FW: water pulse jet turbine engine
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From: Dr1946olson@... [mailto:Dr1946olson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: water pulse jet turbine engine
In a message dated 3/1/2005 9:57:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Greetings... do you mind if I share this info with our group tt-forum?
From: Dr1946olson@... [mailto:Dr1946olson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:34 PM
Subject: water pulse jet turbine engine
I was just looking at your team work on steam. I have always loved
steam engines and applications and have been trying to figure out a kind of
Stirling Engine and Steam Engine cross, using hot air and hot water, etc,
trying to come up with something that doesn't need a boiler and thus safer
the best ideas I came up with are:
1. use a coiled copper tubing boiler fed with a gravity feed and run
a turbine wheel for power.
2. I liked Ben Franklin's Water Pulse Jet engine, but can't find info
on it anywhere anymore. ??? why? anyway I remember it quite well from
looking at it with a list of his inventions probably 40 years ago.
essentially it was a boiler, (think 55 gallon oil drum for today's use) and
a copper tubing coming out of the bottom and looped up over the height of
the barrel to stop gravity flow of the water out, and back down and out the
back of the boat. now you light a fire under the "drum, or boiler" and it
heats up and expands under steam pressure forcing the water out the tubing
in a pulse. then it recycles and does it again. the hotter the fire the
faster the pulses. my modification is to bring the tubing up to another
barrel above the boiler and mount a "bucket turbine wheel" over the second
barrel and turn that with the flow of water from the pulsed water from the
boiler. the bigger the diameter of the turbine wheel the more "torque" the
more torque power to turn things like a generator or alternator, a water
pump, a mill , or what ever. think about it. a engine a farmer could love
with one moving part, the water or two if you count the turbine. one
bearing there at the turbine. wow. why no one ever thought of it and
published it before? ha. use whatever you can find in the backyard for
fuel. Cheap? free? don't tell the oil companies they will stop you from
using their used oil drums. ha.
not at all, I wish you would.
also I want to tell you something else. I found a website last year
called halfbakery.com a place to discuss your "half baked ideas". and that
is what I saw in their. I saw a note where a guy talked about making a full
sized "put-put" engine like in the little toy boats, and he was talking
about using the electric coil from a toaster and a bunch of batteries. I
told him why don't you put a pot under it and burn twigs and such from your
back yard and you could put the coils on a hinged rig so you could just tilt
it up 90degrees and off the fire when you want it to stop. I also mentioned
the Franklin water pulse jet engine and my addition of a turbine to make it
into a farm yard power all engine, etc, and you know I checked right away
and my notes were there. I came back and checked the next day to see if
anyone had a comment on my comments and the damn site was "down". I wrote
an email to the webmaster since I had his address since I had to apply for a
code and password to comment there. He said "our disc ate it". so I kept
checking back and off and on and about 6 weeks later it was back up and when
I checked everything was the same but my comments were gone. after some
thought I realized that the site was probably a trap for people to apply
ideas and if they thought any were applicable to any practical use they snap
it up and it will never see light, maybe they will develope it someway and
patent it. I want my ideas to go freely to the poor people and especially
the third world countries as those people are rich in ideas and junk and
poor in resources and money, etc. If you can make an engine out of junk to
grind grain, pump water and spin an alternator, even if only a bike
alternator or generator then you can improve life by so much I think. they
usually have to do everything by hand or foot power. I was in Asia in the
'60's and I never forgot the pitiful lack of everything there. they are
intelligent and resouceful with what they have to work with. I seen a lot
of good ideas in use they cobbled up, and the stuff they made from bamboo.
I tried to get some growing at my spring last year, but I don't think it
lived. I have to go down there and look this spring. see if I can get some
more and try it again.
with the water pulse jet engine think "coffee pot percolators". that is
what they are. just a modified use. now if you put a turbine wheel at the
top of the coffee pot perker and catch the water coming off it you can have
a little power engine. Now a big plus is that is also provides hot water
just like the coffee pot. so there is hot water for showers, baths, washing
clother, what ever. also can be used to heat a room space, put a car
radiator on the side of the drum and water flow in and out and a fan to
circulate air through the radiator core and you can heat a room. you can
also "homogenize " water to be used for drinking where the water may be
"questionable", possible parasites in it, etc.
that is some of the reasons I am so excited about water pulse jet turbine
engines. so damn versitle and no one ever thought of it before except Ben
Franklin? I don't believe it, I think this technology is being surpressed.
I can't find any thing about Ben's inventions any more. years ago when I
was in school I saw plenty about them in the Encyclopedia. What happened?
thanks for your interest. Darrell,,,still crazy after all these
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