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  • shane eden
    Oct 1, 2007
      Thank you, Regan. It's always a relief to see when someone is noticing. Now
      to get the other 10
      million....................................................LOL, Shane.


      >From: <masanga@...>
      >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      >Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0100
      > Good luck on your efforts, Shane. It is good to see someone doing
      >something positive.
      > Regan
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: shane eden
      >To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      >Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:15 PM
      >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      >Helloooooooooooo Regan & Dex & everyone,
      >At the risk of sounding redundant,
      >my world tour (www.worldfreedomtourinfo.com) is one answer to the problem
      >how to interest the people in finding out what the problems are, and
      >on remedies. Ignore-ance seems to be an earthly trait, but once the mass
      >population realizes that we are all connected, that we have common enemies,
      >that we have common aspirations, that in fact all the answers are right
      >right now, that only then can we begin traveling in the right direction
      >(upward & onward). We cannot get bogged down in our own narrow
      >paradigm......only an open door allows movement. Think of how quickly a
      >daily worldwide audience will bring awareness to the UFO question (and all
      >others) and think of how pleased our 'watchers" will be to see we have
      >finally begun to start really working together for the good of mankind. As
      >our friend Bill has reminded us, the truth will set us free. If we will
      >look at it.
      >Peace, Shane.
      > >From: <masanga@...>
      > >Reply-To: ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com
      > >To: <ufodiscussion@yahoogroups.com>
      > >Subject: Re: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      > >Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:38:29 +0100
      > >
      > > Dex,
      > >
      > > I know what you mean; I miss them too. But I think this is a bit
      > >like grown up children missing their deceased parents really. The benign
      > >space beings and the contactees of the last century gave us something
      > >we needed then and we may love them for it, but now we need to move on
      > >without their help so as to complete our present phase of development.
      > >needs are different nowadays and those beings could not really help us
      > >them even if they were still around in the external world anyway (they
      > >still very much with us in spirit, on the inner-planes, of course). I
      > >think
      > >humanity is going through the difficult adolescant phase of its
      > >now, when it has to learn the vital skills of ego self-management that it
      > >needs to support its freedom and independence in the wider cosmic
      > >Put simply, we are having to do a lot of growing up fast in preparation
      > >cosmic citizenship. But we are not ripe for that yet.
      > >
      > > I think this transition is particularly difficult for us because
      > >we
      > >have inherited a world culture that is opposed to our making it and which
      > >is
      > >trying to take us all back to what is for us a more primitive, lawless
      > >barbaric age that the world was last in about 12 thousand years ago. It
      > >was
      > >the age of the god-kings and goddess queens, when all power and wealth
      > >centralised in the hands of the sovereign, who was held to be the
      > >representative of heaven on earth. Today's nation-states have no such
      > >sovereigns (except in name, in some cases) and the rise of the Bush-junta
      > >in
      > >the modern USA can be viewed as an attempt to re-establish a centre of
      > >absolute sovereignty on earth. There are deep and numerous historical
      > >reasons for this happening which I will not go into right now. But we may
      > >see that it is a reactionary, retrogade step which must have painful
      > >consequences for everyone in the end. It is as if a bunch of fear-ridden
      > >leaders of the human pack have come to the unanimous agreement that
      > >freedom and self-responsible adulthood is a very bad thing for human
      > >to have really and that the only safe and sensible thing to do is to turn
      > >all our biological clocks back to their beginnings and start all over
      > >from babyhood, so as to build up a new world civilization over which they
      > >can exercise total, absolute control via technology.
      > >
      > > I think the solution to our world's problem, which the neocons and
      > >their cohorts in other countries have escalated into a crisis of world
      > >survival, lies in our ability to co-create a new world culture and
      > >civilization that is based on a decentralised model of social and
      > >organisation. We already have the technology that can facilitate it and
      > >enable it to work. What we do not have - at least, not in the public
      > >domain - is a well-thought out design for a thoroughly decentralised
      > >civilization and culture that could replace the reactionary, obsolete one
      > >which the neocons are currently installing and cementing into place. They
      > >want a new feudal world empire with them at the top of it and that is
      > >they are building. If it is not what we-the-people want too then
      > >it is down to us to create an alternative option that we prefer and go
      > >it. At some point in the game, I think maturing out of adolescance and
      > >into
      > >adulthood means assuming responsibility for creating our own reality to
      > >live
      > >in. It is what the neocons say they are doing so they cannot blame us for
      > >following their example and doing it too.
      > >
      > > But this is something that I believe we have to do by ourselves
      > >and
      > >without any material help from ETs, no matter how benign they may be,
      > >because it is fundamentally a matter of us as a large group (some 6
      > >strong and counting) making our own free choices and decisions about our
      > >own
      > >evolutionary destiny. ETs cannot do our growing up for us and nor would
      > >the
      > >more mature ones want to, I think. I suspect that this is the basic
      > >for their having quit centre-stage and are now watching from the wings.
      > >
      > > Regan
      > >
      > >
      > >----- Original Message -----
      > >From: Dex
      > >To: UFOdiscussion
      > >Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:38 PM
      > >Subject: [ufodiscussion] Opinion's
      > >
      > >
      > >Bill,
      > >Even though I can't 'substantiate' this, I'd like to say I know how you
      > >feel.
      > >
      > >Regan
      > >
      > >I have been feeling burnt about all the negative stuff in the world and
      > >depressing interference from both the Intelligence communities and the
      > >opposing disclosure ET factions.
      > >Our Adamic specie is more my resonance. Boy! Do I miss those days.
      > >Lucky Bill, he had the privilege of meeting some of the very special feel
      > >good people that obviously, space folks shared a common interest in them
      > >too.
      > >
      > >I keep asking for more of their personal positive energy interjection.
      > >Contacts. I miss their guiding messages of common sense and ideas for how
      > >we
      > >can to do things a better way.
      > >I hope it's still permitted these other world medical groups can continue
      > >assisting us.
      > >A compassion and concern I can relate too.
      > >
      > >Dex
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