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  • Ted
    I m sorry but I m also in the crowd That doesn t believe that this dude is the real McCoy. Just another story made into a book, and I bought the book. Look at
    Message 1 of 16 , Aug 4, 2007
      I'm sorry but I'm also in the crowd That doesn't believe that this dude is the real McCoy. Just another story made into a book, and I bought the book.
      Look at who you use as a resource, Paulo H. She claims to have to investigated Hall, I say what investigation, shoddy at best. She also claims to have resurrected Alex C. AND CLAIMED , that Alex was the real thing... Yeah right.
      She's an interviewer not a researcher, and what that is any more I don't know.
      It's all a race to get their 15 min. on the news.

      As for Jim C. I know all about his meeting , he came to my house ,right after he had his meeting. Jim is a close friend , but I still have a hard time believing the story. Someone else you didn't mention was Michael H. also saw Wolf at his home and recorded most of there conversations, which I also heard. Michael and I have been close for many years, but I don't see any evidence to this fantastic STORY..
      Dr. Boyland and I had a heated conversation concerning Wolf, and yes , I do know that the good Dr. thinks very highly of his involvement with Wolf, but we'd agreed to disagree.

      Hell, I guess , it's like art, it's in the eye of the beholder.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Dex
      To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:37 PM
      Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall


      Ted

      This just came in from M. Salla.
      Debunkers had a field day claiming how fraudulent Wolf was...too.

      Dex
      ***********

      Aloha, below is a fascinating interview with Dr Michael Wolf who
      claimed to be involved with the MJ-12 Special Studies Group. There has
      been much criticism over Wolf's authenticity by researchers such as
      Stanton Friedman who cite a lack of documentation for his many claims.
      In contrast, veteran researchers such as Paola Harris, Dr Richard
      Boylan and Jim Courant investigated Wolf's case, saw first hand some
      of his private documentation, and found him to be authentic. In the
      following interview, Chris Stoner also cites private documentation
      such as a photograph of Wolf and President Clinton. Stoner provides an
      excellent overview on Wolf's views and since he directly met and
      interviewed Wolf, his views are helpful in determining the validity of
      Wolf's views.

      When the circumstances of Wolf's recruitment and work for the MJ-12
      Group are compared to others who worked in covert MJ-12 projects they
      match very well. I recommend applying the 10 personnel management
      procedures used for MJ-12 Group personnel that I developed from
      analyzing the Clifford Stone and Dan Sherman cases, to help determine
      the accuracy of Wolf's claims concerning his work for MJ-12. See:
      http://exopoliticsjournal.com/vol-2/vol-2-2-Salla.htm

      My view is that the Michael Wolf was very likely a genuine
      whistle blower participating in an approved acclimation program where
      he could disclose valid information. The Stoner interview clearly
      summarizes Wolf's views on a number of topics, and is very helpful in
      describing how MJ-12 works with its personnel in acclimating the
      general public about extraterrestrial information. I recommend reading
      the following interview by Stoner and judging for yourself the
      importance of his information. Strangely, the Stoner interview is no
      longer available on the Internet.

      In peace

      Michael Salla, Ph.D.
      www.exopolitics.org

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    • Ted
      I ve been watching what you post for a couple of yrs. and for the most, I ve agreed with you. But when you brought up two out of three wantabees I had to say
      Message 2 of 16 , Aug 4, 2007
        I've been watching what you post for a couple of yrs. and for the most, I've agreed with you. But when you brought up two out of three wantabees I had to say something. In fact , I wrote at least three different posts before I sent one out.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Dex
        To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:25 PM
        Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall


        Thanks Ted...honest injun assessment...
        I know the feeling with these guys.
        If I told you more about my, through the years developed relationship, with both physical and non-physical entities... well, lets not. It wouldn't be believed unless you experience it yourself.

        The boil down criteria.

        Heck, it's even hard for me to believe.

        Dex

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      • Dex
        Ted This just came in from M. Salla. Debunkers had a field day claiming how fraudulent Wolf was...too. Dex *********** Aloha, below is a fascinating interview
        Message 3 of 16 , Aug 4, 2007
          Ted

          This just came in from M. Salla.
          Debunkers had a field day claiming how fraudulent Wolf was...too.

          Dex
          ***********

          Aloha, below is a fascinating interview with Dr Michael Wolf who
          claimed to be involved with the MJ-12 Special Studies Group. There has
          been much criticism over Wolf's authenticity by researchers such as
          Stanton Friedman who cite a lack of documentation for his many claims.
          In contrast, veteran researchers such as Paola Harris, Dr Richard
          Boylan and Jim Courant investigated Wolf's case, saw first hand some
          of his private documentation, and found him to be authentic. In the
          following interview, Chris Stoner also cites private documentation
          such as a photograph of Wolf and President Clinton. Stoner provides an
          excellent overview on Wolf's views and since he directly met and
          interviewed Wolf, his views are helpful in determining the validity of
          Wolf's views.

          When the circumstances of Wolf's recruitment and work for the MJ-12
          Group are compared to others who worked in covert MJ-12 projects they
          match very well. I recommend applying the 10 personnel management
          procedures used for MJ-12 Group personnel that I developed from
          analyzing the Clifford Stone and Dan Sherman cases, to help determine
          the accuracy of Wolf's claims concerning his work for MJ-12. See:
          http://exopoliticsjournal.com/vol-2/vol-2-2-Salla.htm

          My view is that the Michael Wolf was very likely a genuine
          whistle blower participating in an approved acclimation program where
          he could disclose valid information. The Stoner interview clearly
          summarizes Wolf's views on a number of topics, and is very helpful in
          describing how MJ-12 works with its personnel in acclimating the
          general public about extraterrestrial information. I recommend reading
          the following interview by Stoner and judging for yourself the
          importance of his information. Strangely, the Stoner interview is no
          longer available on the Internet.

          In peace

          Michael Salla, Ph.D.
          www.exopolitics.org

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        • Dex
          Thanks Ted...honest injun assessment... I know the feeling with these guys. If I told you more about my, through the years developed relationship, with both
          Message 4 of 16 , Aug 4, 2007
            Thanks Ted...honest injun assessment...
            I know the feeling with these guys.
            If I told you more about my, through the years developed relationship, with both physical and non-physical entities... well, lets not. It wouldn't be believed unless you experience it yourself.

            The boil down criteria.

            Heck, it's even hard for me to believe.


            Dex

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          • Dex
            Ted Are you assigned to watch the flow? D I ve been watching what you post for a couple of yrs. and for the most, I ve agreed with you. But when you brought up
            Message 5 of 16 , Aug 4, 2007
              Ted

              Are you assigned to watch the flow?

              D



              I've been watching what you post for a couple of yrs. and for the most, I've agreed with you. But when you brought up two out of three wantabees I had to say something. In fact , I wrote at least three different posts before I sent one out.
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Dex
              To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:25 PM
              Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall

              Thanks Ted...honest injun assessment...
              I know the feeling with these guys.
              If I told you more about my, through the years developed relationship, with both physical and non-physical entities... well, lets not. It wouldn't be believed unless you experience it yourself.

              The boil down criteria.

              Heck, it's even hard for me to believe.

              Dex

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            • William Hamilton
              Ted, We run a close parallel here. Charles Hall: wrote his book as fiction and he should have left it that way. Alex Collier: a plagiarist at best;
              Message 6 of 16 , Aug 5, 2007
                Ted,

                We run a close parallel here.

                Charles Hall: wrote his book as fiction and he should have left it that way.

                Alex Collier: a plagiarist at best; copycatting other contactee's material.

                Michael Wolf: had mental problems -- was under psychiatric care -- there
                are court docs on this.

                We should definitely discard these charlatans and keep searching for
                the truth.

                Sincerely,

                Bill Hamilton
                AstroScience Research
                http://www.astrosciences.info
                "I don't see the logic of rejecting data just because they seem incredible." Fred Hoyle

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Ted
                To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 2:01 PM
                Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall


                I'm sorry but I'm also in the crowd That doesn't believe that this dude is the real McCoy. Just another story made into a book, and I bought the book.
                Look at who you use as a resource, Paulo H. She claims to have to investigated Hall, I say what investigation, shoddy at best. She also claims to have resurrected Alex C. AND CLAIMED , that Alex was the real thing... Yeah right.
                She's an interviewer not a researcher, and what that is any more I don't know.
                It's all a race to get their 15 min. on the news.

                As for Jim C. I know all about his meeting , he came to my house ,right after he had his meeting. Jim is a close friend , but I still have a hard time believing the story. Someone else you didn't mention was Michael H. also saw Wolf at his home and recorded most of there conversations, which I also heard. Michael and I have been close for many years, but I don't see any evidence to this fantastic STORY..
                Dr. Boyland and I had a heated conversation concerning Wolf, and yes , I do know that the good Dr. thinks very highly of his involvement with Wolf, but we'd agreed to disagree.

                Hell, I guess , it's like art, it's in the eye of the beholder.

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Dex
                To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:37 PM
                Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall

                Ted

                This just came in from M. Salla.
                Debunkers had a field day claiming how fraudulent Wolf was...too.

                Dex
                ***********

                Aloha, below is a fascinating interview with Dr Michael Wolf who
                claimed to be involved with the MJ-12 Special Studies Group. There has
                been much criticism over Wolf's authenticity by researchers such as
                Stanton Friedman who cite a lack of documentation for his many claims.
                In contrast, veteran researchers such as Paola Harris, Dr Richard
                Boylan and Jim Courant investigated Wolf's case, saw first hand some
                of his private documentation, and found him to be authentic. In the
                following interview, Chris Stoner also cites private documentation
                such as a photograph of Wolf and President Clinton. Stoner provides an
                excellent overview on Wolf's views and since he directly met and
                interviewed Wolf, his views are helpful in determining the validity of
                Wolf's views.

                When the circumstances of Wolf's recruitment and work for the MJ-12
                Group are compared to others who worked in covert MJ-12 projects they
                match very well. I recommend applying the 10 personnel management
                procedures used for MJ-12 Group personnel that I developed from
                analyzing the Clifford Stone and Dan Sherman cases, to help determine
                the accuracy of Wolf's claims concerning his work for MJ-12. See:
                http://exopoliticsjournal.com/vol-2/vol-2-2-Salla.htm

                My view is that the Michael Wolf was very likely a genuine
                whistle blower participating in an approved acclimation program where
                he could disclose valid information. The Stoner interview clearly
                summarizes Wolf's views on a number of topics, and is very helpful in
                describing how MJ-12 works with its personnel in acclimating the
                general public about extraterrestrial information. I recommend reading
                the following interview by Stoner and judging for yourself the
                importance of his information. Strangely, the Stoner interview is no
                longer available on the Internet.

                In peace

                Michael Salla, Ph.D.
                www.exopolitics.org

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              • Ted
                Thank goodness there are at least two sane people out there What say the others. ... From: William Hamilton To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday,
                Message 7 of 16 , Aug 6, 2007
                  Thank goodness there are at least two sane people out there
                  What say the others.

                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: William Hamilton
                  To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 7:27 AM
                  Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall


                  Ted,

                  We run a close parallel here.

                  Charles Hall: wrote his book as fiction and he should have left it that way.

                  Alex Collier: a plagiarist at best; copycatting other contactee's material.

                  Michael Wolf: had mental problems -- was under psychiatric care -- there
                  are court docs on this.

                  We should definitely discard these charlatans and keep searching for
                  the truth.

                  Sincerely,

                  Bill Hamilton
                  AstroScience Research
                  http://www.astrosciences.info
                  "I don't see the logic of rejecting data just because they seem incredible." Fred Hoyle

                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: Ted
                  To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 2:01 PM
                  Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall

                  I'm sorry but I'm also in the crowd That doesn't believe that this dude is the real McCoy. Just another story made into a book, and I bought the book.
                  Look at who you use as a resource, Paulo H. She claims to have to investigated Hall, I say what investigation, shoddy at best. She also claims to have resurrected Alex C. AND CLAIMED , that Alex was the real thing... Yeah right.
                  She's an interviewer not a researcher, and what that is any more I don't know.
                  It's all a race to get their 15 min. on the news.

                  As for Jim C. I know all about his meeting , he came to my house ,right after he had his meeting. Jim is a close friend , but I still have a hard time believing the story. Someone else you didn't mention was Michael H. also saw Wolf at his home and recorded most of there conversations, which I also heard. Michael and I have been close for many years, but I don't see any evidence to this fantastic STORY..
                  Dr. Boyland and I had a heated conversation concerning Wolf, and yes , I do know that the good Dr. thinks very highly of his involvement with Wolf, but we'd agreed to disagree.

                  Hell, I guess , it's like art, it's in the eye of the beholder.

                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: Dex
                  To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:37 PM
                  Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall

                  Ted

                  This just came in from M. Salla.
                  Debunkers had a field day claiming how fraudulent Wolf was...too.

                  Dex
                  ***********

                  Aloha, below is a fascinating interview with Dr Michael Wolf who
                  claimed to be involved with the MJ-12 Special Studies Group. There has
                  been much criticism over Wolf's authenticity by researchers such as
                  Stanton Friedman who cite a lack of documentation for his many claims.
                  In contrast, veteran researchers such as Paola Harris, Dr Richard
                  Boylan and Jim Courant investigated Wolf's case, saw first hand some
                  of his private documentation, and found him to be authentic. In the
                  following interview, Chris Stoner also cites private documentation
                  such as a photograph of Wolf and President Clinton. Stoner provides an
                  excellent overview on Wolf's views and since he directly met and
                  interviewed Wolf, his views are helpful in determining the validity of
                  Wolf's views.

                  When the circumstances of Wolf's recruitment and work for the MJ-12
                  Group are compared to others who worked in covert MJ-12 projects they
                  match very well. I recommend applying the 10 personnel management
                  procedures used for MJ-12 Group personnel that I developed from
                  analyzing the Clifford Stone and Dan Sherman cases, to help determine
                  the accuracy of Wolf's claims concerning his work for MJ-12. See:
                  http://exopoliticsjournal.com/vol-2/vol-2-2-Salla.htm

                  My view is that the Michael Wolf was very likely a genuine
                  whistle blower participating in an approved acclimation program where
                  he could disclose valid information. The Stoner interview clearly
                  summarizes Wolf's views on a number of topics, and is very helpful in
                  describing how MJ-12 works with its personnel in acclimating the
                  general public about extraterrestrial information. I recommend reading
                  the following interview by Stoner and judging for yourself the
                  importance of his information. Strangely, the Stoner interview is no
                  longer available on the Internet.

                  In peace

                  Michael Salla, Ph.D.
                  www.exopolitics.org

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                • Ted
                  I must be out of some loop , Flow? Maybe... ... From: Dex To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: Re:
                  Message 8 of 16 , Aug 6, 2007
                    I must be out of some loop , Flow? Maybe...
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: Dex
                    To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 6:07 PM
                    Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall


                    Ted

                    Are you assigned to watch the flow?

                    D

                    I've been watching what you post for a couple of yrs. and for the most, I've agreed with you. But when you brought up two out of three wantabees I had to say something. In fact , I wrote at least three different posts before I sent one out.
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: Dex
                    To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:25 PM
                    Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall

                    Thanks Ted...honest injun assessment...
                    I know the feeling with these guys.
                    If I told you more about my, through the years developed relationship, with both physical and non-physical entities... well, lets not. It wouldn't be believed unless you experience it yourself.

                    The boil down criteria.

                    Heck, it's even hard for me to believe.

                    Dex

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                  • Bre
                    Hi Ted and Dex, I don t think it matters, in the end, what opinions are held by anybody. They are just that, opinions. We will just have to wait and see. Bre.
                    Message 9 of 16 , Aug 8, 2007
                      Hi Ted and Dex,
                      I don't think it matters, in the end, what opinions are held by anybody.
                      They are just that, opinions.
                      We will just have to wait and see.
                      Bre.
                      Unite Our Worlds.

                      Ted wrote:
                      >
                      > So... So he can write a book. So did Jonathan Reed.
                      > There is absolutely no other proof , if you call one mans story proof.
                      > Time will tell and so far he's an Author of fiction no more no less.
                      > just Like Alex C. Another want to be.
                      > If these two are so great then why are they both looked cross eyed by
                      > the UFO community
                      > And I too have met all three and I stand firm on my above writings.
                      > Cooks all three of them.
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: Dex
                      > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                      > <mailto:ufodiscussion%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:20 AM
                      > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall
                      >
                      > Ted
                      >
                      > I'd like to think so, but, the below are some replies may be worth
                      > considering too?
                      >
                      > Dex
                      >
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > Ted wrote:
                      >
                      > This is a joke and so is Hall
                      >
                      > .
                      >
                      >
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                    • Ted
                      Agreed... Opinions are just that opinions. Then we should form NO opinions on weather research, abductions, emails, interviewsect... are just opinions and we
                      Message 10 of 16 , Aug 9, 2007
                        Agreed...
                        Opinions are just that opinions.
                        Then we should form NO opinions on weather research, abductions, emails, interviewsect... are just opinions and we should wait to see it on the news .
                        Oh yeah, they're opinions too...
                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: Bre
                        To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:04 PM
                        Subject: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall


                        Hi Ted and Dex,
                        I don't think it matters, in the end, what opinions are held by anybody.
                        They are just that, opinions.
                        We will just have to wait and see.
                        Bre.
                        Unite Our Worlds.

                        Ted wrote:
                        >
                        > So... So he can write a book. So did Jonathan Reed.
                        > There is absolutely no other proof , if you call one mans story proof.
                        > Time will tell and so far he's an Author of fiction no more no less.
                        > just Like Alex C. Another want to be.
                        > If these two are so great then why are they both looked cross eyed by
                        > the UFO community
                        > And I too have met all three and I stand firm on my above writings.
                        > Cooks all three of them.
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: Dex
                        > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
                        > <mailto:ufodiscussion%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:20 AM
                        > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] The Tall Whites & Charles Hall
                        >
                        > Ted
                        >
                        > I'd like to think so, but, the below are some replies may be worth
                        > considering too?
                        >
                        > Dex
                        >
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > Ted wrote:
                        >
                        > This is a joke and so is Hall
                        >
                        > .
                        >
                        >
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