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  • William Hamilton
    Mar 31 8:39 AM
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      I cannot prove what it is or isn't without working with an
      untouched original without graphic enhancement. The
      fact that a graphic's person presented these images is
      reason enough for suspicion.

      Bill
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      From: "Jahnets" <Jahnets@...>
      To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:08 PM
      Subject: RE: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They
      Tell?/I have been working on this for over a year


      >
      > Well that does look like a complex of buildings in the first picture
      > before
      > it is blown up bigger... I wouldn't think that rocks and boulders would be
      > linear like that... Maybe occationally but not that many together at right
      > angles... The picture itself does look like someone has tried to erase
      > what
      > ever is there or paint over it... But more importantly Bill, as I am an
      > amateur with pictures and can only go by what I see and sense, how would
      > you
      > as a professional prove this isn't a complex??? To may times I think we
      > are
      > asked to prove what it is, how about proving what it isn't???
      > hmmm
      >
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: William Hamilton [mailto:astroxplorer@...]
      > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:53 AM
      > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They
      > Tell?/I have been working on this for over a year
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      >
      >
      > And do these images show the evidence of civilization on Mars they purport
      > to show?
      > Or is an amateur analyst fooling himself ?
      >
      > http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2005/084/hale-civ-eviden
      > ce.htm
      >
      > Take a look, then click on HOME and find more images of anomalies on Mars.
      >
      > Bill
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Jerry Lehane III" <j.lehane@...>
      > To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:15 AM
      > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They
      > Tell?/I have been working on this for over a year
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      >>
      >> There is a variety of live and highly evolved being living at both Mars
      >> Rovers sites.I have been gathering pics of them.Some yahoo groups don't
      >> give
      >> me easy access to post(open posting) so that I can't simply say check the
      >> PHOTOS section of this Yahoo Group.If they were more open,then you would
      >> already know what life on Mars looks like.Check out the photos sections
      >> of
      >> Space
      >>
      > people,eceti-chat,ShowInQuotes,Punktress,nasa2,space_expedition,abeginnerscl
      > ub.There
      >> are over 300 pics posted in these few groups with Mars live beings and
      >> fossils.Jerry Lehane III Newark Delaware j.lehane@...
      >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> From: "Light Eye" <universal_heartbeat2012@...>
      >> To: <Global_Rumblings@...>; <SpeakIt@...>;
      >> <SkyOpen@yahoogroups.com>; <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>;
      >> <changingplanetgroup@yahoogroups.com>
      >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:02 AM
      >> Subject: [ufodiscussion] Life On Mars? Could Be, But How Will They Tell?
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      >>>
      >>> Dear Friends,
      >>>
      >>> This is a 3 page article so click the link if you can't proceed to page
      >>> 2.
      >>> You may also have to register to proceed to page 2.
      >>>
      >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/science/space/29mars.html?oref=login
      >>>
      >>> Love and Light.
      >>>
      >>> David
      >>>
      >>> Life on Mars? Could Be, but How Will They Tell?By KENNETH CHANG
      >>>
      >>> Published: March 29, 2005
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> he landscape looked lifeless. But satellite images from orbit identified
      >>> geological formations containing minerals that microbes sometimes like
      >>> to
      >>> nestle in, and scientists dispatched a small rover to look at the rocks
      >>> up
      >>> close.
      >>>
      >>> Fluorescent dyes sprayed on the ground lit up, proclaiming the presence
      >>> of
      >>> proteins and DNA. The rover also detected chlorophyll, the
      >>> energy-producing molecule of plants.
      >>>
      >>> And so scientists discovered life in Chile's Atacama Desert.
      >>>
      >>> Life there, one of the driest places on Earth, is sparse, but no one was
      >>> surprised to find it. And they weren't really hunting life on Earth. The
      >>> exercise last summer was practice for the techniques scientists hope to
      >>> use in the future on Mars, where the question of life remains
      >>> intriguingly
      >>> open.
      >>>
      >>> "You've got to go look," said Dr. Alan S. Waggoner, director of the
      >>> Molecular Biosensor and Imaging Center at Carnegie Mellon University in
      >>> Pittsburgh and a participant in the NASA-sponsored project. "I'd give it
      >>> a
      >>> 50-50 shot that you could find it somewhere underground. But then that's
      >>> a
      >>> guess."
      >>>
      >>> He is not alone. In an informal poll taken last month at a conference in
      >>> the Netherlands, three-quarters of 250 scientists working on the
      >>> European
      >>> Space Agency's Mars Express mission said they believed Mars once
      >>> possessed
      >>> conditions hospitable to life. One quarter believe it still does.
      >>>
      >>> Planetary scientists have long thought that early in its history Mars
      >>> may
      >>> have been more like Earth, warm and wet, a place where life could have
      >>> taken hold. But then the climate turned cold and dry and has remained
      >>> cold
      >>> and dry for several billion years. For many, the presumption was that
      >>> Martian life, if any ever existed, died away long ago.
      >>>
      >>> Over the past year, the notion that life not only arose on Mars but
      >>> persists today has become more plausible with reports of methane gas
      >>> currently floating in its atmosphere. The two most likely sources are
      >>> geothermal chemical reactions or bacteria, and because ultraviolet light
      >>> breaks down methane within a few centuries, any detectable methane must
      >>> have been put there recently.
      >>>
      >>> Another possibility is that the methane comes from the remains of long
      >>> dead organisms trapped underground as oil or coal-like deposits and
      >>> transformed to methane by the heat of meteor impacts.
      >>>
      >>> "The evidence is teasing us," said Dr. Everett K. Gibson Jr. of NASA's
      >>> Johnson Space Center in Houston, a member of the research team that
      >>> claimed in 1996 to have found organic molecules, bacterialike fossils
      >>> and
      >>> other evidence of life in a Martian meteorite found in Antarctica.
      >>>
      >>> Meanwhile, biologists have in recent years discovered life on Earth in
      >>> places they would not have expected, adapted to the harshest of
      >>> conditions: in rocks miles underground, at the sunless bottoms of
      >>> oceans,
      >>> in extremely acidic waters.
      >>>
      >>> Dr. Gibson said he believed that there was life on early Mars and that
      >>> it
      >>> could still be there. "Life tries to hang on," he said. "Life tries to
      >>> do
      >>> everything it can to survive."
      >>>
      >>> Carbon-based life requires three essential ingredients - carbon, liquid
      >>> water and energy - and all appear to be present on Mars. Carbon dioxide
      >>> makes up most of Mars' thin atmosphere, and some Mars rocks, including
      >>> the
      >>> one that Dr. Gibson examined, are known to contain carbon.
      >>>
      >>> Liquid water is no longer present at the surface, but it once was.
      >>> NASA's
      >>> Mars rover Opportunity found minerals, particularly an iron mineral
      >>> known
      >>> as jarosite, that require prolonged steeping in water to form. Images
      >>> from
      >>> spacecraft in orbit find signs that liquid water has burst onto the
      >>> surface in geologically recent times.
      >>>
      >>> Volcanic heat could provide the energy. The European Space Agency this
      >>> month released photographs of Mars' north pole that showed signs of ash
      >>> from eruptions.
      >>>
      >>> At the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference outside Houston this
      >>> month,
      >>> Lindsey S. Link, a graduate student at the University of Colorado,
      >>> presented calculations showing that even at temperatures not far above
      >>> freezing, chemical reactions between water and minerals in the basaltic
      >>> lavas of Martian bedrock could also generate energy for life to thrive
      >>> on.
      >>>
      >>> "It turns out there's quite a bit," Ms. Link said. "I think we're
      >>> learning
      >>> life doesn't need a lot more than rock and water, if it can get energy
      >>> from these reactions."
      >>>
      >>> But if life exists, how to find it?
      >>>
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