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  • William Hamilton
    Mar 31, 2005
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      Jahnet,

      Now I know you did not read what was on the site.
      He said the pictures were sent to him by a woman who is a graphic
      artist who wants to remain anonymous. We do not know what this woman
      did to enhance the pictures. Don't assume anything.

      Bill
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Jahnets" <Jahnets@...>
      To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:48 PM
      Subject: RE: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They
      Tell?/I have been working on this for over a year


      >
      > Whoa...Bill so you're saying that anyone who knows how to zoom in on a
      > picture from Nasa's site is suspect...You could go to Nasa's site and get
      > the same picture I'm sure, but it sounds like instead of asking him which
      > day or anything to find out what picture it is you just want to assume
      > he's
      > trying to dupe us because he knows how to enhance pictures... Isn't that
      > like saying if you have any brains at all you're going to try and hoax us
      > just to prove you can??? X files was a tv show, trust no one was a by
      > line...
      >
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: William Hamilton [mailto:astroxplorer@...]
      > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:40 AM
      > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They
      > Tell?/I have been working on this for over a year
      >
      >
      >
      > I cannot prove what it is or isn't without working with an
      > untouched original without graphic enhancement. The
      > fact that a graphic's person presented these images is
      > reason enough for suspicion.
      >
      > Bill
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Jahnets" <Jahnets@...>
      > To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:08 PM
      > Subject: RE: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They
      > Tell?/I have been working on this for over a year
      >
      >
      >>
      >> Well that does look like a complex of buildings in the first picture
      >> before
      >> it is blown up bigger... I wouldn't think that rocks and boulders would
      >> be
      >> linear like that... Maybe occationally but not that many together at
      >> right
      >> angles... The picture itself does look like someone has tried to erase
      >> what
      >> ever is there or paint over it... But more importantly Bill, as I am an
      >> amateur with pictures and can only go by what I see and sense, how would
      >> you
      >> as a professional prove this isn't a complex??? To may times I think we
      >> are
      >> asked to prove what it is, how about proving what it isn't???
      >> hmmm
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: William Hamilton [mailto:astroxplorer@...]
      >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:53 AM
      >> To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      >> Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They
      >> Tell?/I have been working on this for over a year
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> And do these images show the evidence of civilization on Mars they
      >> purport
      >> to show?
      >> Or is an amateur analyst fooling himself ?
      >>
      >>
      > http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2005/084/hale-civ-eviden
      >> ce.htm
      >>
      >> Take a look, then click on HOME and find more images of anomalies on
      >> Mars.
      >>
      >> Bill
      >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> From: "Jerry Lehane III" <j.lehane@...>
      >> To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:15 AM
      >> Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They
      >> Tell?/I have been working on this for over a year
      >>
      >>
      >>>
      >>> There is a variety of live and highly evolved being living at both Mars
      >>> Rovers sites.I have been gathering pics of them.Some yahoo groups don't
      >>> give
      >>> me easy access to post(open posting) so that I can't simply say check
      >>> the
      >>> PHOTOS section of this Yahoo Group.If they were more open,then you would
      >>> already know what life on Mars looks like.Check out the photos sections
      >>> of
      >>> Space
      >>>
      >>
      > people,eceti-chat,ShowInQuotes,Punktress,nasa2,space_expedition,abeginnerscl
      >> ub.There
      >>> are over 300 pics posted in these few groups with Mars live beings and
      >>> fossils.Jerry Lehane III Newark Delaware j.lehane@...
      >>> ----- Original Message -----
      >>> From: "Light Eye" <universal_heartbeat2012@...>
      >>> To: <Global_Rumblings@...>; <SpeakIt@...>;
      >>> <SkyOpen@yahoogroups.com>; <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>;
      >>> <changingplanetgroup@yahoogroups.com>
      >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:02 AM
      >>> Subject: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They Tell?
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>
      >>>> Dear Friends,
      >>>>
      >>>> This is a 3 page article so click the link if you can't proceed to page
      >>>> 2.
      >>>> You may also have to register to proceed to page 2.
      >>>>
      >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/science/space/29mars.html?oref=login
      >>>>
      >>>> Love and Light.
      >>>>
      >>>> David
      >>>>
      >>>> Life on Mars? Could Be, but How Will They Tell?By KENNETH CHANG
      >>>>
      >>>> Published: March 29, 2005
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> he landscape looked lifeless. But satellite images from orbit
      >>>> identified
      >>>> geological formations containing minerals that microbes sometimes like
      >>>> to
      >>>> nestle in, and scientists dispatched a small rover to look at the rocks
      >>>> up
      >>>> close.
      >>>>
      >>>> Fluorescent dyes sprayed on the ground lit up, proclaiming the presence
      >>>> of
      >>>> proteins and DNA. The rover also detected chlorophyll, the
      >>>> energy-producing molecule of plants.
      >>>>
      >>>> And so scientists discovered life in Chile's Atacama Desert.
      >>>>
      >>>> Life there, one of the driest places on Earth, is sparse, but no one
      >>>> was
      >>>> surprised to find it. And they weren't really hunting life on Earth.
      >>>> The
      >>>> exercise last summer was practice for the techniques scientists hope to
      >>>> use in the future on Mars, where the question of life remains
      >>>> intriguingly
      >>>> open.
      >>>>
      >>>> "You've got to go look," said Dr. Alan S. Waggoner, director of the
      >>>> Molecular Biosensor and Imaging Center at Carnegie Mellon University in
      >>>> Pittsburgh and a participant in the NASA-sponsored project. "I'd give
      >>>> it
      >>>> a
      >>>> 50-50 shot that you could find it somewhere underground. But then
      >>>> that's
      >>>> a
      >>>> guess."
      >>>>
      >>>> He is not alone. In an informal poll taken last month at a conference
      >>>> in
      >>>> the Netherlands, three-quarters of 250 scientists working on the
      >>>> European
      >>>> Space Agency's Mars Express mission said they believed Mars once
      >>>> possessed
      >>>> conditions hospitable to life. One quarter believe it still does.
      >>>>
      >>>> Planetary scientists have long thought that early in its history Mars
      >>>> may
      >>>> have been more like Earth, warm and wet, a place where life could have
      >>>> taken hold. But then the climate turned cold and dry and has remained
      >>>> cold
      >>>> and dry for several billion years. For many, the presumption was that
      >>>> Martian life, if any ever existed, died away long ago.
      >>>>
      >>>> Over the past year, the notion that life not only arose on Mars but
      >>>> persists today has become more plausible with reports of methane gas
      >>>> currently floating in its atmosphere. The two most likely sources are
      >>>> geothermal chemical reactions or bacteria, and because ultraviolet
      >>>> light
      >>>> breaks down methane within a few centuries, any detectable methane must
      >>>> have been put there recently.
      >>>>
      >>>> Another possibility is that the methane comes from the remains of long
      >>>> dead organisms trapped underground as oil or coal-like deposits and
      >>>> transformed to methane by the heat of meteor impacts.
      >>>>
      >>>> "The evidence is teasing us," said Dr. Everett K. Gibson Jr. of NASA's
      >>>> Johnson Space Center in Houston, a member of the research team that
      >>>> claimed in 1996 to have found organic molecules, bacterialike fossils
      >>>> and
      >>>> other evidence of life in a Martian meteorite found in Antarctica.
      >>>>
      >>>> Meanwhile, biologists have in recent years discovered life on Earth in
      >>>> places they would not have expected, adapted to the harshest of
      >>>> conditions: in rocks miles underground, at the sunless bottoms of
      >>>> oceans,
      >>>> in extremely acidic waters.
      >>>>
      >>>> Dr. Gibson said he believed that there was life on early Mars and that
      >>>> it
      >>>> could still be there. "Life tries to hang on," he said. "Life tries to
      >>>> do
      >>>> everything it can to survive."
      >>>>
      >>>> Carbon-based life requires three essential ingredients - carbon, liquid
      >>>> water and energy - and all appear to be present on Mars. Carbon dioxide
      >>>> makes up most of Mars' thin atmosphere, and some Mars rocks, including
      >>>> the
      >>>> one that Dr. Gibson examined, are known to contain carbon.
      >>>>
      >>>> Liquid water is no longer present at the surface, but it once was.
      >>>> NASA's
      >>>> Mars rover Opportunity found minerals, particularly an iron mineral
      >>>> known
      >>>> as jarosite, that require prolonged steeping in water to form. Images
      >>>> from
      >>>> spacecraft in orbit find signs that liquid water has burst onto the
      >>>> surface in geologically recent times.
      >>>>
      >>>> Volcanic heat could provide the energy. The European Space Agency this
      >>>> month released photographs of Mars' north pole that showed signs of ash
      >>>> from eruptions.
      >>>>
      >>>> At the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference outside Houston this
      >>>> month,
      >>>> Lindsey S. Link, a graduate student at the University of Colorado,
      >>>> presented calculations showing that even at temperatures not far above
      >>>> freezing, chemical reactions between water and minerals in the basaltic
      >>>> lavas of Martian bedrock could also generate energy for life to thrive
      >>>> on.
      >>>>
      >>>> "It turns out there's quite a bit," Ms. Link said. "I think we're
      >>>> learning
      >>>> life doesn't need a lot more than rock and water, if it can get energy
      >>>> from these reactions."
      >>>>
      >>>> But if life exists, how to find it?
      >>>>
      >>>>
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