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  • Dex
    (Note: Lost information finally found...my friend C. Stone...Enjoy...Dex) Subject: [SO] Black Virgin Mountain Recovery Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:11:58 -0000
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      (Note: Lost information finally found...my friend C. Stone...Enjoy...Dex)

      Subject:
      [SO] Black Virgin Mountain Recovery
      Date:
      Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:11:58 -0000
      From:
      "dexxxaa <dexxa@...>" <dexxa@...>
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      Throughout his tenure Sgt. Clifford Stone was to do and learn things
      the Department of Defense would classify Top Secret. When he became
      the unit communications-specialist Nuclear-Biological-Chemical �
      Communications � Non Commissioned Officer in Charge �
      (NBC/COMMO/NCIC), he signed an agreement � Standard Agreement Form
      #4193 � that would never permit him to share his experiences with
      anyone, not even his family. With the death of Sgt. Stone's son on
      Aug. 18/1995 he feared his family did not really know him. Grief
      stricken, Stone decided to make information which he would have
      otherwise taken to his grave, public. Stone's decision to do this is
      an effort to show his family why he could not tell them what he did;
      why military personnel would come late at night precipitating Stone's
      absence for weeks; why he could not always be there for his family;
      why he missed the ball games, graduations and birthdays. The material
      contained herein has been reviewed by Sgt. Stone prior to
      publication.
      In January of 1970 Stone arrived in Vietnam for what he considered
      would be a "plush" assignment. He was assigned to 277th SS (Special
      Services) battalion Headquarters-headquarters. Upon his arrival Stone
      decided to tell the First Sergeant that he could not type despite his
      file showing that he was a 71-Bravo (clerk-typist.) Having a deep
      sense of duty, Stone chose to put it all on the line by asking to be
      assigned to combat. Although his superior felt this was admirable and
      showed signs of being a good soldier, Stone's request was denied.
      Stone assumed his 8AM to 4PM-shift which left his evenings open to
      other pursuits. Stone reflects: "There was not a lot of night-life in
      Vietnam � particularly in the base camp located only 7 miles from the
      Cambodian boarder � and being young, and I guess foolish � I felt I
      had to prove I was not afraid to face the enemy." Stone found himself
      sneaking out of camp in the evenings to encounter the enemy. One
      evening while Sgt. Stone was chatting with Sgt. Gaston, they noticed
      unusual red, green and blue lights dancing above and through the
      trees in the area of a rubber plantation owned by the Michelin Rubber
      Company. "The lights," reflects Stone, "were red, green, blue, self
      luminous and unusual."
      Stone left for that area the next evening in hope of determining the
      source of the lights. Upon arriving at the road which paralleled a
      section of the three-hundred metre kill-zone surrounding the camp,
      Stone heard someone say, "You're late. What kept you?"
      Stone spun in the direction of the voice raising his weapon. Stone
      could make out a familiar face. It was the face of the man Stone had
      come to know as "Colonel." Stone had met the Colonel on several
      previous recovery operations. He had always been the man in charge.
      "You're lucky I didn't shoot you," said Stone. The Colonel smiled
      saying, "I don't believe you're here to kill. I believe you would die
      for your country, and you might kill to protect others, but I don't
      believe you would kill to save yourself."
      The Colonel motioned towards three helicopters known as "Jolly-
      green's." Stone noted that they looked like the "Psy-opps" craft used
      for dropping propaganda leaflets. Stone followed the Colonel and
      entered one of the helicopters. Stone immediately noticed the
      equipment within the craft was not typical equipment. He recalled
      that it looked as though the chopper was equipped for electronic
      surveillance rather than for war.
      Stone turned to the Colonel and asked what he was doing there and why
      he (the Colonel) had him (Stone) flying with him. The Colonel
      said, "We have a situation here that we think you may be able to help
      with." [Double space] Stone concluded that his nocturnal forays from
      the camp had not gone unnoticed. "We uncovered a VC tunnel complex
      half way up the Black Virgin Mountain," the Colonel said.
      It was generally believed that the US-forces had the top of the
      mountain. This position was held by a special-forces communication
      center gathering information for the National Security Agency. The
      bottom of the mountain was also considered to be held by the US-
      forces. Everything between was thought to be held by Charlie.
      The choppers found a safe landing-zone touching down. Sgt. Stone was
      extremely concerned, thinking that Charlie was about to unload
      everything it had on the group. Curiously, nothing happened. The
      Colonel told Stone this was a dead zone and quite safe. "Dead zone,"
      though Sgt. Stone, "what did that, mean?"
      The group exited the craft making their way toward the opening of the
      alleged communist tunnel complex � one hundred and fifty metres away.
      They encountered other friendly troops which were alleged to be
      combing the area for the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) and Vietcong
      (VC) who were known to be in the area. They were told by these troops
      that they would remain in touch with Stone and his group because
      Charlie was known to have many entrances and exits in their tunnel
      systems.
      Stone and the team entered the tunnel and started to deploy their
      equipment. Stone was shocked when he noticed the tunnel surface was
      not typical with any tunnel he had ever encountered. "You could drive
      a truck through that entrance. The rock wasn't chipped away like it
      would be with an air-hammer; it was like a shiny-black rock. When we
      shone our flash lights on it, it was smooth all the way around."
      The team started to move down the tunnel maintaining communication
      with their field radios. Shortly, the team noticed that their radios
      were going dead the further they moved into the tunnel. This prompted
      the team to deploy a 3-12-field telephone and run the wire back to a
      contact team at the tunnel entrance. The team kept running wire as
      they moved further into the tunnel.
      Sgt. Stone recalled: "As we got back one hundred metres or so, we
      started to noticed that our flash-lights were going dead and that our
      field radio was not working the way it should. We found a location
      where the telephone would work properly, which was about like if you
      would draw a line in the sand, if you were on the outside of the
      line, the telephone would work. If you stood inside of the line, it
      wouldn't work � nor did our flash-lights. Our flash-lights would just
      go dead on us. Anything electric would not work the way it was
      supposed to."
      Puzzled, the team noticed that they did not need their flash-lights �
      the tunnel seemed to possess a luminous of its own. The team left 3
      men to maintain the field telephone at this point. It was clear any
      communications would have to be made by having a man run back and
      relay the information to this team so they could in turn relay it
      back to the team at the entrance.
      The main team pressed further into the tunnel. The tunnel became
      brighter the further they moved forward. Stone felt he was in some
      science fiction setting. Things did not make sense. A complex of this
      size should have been noticed by reconnaissance. Even the removal of
      the enormous amount of rock should not have gone undetected.
      Shortly, the team came upon what looked like a big cavern. Stone
      recalled: "Stepping into that cavern was like stepping into a light
      bulb. You couldn't make out anything in the room. Even the soldiers
      with us looked like a dark silhouette." Stone thought if a fire fight
      was to break out he would not be able to distinguish between Charlie
      and his own team. Stone looked about the cavern telling the Colonel
      that he did not have a good feeling about this place. Stone felt a
      genuine fear expressing to the Colonel that Charlie could not have
      built this place. He further suggested that if the Colonel wanted to
      blow it up, that would be fine, but they should not be in this place.
      The Colonel stayed close to Stone as they moved around the area.
      Stone noticed a green luminous glow which looked to be fifteen inches
      to eighteen inches by three feet. Stone and the Colonel walked over
      to the glow and noticed a holographic image of what Stone considered
      to be dials, gauges and control buttons.
      As they looked at the control panel, the Colonel suggested that Sgt.
      Stone touch it. Stone used several expletives to point out what he
      thought of the Colonel's idea. Stone continued to look at the panel.
      He overcame his immediate fear and ran his hand through the luminous
      glow.
      The bright light in the cavern immediately reduced itself to a
      twilight setting allowing the team to see that they were standing in
      a huge cube. The light had seemed to be coming from the walls of the
      cube. They noticed a shiny black cigar-shaped craft with, Stone felt,
      were windows emanating an arc-welders type of beautiful blue light.
      The team looked around noticing what appeared to be human-organs --
      lungs, hearts, livers, skeletal structures -- encased in glass
      casings. Stone figured that they had stumbled into a biological
      laboratory of sorts. In close proximity to the glass vessels, the
      team noticed the cadavers of American service members, VC and, as
      Stone called them, `unearthly'. He said the unearthly beings were
      what most would term Grays, having the large heads and spindly bodies
      and arms. There were also other bodies which Stone could not say were
      of this earth. Although these cadavers had humanoid features, Stone
      could not catalogue them against anything he had ever encountered or
      read about in any intelligence reports.
      An Aside: The team found, what they thought were, glass test tubes.
      Stone was later to find out that if you were to fire at one of these
      test tubes, it would not break. In effect, they were on par with
      several inches of armor plating. He was further told it was not so
      much like glass but a modified acrylic polymer.
      As Stone continued to play with the control panel, the wall of the
      cavern next to the ship became clear. They could see out on the night
      sky but could not see any grass or earth. The team could also see
      troops outside moving about. It looked as though the troops were
      walking on thin air. They, however, were not aware of the team within
      the cavern.
      A runner was sent back to the 3-12 field telephone to ask the troops
      to stop and look to see if anything strange could be noticed. The
      troops were asked to perform different motions so the team within the
      mountain could reconcile which group of troops they were observing.
      Nervous laughter rippled through the team. The Colonel gave an order
      to carry all material that could be lifted, out of the cavern. Stone
      continued to play with the control panel. At one point Stone decided
      to attempt lifting the panel.
      The panel moved easily.
      Stone recalls: "The side that was open to the night sky, went out. A
      buzzing sound went off and thin red lights shot around the room. They
      were about the size of a number two lead in a pencil." Stone was hit
      in the eye with one of the beams. He screamed out in excruciating
      pain, spinning away from the light. As he turned falling, Stone could
      hear other screams and felt as though his back was on fire. From this
      point on Stone could not recall what happened inside the cavern.
      Stone regained consciousness outside the tunnel. He recalled being
      carried to a helicopter and flown to the 25th med-detachment. Stone
      recalls a doctor looking him over and telling the doctor that his
      right arm would not function properly. Sgt. Stone said his arm had
      significant spasms.
      The Colonel arrived and asked Stone to follow him to a hut after his
      eye was patched � Stone was introduced to another doctor. The Colonel
      then asked, "Do you recall anything that happened in the cavern?"
      Sgt. Stone was puzzled saying, "You were there with me, sir. You know
      what happened." "No," said the Colonel. "Do you recall anything of an
      alien presence being in the cavern? Any communications?" Sgt. Stone
      said all he could remember was being hit with the beam of light and
      feeling like his back was burning � like he had been hit with napalm.
      The Colonel then told Stone that the doctor was going to give him a
      shot to help him remember what had happened. Sgt. Stone protested
      saying, "It just happened, I remember everything. Didn't I just tell
      you everything that happened prior to me passing out?" Stone said the
      Colonel looked at him with a weird look saying, "Sergeant, you didn't
      pass out. There were other events that happened that are not coming
      through. We all were out. You were down. Let me explain to you that
      we need to know what happened during that forty-five minutes or so
      that you were away from us, you were still in the room, we were not
      there."
      Sgt. Stone did not like what he was hearing. He felt he was being
      used as a guinea pig. He felt something was wrong � that he felt he
      would have remembered if anything happened in there. Stone told the
      Colonel that if he remembered anything because of the shot, he did
      not want anything to be blocked � he wanted to know that happened.
      The Colonel agreed, saying, "Okay. But remember Sergeant, you can't
      prove anything. I'm going to tell you now that the events of this
      night never occurred. You are not to mention this
      Stone smiled asking, "What the hell service I am providing? All I'm
      doing is being there with you." The Colonel answered, "Oh no, you
      know more about this than even you know, you know."
      "To this day, "Stone confesses, "I still don't know what he meant by
      that statement."
      The doctor administered the shot. Within moments Stone recalled being
      hit by the beam once again. This time however, his memory continued.
      As Stone started to recall his voice became broken � he was fighting
      hard to keep his composure. With a sobbing voice he continued with
      fragmented statements, "I didn't pass out. I was in tremendous pain.
      You know, a lot of people know I have a fascination with grass
      hoppers. This is the incident that caused this. These creatures of
      humanoid shape started to appear. I can remember looking into their
      face." With a fear stricken voice he continued, "These were like big
      grass hoppers. I can remember going ahead and picking up my M-16. I
      was going to shoot. One of them grabbed my M-16 but I wouldn't let
      go. Then I heard a voice which I had heard many times before, even
      through childhood � I never wanted to bring this up, but it's going
      to be brought up in my life's story and it's got to be brought up
      now.
      One of the entities I have always known, I always called Kronos � as
      a matter of fact the first time an effort to try to smile and say you
      may call me Korona, and that's Korona with a K. � any how he went
      ahead and told me they had to take care of my eye or I'd lose it �
      that I'd lose all sight. But it would still be sore for a couple of
      days and that my people could go ahead and treat it with medications
      that they had available to them. Once again I was asked, like I was
      asked several other times before, `Why are you here? What are you
      doing, here? This is not your nature. You should not be involved in
      this � what they call a war.'
      That's all I could recall. I would still be drilled because the
      Colonel wanted to know what other exchanges were made. But when I
      came out from underneath the shot, I remembered vividly that contact
      but I remembered nothing else."
      When Stone was ready to leave, the Colonel transported Stone to a
      position outside his unit location and told Stone that if anyone
      asked, Stone was to say he was injured by an insect and the burns on
      his back were to be referred to as a sunburn.
      Stone remembered at that time a person could get an article fifteen
      or even a court-marshal for a sunburn. He said, "All they had to do
      was prove that you were trying to avoid duty." Stone did not consider
      himself a person to sluff-off and did not try avoiding his duty. His
      captain, Captain Pelton, demanded that Stone see a doctor about his
      eye. Stone ended up seeing the doctor who had first treated him. The
      doctor said, "I knew they would be sending you back over here." The
      doctor patched his eye providing a diagnosis suggesting that an
      insect had sprayed the eye causing the retina to be scratched. Stone
      returned to his unit.
      A few days later the Colonel asked Stone to meet with him in the NCO
      club. They met talking about the events of the recovery. The Colonel
      said that after that evening the incident would not be mentioned
      again. He told Stone that some troops from the 25th infantry and the
      1st calvary had been used around the area of the recovery. The troops
      were aware of some of the strange things brought out from the tunnel
      but were not directly involved in the bizarre things that Stone and
      the composite team had seen. The Colonel said that there was no way
      to cover up the burns on Stone or the injury to his eye, or the fact
      that the injuries had happened within the tunnel. The effective cover
      story, should it be required, was that they did in fact uncover an
      underground location that was brought about by elements of the 88th
      NVA Division � 347th NVA Brigade, in which they were working on a
      biological aspect of producing the bubonic plague to introduce to
      specific base camps in order to inflict biological casualties among
      the American forces along with South-Vietnamese forces.
      Stone told the Colonel he was still concerned about the bodies which
      he had seen inside the cavern. The colonel was reluctant to answer
      Stone's questions but he knew that Stone was extremely troubled by
      what he had seen. Stone feels the Colonel had a rare moment of
      compassion when he decided to give Stone some answers.
      The Colonel shared that some of the bodies and organs were synthetic.
      He went on to share that the bodies of the American service people
      were identified and that they had been killed by means of war and not
      by the visitors. The bodies had been sent to Hawaii where a military
      forensic unit had made these determinations.
      When they parted company that evening, Stone felt he had been given
      the truth by the Colonel. He still feels that to this day.


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    • Giuliano Marinkovic
      Wow, that is extracted from ex mailing list Sky Open that is unfortunately aborted and archive is destroyed - it can t be browsed anymore on yahoogroups. I
      Message 2 of 3 , Jan 31, 2009
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        Wow, that is extracted from ex mailing list "Sky Open" that is unfortunately
        aborted and archive is destroyed - it can't be browsed anymore on
        yahoogroups. I also have somewhere on my DVD's big archive of posts from
        Skyopen from 1999 to the last days.

        Too bad that the mailing list has been canceled.

        Best Wishes.

        Giuliano


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        Subject: [ufodiscussion] Clifford Stone

        (Note: Lost information finally found...my friend C. Stone...Enjoy...Dex)

        Subject:
        [SO] Black Virgin Mountain Recovery
        Date:
        Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:11:58 -0000
        From:
        "dexxxaa <dexxa@...>" <dexxa@...>
        To:
        Skyopen@yahoogroups.com



        Throughout his tenure Sgt. Clifford Stone was to do and learn things
        the Department of Defense would classify Top Secret. When he became
        the unit communications-specialist Nuclear-Biological-Chemical ?
        Communications ? Non Commissioned Officer in Charge ?
        (NBC/COMMO/NCIC), he signed an agreement ? Standard Agreement Form
        #4193 ? that would never permit him to share his experiences with
        anyone, not even his family. With the death of Sgt. Stone's son on
        Aug. 18/1995 he feared his family did not really know him. Grief
        stricken, Stone decided to make information which he would have
        otherwise taken to his grave, public. Stone's decision to do this is
        an effort to show his family why he could not tell them what he did;
        why military personnel would come late at night precipitating Stone's
        absence for weeks; why he could not always be there for his family;
        why he missed the ball games, graduations and birthdays. The material
        contained herein has been reviewed by Sgt. Stone prior to
        publication.
        In January of 1970 Stone arrived in Vietnam for what he considered
        would be a "plush" assignment. He was assigned to 277th SS (Special
        Services) battalion Headquarters-headquarters. Upon his arrival Stone
        decided to tell the First Sergeant that he could not type despite his
        file showing that he was a 71-Bravo (clerk-typist.) Having a deep
        sense of duty, Stone chose to put it all on the line by asking to be
        assigned to combat. Although his superior felt this was admirable and
        showed signs of being a good soldier, Stone's request was denied.
        Stone assumed his 8AM to 4PM-shift which left his evenings open to
        other pursuits. Stone reflects: "There was not a lot of night-life in
        Vietnam ? particularly in the base camp located only 7 miles from the
        Cambodian boarder ? and being young, and I guess foolish ? I felt I
        had to prove I was not afraid to face the enemy." Stone found himself
        sneaking out of camp in the evenings to encounter the enemy. One
        evening while Sgt. Stone was chatting with Sgt. Gaston, they noticed
        unusual red, green and blue lights dancing above and through the
        trees in the area of a rubber plantation owned by the Michelin Rubber
        Company. "The lights," reflects Stone, "were red, green, blue, self
        luminous and unusual."
        Stone left for that area the next evening in hope of determining the
        source of the lights. Upon arriving at the road which paralleled a
        section of the three-hundred metre kill-zone surrounding the camp,
        Stone heard someone say, "You're late. What kept you?"
        Stone spun in the direction of the voice raising his weapon. Stone
        could make out a familiar face. It was the face of the man Stone had
        come to know as "Colonel." Stone had met the Colonel on several
        previous recovery operations. He had always been the man in charge.
        "You're lucky I didn't shoot you," said Stone. The Colonel smiled
        saying, "I don't believe you're here to kill. I believe you would die
        for your country, and you might kill to protect others, but I don't
        believe you would kill to save yourself."
        The Colonel motioned towards three helicopters known as "Jolly-
        green's." Stone noted that they looked like the "Psy-opps" craft used
        for dropping propaganda leaflets. Stone followed the Colonel and
        entered one of the helicopters. Stone immediately noticed the
        equipment within the craft was not typical equipment. He recalled
        that it looked as though the chopper was equipped for electronic
        surveillance rather than for war.
        Stone turned to the Colonel and asked what he was doing there and why
        he (the Colonel) had him (Stone) flying with him. The Colonel
        said, "We have a situation here that we think you may be able to help
        with." [Double space] Stone concluded that his nocturnal forays from
        the camp had not gone unnoticed. "We uncovered a VC tunnel complex
        half way up the Black Virgin Mountain," the Colonel said.
        It was generally believed that the US-forces had the top of the
        mountain. This position was held by a special-forces communication
        center gathering information for the National Security Agency. The
        bottom of the mountain was also considered to be held by the US-
        forces. Everything between was thought to be held by Charlie.
        The choppers found a safe landing-zone touching down. Sgt. Stone was
        extremely concerned, thinking that Charlie was about to unload
        everything it had on the group. Curiously, nothing happened. The
        Colonel told Stone this was a dead zone and quite safe. "Dead zone,"
        though Sgt. Stone, "what did that, mean?"
        The group exited the craft making their way toward the opening of the
        alleged communist tunnel complex ? one hundred and fifty metres away.
        They encountered other friendly troops which were alleged to be
        combing the area for the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) and Vietcong
        (VC) who were known to be in the area. They were told by these troops
        that they would remain in touch with Stone and his group because
        Charlie was known to have many entrances and exits in their tunnel
        systems.
        Stone and the team entered the tunnel and started to deploy their
        equipment. Stone was shocked when he noticed the tunnel surface was
        not typical with any tunnel he had ever encountered. "You could drive
        a truck through that entrance. The rock wasn't chipped away like it
        would be with an air-hammer; it was like a shiny-black rock. When we
        shone our flash lights on it, it was smooth all the way around."
        The team started to move down the tunnel maintaining communication
        with their field radios. Shortly, the team noticed that their radios
        were going dead the further they moved into the tunnel. This prompted
        the team to deploy a 3-12-field telephone and run the wire back to a
        contact team at the tunnel entrance. The team kept running wire as
        they moved further into the tunnel.
        Sgt. Stone recalled: "As we got back one hundred metres or so, we
        started to noticed that our flash-lights were going dead and that our
        field radio was not working the way it should. We found a location
        where the telephone would work properly, which was about like if you
        would draw a line in the sand, if you were on the outside of the
        line, the telephone would work. If you stood inside of the line, it
        wouldn't work ? nor did our flash-lights. Our flash-lights would just
        go dead on us. Anything electric would not work the way it was
        supposed to."
        Puzzled, the team noticed that they did not need their flash-lights ?
        the tunnel seemed to possess a luminous of its own. The team left 3
        men to maintain the field telephone at this point. It was clear any
        communications would have to be made by having a man run back and
        relay the information to this team so they could in turn relay it
        back to the team at the entrance.
        The main team pressed further into the tunnel. The tunnel became
        brighter the further they moved forward. Stone felt he was in some
        science fiction setting. Things did not make sense. A complex of this
        size should have been noticed by reconnaissance. Even the removal of
        the enormous amount of rock should not have gone undetected.
        Shortly, the team came upon what looked like a big cavern. Stone
        recalled: "Stepping into that cavern was like stepping into a light
        bulb. You couldn't make out anything in the room. Even the soldiers
        with us looked like a dark silhouette." Stone thought if a fire fight
        was to break out he would not be able to distinguish between Charlie
        and his own team. Stone looked about the cavern telling the Colonel
        that he did not have a good feeling about this place. Stone felt a
        genuine fear expressing to the Colonel that Charlie could not have
        built this place. He further suggested that if the Colonel wanted to
        blow it up, that would be fine, but they should not be in this place.
        The Colonel stayed close to Stone as they moved around the area.
        Stone noticed a green luminous glow which looked to be fifteen inches
        to eighteen inches by three feet. Stone and the Colonel walked over
        to the glow and noticed a holographic image of what Stone considered
        to be dials, gauges and control buttons.
        As they looked at the control panel, the Colonel suggested that Sgt.
        Stone touch it. Stone used several expletives to point out what he
        thought of the Colonel's idea. Stone continued to look at the panel.
        He overcame his immediate fear and ran his hand through the luminous
        glow.
        The bright light in the cavern immediately reduced itself to a
        twilight setting allowing the team to see that they were standing in
        a huge cube. The light had seemed to be coming from the walls of the
        cube. They noticed a shiny black cigar-shaped craft with, Stone felt,
        were windows emanating an arc-welders type of beautiful blue light.
        The team looked around noticing what appeared to be human-organs --
        lungs, hearts, livers, skeletal structures -- encased in glass
        casings. Stone figured that they had stumbled into a biological
        laboratory of sorts. In close proximity to the glass vessels, the
        team noticed the cadavers of American service members, VC and, as
        Stone called them, `unearthly'. He said the unearthly beings were
        what most would term Grays, having the large heads and spindly bodies
        and arms. There were also other bodies which Stone could not say were
        of this earth. Although these cadavers had humanoid features, Stone
        could not catalogue them against anything he had ever encountered or
        read about in any intelligence reports.
        An Aside: The team found, what they thought were, glass test tubes.
        Stone was later to find out that if you were to fire at one of these
        test tubes, it would not break. In effect, they were on par with
        several inches of armor plating. He was further told it was not so
        much like glass but a modified acrylic polymer.
        As Stone continued to play with the control panel, the wall of the
        cavern next to the ship became clear. They could see out on the night
        sky but could not see any grass or earth. The team could also see
        troops outside moving about. It looked as though the troops were
        walking on thin air. They, however, were not aware of the team within
        the cavern.
        A runner was sent back to the 3-12 field telephone to ask the troops
        to stop and look to see if anything strange could be noticed. The
        troops were asked to perform different motions so the team within the
        mountain could reconcile which group of troops they were observing.
        Nervous laughter rippled through the team. The Colonel gave an order
        to carry all material that could be lifted, out of the cavern. Stone
        continued to play with the control panel. At one point Stone decided
        to attempt lifting the panel.
        The panel moved easily.
        Stone recalls: "The side that was open to the night sky, went out. A
        buzzing sound went off and thin red lights shot around the room. They
        were about the size of a number two lead in a pencil." Stone was hit
        in the eye with one of the beams. He screamed out in excruciating
        pain, spinning away from the light. As he turned falling, Stone could
        hear other screams and felt as though his back was on fire. From this
        point on Stone could not recall what happened inside the cavern.
        Stone regained consciousness outside the tunnel. He recalled being
        carried to a helicopter and flown to the 25th med-detachment. Stone
        recalls a doctor looking him over and telling the doctor that his
        right arm would not function properly. Sgt. Stone said his arm had
        significant spasms.
        The Colonel arrived and asked Stone to follow him to a hut after his
        eye was patched ? Stone was introduced to another doctor. The Colonel
        then asked, "Do you recall anything that happened in the cavern?"
        Sgt. Stone was puzzled saying, "You were there with me, sir. You know
        what happened." "No," said the Colonel. "Do you recall anything of an
        alien presence being in the cavern? Any communications?" Sgt. Stone
        said all he could remember was being hit with the beam of light and
        feeling like his back was burning ? like he had been hit with napalm.
        The Colonel then told Stone that the doctor was going to give him a
        shot to help him remember what had happened. Sgt. Stone protested
        saying, "It just happened, I remember everything. Didn't I just tell
        you everything that happened prior to me passing out?" Stone said the
        Colonel looked at him with a weird look saying, "Sergeant, you didn't
        pass out. There were other events that happened that are not coming
        through. We all were out. You were down. Let me explain to you that
        we need to know what happened during that forty-five minutes or so
        that you were away from us, you were still in the room, we were not
        there."
        Sgt. Stone did not like what he was hearing. He felt he was being
        used as a guinea pig. He felt something was wrong ? that he felt he
        would have remembered if anything happened in there. Stone told the
        Colonel that if he remembered anything because of the shot, he did
        not want anything to be blocked ? he wanted to know that happened.
        The Colonel agreed, saying, "Okay. But remember Sergeant, you can't
        prove anything. I'm going to tell you now that the events of this
        night never occurred. You are not to mention this
        Stone smiled asking, "What the hell service I am providing? All I'm
        doing is being there with you." The Colonel answered, "Oh no, you
        know more about this than even you know, you know."
        "To this day, "Stone confesses, "I still don't know what he meant by
        that statement."
        The doctor administered the shot. Within moments Stone recalled being
        hit by the beam once again. This time however, his memory continued.
        As Stone started to recall his voice became broken ? he was fighting
        hard to keep his composure. With a sobbing voice he continued with
        fragmented statements, "I didn't pass out. I was in tremendous pain.
        You know, a lot of people know I have a fascination with grass
        hoppers. This is the incident that caused this. These creatures of
        humanoid shape started to appear. I can remember looking into their
        face." With a fear stricken voice he continued, "These were like big
        grass hoppers. I can remember going ahead and picking up my M-16. I
        was going to shoot. One of them grabbed my M-16 but I wouldn't let
        go. Then I heard a voice which I had heard many times before, even
        through childhood ? I never wanted to bring this up, but it's going
        to be brought up in my life's story and it's got to be brought up
        now.
        One of the entities I have always known, I always called Kronos ? as
        a matter of fact the first time an effort to try to smile and say you
        may call me Korona, and that's Korona with a K. ? any how he went
        ahead and told me they had to take care of my eye or I'd lose it ?
        that I'd lose all sight. But it would still be sore for a couple of
        days and that my people could go ahead and treat it with medications
        that they had available to them. Once again I was asked, like I was
        asked several other times before, `Why are you here? What are you
        doing, here? This is not your nature. You should not be involved in
        this ? what they call a war.'
        That's all I could recall. I would still be drilled because the
        Colonel wanted to know what other exchanges were made. But when I
        came out from underneath the shot, I remembered vividly that contact
        but I remembered nothing else."
        When Stone was ready to leave, the Colonel transported Stone to a
        position outside his unit location and told Stone that if anyone
        asked, Stone was to say he was injured by an insect and the burns on
        his back were to be referred to as a sunburn.
        Stone remembered at that time a person could get an article fifteen
        or even a court-marshal for a sunburn. He said, "All they had to do
        was prove that you were trying to avoid duty." Stone did not consider
        himself a person to sluff-off and did not try avoiding his duty. His
        captain, Captain Pelton, demanded that Stone see a doctor about his
        eye. Stone ended up seeing the doctor who had first treated him. The
        doctor said, "I knew they would be sending you back over here." The
        doctor patched his eye providing a diagnosis suggesting that an
        insect had sprayed the eye causing the retina to be scratched. Stone
        returned to his unit.
        A few days later the Colonel asked Stone to meet with him in the NCO
        club. They met talking about the events of the recovery. The Colonel
        said that after that evening the incident would not be mentioned
        again. He told Stone that some troops from the 25th infantry and the
        1st calvary had been used around the area of the recovery. The troops
        were aware of some of the strange things brought out from the tunnel
        but were not directly involved in the bizarre things that Stone and
        the composite team had seen. The Colonel said that there was no way
        to cover up the burns on Stone or the injury to his eye, or the fact
        that the injuries had happened within the tunnel. The effective cover
        story, should it be required, was that they did in fact uncover an
        underground location that was brought about by elements of the 88th
        NVA Division ? 347th NVA Brigade, in which they were working on a
        biological aspect of producing the bubonic plague to introduce to
        specific base camps in order to inflict biological casualties among
        the American forces along with South-Vietnamese forces.
        Stone told the Colonel he was still concerned about the bodies which
        he had seen inside the cavern. The colonel was reluctant to answer
        Stone's questions but he knew that Stone was extremely troubled by
        what he had seen. Stone feels the Colonel had a rare moment of
        compassion when he decided to give Stone some answers.
        The Colonel shared that some of the bodies and organs were synthetic.
        He went on to share that the bodies of the American service people
        were identified and that they had been killed by means of war and not
        by the visitors. The bodies had been sent to Hawaii where a military
        forensic unit had made these determinations.
        When they parted company that evening, Stone felt he had been given
        the truth by the Colonel. He still feels that to this day.


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        O F T H E D R A G O N S L A I R In the Spring of 1989, UFO UNIVERSE published an article by Robert W. Boyajian, titled CONQUEST EARTH? - A SHOCKING LOOK
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          In the Spring of 1989, UFO UNIVERSE published an article by Robert W. Boyajian, titled 'CONQUEST EARTH? - A SHOCKING LOOK INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT-ALIEN EXCHANGE PROGRAM' (Exclusive Interview with Sergeant Clifford Stone, on assignment at Roswell, New Mexico):
          "In the course of my UFO investigations, I established contact with Aileen Edwards, Director of the UFO Contact Center International, Seattle, Washington. For several years, Aileen has been doing excellent work getting people released from mental institutions that do not understand the UFO contact or abduction phenomenon. Many of these unfortunate patients have been given dangerous neurolytic drugs as means of 'treating' their 'illness.'
          "As a result of our conversations, Aileen placed me in touch with Sergeant Clifford Earl Stone of the United States Army, who is currently stationed at Roswell, New Mexico, which is near the site of the most famous crash-UFO case of all time which allegedly took place in 1947, and involved the recovery of several alien bodies by the military.
          "What I have found out by speaking with Sergeant Stone can only be labeled 'sensational.' But before we get to the main body of our interview, I should point out that much of his testimony can now be verified by others connected with the intelligence community. For example, recently there was aired on national television a two hour special, 'UFO COVERUP - LIVE FROM WASHINGTON.' Among the most interesting features of this program were the on-the-air confessions of two mysterious individuals whose true identities remain a secret, but who go by the code names 'Falcon' and 'Condor.' Their faces were hidden at all times, and their voices altered through a muting device. From what I have discovered, however, Falcon is an OSI agent, while Condor is a scientist working for the U.S. government.
          "On the show, Condor told of a deal the government made with the aliens: 'Essentially, the agreement says that we won't disclose your existence if you won't interfere in our society, and we allow you to operate from a designated base in the United States.' It's in the state of Nevada, in an area called Area 51. Extraterrestrials have complete control of the base. My understanding is that three different aliens of the same species has resided in the U.S. from 1948 or 1949 until the present day. The first alien was captured in the New Mexican desert after its craft crashed. The alien, which was named EBE by the government was kept in captivity for three years and we learned a great deal of information about the alien's race, culture and spacecraft. The second alien was part of an exchange program. The third alien was also part of an exchange program and has been the guest of the U.S. government since 1982.'
          "...this knowledge has long been classified at exceedingly high levels, and has not been released even though various court battles have been fought to obtain the truth under the Freedom of Information Act. The much talked-about MJ-12 briefing document was a 'leak' made by sources unknown, there have been several others, and yet further revelations have been promised by those working inside the 'establishment' who are convinced the public must be told EVERYTHING and NOW!..."


          The interview between Mr. Boyajion of UFO UNIVERSE and Sgt. Stone went as follows:
          "UFO UNIVERSE: In reference to Condor's statement about Area 51 in the state of Nevada, what do you personally feel about this in your studies?
          "CLIFFORD STONE: I believe that the American people has a right to know what is going on...
          "UU: Do you feel there's a war going on perhaps between different types of aliens?
          "CS: Yes, I do. I believe what is presently termed the 'greys' may very well be the (entities) that the U.S. government has the pact with right now, and they are not necessarily the 'good guys.'
          "UU: Do you feel that these grey guys are evil?
          "CS: Well...there are some things I prefer not to talk about. But I'll tell you this much. First, I believe that there is a God. And I firmly believe that God made man and all intelligent life to be a free agent, to chose HIS own validity. Abductions are REAL. Abductions are taking place. People are being forced to undergo - partake in various experiments - for whatever reason by our alien visitors.
          "UU: What else would give you the impression that these guys are evil, cut and dry? Is there a case you can cite?
          "CS: O.K., this is supposition. One gentleman who was doing research into it reported a military intrusion on an alien base, right here in New Mexico. Well, the military tried to go in and take over the base (It was mentioned that a similar event took place in Nevada). Sixty-six servicemen were supposedly killed there. The aliens had the base, it was an underground base and allegedly the military sent in some of their elite forces, probably equated to a Delta force, elite, anti-terrorist force, if you wish.
          "UU: How did they find this base?
          "CS: Well, it was part of the allegedly secret agreement that we would let them have bases, therefore we knew about the base. There was some type of argument that broke out between our people and the aliens.
          "UU: So there are many bases throughout the country?
          "CS: There are rumors of many bases. Given that these stories are true, I think that they probably have 12 or fewer bases. The greys may have various, let's say, hideouts. As far as actual full scale operational bases, there's probably 12 or fewer.
          "UU: And where are you getting your information?
          "CS: From, we'll say, other researchers that wish to remain sort of silent.
          "UU: What position are you in the army at present?
          "CS: I'm in an ROTC assignment.
          "UU: How long have you been in the army?
          "CS: Twenty years.
          "UU: Your friends who remain anonymous are within the different services of the government I take it?
          "CS: Well, for example, I was stationed at an Air Force base and one guy went and came to my home and identified himself as a fighter pilot and told me about an aircraft that he was piloting. I believe it was over the Pacific Ocean. Anyhow, it got real dark all of a sudden. He reported looking up and he and the other crew members saw what they described as a vehicle that was 3 miles long (Three miles in a circular expansion). As far as I know it stayed with them for 15 or 20 minutes and then went straight over the aircraft and got out in front of them and shot straight up, out of sight.
          "UU: Where did you derive the idea that our government is making deals with aliens? What gave you this type of notion?
          "CS: The Snowbird document. This document refers to us making primitive contact with the aliens in 1959. On April 25, 1964, we managed to carry on a 3 hour conversation which was the onset of the agreement at a base here in New Mexico. I believe that base was Holloman Air Force Base. The agreement involving an exchange of technology and our silence. By going ahead and not having any interference with the aliens, in exchange they gave us the technology and we agreed to keep quiet about their presence. That right there is sinister in itself.
          "UU: How do you mean sinister in itself?
          "CS: We have to go back to the abductions. For some reason they don't want the people to remember what happened. Well here you have people who had contact with alien beings, who have lost everything. They've went ahead and have family problems, they've lost their jobs, a lot of them have become reclusive, they have mental problems because they can't cope with what happened to them. They know that they've had some type of experience, but a lot of the time they would have nightmares. They can't explain these.
          "UU: Because it was repressed in their subconscious?
          "CS: Correct. Maybe by design, or it may be just because the body's own self-defensive mechanism is trying to cope with something that is beyond it's comprehension...
          "UU: What about the benevolent beings that are said to exist, who abide by higher laws that do not allow them to interfere - aren't they trying to help?
          "CS: The good guys are, well, I like to refer to them as being nomadic. What you're talking about, about the non-intervention with other intelligent life forms is a universal law. The nomadics go along with that. The greys violated the universal law.
          "UU: What else can you say about the benevolent space beings?
          "CS: They have a high regard for life. I believe, shall we say, 'the good forces,' they don't really want any interaction with us. They choose to just go ahead and just observe.
          "UU: Silent guardians. So it seems what they're trying to do is balance what the greys imbalanced.
          "CS: I would agree with that...
          "UU: When you were describing that there are approximately 3 different types of hostile aliens from Zeta Reticuli, would you describe further what you mean by that?
          "CS: At present time, I believe that the government has identified several groups. We break these down by EBE (extraterrestrial biological entities) type 1,2,3 - I think we are about up to 7 that have been identified (however, as Lear and others indicate, these seem to fall into either the reptilian or human categories - Branton). Well...seven types of space travelers, or inter-dimensional travelers, if you wish. When I refer to inter- dimensional travel, I am referring, utilizing the Einsteinian, Rosen, Bridges for that travel... I'm going to tell you the situation as I understand now. The greys will eventually come forth and try to state that they created Christ. This is not the case. They did not create Christ. Christ was and is a divine entity. He was sent here by the Creator, not the Creator of just the world, but the universe... I believe that they (the greys) are involved with the actual cattle mutilations. Now there are some copycats, and the government tries to get mileage off the copycats, and the government may have even went ahead and staged some - just to throw off the extraterrestrial connection.
          "UU: Can you give more detail... regarding the greys, the subtleties ahead, and how to avoid any mishap?
          "CS: You mean how to identify if your working with a good guy or bad guy? For one thing there are the religious (activities) the bad guys are not happy with. For example, there was an instance where they tried to pick up a farmer...he started to pray and they couldn't take him aboard the craft... He kept praying and finally they gave up trying to abduct him. There was also an incident in Vietnam where a UFO set down in a field. It terrorized some of the villagers, and there was a soldier who was out visiting his girlfriend, who would later become his wife. Anyhow, he got tied up there and the UFO was trying to convince some of the people they should go. It wanted to take some of the people. The soldier stood his ground and wouldn't let the entities do it. The M16 that the soldier had was impervious to the aliens, but the cross that he always wore, and he always carried a Bible, they had regard for that. Finally, they gave up and decided not to try to take any of the people...

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