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will
                            be
                            > > > next?
                            > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                            > > > > explanation,
                            > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                            may
                            > > find
                            > > > > the
                            > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                            > causing
                            > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                            > > > > > CHANGE?
                            > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                            the
                            > > > > present earth
                            > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                            aka
                            > > > Planet
                            > > > > X!
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                            > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                            > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                            > > > Thousands
                            > > > > of
                            > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                            were
                            > > > > rigged,
                            > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                            What's
                            > > the
                            > > > > story
                            > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                            > > > > > -
                            > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                            stated,
                            > > is
                            > > > > not the cause
                            > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                            > > > explain
                            > > > > many
                            > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                            > > media
                            > > > > and the
                            > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                            > > Warming
                            > > > > was
                            > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                            > > > > establishment are
                            > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                            likely
                            > to
                            > > > > pass at
                            > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                            > panic
                            > > > in
                            > > > > the
                            > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                            their
                            > > > > control to
                            > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                            > > Bush,
                            > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                            > > media
                            > > > > is
                            > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                            tout
                            > > the
                            > > > > line,
                            > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that
                            a
                            > > leak
                            > > > > has
                            > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                            > and
                            > > > not
                            > > > > sure
                            > > > > > how
                            > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                            > might
                            > > > be,
                            > > > > if
                            > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                            > > > > > *
                            > > > > > _________________________________________________
                            > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                            above:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                            > > confronted
                            > > > > on
                            > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                            > > > > > -
                            > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                            > > Climate
                            > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                            > to
                            > > > > “HIDE”
                            > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                            > > > > > -
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            >
                            <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                            \
                            > \
                            > > \
                            > > > \
                            > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                            > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                            scientistsÂ
                            > > > > disagree that global
                            > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                            > > > > > Â -
                            > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed
                            a
                            > > > > petition
                            > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                            > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                            > >
                            >
                          • masanga@talktalk.net
                            I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on another and have just read broali4x s latest desultory address to me. Good grief! I see that he
                            Message 13 of 16 , Dec 9, 2009
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                              I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                              another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me. Good
                              grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                              embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:

                              "dear masanga,
                              You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                              whom you are privy to demand a change.
                              Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                              Am i clear!"

                              I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                              mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my simple
                              and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                              change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I was a
                              baby and he was my "momma"!

                              I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                              question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean, why is
                              it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent explanation"
                              given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my question
                              himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the Zeta's
                              explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest of my
                              lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the entire
                              ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being very
                              helpful, is he? Hardly STO!

                              He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                              someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                              misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all that
                              by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                              commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I think I
                              can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by "the
                              source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a link
                              to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it! How
                              can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                              archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally opaque
                              about that matter!

                              And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                              his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet calculated to
                              trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake down any
                              tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics are
                              easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because they can
                              see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no danger to
                              them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to fall
                              foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                              infantile cult-building scams!

                              Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                              that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X is
                              supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                              dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                              question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while he
                              diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                              irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are "all-knowing".
                              But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                              again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                              through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at him
                              with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on similar
                              endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I confronted
                              him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question when it
                              was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                              finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                              reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.

                              To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                              that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in these
                              unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position would
                              have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I don't
                              personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about it on
                              the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of use to
                              you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to it."

                              I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                              me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                              mirror to the self.

                              Regan


                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: broali4x
                              To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                              Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                              Sun, or PX?





                              dear masanga,
                              You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your momma
                              whom you are privy to demand a change.
                              Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                              Am i clear!

                              --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > broali4x wrote:
                              >
                              > "Dear masanga,
                              > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                              > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                              > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                              > attributable denial!"
                              >
                              > Dear broali4x,
                              >
                              > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not WHY
                              it is
                              > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the rest
                              of it.
                              >
                              > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that YOU
                              > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you are
                              > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                              web-site for
                              > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                              promise
                              > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean what
                              you
                              > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                              >
                              > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                              > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                              > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                              >
                              > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one you
                              made
                              > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request for
                              proof
                              > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                              that
                              > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold my
                              breath
                              > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                              I'll
                              > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                              >
                              > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                              >
                              > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                              > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk web-site
                              where
                              > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change
                              on
                              > earth, should you?
                              >
                              > Regan
                              >
                              >
                              > ----- Original Message -----
                              > From: broali4x
                              > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                              > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              CO2, The
                              > Sun, or PX?
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Dear masanga,
                              > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                              > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                              > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                              > attributable denial!
                              > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will be
                              > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience to
                              > become a witness as ell at such time!
                              > I already have MY proof, sir.
                              >
                              > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > >
                              > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                              > since
                              > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                              > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                              > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                              > >
                              > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the Kolbrin
                              > and
                              > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an explanation
                              of
                              > how
                              > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                              > >
                              > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to accept
                              > that
                              > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                              > true!
                              > >
                              > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                              > climate
                              > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me off
                              by
                              > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                              instead!
                              > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                              > >
                              > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                              > sir."
                              > >
                              > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                              would
                              > they?
                              > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                              using
                              > the
                              > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the all-knowing
                              > Zeta",
                              > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                              > really
                              > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                              > >
                              > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                              > climate
                              > > change on earth at the present time.
                              > >
                              > > Regan
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > From: broali4x
                              > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                              > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > CO2, The
                              > > Sun, or PX?
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                              > since
                              > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                              > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                              > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                              > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                              sir.
                              > >
                              > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If you
                              > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and you
                              > have
                              > > no
                              > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                              > > >
                              > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you said
                              > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that Nathaniel.
                              > > >
                              > > > Regan
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > From: broali4x
                              > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                              > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                              CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > CO2, The
                              > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Please sir massa,
                              > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a link
                              > to
                              > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                              > > alledge
                              > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                              > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                              > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and switch!
                              > > >
                              > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                              have
                              > > you
                              > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                              sisters
                              > > are
                              > > > >
                              > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                              > > > > Please give your link."
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                              > seems
                              > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                              > towards,
                              > > or
                              > > > about
                              > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                              > repeatedly
                              > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                              angels
                              > > are
                              > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                              > > > communication
                              > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven sees
                              > all
                              > > > and
                              > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's ministers,
                              > have
                              > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                              be
                              > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                              > > > >
                              > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Regan
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > From: broali4x
                              > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                              > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                              > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > > CO2, The
                              > > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where have
                              > you
                              > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                              sisters
                              > > are
                              > > > >
                              > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                              > > > > Please give your link.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                              Planet
                              > X
                              > > is
                              > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained in
                              > > their
                              > > > > answer
                              > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                              > scandal
                              > > > > which you
                              > > > > > gave us (see below).
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Regan
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                              > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                              > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                              > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                              > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                              CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                              > > CO2,
                              > > > > The
                              > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                              > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                              is
                              > > > > portraying,
                              > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                              > forlorn
                              > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                              vehemently
                              > > > > clamoring
                              > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is not
                              > the
                              > > > > case?
                              > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                              > slowly
                              > > > > screeching
                              > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                              > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be blamed
                              in
                              > > > some
                              > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                              the
                              > > > > supposed
                              > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                              for
                              > > all
                              > > > > the
                              > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens will
                              be
                              > > > next?
                              > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more reasonable
                              > > > > explanation,
                              > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                              may
                              > > find
                              > > > > the
                              > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                              > causing
                              > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                              > > > > > CHANGE?
                              > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                              the
                              > > > > present earth
                              > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                              aka
                              > > > Planet
                              > > > > X!
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                              > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                              > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                              > > > Thousands
                              > > > > of
                              > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                              were
                              > > > > rigged,
                              > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                              What's
                              > > the
                              > > > > story
                              > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring it?
                              > > > > > -
                              > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                              stated,
                              > > is
                              > > > > not the cause
                              > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen to
                              > > > explain
                              > > > > many
                              > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as the
                              > > media
                              > > > > and the
                              > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                              > > Warming
                              > > > > was
                              > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                              > > > > establishment are
                              > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                              likely
                              > to
                              > > > > pass at
                              > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                              > panic
                              > > > in
                              > > > > the
                              > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                              their
                              > > > > control to
                              > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that under
                              > > Bush,
                              > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line. The
                              > > media
                              > > > > is
                              > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                              tout
                              > > the
                              > > > > line,
                              > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now that
                              a
                              > > leak
                              > > > > has
                              > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are stunned
                              > and
                              > > > not
                              > > > > sure
                              > > > > > how
                              > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                              > might
                              > > > be,
                              > > > > if
                              > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                              > > > > > *
                              > > > > > _________________________________________________
                              > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                              above:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                              > > confronted
                              > > > > on
                              > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                              > > > > > -
                              > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                              > > Climate
                              > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy
                              > to
                              > > > > “HIDE�
                              > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                              > > > > > -
                              > > > > >
                              > > > >
                              > > >
                              > >
                              >
                              <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                              \
                              > \
                              > > \
                              > > > \
                              > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                              > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                              scientistsÂ
                              > > > > disagree that global
                              > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                              > > > > > Â -
                              > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists signed
                              a
                              > > > > petition
                              > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the RIGHTEOUS.
                              > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                            • broali4x
                              Dear Mr. Massaggga, You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers, but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
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                                Dear Mr. Massaggga,
                                You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                                but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                                intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                                Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran.
                                At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                                Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                                Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                                night around the clock. Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                                if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                                wicked!
                                Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                                Jambo



                                --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                                > another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me.
                                Good
                                > grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                                > embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:
                                >
                                > "dear masanga,
                                > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                                momma
                                > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                                > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                                > Am i clear!"
                                >
                                > I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                                > mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my
                                simple
                                > and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                                climate
                                > change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I
                                was a
                                > baby and he was my "momma"!
                                >
                                > I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                                > question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean,
                                why is
                                > it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent
                                explanation"
                                > given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my
                                question
                                > himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the
                                Zeta's
                                > explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest
                                of my
                                > lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the
                                entire
                                > ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being
                                very
                                > helpful, is he? Hardly STO!
                                >
                                > He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                                > someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                                > misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all
                                that
                                > by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                                > commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I
                                think I
                                > can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by
                                "the
                                > source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a
                                link
                                > to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it!
                                How
                                > can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                                > archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally
                                opaque
                                > about that matter!
                                >
                                > And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                                > his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet
                                calculated to
                                > trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake
                                down any
                                > tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics
                                are
                                > easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because
                                they can
                                > see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no
                                danger to
                                > them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to
                                fall
                                > foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                                > infantile cult-building scams!
                                >
                                > Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                                > that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X
                                is
                                > supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                                > dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                                > question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while
                                he
                                > diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                                > irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are
                                "all-knowing".
                                > But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                                > again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                                > through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at
                                him
                                > with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on
                                similar
                                > endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I
                                confronted
                                > him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question
                                when it
                                > was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                                > finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                                > reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.
                                >
                                > To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                                > that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in
                                these
                                > unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position
                                would
                                > have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I
                                don't
                                > personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about
                                it on
                                > the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of
                                use to
                                > you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to
                                it."
                                >
                                > I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                                > me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                                > mirror to the self.
                                >
                                > Regan
                                >
                                >
                                > ----- Original Message -----
                                > From: broali4x
                                > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                                > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                CO2, The
                                > Sun, or PX?
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > dear masanga,
                                > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                                momma
                                > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                                > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                                > Am i clear!
                                >
                                > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > >
                                > > broali4x wrote:
                                > >
                                > > "Dear masanga,
                                > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                                > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                                > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                                > > attributable denial!"
                                > >
                                > > Dear broali4x,
                                > >
                                > > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not
                                WHY
                                > it is
                                > > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the
                                rest
                                > of it.
                                > >
                                > > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that
                                YOU
                                > > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you
                                are
                                > > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                                > web-site for
                                > > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                                > promise
                                > > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean
                                what
                                > you
                                > > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                                > >
                                > > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                                be
                                > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                                to
                                > > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                                > >
                                > > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one
                                you
                                > made
                                > > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request
                                for
                                > proof
                                > > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                                > that
                                > > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold
                                my
                                > breath
                                > > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                                > I'll
                                > > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                                > >
                                > > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                                > >
                                > > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                                > > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk
                                web-site
                                > where
                                > > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                                change
                                > on
                                > > earth, should you?
                                > >
                                > > Regan
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > From: broali4x
                                > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                                > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > CO2, The
                                > > Sun, or PX?
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Dear masanga,
                                > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                                > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                                > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                                > > attributable denial!
                                > > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                                be
                                > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                                to
                                > > become a witness as ell at such time!
                                > > I already have MY proof, sir.
                                > >
                                > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > > >
                                > > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your
                                question
                                > > since
                                > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                                > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                                > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                                > > >
                                > > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the
                                Kolbrin
                                > > and
                                > > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an
                                explanation
                                > of
                                > > how
                                > > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                                > > >
                                > > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to
                                accept
                                > > that
                                > > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                                > > true!
                                > > >
                                > > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                                > > climate
                                > > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me
                                off
                                > by
                                > > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                                > instead!
                                > > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                                > > >
                                > > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                                > > sir."
                                > > >
                                > > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                                > would
                                > > they?
                                > > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                                > using
                                > > the
                                > > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the
                                all-knowing
                                > > Zeta",
                                > > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                                > > really
                                > > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                                > > >
                                > > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                                > > climate
                                > > > change on earth at the present time.
                                > > >
                                > > > Regan
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > From: broali4x
                                > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                                > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > > CO2, The
                                > > > Sun, or PX?
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                                > > since
                                > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                                > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                                > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                                > > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                                > sir.
                                > > >
                                > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > > > >
                                > > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If
                                you
                                > > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and
                                you
                                > > have
                                > > > no
                                > > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you
                                said
                                > > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that
                                Nathaniel.
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Regan
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > From: broali4x
                                > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                                > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > > > CO2, The
                                > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Please sir massa,
                                > > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a
                                link
                                > > to
                                > > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                                > > > alledge
                                > > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                                > > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                                > > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and
                                switch!
                                > > > >
                                > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                                > have
                                > > > you
                                > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                                > sisters
                                > > > are
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                                > > > > > Please give your link."
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                                > > seems
                                > > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                                > > towards,
                                > > > or
                                > > > > about
                                > > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                                > > repeatedly
                                > > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                                > angels
                                > > > are
                                > > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                                > > > > communication
                                > > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven
                                sees
                                > > all
                                > > > > and
                                > > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's
                                ministers,
                                > > have
                                > > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                                > be
                                > > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > Regan
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > > From: broali4x
                                > > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                                > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                > > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > > > > CO2, The
                                > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                                have
                                > > you
                                > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                                > sisters
                                > > > are
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                                > > > > > Please give your link.
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                                > Planet
                                > > X
                                > > > is
                                > > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained
                                in
                                > > > their
                                > > > > > answer
                                > > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                                > > scandal
                                > > > > > which you
                                > > > > > > gave us (see below).
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Regan
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                                > > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                                > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                                > > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                                > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                > > > CO2,
                                > > > > > The
                                > > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                                > > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                                > is
                                > > > > > portraying,
                                > > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                                > > forlorn
                                > > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                                > vehemently
                                > > > > > clamoring
                                > > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is
                                not
                                > > the
                                > > > > > case?
                                > > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                                > > slowly
                                > > > > > screeching
                                > > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                                > > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be
                                blamed
                                > in
                                > > > > some
                                > > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                                > the
                                > > > > > supposed
                                > > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                                > for
                                > > > all
                                > > > > > the
                                > > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens
                                will
                                > be
                                > > > > next?
                                > > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more
                                reasonable
                                > > > > > explanation,
                                > > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                                > may
                                > > > find
                                > > > > > the
                                > > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                                > > causing
                                > > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                                > > > > > > CHANGE?
                                > > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                                > the
                                > > > > > present earth
                                > > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                                > aka
                                > > > > Planet
                                > > > > > X!
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                                > > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                                > > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                                > > > > Thousands
                                > > > > > of
                                > > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                                > were
                                > > > > > rigged,
                                > > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                                > What's
                                > > > the
                                > > > > > story
                                > > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring
                                it?
                                > > > > > > -
                                > > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                                > stated,
                                > > > is
                                > > > > > not the cause
                                > > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen
                                to
                                > > > > explain
                                > > > > > many
                                > > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as
                                the
                                > > > media
                                > > > > > and the
                                > > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                                > > > Warming
                                > > > > > was
                                > > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                                > > > > > establishment are
                                > > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                                > likely
                                > > to
                                > > > > > pass at
                                > > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                                > > panic
                                > > > > in
                                > > > > > the
                                > > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                                > their
                                > > > > > control to
                                > > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that
                                under
                                > > > Bush,
                                > > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line.
                                The
                                > > > media
                                > > > > > is
                                > > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                                > tout
                                > > > the
                                > > > > > line,
                                > > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now
                                that
                                > a
                                > > > leak
                                > > > > > has
                                > > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are
                                stunned
                                > > and
                                > > > > not
                                > > > > > sure
                                > > > > > > how
                                > > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                                > > might
                                > > > > be,
                                > > > > > if
                                > > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                                > > > > > > *
                                > > > > > > _________________________________________________
                                > > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                                > above:
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                                > > > confronted
                                > > > > > on
                                > > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                                > > > > > > -
                                > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                                > > > Climate
                                > > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing
                                conspiracy
                                > > to
                                > > > > > “HIDE”
                                > > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                                > > > > > > -
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                >
                                <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                                \
                                > \
                                > > \
                                > > > \
                                > > > > \
                                > > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                                > > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                                > scientistsÂ
                                > > > > > disagree that global
                                > > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                                > > > > > > Â -
                                > > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists
                                signed
                                > a
                                > > > > > petition
                                > > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the
                                RIGHTEOUS.
                                > > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                                >




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                              • masanga@talktalk.net
                                Hi folks, I see that Nathaniel is still intent upon being a pest and making a nuisance of himself. I realise that he cannot help doing it since he is not in
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                                  Hi folks,

                                  I see that Nathaniel is still intent upon being a pest and making a
                                  nuisance of himself. I realise that he cannot help doing it since he is not
                                  in control of himself, but what are we to do with him? He appears
                                  determined to impose himself on us and to fight the Zeta's corner in the
                                  manner of a crusade, so we cannot just ignore him. But he cannot discuss
                                  anything reasonably or even stick to the point so we cannot engage him in
                                  discussion or argue out any points with him either. He does not absorb any
                                  information that you give him, is way out of his depth in every subject that
                                  comes up here and seems to be functioning mentally on automatic pilot. So I
                                  find myself wondering how someone who is exhibiting such a deep level of
                                  unconsciousness can even get through their day, as well as why they have
                                  come here to this forum and what they really need from us here.

                                  He demands our attention but when we give it to him he does not like
                                  what we find in him and reacts against it with hostility. But we are not
                                  responsible for that. He is. So I propose to continue to give him the
                                  attention that he is demanding and leave it to him to deal with whatever
                                  problems my doing that may give him. And my way of doing that will be
                                  to reply to his latest epistle conscientiously, bit by bit, one step at a
                                  time.

                                  He writes:

                                  "Dear Mr. Massaggga,"

                                  For reasons relating to the history of this thread I take it that he
                                  is addressing his post to me, but my name is not Massaggga as everyone here
                                  who is not a newcomer must know - everyone except Nathaniel, that is. "Mr
                                  Massaggga" is a character that Nathaniel has invented and who exists only in
                                  his imaginative mind. Why has he done this? Why can he not take in what
                                  another person's name actually is and relate to that person as they are?
                                  Why must he replace them in his mind with a character who he has dreamt up?
                                  Who is this dream-person "Mr Massaggga"? Where in Nathaniel's mind and
                                  being did he come from? He must be the part of Nathaniel's unknown self
                                  whose name is "Mr Massaggga".

                                  Apparently the Mr Massaggga-part of himself is not behaving
                                  properly in Nathaniel's mind though, since he (Nathaniel) tells him:

                                  "You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                                  but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                                  intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                                  Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran."

                                  It seems that Nathaniel is having a bit of trouble determining
                                  who Mr Massaggga is too, in spite of the fact that he is Nathaniel's own
                                  imaginary creation. Nathaniel describes him as being on the one hand like a
                                  baby in soiled diapers but on the other like a sadist as exemplified in his
                                  mind by Sese Siko Mobuto and the Shah of Iran. There is a big difference
                                  between these two types of character, the helpless baby and the tyrannical
                                  sadist, and I can imagine how perplexing it must be for Nathaniel not to be
                                  able to tell one from the other. But since he is the creator of all the
                                  characters who have appeared in his mind - Mr Massaggga, the baby, the
                                  sadist, Mobuto and the Shah of Iran - they are all aspects of himself and he
                                  is Mr Massaggga, the baby, the sadist, Mobuto, the Shah of Iran and whoever
                                  else his imagination may dream up to inhabit his chaotic subjective
                                  inner-world.

                                  However, his next sentence shows us that he is not really interested
                                  in resolving the question of who and what Mr Massaggga really is anyway
                                  since he abandons that problem unsolved and gets on with what seems to him
                                  to be the more important business of telling Mr Massaggga what to do. He
                                  writes:

                                  "At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                                  Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                                  Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                                  night around the clock."

                                  Evidently he has come a long way in his mind from the original
                                  subject of this thread - Planet X as the cause of climate change - and that
                                  has passed into oblivion for all he seems to care. The most urgent priority
                                  in his mind is for this unknowable and unimportant Mr Massaggga to find out
                                  how the wonderful, all-important Pres. Obama and his family are favored by
                                  heaven and are enjoying divine protection continuously. Of course I can
                                  only guess at why Nathaniel has seized upon Pres. Obama (and the Zeta) to
                                  pin all his faith and hopes upon. I can only tell that this is what he
                                  appears to have done and that he appears to be doing it with the kind of
                                  religious zeal that only born saints possess. But their devotion is to God,
                                  not a man, and Obama is a man, not God. The Zeta are not God either. So I
                                  think Nathaniel is doing something very unwise by fixing his adulation on
                                  the man Obama and the Zeta-beings and that he is practicing a degenerate
                                  kind of religion in doing so. To me he is simply worshipping false idols.

                                  I realise though that I could be misjudging him and I would not have
                                  a problem with him worshipping these personages if he would just get on with
                                  practicing his self-chosen religion and leave me and everyone else to
                                  practice our own as well in peace. But it seems he cannot do that. Instead
                                  he has to try to urge, cajole, browbeat and verbally-horsewhip everyone else
                                  into worshipping his chosen deities too, even when it has nothing to do with
                                  the topic under discussion and nothing to do with the purpose of this forum
                                  either! Like the knights crusaders of old, it seems that our Nathaniel is
                                  on a holy mission to conquer the world in the name of Obama and the Zeta, to
                                  convert all of us unrighteous heathens to his new religion and to stamp
                                  viciously on all who refuse to accept it and even upon those who simply dare
                                  to question it!

                                  He's got some hope! He has got "fundamentalist fanatic" written all
                                  over him and people can see him coming. No-one is going to convert to his
                                  religion because of his overbearing, aggressive and desultory efforts to
                                  persuade them. Any fool can see that - well, any fool except Nathaniel, I
                                  mean. But even if his beligerent, dogmatic personality was not sufficiently
                                  off-putting to persuade everyone that any super-beings who he worships have
                                  to be worth avoiding, there is also the threatening sub-text of his message
                                  that you had better surrender and conform-or-else to make you want to run a
                                  mile from him and his judgemental, domineering cult. He always ends on a
                                  threateneing note which seeks to put the fear of God into the reader and
                                  this time was no exception. He writes:

                                  "Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                                  if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                                  wicked!
                                  Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                                  Jambo"

                                  Oh my, oh my, just three more years in which to turn from our evil
                                  ways and make ourselves ready to receive the final judgement of God Almighty
                                  upon our souls! How will we ever be ready in time?

                                  Regan


                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  From: broali4x
                                  To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:53 AM
                                  Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The
                                  Sun, or PX?





                                  Dear Mr. Massaggga,
                                  You know darn well that you are NOT a beloved baby in soiled diapers,
                                  but you are acting mentally like one and I surmise that it is either
                                  intentional or in the sad category of such sadistic people as Sese Siko
                                  Mobuto or the wicked deposed Shah of Iran.
                                  At any rate, please do us all a favor and check out what the beloved
                                  Zetas space angels have said about Beloved USA president Barack Hussein
                                  Obama and how he and his family are protected and guided 24/7 day ,
                                  night around the clock. Otherwise, otherwise, he would be dead long ago
                                  if not for the true GOD on this the Last Day rule of the greedy sadistic
                                  wicked!
                                  Note: We have but 3 more years remaining on the clock.
                                  Jambo

                                  --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, <masanga@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > I have been away from this forum discussing global warming on
                                  > another and have just read broali4x's latest desultory address to me.
                                  Good
                                  > grief! I see that he is still trying to bluff his way out of the
                                  > embarrassing situation into which he has put himself. He writes:
                                  >
                                  > "dear masanga,
                                  > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                                  momma
                                  > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                                  > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                                  > Am i clear!"
                                  >
                                  > I thank heaven that he is not my "momma"! In view of his
                                  > mean-spirited refusal to give me a straight and honest answer to my
                                  simple
                                  > and honest request to know how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                                  climate
                                  > change, I don't imagine I would get my diaper changed very often if I
                                  was a
                                  > baby and he was my "momma"!
                                  >
                                  > I must say that I cannot understand why he will not answer my
                                  > question after having first told me that he would answer it. I mean,
                                  why is
                                  > it such a big deal if he is already aware of a "highly cogent
                                  explanation"
                                  > given by the Zeta on the ZetaTalk web-site? If he cannot answer my
                                  question
                                  > himself personally, why does he not simply give me a link to the
                                  Zeta's
                                  > explanation so that I can go straight to it and save myself the rest
                                  of my
                                  > lifetime that I would otherwise have to spend on trawling through the
                                  entire
                                  > ZetaTalk archives in a possibly fruitless search for it? Not being
                                  very
                                  > helpful, is he? Hardly STO!
                                  >
                                  > He ends by asking/stating "Am i clear!". Isn't it amazing how
                                  > someone who has gone to such elaborate trouble to be awkward, evasive,
                                  > misleading, confusing, double-talking and verbally-abusive can cap all
                                  that
                                  > by making out that he is being "clear"? Of course he is not clear! He
                                  > commands me "for the final time" to take my "as" to "the source". I
                                  think I
                                  > can probably guess what he means by my "as" but what does he mean by
                                  "the
                                  > source", and where is it? He refuses to say! I have asked him for a
                                  link
                                  > to the relevant place on the ZetaTalk web-site and he won't give it!
                                  How
                                  > can he direct me to a "source" that could be anywhere in the ZetaTalk
                                  > archives and yet suggest that he is being clear? He is being totally
                                  opaque
                                  > about that matter!
                                  >
                                  > And yet in other ways he is quite transparent. His behaviour and
                                  > his ways of relating to other people are crude and simple, yet
                                  calculated to
                                  > trick people, like the obvious ways of a street-kid trying to shake
                                  down any
                                  > tourists who wander onto his self-defined patch. These characteristics
                                  are
                                  > easy for mature adults to spot in him and to understand and because
                                  they can
                                  > see through his childish tricks and games so easily he presents no
                                  danger to
                                  > them. One would have to be abnormally gullible and immature oneself to
                                  fall
                                  > foul of broali4x's unthought-out tricks or get caught in one of his
                                  > infantile cult-building scams!
                                  >
                                  > Anyway, what does this all boil down to? It is now patently clear
                                  > that when broali4x said he would answer my question about how Planet X
                                  is
                                  > supposed to be causing climate change on earth, he lied. His lie was a
                                  > dishonest trick intended to deflect me from pursuing that unanswerable
                                  > question. But it was just a delaying-tactic to keep me on hold while
                                  he
                                  > diverted me off onto other paths. First he preoccupied me with the
                                  > irrelevant question of where I had read that the Zeta are
                                  "all-knowing".
                                  > But I answered that one directly and posed my original question to him
                                  > again. He responded by trying to divert me off into endless wanderings
                                  > through the Kolbrin but I was ready for that one too and came back at
                                  him
                                  > with my original question again. Next he tried sending me off on
                                  similar
                                  > endless wanderings through the ZetaTalk archives and this time I
                                  confronted
                                  > him with his dishonesty in saying that he would answer my question
                                  when it
                                  > was now evident that he had no intention of actually doing that. And
                                  > finally, his response to that was to write the personally abusive post
                                  > reproduced above. And he still has not answered my question.
                                  >
                                  > To my mind broali4x's dishonesty here is the kind of misbehaviour
                                  > that small children indulge in. Mature grown-ups do not behave in
                                  these
                                  > unnecessarily duplicitous ways. A grown-up in broali4x's position
                                  would
                                  > have responded to my question by simply saying something like, "Well I
                                  don't
                                  > personally know the answer to that one but I did see something about
                                  it on
                                  > the ZetaTalk web-site that said something about it that might be of
                                  use to
                                  > you. Let me see if I can find it and get back to you with a link to
                                  it."
                                  >
                                  > I guess broali4x cannot be a grown-up. It's funny how he imagined
                                  > me as a baby in diapers, don't you think? The mind is such a wonderful
                                  > mirror to the self.
                                  >
                                  > Regan
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > From: broali4x
                                  > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                  > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:21 PM
                                  > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                  CO2, The
                                  > Sun, or PX?
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > dear masanga,
                                  > You acting like a STS baby whose diaper is soil and I am not your
                                  momma
                                  > whom you are privy to demand a change.
                                  > Again, one again and for the final time, take your as to the source.
                                  > Am i clear!
                                  >
                                  > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > broali4x wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > "Dear masanga,
                                  > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                                  > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                                  > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                                  > > attributable denial!"
                                  > >
                                  > > Dear broali4x,
                                  > >
                                  > > I asked HOW Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change, not
                                  WHY
                                  > it is
                                  > > supposed to be causing abnormal weather, earthquakes and all the
                                  rest
                                  > of it.
                                  > >
                                  > > I think you are being dishonest over this Nathaniel. You said that
                                  YOU
                                  > > would answer my question but you have refused to do so and now you
                                  are
                                  > > telling me that I should have gone hunting through the ZetaTalk
                                  > web-site for
                                  > > my answer instead of expecting it from you. You have broken your
                                  > promise
                                  > > and shown us that your word is worthless because you do not mean
                                  what
                                  > you
                                  > > say. You are being a phoney Nathaniel. Is that what you want to be?
                                  > >
                                  > > "All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                                  be
                                  > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                                  to
                                  > > become a witness as ell at such time!"
                                  > >
                                  > > Absolute proof, eh? Wow, that's an even bigger claim than the one
                                  you
                                  > made
                                  > > when you said you would answer my question, which wasn't a request
                                  for
                                  > proof
                                  > > but only for an explanation anyway! However, since you have shown us
                                  > that
                                  > > you cannot, or will not answer that question in fact, I won't hold
                                  my
                                  > breath
                                  > > waiting for your promised "absolute proof" to be delivered either.
                                  > I'll
                                  > > believe it if and when I see it, but not on your say-so.
                                  > >
                                  > > "I already have MY proof, sir."
                                  > >
                                  > > Bully for you. In that case though, you should have no difficulty in
                                  > > providing me with a link to the precise place on the ZetaTalk
                                  web-site
                                  > where
                                  > > the Zeta explain how Planet X is supposed to be causing climate
                                  change
                                  > on
                                  > > earth, should you?
                                  > >
                                  > > Regan
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > From: broali4x
                                  > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:07 PM
                                  > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                  > CO2, The
                                  > > Sun, or PX?
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > Dear masanga,
                                  > > If you have truly read ZetaTalk.com and have NOT found their highly
                                  > > cogent explanation for why our planet earth is experiencing abnormal
                                  > > weather and earthquakes and etc., then it would most likely be
                                  > > attributable denial!
                                  > > All that I can say is by next year or in 2011, absolute proof will
                                  be
                                  > > forthcoming. I hope two years is not beyond your score of patience
                                  to
                                  > > become a witness as ell at such time!
                                  > > I already have MY proof, sir.
                                  > >
                                  > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > > "Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your
                                  question
                                  > > since
                                  > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                                  > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                                  > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >"
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Good grief, what are you talking about? I have a copy of the
                                  Kolbrin
                                  > > and
                                  > > > cannot find any mention of Planet X in it, let alone an
                                  explanation
                                  > of
                                  > > how
                                  > > > Planet X is supposed to be causing climate change on earth now.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Neither am I "adverse" to the Zeta. I just have no reason to
                                  accept
                                  > > that
                                  > > > their suggestion about climate change being caused by Planet X is
                                  > > true!
                                  > > >
                                  > > > You said that you would answer my question about Planet X causing
                                  > > climate
                                  > > > change. But you have not answered it and now you are fobbing me
                                  off
                                  > by
                                  > > > referring me to the Kolbrin, which does not answer it either,
                                  > instead!
                                  > > > Isn't this a classic example of "Bait and Switch"?
                                  > > >
                                  > > > "By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                                  > > sir."
                                  > > >
                                  > > > No, and no-one would have expected them to have said it either,
                                  > would
                                  > > they?
                                  > > > I never said that they said it in the first place anyway. I was
                                  > using
                                  > > the
                                  > > > literary device known as "irony" when I referred to "the
                                  all-knowing
                                  > > Zeta",
                                  > > > meaning that they are pretending to be all-knowing, not that they
                                  > > really
                                  > > > are, or that they said that they are. Do you "get it" now?
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I am still waiting to hear how Planet X is supposed to be causing
                                  > > climate
                                  > > > change on earth at the present time.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Regan
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > From: broali4x
                                  > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 AM
                                  > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                  CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                  > > CO2, The
                                  > > > Sun, or PX?
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Maybe the Egyptian KOLBRIN Bible would better answer your question
                                  > > since
                                  > > > you are adverse to the beloved Zeta space people.
                                  > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml
                                  > > > <http://kolbrin.com/articles/index.shtml> >
                                  > > > By the way, the Zetas have never said that they are ALL Knowing,
                                  > sir.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > I have already answered your question in my previous post. If
                                  you
                                  > > > > cannot read plain English I'm afraid that is not my fault and
                                  you
                                  > > have
                                  > > > no
                                  > > > > grounds to accuse me of playing bait and switch.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > In any case, your question has no bearing on mine, which you
                                  said
                                  > > > > you would answer. I am still waiting for you to do that
                                  Nathaniel.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Regan
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > > From: broali4x
                                  > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:42 PM
                                  > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                  > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                  > > > CO2, The
                                  > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Please sir massa,
                                  > > > > All I am asking is for you to please give us and this group a
                                  link
                                  > > to
                                  > > > > where in heaven or hell you got any information from that say or
                                  > > > alledge
                                  > > > > that the beloved space Zetas are either ALL KNOWING or etc.
                                  > > > > If you do or can, your statement would be TRUE.
                                  > > > > You cannot, or otherwise, you are trying to play bait and
                                  switch!
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > "You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                                  > have
                                  > > > you
                                  > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                                  > sisters
                                  > > > are
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > 'ALL KNOWING'????
                                  > > > > > Please give your link."
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > I have not heard or read it anywhere in so many words, but it
                                  > > seems
                                  > > > > > to be implied in a lot of statements that people have made
                                  > > towards,
                                  > > > or
                                  > > > > about
                                  > > > > > the Zeta, including some of yours. For example, you have
                                  > > repeatedly
                                  > > > > > referred to the Zeta as "space angels", have you not? Well,
                                  > angels
                                  > > > are
                                  > > > > > supposed to be heavenly beings who are in constant contact and
                                  > > > > communication
                                  > > > > > with the Spirit of Heaven, i.e. "God". The Spirit of Heaven
                                  sees
                                  > > all
                                  > > > > and
                                  > > > > > knows all and the angels of Heaven, who are Heaven's
                                  ministers,
                                  > > have
                                  > > > > > unrestricted access to Heaven's knowledge. Therefore they must
                                  > be
                                  > > > > > all-knowing. Isn't that correct?
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > I think I have answered your question and now it's your turn.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Regan
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > > > From: broali4x
                                  > > > > > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:13 PM
                                  > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] Re: What is really causing
                                  > > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                  > > > > CO2, The
                                  > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > You asked me a question and I will answer, but first, where
                                  have
                                  > > you
                                  > > > > > heard or read that our the beloved space Zeta brother and
                                  > sisters
                                  > > > are
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > "ALL KNOWING"????
                                  > > > > > Please give your link.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > --- In ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com, masanga@ wrote:
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Would the all-knowing Zeta care to explain precisely HOW
                                  > Planet
                                  > > X
                                  > > > is
                                  > > > > > > supposed to be causing climate change? It is not explained
                                  in
                                  > > > their
                                  > > > > > answer
                                  > > > > > > to the question of "What's the story?" on the Climategate
                                  > > scandal
                                  > > > > > which you
                                  > > > > > > gave us (see below).
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Regan
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > > > > > From: nathaniel x vance
                                  > > > > > > To: dr.ibrahim@
                                  > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:59 PM
                                  > > > > > > Subject: [ufodiscussion] What is really causing
                                  > CLIMATE-CHANGE:
                                  > > > CO2,
                                  > > > > > The
                                  > > > > > > Sun, or PX?
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > What is really causing CLIMATE-CHANGE: CO2, The Sun, or PX?
                                  > > > > > > Global atmospheric temperatures are not rising, as the media
                                  > is
                                  > > > > > portraying,
                                  > > > > > > instead they are falling. Thus, why are a few governmental
                                  > > forlorn
                                  > > > > > > scientists alone with the likes of Mr. Al Gore still
                                  > vehemently
                                  > > > > > clamoring
                                  > > > > > > like a crying 3-year-old baby that falling temperatures is
                                  not
                                  > > the
                                  > > > > > case?
                                  > > > > > > However today, their misguided though profitable thesis is
                                  > > slowly
                                  > > > > > screeching
                                  > > > > > > to an ignominious halt, and rightly so.
                                  > > > > > > Is next all of a sudden, a fiery misbehaving Sun to be
                                  blamed
                                  > in
                                  > > > > some
                                  > > > > > > contorted way for all the commotion? And lastly, if neither
                                  > the
                                  > > > > > supposed
                                  > > > > > > greenhouse gas CO2, nor the sun pan out to be the real cause
                                  > for
                                  > > > all
                                  > > > > > the
                                  > > > > > > present earth change anomalies, then what in the heavens
                                  will
                                  > be
                                  > > > > next?
                                  > > > > > > Maybe in the message below, there is a better more
                                  reasonable
                                  > > > > > explanation,
                                  > > > > > > albeit from beings who are from elsewhere or from above, we
                                  > may
                                  > > > find
                                  > > > > > the
                                  > > > > > > real answer to this mystery â€" “What is really
                                  > > causing
                                  > > > > > so-call CLIMATE
                                  > > > > > > CHANGE?
                                  > > > > > > Their short answer is and always has been since 1995…
                                  > the
                                  > > > > > present earth
                                  > > > > > > changes are being caused by one rogue planet named Nibiru -
                                  > aka
                                  > > > > Planet
                                  > > > > > X!
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > From ZetaTalk: (11-28-09)Â Â
                                  > > > > > <http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta548.htm
                                  > > > > > > [Questioner]Â Big scandal this week called "Climategate".
                                  > > > > Thousands
                                  > > > > > of
                                  > > > > > > scientist e-mails, showing the numbers for "global warming"
                                  > were
                                  > > > > > rigged,
                                  > > > > > > have been leaked. They said either hacker or inside job.
                                  > What's
                                  > > > the
                                  > > > > > story
                                  > > > > > > and why are the mainstream media and White House ignoring
                                  it?
                                  > > > > > > -
                                  > > > > > > [Zeta Response]Â Â Global Warming, as we have long
                                  > stated,
                                  > > > is
                                  > > > > > not the cause
                                  > > > > > > of the current Earth changes, but is rather a cover chosen
                                  to
                                  > > > > explain
                                  > > > > > many
                                  > > > > > > of the anticipated Earth changes. All was well as long as
                                  the
                                  > > > media
                                  > > > > > and the
                                  > > > > > > supposed scientific consensus made the statement that Global
                                  > > > Warming
                                  > > > > > was
                                  > > > > > > evident and undeniable. Since most people in power in the
                                  > > > > > establishment are
                                  > > > > > > aware that there is a presence in our inner solar system
                                  > likely
                                  > > to
                                  > > > > > pass at
                                  > > > > > > some point, and since the establishment has the opinion that
                                  > > panic
                                  > > > > in
                                  > > > > > the
                                  > > > > > > masses is the thing to fear, they pressed all those under
                                  > their
                                  > > > > > control to
                                  > > > > > > go along with this cover-up story. It is no secret that
                                  under
                                  > > > Bush,
                                  > > > > > > scientists were told what to say, ordered to toe the line.
                                  The
                                  > > > media
                                  > > > > > is
                                  > > > > > > controlled. Al Gore went forward like a sacrificial goat to
                                  > tout
                                  > > > the
                                  > > > > > line,
                                  > > > > > > knowing that eventually he would be shamed for this. Now
                                  that
                                  > a
                                  > > > leak
                                  > > > > > has
                                  > > > > > > been accomplished, those in charge of the cover-up are
                                  stunned
                                  > > and
                                  > > > > not
                                  > > > > > sure
                                  > > > > > > how
                                  > > > > > > to proceed. Their first approach is to see what the fallout
                                  > > might
                                  > > > > be,
                                  > > > > > if
                                  > > > > > > excuses can suffice.
                                  > > > > > > *
                                  > > > > > > _________________________________________________
                                  > > > > > > Here are a few more links which substantiates most of the
                                  > above:
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwkR3uuZMIM> Â Al Gore
                                  > > > confronted
                                  > > > > > on
                                  > > > > > > Climategate in Chicago
                                  > > > > > > -
                                  > > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac&feature=related>
                                  > > > Climate
                                  > > > > > > Bombshell: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing
                                  conspiracy
                                  > > to
                                  > > > > > “HIDE�
                                  > > > > > > the real data on so-call manmade climate change!
                                  > > > > > > -
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  <http://tadcronn.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/global-warming-consensus-31000\
                                  \
                                  > \
                                  > > \
                                  > > > \
                                  > > > > \
                                  > > > > > -scientists-disagree/>
                                  > > > > > > Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,486
                                  > scientistsÂ
                                  > > > > > disagree that global
                                  > > > > > > warning is real or caused by CO2 gas emissions!
                                  > > > > > > Â -
                                  > > > > > > <http://www.petitionproject.org>Â 31,486 scientists
                                  signed
                                  > a
                                  > > > > > petition
                                  > > > > > > verifying that global warming is nothing but a hoax!
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > The earthly ENDTIME of the Wicked - Not the
                                  RIGHTEOUS.
                                  > > > > > > salaam akwaaba jambo ashogee
                                  >

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