2338RE: [ufodiscussion] Icke's Shape-shifting Reptilians.
- Nov 4, 2004Oh Don... I think we agree...lol Yeah Icke says things that I figure would
cause him problems in the harassment arena as I get it when I start speaking
too clearly. Yet he lives on the Isle of Wight and somewhere I heard that
seems to be a major meeting place for reptilians, so it's rather odd...ok...
he does have some good information and I agree with some of the stuff he
says... Other stuff though like the Annunaki being reptillians I don't agree
with. Even if I hadn't talked to some, logic states otherwise...
Just for the record I have always questioned my new found friends as I
realize it would be simple for them to trick anyone. But really why would
they want to trick me? To what end? To me belief or what you believe is very
important as to what happens to you. I believe we attract possitive and
negative based on what we believe, only the reason most don't notice it is
because it isn't instantaneous... It is even different by person like for
some they can focus on something and forget about it and it might come to
them in three days, others it might be three months, etc. So to try and
prove it to someone is almost impossible. What I'm trying to get at here is
if you think that because they have the ability to control you, they will,
then they probably will if they feel like it. But who's responsibilty is
this??? It would be yours for putting the energy(thought) out there. That's
not to say that they wouldn't reap the Karma of their actions too, but I'm
refering only to your side here ok... So for myself, when I hear these
stories I have to wonder what they were thinking or doing to attract that
into their life. I tend to look at my responsibility within the
situation,for instance when I was laying in the sun in my backyard and
daydreaming and wondered to myself if I would ever get to meet the Sidhe...
Going to bed and being brought before them. "I Asked for it"... They didn't
take me, and in consideration they didn't leave my daughter who was young
there at home alone knowing I would worry about her. She was right there at
my side. So see, interpretation is the key. They aren't human and we have to
be open to the possiblity that there have been gross misinterpretations on
both our parts...
Now after reading the above, please tell me why you keep saying this:
"I won't argue with you about your benevolent encounters with ETs."
ha ha I was taught once that possitives and negatives cancel each other out
in your mind so that sentence really comes out,"I argue with you about your
benevolent encounters with ET's." lol
You don't have to agree with me Don, it's nice if we have some things we
agree on so we have stuff to discuss. OK... I realise I get into depth on
some stuff and really look at the details sometimes, but I'm really not
trying to force you to think the same way as me, rather I am trying to find
out if you and I are on the same wave length in regard to whatever we are
discussing. You or someone else will say something that doesn't quite click
but is close so I try to clarify it. I think we agree on quite a bit really,
it's just nuances that we disagree on...
From: DRxDON [mailto:drxdon@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Icke's Shape-shifting Reptilians.
I won't argue with you about your benevolent encounters with ETs. I
believe that you are telling the truth as you have experienced it. I
*your* truth could be THE truth, meaning that these ETs certainly were
and had no other alterior motives. I also believe that they *could* have
alterior motives and that they were just fooling you into having you think
were generally benevolent to humanity in general, just because they were
you. Again, Janet, I am not saying that I believe one of these scenarios
other; I just don't know, so I am NOT *accusing* you of anything. I,
just a more suspicious person by nature than you, I guess, and therefore I
suspicious than you on the nature of a lot of ETs' intentions toward us, but
nessarily all. I hope you can see that I am being open and honest with you
and accept what you say at face value.
I DID NOT "seem to have answered your(my) own question to me about me(you)".
you and Jeff seemed to agree that "the visitors" were peaceful, I was just
as to whether you felt this way about ALL visitors or was this just in
some or those that Icke talked about.
As for Icke, he has some ideas with which I "find commonality". I won't say
agree, because, like with myself, Icke's ideas are merely speculation,
promotes them as THE TRUTH. Some of his ideas, namely that ALL Reptilians
conspiratorial partners with our corrupt government, I do not *necessarily*
Mostly, I do not like Icke's viewpoints precisely because he IS an
extremist. He is
an extremist first because he FIRMLY *believes* that he KNOWS the "Truth"
are just his speculations. If he said that "these are my speculations and
in which I hold a great deal of truth", I wouldn't dismiss him. I always
try to preface
my own ideas in this way or at least make this clear in my presentations.
He is also
an extremist because he sees TOTAL "Evil" in his antagonistic ETs and some
"angelic" grace and beauty in his "Good Guys". This is a very polarized
view that has
poisoned most all Western religions. He also seems to flip-flop from one
position to another regarding what he "knows"(believes) is going on.
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