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  • Ted
    Oct 2, 2007
      Move...
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: shane eden
      To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:07 PM
      Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited


      Lucky you. There are no casinos here.

      :(

      >From: "Ted" <ufoazbk@...>
      >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited
      >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:32:47 -0700
      >
      >Got your message , but we were at the casino. I'll try today
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: shane eden
      > To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:39 AM
      > Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's revisited
      >
      >
      > Thank you, Regan. It's always a relief to see when someone is noticing.
      >Now
      > to get the other 10
      > million....................................................LOL, Shane.
      >
      > :oP
      >
      > >From: <masanga@...>
      > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      > >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0100
      > >
      > > Good luck on your efforts, Shane. It is good to see someone doing
      > >something positive.
      > >
      > > Regan
      > >
      > >
      > >----- Original Message -----
      > >From: shane eden
      > >To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      > >Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:15 PM
      > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      > >
      > >
      > >Helloooooooooooo Regan & Dex & everyone,
      > >At the risk of sounding redundant,
      > >my world tour (www.worldfreedomtourinfo.com) is one answer to the
      >problem
      > >of
      > >how to interest the people in finding out what the problems are, and
      > >working
      > >on remedies. Ignore-ance seems to be an earthly trait, but once the
      >mass
      > >population realizes that we are all connected, that we have common
      >enemies,
      > >that we have common aspirations, that in fact all the answers are right
      > >here
      > >right now, that only then can we begin traveling in the right direction
      > >(upward & onward). We cannot get bogged down in our own narrow
      > >paradigm......only an open door allows movement. Think of how quickly a
      > >daily worldwide audience will bring awareness to the UFO question (and
      >all
      > >others) and think of how pleased our 'watchers" will be to see we have
      > >finally begun to start really working together for the good of mankind.
      >As
      > >our friend Bill has reminded us, the truth will set us free. If we will
      > >just
      > >look at it.
      > >Peace, Shane.
      > >
      > >:(
      > >
      > > >From: <masanga@...>
      > > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      > > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      > > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      > > >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:38:29 +0100
      > > >
      > > > Dex,
      > > >
      > > > I know what you mean; I miss them too. But I think this is a bit
      > > >like grown up children missing their deceased parents really. The
      >benign
      > > >space beings and the contactees of the last century gave us something
      > >that
      > > >we needed then and we may love them for it, but now we need to move
      >on
      > > >without their help so as to complete our present phase of
      >development.
      > >Our
      > > >needs are different nowadays and those beings could not really help
      >us
      > >with
      > > >them even if they were still around in the external world anyway
      >(they
      > >are
      > > >still very much with us in spirit, on the inner-planes, of course). I
      > > >think
      > > >humanity is going through the difficult adolescant phase of its
      > >development
      > > >now, when it has to learn the vital skills of ego self-management
      >that it
      > > >needs to support its freedom and independence in the wider cosmic
      > >society.
      > > >Put simply, we are having to do a lot of growing up fast in
      >preparation
      > >for
      > > >cosmic citizenship. But we are not ripe for that yet.
      > > >
      > > > I think this transition is particularly difficult for us because
      > > >we
      > > >have inherited a world culture that is opposed to our making it and
      >which
      > > >is
      > > >trying to take us all back to what is for us a more primitive,
      >lawless
      > >and
      > > >barbaric age that the world was last in about 12 thousand years ago.
      >It
      > > >was
      > > >the age of the god-kings and goddess queens, when all power and
      >wealth
      > >was
      > > >centralised in the hands of the sovereign, who was held to be the
      > > >representative of heaven on earth. Today's nation-states have no such
      > > >sovereigns (except in name, in some cases) and the rise of the
      >Bush-junta
      > > >in
      > > >the modern USA can be viewed as an attempt to re-establish a centre
      >of
      > >such
      > > >absolute sovereignty on earth. There are deep and numerous historical
      > > >reasons for this happening which I will not go into right now. But we
      >may
      > > >see that it is a reactionary, retrogade step which must have painful
      > > >consequences for everyone in the end. It is as if a bunch of
      >fear-ridden
      > > >leaders of the human pack have come to the unanimous agreement that
      > >mature
      > > >freedom and self-responsible adulthood is a very bad thing for human
      > >beings
      > > >to have really and that the only safe and sensible thing to do is to
      >turn
      > > >all our biological clocks back to their beginnings and start all over
      > >again
      > > >from babyhood, so as to build up a new world civilization over which
      >they
      > > >can exercise total, absolute control via technology.
      > > >
      > > > I think the solution to our world's problem, which the neocons and
      > > >their cohorts in other countries have escalated into a crisis of
      >world
      > > >survival, lies in our ability to co-create a new world culture and
      > > >civilization that is based on a decentralised model of social and
      > >political
      > > >organisation. We already have the technology that can facilitate it
      >and
      > > >enable it to work. What we do not have - at least, not in the public
      > > >domain - is a well-thought out design for a thoroughly decentralised
      > >world
      > > >civilization and culture that could replace the reactionary, obsolete
      >one
      > > >which the neocons are currently installing and cementing into place.
      >They
      > > >want a new feudal world empire with them at the top of it and that is
      > >what
      > > >they are building. If it is not what we-the-people want too then
      > >evidently
      > > >it is down to us to create an alternative option that we prefer and
      >go
      > >for
      > > >it. At some point in the game, I think maturing out of adolescance
      >and
      > > >into
      > > >adulthood means assuming responsibility for creating our own reality
      >to
      > > >live
      > > >in. It is what the neocons say they are doing so they cannot blame us
      >for
      > > >following their example and doing it too.
      > > >
      > > > But this is something that I believe we have to do by ourselves
      > > >and
      > > >without any material help from ETs, no matter how benign they may be,
      > > >because it is fundamentally a matter of us as a large group (some 6
      > >billion
      > > >strong and counting) making our own free choices and decisions about
      >our
      > > >own
      > > >evolutionary destiny. ETs cannot do our growing up for us and nor
      >would
      > > >the
      > > >more mature ones want to, I think. I suspect that this is the basic
      > >reason
      > > >for their having quit centre-stage and are now watching from the
      >wings.
      > > >
      > > > Regan
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >----- Original Message -----
      > > >From: Dex
      > > >To: UFOdiscussion
      > > >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:38 PM
      > > >Subject: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >Bill,
      > > >Even though I can't 'substantiate' this, I'd like to say I know how
      >you
      > > >feel.
      > > >
      > > >Regan
      > > >
      > > >I have been feeling burnt about all the negative stuff in the world
      >and
      > >the
      > > >depressing interference from both the Intelligence communities and
      >the
      > > >opposing disclosure ET factions.
      > > >Our Adamic specie is more my resonance. Boy! Do I miss those days.
      > > >Lucky Bill, he had the privilege of meeting some of the very special
      >feel
      > > >good people that obviously, space folks shared a common interest in
      >them
      > > >too.
      > > >
      > > >I keep asking for more of their personal positive energy
      >interjection.
      > >The
      > > >Contacts. I miss their guiding messages of common sense and ideas for
      >how
      > > >we
      > > >can to do things a better way.
      > > >I hope it's still permitted these other world medical groups can
      >continue
      > > >assisting us.
      > > >A compassion and concern I can relate too.
      > > >
      > > >Dex
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
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