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  • John Fiorentino
    I m working on this in the very early AM here.....Actually BEFORE my coffee......whoaa, you don t want to know me before my coffee...... :-(....anyway here
    Message 1 of 4 , Aug 5, 2001
      I'm working on this in the very early AM here.....Actually BEFORE my coffee......whoaa, you don't want to know me before my coffee...... :-(....anyway here goes:.....I'm going to run down some of my notes, and then later, I'll post some of what my feelings were.....I hope everyone will do the same:

      (Please note before I begin some of the spellings of people's names may be incorrect, I tried my best phonetically)

      WABC Radio Show 9pm esdt to 1am esdt...8/4/01--8/5/01-- Subject: TWA Flight 800

      Studio Guests: Jack Cashill, James Sanders, Don Nibert, Mike Wire

      Telephone callers: Paul Angelides, Joyce Campbell, Joel Santistabon, "Tom" Al Mundo, Ray Lahr, Glen Schulze, Howard Mann, Eric Shawn, "Judith"
      somebody, (I failed to get her last name)
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      Joel Santistabon.......WABC reporter......Spoke with 9 witnesses and 1 official w/in the first hour......he arrived ahead of the FBI......ALL the witnesses indicated the same thing......"a bright object going straight up"....then the subsequent fireball........Interviewed Paul Cole the Center Moriches Fire Chief....he was on his boat at the time........he had the same observation......general consensus was some type of missile.

      Don Nibert, Montoursville, Pa. Daughter was killed aboard Fl. 800..........Had "paranormal" experience PRIOR to his daughter's death......Same evening.....approx an hour before he learned of the tragedy.......His mother who had been dead for 3 years at the time....."spoke to him"....and stated Cheryl (his daughter) was "OK"....she was now with her.........Then subsequently had a "dream" while he was staying at the Ramada Inn where he was summoned to NY to view (ID) the body of his daughter......In the dream he saw "a missile"....."a sub".....and a "smaller boat".........believes a missile downed the plane, no opinion on whether it was "friendly fire" or a terrorist.

      Mire Wire........(Witness)......Upon whom the CIA reportedly relied in the making of their video.......Discussion of 4/30/1999 NTSB document...which was effectively an interrogation of CIA analysts (unnamed)......Indicating the FBI re-interviewed Wire approx. a year after the event for a 3rd time.

      Mike Wire states:..."sonic booms" shook his house..several seconds of "rolling thunder"....followed by several loud reports...the CIA "manufactured the 3rd interview".........the video cartoon was NOT representative of what he saw.........his conclusion.....(missile)

      "Tom".....did not divlge his last name.......skipper of a small research vessel in the area........comments:...."there was no moon"......beaches were mostly empty.....assisted in the recovery efforts......a "perfect night for a covert-op"

      Paul Angelides.......sound of explosions "shook his home".......witnessed flare like object.....some commotion on the water, appeared to be a "boat light".....didn't see where the flare like object originated.....gave a sketch to the FBI.......which is now "missing"

      Joyce Campbell (Traveling Press Secretary to Bob Dole).....thinks a missile scenario would have had a "monumental impact on the election"

      Al Mundo......Flight engineer on board Fl. 881....(Athens to NY)....later that evening of course Fl. 800.....stated it was in his opinion NOT AN ACCIDENT....related his story of April 1995 when lightning struck the same aircraft......blowing off 20-25 sq. feet of the right wing skin......(accident maintenance reports have "disappeared").....talked about the missing faring which equated into approx. 2-3 thousand lbs of additional fuel consumption per flight due to drag....wanted it fixed..thinks the CIA representation is a joke...."doesn't know ANYONE at TWA who thinks it was an accident"

      Glen Schulze.....reviewed the FDR data......4 seconds are missing.........external pressure event accounted for the instrument readings.

      Ray Lahr.........Discussed the Russell tape......also the Boeing, CIA, NTSB......doubletalk re: the data used by the CIA to produce it's cartoon.......thinks the 3,000 ft ascent after the nose was blown off is "impossible"

      Eric Shawn Fox TV News producer........leans toward a mechanical failure.....but admits he cannot "reconcile"......witness reports and other data with a mechanical failure.........thinks the subject definitely needs more investigating

      "Judith" somebody, I believe from the State Department....indicated the entire "east coast" was on "high alert" at the time of the tragedy.......stated it would be "hard, but not impossible"......to smuggle stingers in thru Canada.
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      Other brief remarks:............."the Navy DID NOT shoot down the plane".....this statement was unchallenged by either Sanders or Cashill......Airforce 1 was supposedly "upgraded" (countermeasures) ist quarter of 1997 re: it's ability to deal with "stingers"....(manpads).....Jack Cashill sees Kallstrom as a "tortured individual"......he was the ONLY one to say this..........the rest of the remarks by others were quite "anti-Kallstrom".........I don't believe Jim Hall's name was mentioned once.

      MORE LATER






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    • tj
      John, You have a mis-quote there somehow, Mike Wire was not at his house, he was at work on a bridge, (?Beach Lane?) the quote rolling thunder, and shook the
      Message 2 of 4 , Aug 5, 2001
        John,

        You have a mis-quote there somehow, Mike Wire was not at his house, he was
        at work on a bridge, (?Beach Lane?) the quote rolling thunder, and shook the
        house sounds like Paul Angelides - his wife called out 'What was that'?

        Mike Wire did say one of the explosions shook the bridge.

        Put it down to the lack of coffee! :-)

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: John Fiorentino <jstonemusic@...>
        To: <twa800@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:33 PM
        Subject: [twa800] Report on WABC Radio show #1


        > I'm working on this in the very early AM here.....Actually BEFORE my
        coffee......whoaa, you don't want to know me before my coffee......
        :-(....anyway here goes:.....I'm going to run down some of my notes, and
        then later, I'll post some of what my feelings were.....I hope everyone will
        do the same:
        >
        > (Please note before I begin some of the spellings of people's names may be
        incorrect, I tried my best phonetically)
        >
        > WABC Radio Show 9pm esdt to 1am esdt...8/4/01--8/5/01-- Subject: TWA
        Flight 800
        >
        > Studio Guests: Jack Cashill, James Sanders, Don Nibert, Mike Wire
        >
        > Telephone callers: Paul Angelides, Joyce Campbell, Joel Santistabon, "Tom"
        Al Mundo, Ray Lahr, Glen Schulze, Howard Mann, Eric Shawn, "Judith"
        > somebody, (I failed to get her last name)
        > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        > Joel Santistabon.......WABC reporter......Spoke with 9 witnesses and 1
        official w/in the first hour......he arrived ahead of the FBI......ALL the
        witnesses indicated the same thing......"a bright object going straight
        up"....then the subsequent fireball........Interviewed Paul Cole the Center
        Moriches Fire Chief....he was on his boat at the time........he had the same
        observation......general consensus was some type of missile.
        >
        > Don Nibert, Montoursville, Pa. Daughter was killed aboard Fl.
        800..........Had "paranormal" experience PRIOR to his daughter's
        death......Same evening.....approx an hour before he learned of the
        tragedy.......His mother who had been dead for 3 years at the
        time....."spoke to him"....and stated Cheryl (his daughter) was "OK"....she
        was now with her.........Then subsequently had a "dream" while he was
        staying at the Ramada Inn where he was summoned to NY to view (ID) the body
        of his daughter......In the dream he saw "a missile"....."a sub".....and a
        "smaller boat".........believes a missile downed the plane, no opinion on
        whether it was "friendly fire" or a terrorist.
        >
        > Mire Wire........(Witness)......Upon whom the CIA reportedly relied in the
        making of their video.......Discussion of 4/30/1999 NTSB document...which
        was effectively an interrogation of CIA analysts (unnamed)......Indicating
        the FBI re-interviewed Wire approx. a year after the event for a 3rd time.
        >
        > Mike Wire states:..."sonic booms" shook his house..several seconds of
        "rolling thunder"....followed by several loud reports...the CIA
        "manufactured the 3rd interview".........the video cartoon was NOT
        representative of what he saw.........his conclusion.....(missile)
        >
        > "Tom".....did not divlge his last name.......skipper of a small research
        vessel in the area........comments:...."there was no moon"......beaches were
        mostly empty.....assisted in the recovery efforts......a "perfect night for
        a covert-op"
        >
        > Paul Angelides.......sound of explosions "shook his home".......witnessed
        flare like object.....some commotion on the water, appeared to be a "boat
        light".....didn't see where the flare like object originated.....gave a
        sketch to the FBI.......which is now "missing"
        >
        > Joyce Campbell (Traveling Press Secretary to Bob Dole).....thinks a
        missile scenario would have had a "monumental impact on the election"
        >
        > Al Mundo......Flight engineer on board Fl. 881....(Athens to NY)....later
        that evening of course Fl. 800.....stated it was in his opinion NOT AN
        ACCIDENT....related his story of April 1995 when lightning struck the same
        aircraft......blowing off 20-25 sq. feet of the right wing
        skin......(accident maintenance reports have "disappeared").....talked about
        the missing faring which equated into approx. 2-3 thousand lbs of additional
        fuel consumption per flight due to drag....wanted it fixed..thinks the CIA
        representation is a joke...."doesn't know ANYONE at TWA who thinks it was an
        accident"
        >
        > Glen Schulze.....reviewed the FDR data......4 seconds are
        missing.........external pressure event accounted for the instrument
        readings.
        >
        > Ray Lahr.........Discussed the Russell tape......also the Boeing, CIA,
        NTSB......doubletalk re: the data used by the CIA to produce it's
        cartoon.......thinks the 3,000 ft ascent after the nose was blown off is
        "impossible"
        >
        > Eric Shawn Fox TV News producer........leans toward a mechanical
        failure.....but admits he cannot "reconcile"......witness reports and other
        data with a mechanical failure.........thinks the subject definitely needs
        more investigating
        >
        > "Judith" somebody, I believe from the State Department....indicated the
        entire "east coast" was on "high alert" at the time of the
        tragedy.......stated it would be "hard, but not impossible"......to smuggle
        stingers in thru Canada.
        > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        > Other brief remarks:............."the Navy DID NOT shoot down the
        plane".....this statement was unchallenged by either Sanders or
        Cashill......Airforce 1 was supposedly "upgraded" (countermeasures) ist
        quarter of 1997 re: it's ability to deal with
        "stingers"....(manpads).....Jack Cashill sees Kallstrom as a "tortured
        individual"......he was the ONLY one to say this..........the rest of the
        remarks by others were quite "anti-Kallstrom".........I don't believe Jim
        Hall's name was mentioned once.
        >
        > MORE LATER
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        >
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      • John Fiorentino
        Yes, he did say he was working on a bridge.......Sorry, it was the coffee.......actually my muddled notes........REALLY can t blame the coffee..........It s in
        Message 3 of 4 , Aug 5, 2001
          Yes, he did say he was working on a bridge.......Sorry, it was the coffee.......actually my muddled notes........REALLY can't blame the coffee..........It's in the notes however, I am awake now....... :-) .......He DID say rolling thunder however, indicating for approx 15 seconds?...............also......."sonic booms"............Angelides merely said........."explosions"
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: tj
          To: twa800@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 8:21 AM
          Subject: Re: [twa800] Report on WABC Radio show #1


          John,

          You have a mis-quote there somehow, Mike Wire was not at his house, he was
          at work on a bridge, (?Beach Lane?) the quote rolling thunder, and shook the
          house sounds like Paul Angelides - his wife called out 'What was that'?

          Mike Wire did say one of the explosions shook the bridge.

          Put it down to the lack of coffee! :-)

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: John Fiorentino <jstonemusic@...>
          To: <twa800@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:33 PM
          Subject: [twa800] Report on WABC Radio show #1


          > I'm working on this in the very early AM here.....Actually BEFORE my
          coffee......whoaa, you don't want to know me before my coffee......
          :-(....anyway here goes:.....I'm going to run down some of my notes, and
          then later, I'll post some of what my feelings were.....I hope everyone will
          do the same:
          >
          > (Please note before I begin some of the spellings of people's names may be
          incorrect, I tried my best phonetically)
          >
          > WABC Radio Show 9pm esdt to 1am esdt...8/4/01--8/5/01-- Subject: TWA
          Flight 800
          >
          > Studio Guests: Jack Cashill, James Sanders, Don Nibert, Mike Wire
          >
          > Telephone callers: Paul Angelides, Joyce Campbell, Joel Santistabon, "Tom"
          Al Mundo, Ray Lahr, Glen Schulze, Howard Mann, Eric Shawn, "Judith"
          > somebody, (I failed to get her last name)
          > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          > Joel Santistabon.......WABC reporter......Spoke with 9 witnesses and 1
          official w/in the first hour......he arrived ahead of the FBI......ALL the
          witnesses indicated the same thing......"a bright object going straight
          up"....then the subsequent fireball........Interviewed Paul Cole the Center
          Moriches Fire Chief....he was on his boat at the time........he had the same
          observation......general consensus was some type of missile.
          >
          > Don Nibert, Montoursville, Pa. Daughter was killed aboard Fl.
          800..........Had "paranormal" experience PRIOR to his daughter's
          death......Same evening.....approx an hour before he learned of the
          tragedy.......His mother who had been dead for 3 years at the
          time....."spoke to him"....and stated Cheryl (his daughter) was "OK"....she
          was now with her.........Then subsequently had a "dream" while he was
          staying at the Ramada Inn where he was summoned to NY to view (ID) the body
          of his daughter......In the dream he saw "a missile"....."a sub".....and a
          "smaller boat".........believes a missile downed the plane, no opinion on
          whether it was "friendly fire" or a terrorist.
          >
          > Mire Wire........(Witness)......Upon whom the CIA reportedly relied in the
          making of their video.......Discussion of 4/30/1999 NTSB document...which
          was effectively an interrogation of CIA analysts (unnamed)......Indicating
          the FBI re-interviewed Wire approx. a year after the event for a 3rd time.
          >
          > Mike Wire states:..."sonic booms" shook his house..several seconds of
          "rolling thunder"....followed by several loud reports...the CIA
          "manufactured the 3rd interview".........the video cartoon was NOT
          representative of what he saw.........his conclusion.....(missile)
          >
          > "Tom".....did not divlge his last name.......skipper of a small research
          vessel in the area........comments:...."there was no moon"......beaches were
          mostly empty.....assisted in the recovery efforts......a "perfect night for
          a covert-op"
          >
          > Paul Angelides.......sound of explosions "shook his home".......witnessed
          flare like object.....some commotion on the water, appeared to be a "boat
          light".....didn't see where the flare like object originated.....gave a
          sketch to the FBI.......which is now "missing"
          >
          > Joyce Campbell (Traveling Press Secretary to Bob Dole).....thinks a
          missile scenario would have had a "monumental impact on the election"
          >
          > Al Mundo......Flight engineer on board Fl. 881....(Athens to NY)....later
          that evening of course Fl. 800.....stated it was in his opinion NOT AN
          ACCIDENT....related his story of April 1995 when lightning struck the same
          aircraft......blowing off 20-25 sq. feet of the right wing
          skin......(accident maintenance reports have "disappeared").....talked about
          the missing faring which equated into approx. 2-3 thousand lbs of additional
          fuel consumption per flight due to drag....wanted it fixed..thinks the CIA
          representation is a joke...."doesn't know ANYONE at TWA who thinks it was an
          accident"
          >
          > Glen Schulze.....reviewed the FDR data......4 seconds are
          missing.........external pressure event accounted for the instrument
          readings.
          >
          > Ray Lahr.........Discussed the Russell tape......also the Boeing, CIA,
          NTSB......doubletalk re: the data used by the CIA to produce it's
          cartoon.......thinks the 3,000 ft ascent after the nose was blown off is
          "impossible"
          >
          > Eric Shawn Fox TV News producer........leans toward a mechanical
          failure.....but admits he cannot "reconcile"......witness reports and other
          data with a mechanical failure.........thinks the subject definitely needs
          more investigating
          >
          > "Judith" somebody, I believe from the State Department....indicated the
          entire "east coast" was on "high alert" at the time of the
          tragedy.......stated it would be "hard, but not impossible"......to smuggle
          stingers in thru Canada.
          > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          > Other brief remarks:............."the Navy DID NOT shoot down the
          plane".....this statement was unchallenged by either Sanders or
          Cashill......Airforce 1 was supposedly "upgraded" (countermeasures) ist
          quarter of 1997 re: it's ability to deal with
          "stingers"....(manpads).....Jack Cashill sees Kallstrom as a "tortured
          individual"......he was the ONLY one to say this..........the rest of the
          remarks by others were quite "anti-Kallstrom".........I don't believe Jim
          Hall's name was mentioned once.
          >
          > MORE LATER
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          >
          >
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        • tj
          John, I m sure Angelides also described thunder in his statement on Bill Donaldsons interim report. His audible memories always sounded compelling to me, more
          Message 4 of 4 , Aug 5, 2001
            John,

            I'm sure Angelides also described thunder in his statement on Bill
            Donaldsons interim report.

            His audible memories always sounded compelling to me, more so than many of
            the visual sightings. What he described was not a CWT explosion followed by
            the MF sounds.......

            tj

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: John Fiorentino <jstonemusic@...>
            To: <twa800@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 1:32 PM
            Subject: Re: [twa800] Report on WABC Radio show #1


            > Yes, he did say he was working on a bridge.......Sorry, it was the
            coffee.......actually my muddled notes........REALLY can't blame the
            coffee..........It's in the notes however, I am awake now....... :-)
            .......He DID say rolling thunder however, indicating for approx 15
            seconds?...............also......."sonic booms"............Angelides merely
            said........."explosions"
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: tj
            > To: twa800@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 8:21 AM
            > Subject: Re: [twa800] Report on WABC Radio show #1
            >
            >
            > John,
            >
            > You have a mis-quote there somehow, Mike Wire was not at his house, he
            was
            > at work on a bridge, (?Beach Lane?) the quote rolling thunder, and shook
            the
            > house sounds like Paul Angelides - his wife called out 'What was that'?
            >
            > Mike Wire did say one of the explosions shook the bridge.
            >
            > Put it down to the lack of coffee! :-)
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: John Fiorentino <jstonemusic@...>
            > To: <twa800@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:33 PM
            > Subject: [twa800] Report on WABC Radio show #1
            >
            >
            > > I'm working on this in the very early AM here.....Actually BEFORE my
            > coffee......whoaa, you don't want to know me before my coffee......
            > :-(....anyway here goes:.....I'm going to run down some of my notes, and
            > then later, I'll post some of what my feelings were.....I hope everyone
            will
            > do the same:
            > >
            > > (Please note before I begin some of the spellings of people's names
            may be
            > incorrect, I tried my best phonetically)
            > >
            > > WABC Radio Show 9pm esdt to 1am esdt...8/4/01--8/5/01-- Subject: TWA
            > Flight 800
            > >
            > > Studio Guests: Jack Cashill, James Sanders, Don Nibert, Mike Wire
            > >
            > > Telephone callers: Paul Angelides, Joyce Campbell, Joel Santistabon,
            "Tom"
            > Al Mundo, Ray Lahr, Glen Schulze, Howard Mann, Eric Shawn, "Judith"
            > > somebody, (I failed to get her last name)
            > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
            > > Joel Santistabon.......WABC reporter......Spoke with 9 witnesses and 1
            > official w/in the first hour......he arrived ahead of the FBI......ALL
            the
            > witnesses indicated the same thing......"a bright object going straight
            > up"....then the subsequent fireball........Interviewed Paul Cole the
            Center
            > Moriches Fire Chief....he was on his boat at the time........he had the
            same
            > observation......general consensus was some type of missile.
            > >
            > > Don Nibert, Montoursville, Pa. Daughter was killed aboard Fl.
            > 800..........Had "paranormal" experience PRIOR to his daughter's
            > death......Same evening.....approx an hour before he learned of the
            > tragedy.......His mother who had been dead for 3 years at the
            > time....."spoke to him"....and stated Cheryl (his daughter) was
            "OK"....she
            > was now with her.........Then subsequently had a "dream" while he was
            > staying at the Ramada Inn where he was summoned to NY to view (ID) the
            body
            > of his daughter......In the dream he saw "a missile"....."a sub".....and
            a
            > "smaller boat".........believes a missile downed the plane, no opinion
            on
            > whether it was "friendly fire" or a terrorist.
            > >
            > > Mire Wire........(Witness)......Upon whom the CIA reportedly relied in
            the
            > making of their video.......Discussion of 4/30/1999 NTSB
            document...which
            > was effectively an interrogation of CIA analysts
            (unnamed)......Indicating
            > the FBI re-interviewed Wire approx. a year after the event for a 3rd
            time.
            > >
            > > Mike Wire states:..."sonic booms" shook his house..several seconds of
            > "rolling thunder"....followed by several loud reports...the CIA
            > "manufactured the 3rd interview".........the video cartoon was NOT
            > representative of what he saw.........his conclusion.....(missile)
            > >
            > > "Tom".....did not divlge his last name.......skipper of a small
            research
            > vessel in the area........comments:...."there was no moon"......beaches
            were
            > mostly empty.....assisted in the recovery efforts......a "perfect night
            for
            > a covert-op"
            > >
            > > Paul Angelides.......sound of explosions "shook his
            home".......witnessed
            > flare like object.....some commotion on the water, appeared to be a
            "boat
            > light".....didn't see where the flare like object originated.....gave a
            > sketch to the FBI.......which is now "missing"
            > >
            > > Joyce Campbell (Traveling Press Secretary to Bob Dole).....thinks a
            > missile scenario would have had a "monumental impact on the election"
            > >
            > > Al Mundo......Flight engineer on board Fl. 881....(Athens to
            NY)....later
            > that evening of course Fl. 800.....stated it was in his opinion NOT AN
            > ACCIDENT....related his story of April 1995 when lightning struck the
            same
            > aircraft......blowing off 20-25 sq. feet of the right wing
            > skin......(accident maintenance reports have "disappeared").....talked
            about
            > the missing faring which equated into approx. 2-3 thousand lbs of
            additional
            > fuel consumption per flight due to drag....wanted it fixed..thinks the
            CIA
            > representation is a joke...."doesn't know ANYONE at TWA who thinks it
            was an
            > accident"
            > >
            > > Glen Schulze.....reviewed the FDR data......4 seconds are
            > missing.........external pressure event accounted for the instrument
            > readings.
            > >
            > > Ray Lahr.........Discussed the Russell tape......also the Boeing,
            CIA,
            > NTSB......doubletalk re: the data used by the CIA to produce it's
            > cartoon.......thinks the 3,000 ft ascent after the nose was blown off is
            > "impossible"
            > >
            > > Eric Shawn Fox TV News producer........leans toward a mechanical
            > failure.....but admits he cannot "reconcile"......witness reports and
            other
            > data with a mechanical failure.........thinks the subject definitely
            needs
            > more investigating
            > >
            > > "Judith" somebody, I believe from the State Department....indicated
            the
            > entire "east coast" was on "high alert" at the time of the
            > tragedy.......stated it would be "hard, but not impossible"......to
            smuggle
            > stingers in thru Canada.
            > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
            > > Other brief remarks:............."the Navy DID NOT shoot down the
            > plane".....this statement was unchallenged by either Sanders or
            > Cashill......Airforce 1 was supposedly "upgraded" (countermeasures) ist
            > quarter of 1997 re: it's ability to deal with
            > "stingers"....(manpads).....Jack Cashill sees Kallstrom as a "tortured
            > individual"......he was the ONLY one to say this..........the rest of
            the
            > remarks by others were quite "anti-Kallstrom".........I don't believe
            Jim
            > Hall's name was mentioned once.
            > >
            > > MORE LATER
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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            http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
            > >
            > >
            > >
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