Re: [ufodiscussion] 'Amnesty'
I think Dondep is quite right. The bunch of people involved in
Majestic-12's operations cannot give themselves global immunity from
criminal prosecution because they simply do not have the authority to do
that. To presume to have that authority, as they appear to have done,
demonstrates to my eyes how arrogant and pretentious they really are.
Evidently these people do not want to have to respect the ethical laws of
the world community and think they should be allowed to be a law unto
themselves, while at the same time representing the world community in its
dealings with ETs. In effect they appear to be telling everyone, "Just hand
over the world entirely to our care to do with as we see fit and don't ask
us to account for anything that we do with it." That seems to me to be the
unspoken proposition which is implicit in their claim to global immunity
and which I think we would have to be out of our minds to accept.
We seem to be confronted here with a clandestine agency of the US
government, which officially does not exist and whose existence is therefore
illegitimate even in the USA, seeking to legitimise itself on a global
scale. And all in one fell swoop too, by simply declaring its global
immunity to all and any of mankind's laws as an act of fiat. To call this
attempt "misguided" would probably be the understatement of the millennium.
It is an attempt to give themselves an elite world status that could be used
at any time in future to foist an arbitrary, unaccountable dictatorship
upon the whole globe and everywhere off-world that humanity might go. It is
a blatant bid for unconditional totalitarian rule. It is thus an emphatic,
in-your-face reassertion of the rules of the ages-old game of power-politics
that have brought the world into its present precarious condition. And
these same people apparently think that by doing this they will be
installing a New Age of Light! They are plainly delusional and instead of
being given global immunity from prosecution I think they should be
incarcerated in asylums for the criminally insane, where they will receive
the psychological care that they evidently need and will be prevented from
endangering the world any further.
Of course it is an open question as to what specific crimes they are
wanting to have global immunity to prosecution for. Assassination?
Torture? Kidnapping? Libel, slander and character-assassination? Public
deception and misinformation? Interference in the course of justice?
Misappropriation of public moneys? Drug-running and racketeering?
Kidnapping and false-imprisonment? Infringement of citizens' rights and
international treaties? Conspiracy with others to commit all of the
foregoing? The list of potential indictments seems serious enough to make a
Mafia Godfather's seem trivial by comparison. And these are just the crimes
which they could have committed already - crimes which could have resulted
in the traumatisation of many people and the ruin of many lives. What might
they do if they are granted the global immunity from prosecution to which
they are laying claim?
Amnesty is a separate question to that of unconditional global
immunity of course. Amnesty may be given for crimes which have already been
committed, but it is a one-off affair that does not grant any right to the
perpetrators to repeat their crimes, which is what the post-Majestic
declaration appears to claim for the possible perpetrators here. However, I
do not think that granting an amnesty would do any good either unless it was
made conditional upon the whole black project community being brought out
completely into the open and brought back under the legitimate
constitutional rule of the official governments of this world. Otherwise
all the old games would simply start up again and it would just be a
question of time before we were right back at square one with weird things
happening all over the place, spooks coming out of every corner and no-one
able to find out what the hell is really going on.
But can anyone seriously think that the shadow world would do that
voluntarily? I think it is more realistic to expect them to have to be
dragged kicking and screaming into the open, public light day. They do not
want amnesty. What they want is the unconditional right to go about what
they see as their business without interference or oversight or control by
anyone else. This is what their declaration of global immunity and
privilege declares in no uncertain terms. They have expressed no intention
to account for their past deeds, nor to offer restitution to anyone who they
may have offended, nor to seek reconciliation with the possible victims of
their crimes. I can predict with confidence that if we grant them amnesty
they will not even say "Thank you" and will just try to persuade us all that
they never committed any crimes in the first place. And the cover-up and
the disinformation will go on uninterrupted.
We are dealing with a deeply rooted collective human problem here.
I'm afraid there can be no quick get-outs and easy solutions that do not
cost anyone anything. It is a situation that has been nurtured and
cultivated by our culture over centuries of popular blind eye-turning to
official corruption and misdemeanours. We have bred a monster in the form
of the secret black projects community and now it is preparing to begin its
rampage by rattling the rusted bars of the decrepit legal cage that still
just about contains it. If the free world is going to stay free, I think it
is going to have to deal with this entity like it would deal with an unruly
adolescent who thinks he should have the right to do as he pleases in the
world without being answerable to anyone and reckless of the costs and
injuries that he may inflict on them in his thoughtlessness too. Such an
adolescent needs to be shown that he is subject to the law like everyone
else and I think this is what the black project community needs to be shown
too for everyone's well-being and security.
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Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:50 AM
Subject: [ufodiscussion] 'Amnesty'
If T-9 was real and in favor of protecting mankind...Thank you Committees,
especially for finally wising up.
I'm glad you used the word "IF", Dex. One thing we DO NOT hear when we hear
of the T-9 is the treaty we had/have with the OTHER group of ETs/aliens -
the alleged OF-9 Treaty. This is a critical issue, because by not even
mentioning it we are assuming that the so-called "Tau-9" treaty is the ONLY
treaty that Majestic was ever a party to.
One of the clauses in the (so-called) "OF-9" treaty is the agreement that no
single nation can unilaterally declare 'Disclosure' without ALL governments
agreeing to do so. SNEDs slipped in some boiler-plate from a
seemingly-innocuous Resolution about 'nuclear proliferation' made by the
Security Council during an April 2004 session, then claimed that in a secret
meeting following that session, certain provisions of immunity for MJ-12
made at that secret session for ratification by the Tau-9 the following
month would go into effect once certain celestial phenomena occurred. Said
who?? You can't sign treaty clauses like that without the membership of a
nation being aware of what's being agreed to on their behalf.
Think about that for a minute. MJ-12 arranges to have themselves immunized
from prosecution for their own criminal behavior, as if they had the
legitimacy to do either! THIS is one of the primary reasons why we can't
have these criminal elitists making decisions under the guise of "discussion
groups" at their various conclaves called the "CFR", the "Trilateral
Commission", the "Bilderberg Group", and their playground known as the
"Bohemian Grove". They simply don't have the right, no matter how often they
repeat the lie.
So; the 'good' ETs/aliens, Dex, are more than likely NOT parties to the
"T-9". If they can declare that Dan "successfully completed his mission of
informing the public of the 'truth of the extraterrestrial presence' by
September of 2006 (one year ago)", then I'll be a monkey's uncle. I probably
The key word I believe is 'amnesty'.
If you want disclosure, and if you want it from them, they'll have to be
There isn't any other way around this.