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  • shane eden
    Thank you, Regan. It s always a relief to see when someone is noticing. Now to get the other 10 million....................................................LOL,
    Message 1 of 11 , Oct 1, 2007
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      Thank you, Regan. It's always a relief to see when someone is noticing. Now
      to get the other 10
      million....................................................LOL, Shane.



      :oP





      >From: <masanga@...>
      >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0100
      >
      > Good luck on your efforts, Shane. It is good to see someone doing
      >something positive.
      >
      > Regan
      >
      >
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: shane eden
      >To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      >Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:15 PM
      >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      >
      >
      >Helloooooooooooo Regan & Dex & everyone,
      >At the risk of sounding redundant,
      >my world tour (www.worldfreedomtourinfo.com) is one answer to the problem
      >of
      >how to interest the people in finding out what the problems are, and
      >working
      >on remedies. Ignore-ance seems to be an earthly trait, but once the mass
      >population realizes that we are all connected, that we have common enemies,
      >that we have common aspirations, that in fact all the answers are right
      >here
      >right now, that only then can we begin traveling in the right direction
      >(upward & onward). We cannot get bogged down in our own narrow
      >paradigm......only an open door allows movement. Think of how quickly a
      >daily worldwide audience will bring awareness to the UFO question (and all
      >others) and think of how pleased our 'watchers" will be to see we have
      >finally begun to start really working together for the good of mankind. As
      >our friend Bill has reminded us, the truth will set us free. If we will
      >just
      >look at it.
      >Peace, Shane.
      >
      >:(
      >
      > >From: <masanga@...>
      > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      > >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:38:29 +0100
      > >
      > > Dex,
      > >
      > > I know what you mean; I miss them too. But I think this is a bit
      > >like grown up children missing their deceased parents really. The benign
      > >space beings and the contactees of the last century gave us something
      >that
      > >we needed then and we may love them for it, but now we need to move on
      > >without their help so as to complete our present phase of development.
      >Our
      > >needs are different nowadays and those beings could not really help us
      >with
      > >them even if they were still around in the external world anyway (they
      >are
      > >still very much with us in spirit, on the inner-planes, of course). I
      > >think
      > >humanity is going through the difficult adolescant phase of its
      >development
      > >now, when it has to learn the vital skills of ego self-management that it
      > >needs to support its freedom and independence in the wider cosmic
      >society.
      > >Put simply, we are having to do a lot of growing up fast in preparation
      >for
      > >cosmic citizenship. But we are not ripe for that yet.
      > >
      > > I think this transition is particularly difficult for us because
      > >we
      > >have inherited a world culture that is opposed to our making it and which
      > >is
      > >trying to take us all back to what is for us a more primitive, lawless
      >and
      > >barbaric age that the world was last in about 12 thousand years ago. It
      > >was
      > >the age of the god-kings and goddess queens, when all power and wealth
      >was
      > >centralised in the hands of the sovereign, who was held to be the
      > >representative of heaven on earth. Today's nation-states have no such
      > >sovereigns (except in name, in some cases) and the rise of the Bush-junta
      > >in
      > >the modern USA can be viewed as an attempt to re-establish a centre of
      >such
      > >absolute sovereignty on earth. There are deep and numerous historical
      > >reasons for this happening which I will not go into right now. But we may
      > >see that it is a reactionary, retrogade step which must have painful
      > >consequences for everyone in the end. It is as if a bunch of fear-ridden
      > >leaders of the human pack have come to the unanimous agreement that
      >mature
      > >freedom and self-responsible adulthood is a very bad thing for human
      >beings
      > >to have really and that the only safe and sensible thing to do is to turn
      > >all our biological clocks back to their beginnings and start all over
      >again
      > >from babyhood, so as to build up a new world civilization over which they
      > >can exercise total, absolute control via technology.
      > >
      > > I think the solution to our world's problem, which the neocons and
      > >their cohorts in other countries have escalated into a crisis of world
      > >survival, lies in our ability to co-create a new world culture and
      > >civilization that is based on a decentralised model of social and
      >political
      > >organisation. We already have the technology that can facilitate it and
      > >enable it to work. What we do not have - at least, not in the public
      > >domain - is a well-thought out design for a thoroughly decentralised
      >world
      > >civilization and culture that could replace the reactionary, obsolete one
      > >which the neocons are currently installing and cementing into place. They
      > >want a new feudal world empire with them at the top of it and that is
      >what
      > >they are building. If it is not what we-the-people want too then
      >evidently
      > >it is down to us to create an alternative option that we prefer and go
      >for
      > >it. At some point in the game, I think maturing out of adolescance and
      > >into
      > >adulthood means assuming responsibility for creating our own reality to
      > >live
      > >in. It is what the neocons say they are doing so they cannot blame us for
      > >following their example and doing it too.
      > >
      > > But this is something that I believe we have to do by ourselves
      > >and
      > >without any material help from ETs, no matter how benign they may be,
      > >because it is fundamentally a matter of us as a large group (some 6
      >billion
      > >strong and counting) making our own free choices and decisions about our
      > >own
      > >evolutionary destiny. ETs cannot do our growing up for us and nor would
      > >the
      > >more mature ones want to, I think. I suspect that this is the basic
      >reason
      > >for their having quit centre-stage and are now watching from the wings.
      > >
      > > Regan
      > >
      > >
      > >----- Original Message -----
      > >From: Dex
      > >To: UFOdiscussion
      > >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:38 PM
      > >Subject: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      > >
      > >
      > >Bill,
      > >Even though I can't 'substantiate' this, I'd like to say I know how you
      > >feel.
      > >
      > >Regan
      > >
      > >I have been feeling burnt about all the negative stuff in the world and
      >the
      > >depressing interference from both the Intelligence communities and the
      > >opposing disclosure ET factions.
      > >Our Adamic specie is more my resonance. Boy! Do I miss those days.
      > >Lucky Bill, he had the privilege of meeting some of the very special feel
      > >good people that obviously, space folks shared a common interest in them
      > >too.
      > >
      > >I keep asking for more of their personal positive energy interjection.
      >The
      > >Contacts. I miss their guiding messages of common sense and ideas for how
      > >we
      > >can to do things a better way.
      > >I hope it's still permitted these other world medical groups can continue
      > >assisting us.
      > >A compassion and concern I can relate too.
      > >
      > >Dex
      >
      >
      >
      >Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
    • Karin
      ... Hi Regan! And Dex :-) There IS still one of the ol time Contactees around, healthy and still as bright and sharp as you could wish: Ida Kannenberg. I ve
      Message 2 of 11 , Oct 1, 2007
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        >ETs cannot do our growing up for us and nor would the
        > more mature ones want to, I think. I suspect that this is the basic
        > reason
        > for their having quit centre-stage and are now watching from the wings.

        Hi Regan! And Dex :-)

        There IS still one of the ol' time Contactees around, healthy and still as
        bright and sharp as you could wish: Ida Kannenberg. I've just published a
        collection of her essays : Time Travelers From Atlantis.

        Ida's still taking telepathic dictation from some very interesting and
        knowledgeable characters. Through reading and studying everything she has
        written, I've become her number one fan. I've learned so much from her, and
        it's benefited my own personal growth a great deal. She's the real deal.

        We also publish her workbook for Experiencers: How To Come To Terms With
        Your UFO/Alien Contact.

        Both are at Amazon.

        Best,
        Karin Holloway
        www.experiencers.net





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      • Ted
        Got your message , but we were at the casino. I ll try today ... From: shane eden To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:39 AM
        Message 3 of 11 , Oct 1, 2007
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          Got your message , but we were at the casino. I'll try today
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: shane eden
          To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:39 AM
          Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited


          Thank you, Regan. It's always a relief to see when someone is noticing. Now
          to get the other 10
          million....................................................LOL, Shane.

          :oP

          >From: <masanga@...>
          >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
          >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
          >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
          >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0100
          >
          > Good luck on your efforts, Shane. It is good to see someone doing
          >something positive.
          >
          > Regan
          >
          >
          >----- Original Message -----
          >From: shane eden
          >To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
          >Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:15 PM
          >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
          >
          >
          >Helloooooooooooo Regan & Dex & everyone,
          >At the risk of sounding redundant,
          >my world tour (www.worldfreedomtourinfo.com) is one answer to the problem
          >of
          >how to interest the people in finding out what the problems are, and
          >working
          >on remedies. Ignore-ance seems to be an earthly trait, but once the mass
          >population realizes that we are all connected, that we have common enemies,
          >that we have common aspirations, that in fact all the answers are right
          >here
          >right now, that only then can we begin traveling in the right direction
          >(upward & onward). We cannot get bogged down in our own narrow
          >paradigm......only an open door allows movement. Think of how quickly a
          >daily worldwide audience will bring awareness to the UFO question (and all
          >others) and think of how pleased our 'watchers" will be to see we have
          >finally begun to start really working together for the good of mankind. As
          >our friend Bill has reminded us, the truth will set us free. If we will
          >just
          >look at it.
          >Peace, Shane.
          >
          >:(
          >
          > >From: <masanga@...>
          > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
          > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
          > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
          > >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:38:29 +0100
          > >
          > > Dex,
          > >
          > > I know what you mean; I miss them too. But I think this is a bit
          > >like grown up children missing their deceased parents really. The benign
          > >space beings and the contactees of the last century gave us something
          >that
          > >we needed then and we may love them for it, but now we need to move on
          > >without their help so as to complete our present phase of development.
          >Our
          > >needs are different nowadays and those beings could not really help us
          >with
          > >them even if they were still around in the external world anyway (they
          >are
          > >still very much with us in spirit, on the inner-planes, of course). I
          > >think
          > >humanity is going through the difficult adolescant phase of its
          >development
          > >now, when it has to learn the vital skills of ego self-management that it
          > >needs to support its freedom and independence in the wider cosmic
          >society.
          > >Put simply, we are having to do a lot of growing up fast in preparation
          >for
          > >cosmic citizenship. But we are not ripe for that yet.
          > >
          > > I think this transition is particularly difficult for us because
          > >we
          > >have inherited a world culture that is opposed to our making it and which
          > >is
          > >trying to take us all back to what is for us a more primitive, lawless
          >and
          > >barbaric age that the world was last in about 12 thousand years ago. It
          > >was
          > >the age of the god-kings and goddess queens, when all power and wealth
          >was
          > >centralised in the hands of the sovereign, who was held to be the
          > >representative of heaven on earth. Today's nation-states have no such
          > >sovereigns (except in name, in some cases) and the rise of the Bush-junta
          > >in
          > >the modern USA can be viewed as an attempt to re-establish a centre of
          >such
          > >absolute sovereignty on earth. There are deep and numerous historical
          > >reasons for this happening which I will not go into right now. But we may
          > >see that it is a reactionary, retrogade step which must have painful
          > >consequences for everyone in the end. It is as if a bunch of fear-ridden
          > >leaders of the human pack have come to the unanimous agreement that
          >mature
          > >freedom and self-responsible adulthood is a very bad thing for human
          >beings
          > >to have really and that the only safe and sensible thing to do is to turn
          > >all our biological clocks back to their beginnings and start all over
          >again
          > >from babyhood, so as to build up a new world civilization over which they
          > >can exercise total, absolute control via technology.
          > >
          > > I think the solution to our world's problem, which the neocons and
          > >their cohorts in other countries have escalated into a crisis of world
          > >survival, lies in our ability to co-create a new world culture and
          > >civilization that is based on a decentralised model of social and
          >political
          > >organisation. We already have the technology that can facilitate it and
          > >enable it to work. What we do not have - at least, not in the public
          > >domain - is a well-thought out design for a thoroughly decentralised
          >world
          > >civilization and culture that could replace the reactionary, obsolete one
          > >which the neocons are currently installing and cementing into place. They
          > >want a new feudal world empire with them at the top of it and that is
          >what
          > >they are building. If it is not what we-the-people want too then
          >evidently
          > >it is down to us to create an alternative option that we prefer and go
          >for
          > >it. At some point in the game, I think maturing out of adolescance and
          > >into
          > >adulthood means assuming responsibility for creating our own reality to
          > >live
          > >in. It is what the neocons say they are doing so they cannot blame us for
          > >following their example and doing it too.
          > >
          > > But this is something that I believe we have to do by ourselves
          > >and
          > >without any material help from ETs, no matter how benign they may be,
          > >because it is fundamentally a matter of us as a large group (some 6
          >billion
          > >strong and counting) making our own free choices and decisions about our
          > >own
          > >evolutionary destiny. ETs cannot do our growing up for us and nor would
          > >the
          > >more mature ones want to, I think. I suspect that this is the basic
          >reason
          > >for their having quit centre-stage and are now watching from the wings.
          > >
          > > Regan
          > >
          > >
          > >----- Original Message -----
          > >From: Dex
          > >To: UFOdiscussion
          > >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:38 PM
          > >Subject: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
          > >
          > >
          > >Bill,
          > >Even though I can't 'substantiate' this, I'd like to say I know how you
          > >feel.
          > >
          > >Regan
          > >
          > >I have been feeling burnt about all the negative stuff in the world and
          >the
          > >depressing interference from both the Intelligence communities and the
          > >opposing disclosure ET factions.
          > >Our Adamic specie is more my resonance. Boy! Do I miss those days.
          > >Lucky Bill, he had the privilege of meeting some of the very special feel
          > >good people that obviously, space folks shared a common interest in them
          > >too.
          > >
          > >I keep asking for more of their personal positive energy interjection.
          >The
          > >Contacts. I miss their guiding messages of common sense and ideas for how
          > >we
          > >can to do things a better way.
          > >I hope it's still permitted these other world medical groups can continue
          > >assisting us.
          > >A compassion and concern I can relate too.
          > >
          > >Dex
          >
          >
          >
          >Yahoo! Groups Links
          >
          >
          >





          [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        • masanga@talktalk.net
          Hi Karin, :-) Here s to Ida! She s a great lady. I ve just been over to your web-site, not having visited for a while. I was impressed. It s clearly laid
          Message 4 of 11 , Oct 1, 2007
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            Hi Karin, :-)

            Here's to Ida! She's a great lady.

            I've just been over to your web-site, not having visited for a
            while. I was impressed. It's clearly laid out, easy to navigate and
            contains excellent resource material. Congrats.!

            Regan


            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Karin
            To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:37 PM
            Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's


            >ETs cannot do our growing up for us and nor would the
            > more mature ones want to, I think. I suspect that this is the basic
            > reason
            > for their having quit centre-stage and are now watching from the wings.

            Hi Regan! And Dex :-)

            There IS still one of the ol' time Contactees around, healthy and still as
            bright and sharp as you could wish: Ida Kannenberg. I've just published a
            collection of her essays : Time Travelers From Atlantis.

            Ida's still taking telepathic dictation from some very interesting and
            knowledgeable characters. Through reading and studying everything she has
            written, I've become her number one fan. I've learned so much from her, and
            it's benefited my own personal growth a great deal. She's the real deal.

            We also publish her workbook for Experiencers: How To Come To Terms With
            Your UFO/Alien Contact.

            Both are at Amazon.

            Best,
            Karin Holloway
            www.experiencers.net
          • shane eden
            Lucky you. There are no casinos here.
            Message 5 of 11 , Oct 1, 2007
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              Lucky you. There are no casinos here.



              :(





              >From: "Ted" <ufoazbk@...>
              >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
              >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited
              >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:32:47 -0700
              >
              >Got your message , but we were at the casino. I'll try today
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: shane eden
              > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:39 AM
              > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited
              >
              >
              > Thank you, Regan. It's always a relief to see when someone is noticing.
              >Now
              > to get the other 10
              > million....................................................LOL, Shane.
              >
              > :oP
              >
              > >From: <masanga@...>
              > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
              > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
              > >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0100
              > >
              > > Good luck on your efforts, Shane. It is good to see someone doing
              > >something positive.
              > >
              > > Regan
              > >
              > >
              > >----- Original Message -----
              > >From: shane eden
              > >To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              > >Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:15 PM
              > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
              > >
              > >
              > >Helloooooooooooo Regan & Dex & everyone,
              > >At the risk of sounding redundant,
              > >my world tour (www.worldfreedomtourinfo.com) is one answer to the
              >problem
              > >of
              > >how to interest the people in finding out what the problems are, and
              > >working
              > >on remedies. Ignore-ance seems to be an earthly trait, but once the
              >mass
              > >population realizes that we are all connected, that we have common
              >enemies,
              > >that we have common aspirations, that in fact all the answers are right
              > >here
              > >right now, that only then can we begin traveling in the right direction
              > >(upward & onward). We cannot get bogged down in our own narrow
              > >paradigm......only an open door allows movement. Think of how quickly a
              > >daily worldwide audience will bring awareness to the UFO question (and
              >all
              > >others) and think of how pleased our 'watchers" will be to see we have
              > >finally begun to start really working together for the good of mankind.
              >As
              > >our friend Bill has reminded us, the truth will set us free. If we will
              > >just
              > >look at it.
              > >Peace, Shane.
              > >
              > >:(
              > >
              > > >From: <masanga@...>
              > > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              > > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
              > > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
              > > >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:38:29 +0100
              > > >
              > > > Dex,
              > > >
              > > > I know what you mean; I miss them too. But I think this is a bit
              > > >like grown up children missing their deceased parents really. The
              >benign
              > > >space beings and the contactees of the last century gave us something
              > >that
              > > >we needed then and we may love them for it, but now we need to move
              >on
              > > >without their help so as to complete our present phase of
              >development.
              > >Our
              > > >needs are different nowadays and those beings could not really help
              >us
              > >with
              > > >them even if they were still around in the external world anyway
              >(they
              > >are
              > > >still very much with us in spirit, on the inner-planes, of course). I
              > > >think
              > > >humanity is going through the difficult adolescant phase of its
              > >development
              > > >now, when it has to learn the vital skills of ego self-management
              >that it
              > > >needs to support its freedom and independence in the wider cosmic
              > >society.
              > > >Put simply, we are having to do a lot of growing up fast in
              >preparation
              > >for
              > > >cosmic citizenship. But we are not ripe for that yet.
              > > >
              > > > I think this transition is particularly difficult for us because
              > > >we
              > > >have inherited a world culture that is opposed to our making it and
              >which
              > > >is
              > > >trying to take us all back to what is for us a more primitive,
              >lawless
              > >and
              > > >barbaric age that the world was last in about 12 thousand years ago.
              >It
              > > >was
              > > >the age of the god-kings and goddess queens, when all power and
              >wealth
              > >was
              > > >centralised in the hands of the sovereign, who was held to be the
              > > >representative of heaven on earth. Today's nation-states have no such
              > > >sovereigns (except in name, in some cases) and the rise of the
              >Bush-junta
              > > >in
              > > >the modern USA can be viewed as an attempt to re-establish a centre
              >of
              > >such
              > > >absolute sovereignty on earth. There are deep and numerous historical
              > > >reasons for this happening which I will not go into right now. But we
              >may
              > > >see that it is a reactionary, retrogade step which must have painful
              > > >consequences for everyone in the end. It is as if a bunch of
              >fear-ridden
              > > >leaders of the human pack have come to the unanimous agreement that
              > >mature
              > > >freedom and self-responsible adulthood is a very bad thing for human
              > >beings
              > > >to have really and that the only safe and sensible thing to do is to
              >turn
              > > >all our biological clocks back to their beginnings and start all over
              > >again
              > > >from babyhood, so as to build up a new world civilization over which
              >they
              > > >can exercise total, absolute control via technology.
              > > >
              > > > I think the solution to our world's problem, which the neocons and
              > > >their cohorts in other countries have escalated into a crisis of
              >world
              > > >survival, lies in our ability to co-create a new world culture and
              > > >civilization that is based on a decentralised model of social and
              > >political
              > > >organisation. We already have the technology that can facilitate it
              >and
              > > >enable it to work. What we do not have - at least, not in the public
              > > >domain - is a well-thought out design for a thoroughly decentralised
              > >world
              > > >civilization and culture that could replace the reactionary, obsolete
              >one
              > > >which the neocons are currently installing and cementing into place.
              >They
              > > >want a new feudal world empire with them at the top of it and that is
              > >what
              > > >they are building. If it is not what we-the-people want too then
              > >evidently
              > > >it is down to us to create an alternative option that we prefer and
              >go
              > >for
              > > >it. At some point in the game, I think maturing out of adolescance
              >and
              > > >into
              > > >adulthood means assuming responsibility for creating our own reality
              >to
              > > >live
              > > >in. It is what the neocons say they are doing so they cannot blame us
              >for
              > > >following their example and doing it too.
              > > >
              > > > But this is something that I believe we have to do by ourselves
              > > >and
              > > >without any material help from ETs, no matter how benign they may be,
              > > >because it is fundamentally a matter of us as a large group (some 6
              > >billion
              > > >strong and counting) making our own free choices and decisions about
              >our
              > > >own
              > > >evolutionary destiny. ETs cannot do our growing up for us and nor
              >would
              > > >the
              > > >more mature ones want to, I think. I suspect that this is the basic
              > >reason
              > > >for their having quit centre-stage and are now watching from the
              >wings.
              > > >
              > > > Regan
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >----- Original Message -----
              > > >From: Dex
              > > >To: UFOdiscussion
              > > >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:38 PM
              > > >Subject: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >Bill,
              > > >Even though I can't 'substantiate' this, I'd like to say I know how
              >you
              > > >feel.
              > > >
              > > >Regan
              > > >
              > > >I have been feeling burnt about all the negative stuff in the world
              >and
              > >the
              > > >depressing interference from both the Intelligence communities and
              >the
              > > >opposing disclosure ET factions.
              > > >Our Adamic specie is more my resonance. Boy! Do I miss those days.
              > > >Lucky Bill, he had the privilege of meeting some of the very special
              >feel
              > > >good people that obviously, space folks shared a common interest in
              >them
              > > >too.
              > > >
              > > >I keep asking for more of their personal positive energy
              >interjection.
              > >The
              > > >Contacts. I miss their guiding messages of common sense and ideas for
              >how
              > > >we
              > > >can to do things a better way.
              > > >I hope it's still permitted these other world medical groups can
              >continue
              > > >assisting us.
              > > >A compassion and concern I can relate too.
              > > >
              > > >Dex
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > >Yahoo! Groups Links
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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              >
            • Ted
              Move... ... From: shane eden To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion s revisited Lucky
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                ----- Original Message -----
                From: shane eden
                To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:07 PM
                Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited


                Lucky you. There are no casinos here.

                :(

                >From: "Ted" <ufoazbk@...>
                >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
                >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited
                >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:32:47 -0700
                >
                >Got your message , but we were at the casino. I'll try today
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: shane eden
                > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:39 AM
                > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited
                >
                >
                > Thank you, Regan. It's always a relief to see when someone is noticing.
                >Now
                > to get the other 10
                > million....................................................LOL, Shane.
                >
                > :oP
                >
                > >From: <masanga@...>
                > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
                > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
                > >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0100
                > >
                > > Good luck on your efforts, Shane. It is good to see someone doing
                > >something positive.
                > >
                > > Regan
                > >
                > >
                > >----- Original Message -----
                > >From: shane eden
                > >To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                > >Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:15 PM
                > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
                > >
                > >
                > >Helloooooooooooo Regan & Dex & everyone,
                > >At the risk of sounding redundant,
                > >my world tour (www.worldfreedomtourinfo.com) is one answer to the
                >problem
                > >of
                > >how to interest the people in finding out what the problems are, and
                > >working
                > >on remedies. Ignore-ance seems to be an earthly trait, but once the
                >mass
                > >population realizes that we are all connected, that we have common
                >enemies,
                > >that we have common aspirations, that in fact all the answers are right
                > >here
                > >right now, that only then can we begin traveling in the right direction
                > >(upward & onward). We cannot get bogged down in our own narrow
                > >paradigm......only an open door allows movement. Think of how quickly a
                > >daily worldwide audience will bring awareness to the UFO question (and
                >all
                > >others) and think of how pleased our 'watchers" will be to see we have
                > >finally begun to start really working together for the good of mankind.
                >As
                > >our friend Bill has reminded us, the truth will set us free. If we will
                > >just
                > >look at it.
                > >Peace, Shane.
                > >
                > >:(
                > >
                > > >From: <masanga@...>
                > > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                > > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
                > > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
                > > >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:38:29 +0100
                > > >
                > > > Dex,
                > > >
                > > > I know what you mean; I miss them too. But I think this is a bit
                > > >like grown up children missing their deceased parents really. The
                >benign
                > > >space beings and the contactees of the last century gave us something
                > >that
                > > >we needed then and we may love them for it, but now we need to move
                >on
                > > >without their help so as to complete our present phase of
                >development.
                > >Our
                > > >needs are different nowadays and those beings could not really help
                >us
                > >with
                > > >them even if they were still around in the external world anyway
                >(they
                > >are
                > > >still very much with us in spirit, on the inner-planes, of course). I
                > > >think
                > > >humanity is going through the difficult adolescant phase of its
                > >development
                > > >now, when it has to learn the vital skills of ego self-management
                >that it
                > > >needs to support its freedom and independence in the wider cosmic
                > >society.
                > > >Put simply, we are having to do a lot of growing up fast in
                >preparation
                > >for
                > > >cosmic citizenship. But we are not ripe for that yet.
                > > >
                > > > I think this transition is particularly difficult for us because
                > > >we
                > > >have inherited a world culture that is opposed to our making it and
                >which
                > > >is
                > > >trying to take us all back to what is for us a more primitive,
                >lawless
                > >and
                > > >barbaric age that the world was last in about 12 thousand years ago.
                >It
                > > >was
                > > >the age of the god-kings and goddess queens, when all power and
                >wealth
                > >was
                > > >centralised in the hands of the sovereign, who was held to be the
                > > >representative of heaven on earth. Today's nation-states have no such
                > > >sovereigns (except in name, in some cases) and the rise of the
                >Bush-junta
                > > >in
                > > >the modern USA can be viewed as an attempt to re-establish a centre
                >of
                > >such
                > > >absolute sovereignty on earth. There are deep and numerous historical
                > > >reasons for this happening which I will not go into right now. But we
                >may
                > > >see that it is a reactionary, retrogade step which must have painful
                > > >consequences for everyone in the end. It is as if a bunch of
                >fear-ridden
                > > >leaders of the human pack have come to the unanimous agreement that
                > >mature
                > > >freedom and self-responsible adulthood is a very bad thing for human
                > >beings
                > > >to have really and that the only safe and sensible thing to do is to
                >turn
                > > >all our biological clocks back to their beginnings and start all over
                > >again
                > > >from babyhood, so as to build up a new world civilization over which
                >they
                > > >can exercise total, absolute control via technology.
                > > >
                > > > I think the solution to our world's problem, which the neocons and
                > > >their cohorts in other countries have escalated into a crisis of
                >world
                > > >survival, lies in our ability to co-create a new world culture and
                > > >civilization that is based on a decentralised model of social and
                > >political
                > > >organisation. We already have the technology that can facilitate it
                >and
                > > >enable it to work. What we do not have - at least, not in the public
                > > >domain - is a well-thought out design for a thoroughly decentralised
                > >world
                > > >civilization and culture that could replace the reactionary, obsolete
                >one
                > > >which the neocons are currently installing and cementing into place.
                >They
                > > >want a new feudal world empire with them at the top of it and that is
                > >what
                > > >they are building. If it is not what we-the-people want too then
                > >evidently
                > > >it is down to us to create an alternative option that we prefer and
                >go
                > >for
                > > >it. At some point in the game, I think maturing out of adolescance
                >and
                > > >into
                > > >adulthood means assuming responsibility for creating our own reality
                >to
                > > >live
                > > >in. It is what the neocons say they are doing so they cannot blame us
                >for
                > > >following their example and doing it too.
                > > >
                > > > But this is something that I believe we have to do by ourselves
                > > >and
                > > >without any material help from ETs, no matter how benign they may be,
                > > >because it is fundamentally a matter of us as a large group (some 6
                > >billion
                > > >strong and counting) making our own free choices and decisions about
                >our
                > > >own
                > > >evolutionary destiny. ETs cannot do our growing up for us and nor
                >would
                > > >the
                > > >more mature ones want to, I think. I suspect that this is the basic
                > >reason
                > > >for their having quit centre-stage and are now watching from the
                >wings.
                > > >
                > > > Regan
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >----- Original Message -----
                > > >From: Dex
                > > >To: UFOdiscussion
                > > >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:38 PM
                > > >Subject: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >Bill,
                > > >Even though I can't 'substantiate' this, I'd like to say I know how
                >you
                > > >feel.
                > > >
                > > >Regan
                > > >
                > > >I have been feeling burnt about all the negative stuff in the world
                >and
                > >the
                > > >depressing interference from both the Intelligence communities and
                >the
                > > >opposing disclosure ET factions.
                > > >Our Adamic specie is more my resonance. Boy! Do I miss those days.
                > > >Lucky Bill, he had the privilege of meeting some of the very special
                >feel
                > > >good people that obviously, space folks shared a common interest in
                >them
                > > >too.
                > > >
                > > >I keep asking for more of their personal positive energy
                >interjection.
                > >The
                > > >Contacts. I miss their guiding messages of common sense and ideas for
                >how
                > > >we
                > > >can to do things a better way.
                > > >I hope it's still permitted these other world medical groups can
                >continue
                > > >assisting us.
                > > >A compassion and concern I can relate too.
                > > >
                > > >Dex
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >Yahoo! Groups Links
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
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              • Dex
                ... Wow, gee, golly..that s says something about sophistication. But it s true... I ve been thinking about my past a lot lately. Reliving the good time energy.
                Message 7 of 11 , Oct 3, 2007
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                  > Dex,
                  >
                  > I know what you mean; I miss them too. But I think this is a bit
                  > like grown up children missing their deceased parents really.

                  Wow, gee, golly..that's says something about sophistication.
                  But it's true...
                  I've been thinking about my past a lot lately.
                  Reliving the good time energy.
                  I have many great memories.
                  I miss almost everyone I knew.
                  I regret greatly not keeping track of them.
                  Life is not the same nor better without them than what it use to be.

                  Dex
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