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Re: More on harry

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  • wallyesterpaulrus
    ... What s CE? ... of ... Something compatible with 41 seems more likely. Does this suggest anything: http://www.sonic-arts.org/td/erlich/partchpblock.htm ?
    Message 1 of 4 , May 4, 2004
      --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:

      > It has a CE
      > scale of 58 notes,

      What's CE?

      > which is not beyond the range of possibilities of a
      > quasi-Partchian ensemble. I'm not suggesting harry is the best way
      of
      > tempering Genesis,

      Something compatible with 41 seems more likely.

      Does this suggest anything:

      http://www.sonic-arts.org/td/erlich/partchpblock.htm

      ?
    • Gene Ward Smith
      ... A typo for DE. ... way ... Since the Genesis scale has 43 notes, one point of view would simply reject that idea out of hand. Both harry and miracle are
      Message 2 of 4 , May 4, 2004
        --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "wallyesterpaulrus" <paul@s...>
        wrote:
        > --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...>
        wrote:
        >
        > > It has a CE
        > > scale of 58 notes,
        >
        > What's CE?

        A typo for DE.

        > > which is not beyond the range of possibilities of a
        > > quasi-Partchian ensemble. I'm not suggesting harry is the best
        way
        > of
        > > tempering Genesis,
        >
        > Something compatible with 41 seems more likely.

        Since the Genesis scale has 43 notes, one point of view would simply
        reject that idea out of hand. Both harry and miracle are compatible
        with 72, which does a better job as a replacement for JI than 41-et,
        for that matter.

        > Does this suggest anything:
        >
        > http://www.sonic-arts.org/td/erlich/partchpblock.htm

        It suggests that's one possibility out of many. If I add a 126/125,
        176/175 or 896/891 to a comma basis of harry, I get commas for
        Fokker blocks leading to 58 notes to the octave, which we could also
        compare to Genesis if we want to go that route. I still like using
        58 notes of 202 equal pretty well. It has a Graham complexity of 34,
        which means there's plenty going on harmonically, and the 7-limit
        part of that is all under a cent of error, which is good stuff. Of
        course Studloco seems like a damned good alternative. Whether anyone
        would want to form a Partchian ensemble along these lines is another
        question.
      • Gene Ward Smith
        ... 126/125, ... also ... The following 11-limit TM bases might be of interest: 41: {100/99, 225/224, 243/242, 245/242} 58: {126/125, 176/175, 243/242,
        Message 3 of 4 , May 5, 2004
          --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...>
          wrote:


          > It suggests that's one possibility out of many. If I add a
          126/125,
          > 176/175 or 896/891 to a comma basis of harry, I get commas for
          > Fokker blocks leading to 58 notes to the octave, which we could
          also
          > compare to Genesis if we want to go that route.

          The following 11-limit TM bases might be of interest:

          41: {100/99, 225/224, 243/242, 245/242}

          58: {126/125, 176/175, 243/242, 896/891}

          Taking 126/125, 176/175 and 243/242 together gives nonkleismic; I
          don't have a name for the 100/99, 225/224, 243/242 temperament.
          These temperaments are not as accurate as harry or miracle, and this
          is something to bear in mind if you are hoping to get an acceptable
          substitution for JI.
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