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  • Ted
    You do that soooo well. STANDING APPLAUSE ... From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:17 PM
    Message 1 of 16 , Oct 15, 2009
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      You do that soooo well. STANDING APPLAUSE
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <masanga@...>
      To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:17 PM
      Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Re: President Barack H. Obama Wins Nobel Peace
      Award!


      > To anyone who was familiar with some of the psychological maladies
      > to which human beings are prone, George Bush Jr would have rung alarm
      > bells
      > in their mind when he ended his first inaugural speech at the beginning of
      > 2001 with the bizarre, if immortal words, "And an angel still rides in the
      > whirlwind and directs this storm." His words sounded way offbeam because
      > there was no "storm" in the world at that time for any angel to ride in or
      > direct. But George Jr himself soon produced one and by so doing plunged
      > the
      > world into the violent anarchy and chaos with which we are all now
      > tragically familiar. Bush Jr was a textbook case of megalomania, as his
      > subsequent career demonstrated to the letter. He was frequently described
      > in the alternative media (i.e. the media not owned by his cronies) as
      > having
      > "a Napoleon complex", although personally I always thought that the Roman
      > Emperor Nero would have made a closer fit since he thought of himself as a
      > deity and George Jr seems to have had similar, if not exactly the same
      > pretentions.
      >
      > Why is it that all emperors are mad? Even if they start off with
      > all their marbles apparently intact they all seem to go stark staring
      > bonkers during their reigns. The Roman Emperor Caligula is probably a
      > good
      > example of that phenomenon. (He is the one who made his horse a senator.)
      > And after thousands of years of imperial craziness manifesting on the
      > world
      > scene, which you would think might teach us all that creating empires with
      > emperors to rule over them is actually not a very good idea, still
      > humanity
      > keeps generating new empires and new would-be emperors to rule over them
      > by
      > the minute. No matter how idealistic, libertarian-spirited, peace-loving
      > and prosperous a republic might be, it seems that its citizens will
      > eventually reject that model of political organisation and turn their
      > hard-won republic into an empire so that the dramatic spectacle of a
      > megalomaniac emperor being humiliated by the gods can be acted out in
      > human
      > experience over and over again.
      >
      > This is exactly what seems to many observers to have happened to
      > the
      > USA during the Bush Jr presidency, just like it happened to the
      > pre-imperial
      > republic of Ancient Rome. As everybody was celebrating the in-coming New
      > Year of 2006, the US President George W. Bush quietly declared that he no
      > longer considered himself to be bound by the Constitution of the United
      > States of America and would govern without regard to its contents
      > henceforward. That declaration has never been so much as challenged, let
      > alone overturned, in any court nor in the US Congress and so in that
      > fateful
      > moment Bush gave himself absolute powers over the USA and changed it from
      > being a republic into a de facto empire with himself as its emperor. By
      > default the citizens of the USA have already accepted their new,
      > diminished
      > status as subjects of the absolute imperial US President. As far as any
      > US
      > President needs to be concerned, the US Constitution can now be treated as
      > just "a goddam piece of paper!" with total impunity.
      >
      > You might expect perhaps that one of the first things on the new,
      > in-coming President Obama's agenda upon taking office would be to reverse
      > this appalling transformation of the US Republic that Bush Jr had wrought
      > and restore the rule of the Constitution and the status of his fellow
      > Americans as citizens of the Republic. But no. Obama has kept quiet
      > about
      > the whole tragedy and has simply stepped into the Presidency left to him
      > by
      > former Pres. Bush unchanged and without any declared intention to change
      > it
      > either. In short, Obama has accepted the role of new Emperor of the
      > United
      > States of America and all its dominions around the globe.
      >
      > Obama-lovers may believe that in his case being the absolute ruler
      > of the USA is no bad thing and is even a very good thing because he is an
      > exceptionally benign ruler and being so powerful will enable him to bring
      > the desperately-needed "change we can believe in" that he promised to
      > everyone. But already the signs of imperial megalomania are starting to
      > appear. Take for example this statement abstracted from his acceptance
      > speech for his Nobel Peace Prize:
      > “I am the Commander-in-Chief of a country that's … working … to
      > confront a ruthless adversary that directly threatens the American people
      > and our allies.”
      > (See http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23724.htm - 9th
      > paragraph down)
      >
      > Commander-in-Chief? Of a democracy??? Who is he to COMMAND "a
      > free
      > people, one nation under God"? And where does he get the inflated idea
      > that
      > this is the role to which he was elected? Already he appears to be
      > getting
      > above himself and is unconsciously putting his delusions of imperial
      > grandeur on display. Clearly Pres. Obama sees himself as the people's
      > ruler, not their servant. In his eyes it appears that he is the people's
      > boss. But in a democracy, the people are their own boss. In a democratic
      > republic the people are not there to take commands from their President.
      > The President is there to take the people's commands and carry them out.
      > If
      > the Republic still exists then Obama has got the wrong end of the stick
      > about what his role is as President. But of course, if the Republic has
      > been replaced by an empire and he is really the new de facto Emperor then
      > he
      > is right and it is the people who have got the wrong end of the stick.
      >
      > Either way it looks like a bad omen to me, I'm afraid. It must
      > also
      > be giving our ET visitors pause for thought too, I would imagine. How can
      > they form meaningful relationships with earth-humanity when it is
      > embroiled
      > in archaic imperial psychodramas that have brought down one civilization
      > after another in this planet's long and sordid history?
      >
      > Regan
      >
      >
      >
      > ------------------------------------
      >
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
    • masanga@talktalk.net
      Thanks Ted. You are too kind. But your appreciation makes the effort worthwhile. Regan ... From: Ted To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday,
      Message 2 of 16 , Oct 15, 2009
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        Thanks Ted. You are too kind. But your appreciation makes the
        effort worthwhile.

        Regan


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Ted
        To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:16 PM
        Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Re: President Barack H. Obama Wins Nobel Peace
        Award!


        You do that soooo well. STANDING APPLAUSE
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: <masanga@...>
        To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:17 PM
        Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Re: President Barack H. Obama Wins Nobel Peace
        Award!


        > To anyone who was familiar with some of the psychological maladies
        > to which human beings are prone, George Bush Jr would have rung alarm
        > bells
        > in their mind when he ended his first inaugural speech at the beginning of
        > 2001 with the bizarre, if immortal words, "And an angel still rides in the
        > whirlwind and directs this storm." His words sounded way offbeam because
        > there was no "storm" in the world at that time for any angel to ride in or
        > direct. But George Jr himself soon produced one and by so doing plunged
        > the
        > world into the violent anarchy and chaos with which we are all now
        > tragically familiar. Bush Jr was a textbook case of megalomania, as his
        > subsequent career demonstrated to the letter. He was frequently described
        > in the alternative media (i.e. the media not owned by his cronies) as
        > having
        > "a Napoleon complex", although personally I always thought that the Roman
        > Emperor Nero would have made a closer fit since he thought of himself as a
        > deity and George Jr seems to have had similar, if not exactly the same
        > pretentions.
        >
        > Why is it that all emperors are mad? Even if they start off with
        > all their marbles apparently intact they all seem to go stark staring
        > bonkers during their reigns. The Roman Emperor Caligula is probably a
        > good
        > example of that phenomenon. (He is the one who made his horse a senator.)
        > And after thousands of years of imperial craziness manifesting on the
        > world
        > scene, which you would think might teach us all that creating empires with
        > emperors to rule over them is actually not a very good idea, still
        > humanity
        > keeps generating new empires and new would-be emperors to rule over them
        > by
        > the minute. No matter how idealistic, libertarian-spirited, peace-loving
        > and prosperous a republic might be, it seems that its citizens will
        > eventually reject that model of political organisation and turn their
        > hard-won republic into an empire so that the dramatic spectacle of a
        > megalomaniac emperor being humiliated by the gods can be acted out in
        > human
        > experience over and over again.
        >
        > This is exactly what seems to many observers to have happened to
        > the
        > USA during the Bush Jr presidency, just like it happened to the
        > pre-imperial
        > republic of Ancient Rome. As everybody was celebrating the in-coming New
        > Year of 2006, the US President George W. Bush quietly declared that he no
        > longer considered himself to be bound by the Constitution of the United
        > States of America and would govern without regard to its contents
        > henceforward. That declaration has never been so much as challenged, let
        > alone overturned, in any court nor in the US Congress and so in that
        > fateful
        > moment Bush gave himself absolute powers over the USA and changed it from
        > being a republic into a de facto empire with himself as its emperor. By
        > default the citizens of the USA have already accepted their new,
        > diminished
        > status as subjects of the absolute imperial US President. As far as any
        > US
        > President needs to be concerned, the US Constitution can now be treated as
        > just "a goddam piece of paper!" with total impunity.
        >
        > You might expect perhaps that one of the first things on the new,
        > in-coming President Obama's agenda upon taking office would be to reverse
        > this appalling transformation of the US Republic that Bush Jr had wrought
        > and restore the rule of the Constitution and the status of his fellow
        > Americans as citizens of the Republic. But no. Obama has kept quiet
        > about
        > the whole tragedy and has simply stepped into the Presidency left to him
        > by
        > former Pres. Bush unchanged and without any declared intention to change
        > it
        > either. In short, Obama has accepted the role of new Emperor of the
        > United
        > States of America and all its dominions around the globe.
        >
        > Obama-lovers may believe that in his case being the absolute ruler
        > of the USA is no bad thing and is even a very good thing because he is an
        > exceptionally benign ruler and being so powerful will enable him to bring
        > the desperately-needed "change we can believe in" that he promised to
        > everyone. But already the signs of imperial megalomania are starting to
        > appear. Take for example this statement abstracted from his acceptance
        > speech for his Nobel Peace Prize:
        > “I am the Commander-in-Chief of a country that's … working … to
        > confront a ruthless adversary that directly threatens the American people
        > and our allies.”
        > (See http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23724.htm - 9th
        > paragraph down)
        >
        > Commander-in-Chief? Of a democracy??? Who is he to COMMAND "a
        > free
        > people, one nation under God"? And where does he get the inflated idea
        > that
        > this is the role to which he was elected? Already he appears to be
        > getting
        > above himself and is unconsciously putting his delusions of imperial
        > grandeur on display. Clearly Pres. Obama sees himself as the people's
        > ruler, not their servant. In his eyes it appears that he is the people's
        > boss. But in a democracy, the people are their own boss. In a democratic
        > republic the people are not there to take commands from their President.
        > The President is there to take the people's commands and carry them out.
        > If
        > the Republic still exists then Obama has got the wrong end of the stick
        > about what his role is as President. But of course, if the Republic has
        > been replaced by an empire and he is really the new de facto Emperor then
        > he
        > is right and it is the people who have got the wrong end of the stick.
        >
        > Either way it looks like a bad omen to me, I'm afraid. It must
        > also
        > be giving our ET visitors pause for thought too, I would imagine. How can
        > they form meaningful relationships with earth-humanity when it is
        > embroiled
        > in archaic imperial psychodramas that have brought down one civilization
        > after another in this planet's long and sordid history?
        >
        > Regan
        >
        >
        >
        > ------------------------------------
      • Ted
        Just keep up the great work. When you right the way you do, your words are as if I wrote it , but not as eloquently ... From: To:
        Message 3 of 16 , Oct 15, 2009
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          Just keep up the great work. When you right the way you do, your words are
          as if I wrote it , but not as eloquently



          ----- Original Message -----
          From: <masanga@...>
          To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:14 PM
          Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Re: President Barack H. Obama Wins Nobel Peace
          Award!


          > Thanks Ted. You are too kind. But your appreciation makes the
          > effort worthwhile.
          >
          > Regan
          >
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: Ted
          > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:16 PM
          > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Re: President Barack H. Obama Wins Nobel
          > Peace
          > Award!
          >
          >
          > You do that soooo well. STANDING APPLAUSE
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: <masanga@...>
          > To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
          > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:17 PM
          > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Re: President Barack H. Obama Wins Nobel
          > Peace
          > Award!
          >
          >
          >> To anyone who was familiar with some of the psychological maladies
          >> to which human beings are prone, George Bush Jr would have rung alarm
          >> bells
          >> in their mind when he ended his first inaugural speech at the beginning
          >> of
          >> 2001 with the bizarre, if immortal words, "And an angel still rides in
          >> the
          >> whirlwind and directs this storm." His words sounded way offbeam because
          >> there was no "storm" in the world at that time for any angel to ride in
          >> or
          >> direct. But George Jr himself soon produced one and by so doing plunged
          >> the
          >> world into the violent anarchy and chaos with which we are all now
          >> tragically familiar. Bush Jr was a textbook case of megalomania, as his
          >> subsequent career demonstrated to the letter. He was frequently
          >> described
          >> in the alternative media (i.e. the media not owned by his cronies) as
          >> having
          >> "a Napoleon complex", although personally I always thought that the Roman
          >> Emperor Nero would have made a closer fit since he thought of himself as
          >> a
          >> deity and George Jr seems to have had similar, if not exactly the same
          >> pretentions.
          >>
          >> Why is it that all emperors are mad? Even if they start off with
          >> all their marbles apparently intact they all seem to go stark staring
          >> bonkers during their reigns. The Roman Emperor Caligula is probably a
          >> good
          >> example of that phenomenon. (He is the one who made his horse a
          >> senator.)
          >> And after thousands of years of imperial craziness manifesting on the
          >> world
          >> scene, which you would think might teach us all that creating empires
          >> with
          >> emperors to rule over them is actually not a very good idea, still
          >> humanity
          >> keeps generating new empires and new would-be emperors to rule over them
          >> by
          >> the minute. No matter how idealistic, libertarian-spirited, peace-loving
          >> and prosperous a republic might be, it seems that its citizens will
          >> eventually reject that model of political organisation and turn their
          >> hard-won republic into an empire so that the dramatic spectacle of a
          >> megalomaniac emperor being humiliated by the gods can be acted out in
          >> human
          >> experience over and over again.
          >>
          >> This is exactly what seems to many observers to have happened to
          >> the
          >> USA during the Bush Jr presidency, just like it happened to the
          >> pre-imperial
          >> republic of Ancient Rome. As everybody was celebrating the in-coming New
          >> Year of 2006, the US President George W. Bush quietly declared that he no
          >> longer considered himself to be bound by the Constitution of the United
          >> States of America and would govern without regard to its contents
          >> henceforward. That declaration has never been so much as challenged, let
          >> alone overturned, in any court nor in the US Congress and so in that
          >> fateful
          >> moment Bush gave himself absolute powers over the USA and changed it from
          >> being a republic into a de facto empire with himself as its emperor. By
          >> default the citizens of the USA have already accepted their new,
          >> diminished
          >> status as subjects of the absolute imperial US President. As far as any
          >> US
          >> President needs to be concerned, the US Constitution can now be treated
          >> as
          >> just "a goddam piece of paper!" with total impunity.
          >>
          >> You might expect perhaps that one of the first things on the new,
          >> in-coming President Obama's agenda upon taking office would be to reverse
          >> this appalling transformation of the US Republic that Bush Jr had wrought
          >> and restore the rule of the Constitution and the status of his fellow
          >> Americans as citizens of the Republic. But no. Obama has kept quiet
          >> about
          >> the whole tragedy and has simply stepped into the Presidency left to him
          >> by
          >> former Pres. Bush unchanged and without any declared intention to change
          >> it
          >> either. In short, Obama has accepted the role of new Emperor of the
          >> United
          >> States of America and all its dominions around the globe.
          >>
          >> Obama-lovers may believe that in his case being the absolute ruler
          >> of the USA is no bad thing and is even a very good thing because he is an
          >> exceptionally benign ruler and being so powerful will enable him to bring
          >> the desperately-needed "change we can believe in" that he promised to
          >> everyone. But already the signs of imperial megalomania are starting to
          >> appear. Take for example this statement abstracted from his acceptance
          >> speech for his Nobel Peace Prize:
          >> “I am the Commander-in-Chief of a country that's … working … to
          >> confront a ruthless adversary that directly threatens the American people
          >> and our allies.”
          >> (See http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23724.htm - 9th
          >> paragraph down)
          >>
          >> Commander-in-Chief? Of a democracy??? Who is he to COMMAND "a
          >> free
          >> people, one nation under God"? And where does he get the inflated idea
          >> that
          >> this is the role to which he was elected? Already he appears to be
          >> getting
          >> above himself and is unconsciously putting his delusions of imperial
          >> grandeur on display. Clearly Pres. Obama sees himself as the people's
          >> ruler, not their servant. In his eyes it appears that he is the people's
          >> boss. But in a democracy, the people are their own boss. In a
          >> democratic
          >> republic the people are not there to take commands from their President.
          >> The President is there to take the people's commands and carry them out.
          >> If
          >> the Republic still exists then Obama has got the wrong end of the stick
          >> about what his role is as President. But of course, if the Republic has
          >> been replaced by an empire and he is really the new de facto Emperor then
          >> he
          >> is right and it is the people who have got the wrong end of the stick.
          >>
          >> Either way it looks like a bad omen to me, I'm afraid. It must
          >> also
          >> be giving our ET visitors pause for thought too, I would imagine. How
          >> can
          >> they form meaningful relationships with earth-humanity when it is
          >> embroiled
          >> in archaic imperial psychodramas that have brought down one civilization
          >> after another in this planet's long and sordid history?
          >>
          >> Regan
          >>
          >>
          >>
          >> ------------------------------------
          >
          >
          >
          > ------------------------------------
          >
          > Yahoo! Groups Links
          >
          >
          >
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